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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT IS NOW 3:01 ON MONDAY, JUNE 21ST, 2021, THIS IS THE GARLAND
[I. Call to Order and Determination of a Quorum]
INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF TRUSTEES SPECIAL MEETING.AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS TIME TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AND DO SEE THAT WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT.
THE SECOND ITEM IS A PUBLIC FORUM FOR MEMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK.
MICHELLE, DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS? ANYBODY PRESENT? NO, SIR. OK, WE HAVE NO CARDS.
[III.A. Discuss Board Goal - Patricia Arvanitis]
SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A DISCUSSION ITEM FOR THE BOARD GOALS.
WE'RE GOING TO START OUR BOARD GOAL PROCESS.
I'VE ASKED PATRICIA PARMENIDES [INAUDIBLE] TO JOIN US TODAY TO WALK US THROUGH A SUGGESTED--I DON'T WANT TO SAY SUGGESTED.
WALK US THROUGH A POSSIBLE SCENARIO WHERE WE COULD USE SOME CONSULTING TO HELP US WITH THE STRUCTURE OF OUR BOARD GOALS GOING FORWARD.
SO AT THIS TIME, WE'LL TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO MS. [INAUDIBLE].
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
I'M HERE. I GAVE YOU A HANDOUT THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.
AND I JUST WANTED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, A BRIEF CONVERSATION TO TALK ABOUT A POSSIBLE SCENARIO FOR HELPING YOU SET GOALS AND BUILD A STRUCTURE OF GOVERNANCE THAT CREATES KIND OF A LONG TERM STRATEGY FOR BOARDS AND SUPERINTENDENTS TO WORK FORWARD SO THAT THERE IS MONITORING, PROGRESS MONITORING, AND THERE'S A CYCLE OF EVALUATION THAT WE CREATE.
WE HAVE A PROCESS ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
AND THAT AND THAT'S REALLY THE FOCUS OF WHAT KIND OF SETTING THIS FRAMEWORK IS GOING TO BUILD FOR YOU. IT'S A LONG TERM STRATEGY THAT IS CREATED SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IT OUTLIVES A SINGLE LEADER. RIGHT, SO A SINGLE BOARD MEMBER OR A SUPERINTENDENT, IT IS THE FRAMEWORK THAT IS ACCOUNTABLE TO YOU AS A BOARD AND WHAT YOU OWN.
AND SO I'D LOVE TO WALK THROUGH THAT, WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND THEN JUST ANSWER QUESTIONS. I'D REALLY LOVE TO JUST HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.
IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH YOU GUYS? OK, SO BASICALLY THE WAY WE START START THIS STRUCTURE IS YOU ALREADY HAVE GOALS AND YOU'VE SEEN GOALS.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU'VE HAD THEM FOR A LONG TIME.
BUT ONE OF THE CHALLENGES FOR BOARDS IS IF WE CREATE GOALS THAT ONLY HAVE ANNUAL REPORTING AND YOU HIT THE ANNUAL DATE AND THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANY PROGRESS MEASURED, ANY LOOK TO THAT, THEN YOU HAVE NOTHING TO FRAME YOUR CONVERSATION, YOUR BOARD WORK AROUND.
EITHER YOU'RE BUDGETING, YOUR FACILITIES CONVERSATION, HIRING PRACTICE, ALL OF THAT SHOULD BE FRAMED IN THOSE GOALS.
AND AS YOU MEASURE PROGRESS ALL THROUGH THE YEAR, ALL THROUGH YOUR BOARD WORK, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE CREATING A STRUCTURE THAT ALLOWS EVERYTHING YOU DO AS A BOARD MEMBER TO BE FOCUSED ON GETTING TO THOSE GOALS AND SUPPORTING YOUR SUPERINTENDENT AND HIS TEAM TO GETTING TO THOSE GOALS.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE, IS A COLLABORATIVE STRUCTURE THAT MONITORS PROGRESS ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE YEAR.
AND THAT YOU USE THAT STRUCTURE TO FRAME YOUR CONVERSATIONS AT THE BOARD TABLE.
IT'S CREATING A CYCLE OF ACCOUNTABILITY THAT INCLUDES YOUR COMMUNITY AND INCLUDES US BOARD MEMBERS AND INCLUDES YOUR SUPERINTENDENT AND THEIR LEADERSHIP TEAM AND HOPEFULLY ENDS WITH WHAT HAPPENS IN THE CLASSROOMS FOR YOUR STUDENTS.
SO EVEN CREATING PART OF THAT CYCLE THAT HAS THE STUDENT VOICE IN, THAT IS WHAT FRAMES BOTH THE STUDENT EXPERIENCE AND WHAT'S GOING TO TRANSFORM STUDENT OUTCOMES.
AND DISTRICTS WHO PUT THIS STRUCTURE IN PLACE HAVE BEEN OR HAVE SHOWN THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY MOVE A DISTRICT FORWARD AND TO IMPROVE STUDENT OUTCOMES.
AND WE'VE SEEN THAT IN SEVERAL DISTRICTS.
NOW, AS YOU ENTER THIS NEW CYCLE OF EVALUATION, YOU'RE ALSO LOOKING AT LEARNING LOSS FROM COVID. SO IT'S A GREAT TIME TO REESTABLISH YOUR GOALS, TO SET THOSE PROGRESS MEASURES, TO BUILD A MONITORING CALENDAR, TO CREATE THAT CONVERSATION WITH YOUR SUPERINTENDENT SO THAT YOU ARE ACTUALLY SETTING THE VISION AND VALUES AS A SCHOOL BOARD AND YOU ARE DRIVING THAT TRANSFORMATION. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT OUR COMMUNITY EXPECTS.
THAT'S WHAT WE HOPE WHEN WE ELECT A SCHOOL BOARD.
WE TRUST YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MOVING OUR STUDENTS FORWARD, THAT WE'RE GETTING THEM OVER THE BAR, ALL OF OUR STUDENTS.
RIGHT. AND SO THAT BOARD WORK REALLY NEEDS TO BE FOCUSED ON WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO GET OUR STUDENTS TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS, WE REALLY TALK ABOUT IT FROM A TRANSFORMATION PLAN.
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AND WE CREATE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE IS A BALANCED GOVERNANCE.SO THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARDS ACROSS TEXAS AND I WOULD ARGUE ACROSS THE NATION, EITHER LAND ON TWO SIDES.
RIGHT, THEY'RE EITHER WALKING AN UNINFORMED DELEGATION, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE REALLY DELEGATING THE FUTURE OF THEIR DISTRICT TO THEIR SUPERINTENDENT WITHOUT MUCH MONITORING.
RIGHT, SO THAT IS ONE SIDE OF THE EQUATION.
THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EQUATION ARE BOARDS THAT ARE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BOARDS THAT WANT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, SEVEN SUPERINTENDENTS THAT MICROMANAGEMENT ASPECT.
AND I WOULD ARGUE THAT BOTH SIDES OF THAT EQUATION ARE DETRIMENTAL TO CHILDREN.
THEY DO NOT MOVE STUDENT OUTCOMES FORWARD.
THEY DO NOT IMPROVE THE STUDENT EXPERIENCE.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
SO WE WANT TO FIND A BALANCE OF THAT.
AND THAT INFORMED OVERSIGHT IS YOUR JOB IS THE TRUSTEE'S JOB, AND IT IS YOUR JOB TO BE ACCOUNTABLE TO STUDENT OUTCOMES AND TO STUDENT EXPERIENCE.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS STRUCTURE DOES, IS IT CREATES A BALANCED GOVERNANCE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO SUPPORT. YOUR SUPERINTENDENT, AS HE IMPLEMENTS STRATEGIES THAT MOVE THE NEEDLE FOR KIDS, BUT ALSO TO DO DUE DILIGENCE, TO ASK GOOD QUESTIONS, TO LOOK AT THE DATA, NOT JUST THE SUMMATIVE DATA, NOT JUST THE YEAR-END DATA, BUT THE FORMATIVE DATA, THE DATA THAT TEACHERS ARE LOOKING AT DAILY IN THEIR CLASSROOMS. RIGHT, THAT DATA IS AVAILABLE.
AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT AND STRUCTURE YOUR CONVERSATION AROUND THAT.
AND WE COULD BUILD A MONITORING CALENDAR THAT ALLOWS YOU TO KNOW WHEN THOSE ASSESSMENTS ARE COMING UP, BUT ALSO IT ALLOWS YOUR LEADERSHIP TEAM TO KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT'S ON THE DOCKET. THIS IS THE CONVERSATION.
AND IT'S KIND OF A RED, YELLOW, GREEN CONVERSATION, RIGHT? IF IT'S GREEN, EVERYTHING'S GOING GREAT.
WE'RE MOVING FORWARD IN A SPECIFIC GOAL, THEN WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT. BUT IF IT'S YELLOW OR RED, THEN IT IS YOUR ROLE, YOUR JOB TO HOLD THE DISTRICT ACCOUNTABLE FOR.
WHAT ARE THE STRATEGIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE DEPLOYED TO GET US BACK UP INTO THE GREEN? AND THAT TO ME IS BOARD WORK.
AND SO THAT'S THE KIND OF FRAMEWORK THAT I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT YOU TO BUILD.
I THINK IT'S A LONG TERM STRATEGY.
ONCE IT'S BUILT, IT'LL LAST FOR A LONG TIME AND IT ALLOWS YOU TO MOVE THE DISTRICT FORWARD AND TO HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT PROGRESS.
LET'S START WITH MR. BEACH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR INTRODUCTION THERE.
BUT I'M CURIOUS, WHERE DO YOU START WITH COVID NOW? WHERE IS YOUR BASELINE THAT WE WOULD START AS FAR AS EVALUATING AND THE DATA BECAUSE WE'D ALREADY HAD SOMETHING IN PLACE NOW THAT'S KIND OF BLOWN OUT THE WINDOW, SO WHERE NOW DO WE START AS A BASELINE? YEAH, I THINK WE START WITH A REALLY DEEP DATA DIVE.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE SUMMATIVE DATA THAT WE USED TO HAVE.
WE MIGHT HAVE A STAR AS A GROUNDING MEASUREMENT, AS A BENCHMARK MEASUREMENT THIS YEAR.
BUT WE DO HAVE AND I'M SURE YOUR SUPERINTENDENT HAS FORMATIVE DATA THAT WE CAN START TO LOOK AT AND ASSESS THE WHERE OUR KIDS RIGHT NOW.
WHERE ARE KIDS RIGHT NOW? WE SET THAT BENCHMARK AND THEN WE SAY, OK, WHAT IS FEASIBLE AND WHAT IS REASONABLE FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD. BUT, WHILE WE WANT IT TO BE FEASIBLE, WE ALL WANT TO ALSO WANT IT TO BE A STRETCH.
SO THAT DATA DIVE IS THE IS THE BEGINNING OF SETTING THOSE NEW GOALS.
AND IT ISN'T THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE READ AND LOOK THROUGH YOUR GOALS AND YOUR GOALS ARE ARE GREAT AND YOU'RE ACTUALLY AHEAD OF THE GAME FOR MANY BOARDS ACROSS THE STATE HAVING GOALS AT ALL. SO I THINK THAT'S AN AMAZING THING.
AND THESE ARE IMPORTANT GOALS.
BUT WHAT I DON'T SEE ON HERE IS, IS PROGRESS MEASUREMENT THAT GOES THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE YEAR, ONLY SUMMATIVE DATA.
THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
WHAT ARE SOME OF THE EXAMPLES THAT OTHER BOARDS THAT YOU'VE SEEN THAT HAD SUCCESS WITH THIS FRAMEWORK USE AS FAR AS THAT GOES, WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DATA DIVE.
SO, FORMATIVE DATA CAN SHOW UP AND LIKE MAP WORK IF YOU HAVE A MAP, I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOUR DISTRICT HAS. SOME DISTRICTS HAVE RENAISSANCE, SOME HAVE MAP.
THERE'S ALSO INFORMATIVE DATA AROUND THAT IS JUST NARRATIVE.
THAT IS NOT DATA DRIVEN, BUT IT'S ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE OUR STUDENTS ARE HAVING, WHICH I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE FUNDING STRATEGIES TO, LET'S SAY, A COLLEGE READINESS STRATEGY FOR YOUR STUDENTS AND YOU'RE FUNDING THAT AND YOU'RE MEASURING THAT AS A GOAL, THEN FORMATIVE DATA MIGHT BE HOW IS THAT FEELING TO YOUR STUDENTS?
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HOW IS IT SHOWING UP IN THOSE CLASSROOMS? HOW IS IT SHOWING UP FOR YOUR KIDS? AND THAT IS MEASURED THROUGH A REALLY GOOD SURVEY DATA FOR OUR SURVEY FOR CHILDREN, FOR STUDENTS. SO THAT CAN ALSO BE THE KIND OF DATA THAT WE LOOK AT.BUT MAP AND RENAISSANCE ARE PROBABLY THE MOST COMMON FORM OF DATA THAT WE WOULD SEE.
BUT THAT DOESN'T PRECLUDE A DISTRICT FROM CREATING THEIR OWN FORMATIVE DATA PROCESS.
WELL, IF YOU HAVE A AND I THINK THIS IS WHERE YOU WOULD LEAN ON YOUR LEADERS AND YOUR LEADERSHIP IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOUR TEACHERS MEASURING? WHAT ARE YOU HOLDING YOUR TEACHERS ACCOUNTABLE, YOU KNOW, ASIDE LIKE HOW ARE THEY MEASURING PROGRESS TOWARDS TEKS? HOW ARE THEY MEASURING PROGRESS TOWARDS LITERACY, TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AND SHARING THAT DATA, ROLLING THAT DATA UP, BECAUSE WHAT YOU REALLY WANT TO DO IS CREATE A VERTICAL ALIGNMENT OF DATA.
RIGHT, THE GOALS THAT YOU'RE HOLDING YOUR TEACHERS TO ARE THE SAME GOALS THAT YOU'RE HOLDING YOUR PRINCIPALS TO, THE SAME GOALS THAT YOU'RE HOLDING YOUR ADMINISTRATORS TO AND THEY ARE THE GOALS THAT YOU AS A BOARD SET.
AND IT SHOULD BE VERTICALLY ALIGNED.
AND WHAT WE SEE IS WE HAVE A SET OF GOALS UP HERE AT THE BOARD LEVEL, BUT THEY ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE WHEN WE LOOK AT CAMPUS-BASED GOALS.
SO BRINGING IN THAT DATA AND CREATE A VERTICAL ALIGNMENT IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PROCESS.
[INAUDIBLE] MS. GRIFFIN FIRST.
SO EXPLAIN TO ME, BECAUSE MOST OF THE DATA WE GET IS SUMMATIVE.
SO EXPLAIN TO ME, WHEN WE LOOK AT PAGE ONE AND TALK ABOUT BALANCED GOVERNANCE AND WE KNOW OR I THINK I KNOW I HOPE THIS IS HAPPENING, WHICH I THINK IT IS, IS THAT THERE ARE WEEKLY AND MONTHLY DATA DIVES THAT ARE GOING ON ON THEIR CAMPUSES, ON VARIOUS CAMPUSES, OVER VARIOUS DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF STUDENT OUTCOME. EXPLAIN HOW WE DON'T GET, WITH THAT, BECAUSE THAT WILL BE STATED THAT IS THE DISTRICT OPERATION PROCESS AND IS THEIR TOOLS AND ALL WE NEED IS SUMMATIVE DATA.
SO EXPLAIN HOW THAT WOULD NOT GET INTO MICRO MANAGEMENT.
SO IF WE THINK ABOUT IT AND IT GOES BACK TO THAT VERTICAL ALIGNMENT, RIGHT.
AND SO IT'S KIND OF A TRIANGLE, RIGHT.
TO BUILD TOWARDS THAT ALIGNMENT AND SO ON A TEACHER OR CAMPUS LEADER, A PRINCIPAL, THEY HAVE MANY DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY'VE GOT TO MEASURE, RIGHT, TO GET KIDS TO THE OVER THE BAR, RIGHT, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'VE GOT TO DO DAY BY DAY TO GET OUR KIDS OVER THE BAR, BUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THOSE ARE ROLLED UP INTO A SET OF GOALS THAT IS MANAGEABLE FOR THE BOARD AND THAT IS UNDERSTANDABLE, AS YOU MEASURE PROGRESS.
SO, FOR INSTANCE, YOU MIGHT HAVE A LITERACY, A THIRD GRADE LITERACY GOAL THAT SITS AT THE BOARD LEVEL. AND YOU CAN HAVE PROGRESS MEASURES, MAYBE THREE PROGRESS MEASURES THAT ARE THE CUMULATIVE EFFECT OF ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT MEASURES THAT ARE SITTING AT THE CAMPUS LEVEL. SO YOU ARE NOT HAVING TO LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE THING THAT A TEACHER LOOKS AT, NOR DO YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT A TEACHER HAS TO DO TO GET A CHILD OVER THE BAR.
WHAT YOUR ROLE IS, IS TO LOOK AT THAT DATA AS IT CULMINATES INTO THESE PROGRESS MEASURES.
THREE TO FIVE PROGRESS MEASURES FOR EACH GOAL, THREE TO FIVE GOALS.
AND WHEN YOU MEASURE THAT AND WATCH THAT PROGRESS, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO YOU HAVE TO TRUST THAT'S GETTING OUR KIDS OVER THE BAR, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THOSE MEASUREMENTS.
BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO SEE EVERY SINGLE THING THAT AN EDUCATOR IS DOING OR CAMPUS.
AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE GOAL PROGRESS MEASURES, WHICH ARE YOU KNOW, THERE'S INPUTS. I THINK MAYBE YOU GUYS REMEMBER THIS, BUT INPUTS ARE WHAT WE PUT INTO THE SYSTEM, RIGHT? SO OUR TEACHERS, OUR CURRICULUM, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, THOSE ARE OWNED BY THE DISTRICT AND THEN OUR OUTPUTS, WHICH ARE THOSE PROGRESS MEASURES.
THOSE ARE ALSO OWNED BY THE DISTRICT.
BUT THE OUTCOMES, THE ULTIMATE OUTCOMES, THE SUCCESS OF YOUR CHILDREN ARE OWNED BY ALL OF YOU. I UNDERSTAND THAT.
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BUT WHEN YOU WERE SAYING THAT ALL OF THE MEASURES THAT ARE GOING ON WITHIN THE DISTRICT, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT'S BEEN ROLLED UP INTO.I UNDERSTAND I'M NOT GOING TO LOOK AT ALL OF THAT.
BUT HOW DO WE KNOW THAT ALL OF THESE VARIOUS DATA POINTS HAVE BEEN ROLLED ALL INTO THE CUMULATIVE DATA THAT WE'RE REVIEWING AT OUR LEVEL? BECAUSE WHEN WE DO THIS DATA DIVE AND WE SET UP THE STRUCTURE, IT'S A VERY COLLABORATIVE PROCESS. SO YOU CAN WORK WITH YOUR LEADERSHIP TEAM.
YOU WORK WITH YOUR SUPERINTENDENT.
YEAH, WE'RE NOT I WOULDN'T ASK YOU GUYS TO SET GOAL PROGRESS MEASURES WITHOUT THE INPUT OF YOUR LEADER OR SUPERINTENDENT, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE EDUCATIONAL EXPERTS AND WE WANT TO LEAN ON THEM. OK, MS. GRIFFIN, IS THAT IT? LARRY GLICK.
THANK YOU, SIR. LET ME JUST CORRECT SOMETHING YOU SAID.
SO WHEN WE FIRST STARTED WITH THIS BACK IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN, WE DIDN'T SHOW PROGRESS MANAGEMENT, BUT OVER THE YEARS THAT BECAME AN IMPORTANT CATEGORY.
SO IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THE THIRD INNER CIRCLE, SO THE GOLD ON THE OUTSIDE IS OUR 2025-2026 GOAL. THE FIRST WHITE INSIDE.
THE NEXT BAR IS WHERE WE'RE AT ANY POINT IN TIME THAT THE SNAPSHOT IS TAKEN.
SO WE DO MEASURE IT. AND I THINK THIS TOOL HAS WORKED VERY WELL.
IF YOU READ IT AND UNDERSTAND IT, WE COULD GET THIS TYPE OF REPORT AS FREQUENTLY AS WE WANT TO. AND WE DO USE MAP, OBVIOUSLY.
WE USE OTHER STANDARD TESTS FROM THE STATE.
WE USE OUR OWN BENCHMARKS FROM THE STATE.
WE USE OUR OWN DISTRICT BENCHMARKS.
SO TO HAVE INTERIM PROGRESS REPORTS IS REALLY EASY ON THIS CHART.
FIRST OF ALL. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU.
I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND ALL THE INTRICACIES THAT GO INTO OUR MANAGEMENT.
I THINK THAT WHILE WE HAD A GOOD FIRST STEP, THERE'S THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE OUR INITIATIVES MORE SOPHISTICATED.
HEARING YOU COMFORTS ME BECAUSE ALREADY, OUR TEAMS ARE FAMILIAR WITH HAVING A COMMON GOAL OVER DATA AND WE STRATEGIZE EVERYTHING OVER AROUND THAT GOAL.
MY QUESTION TO YOU IS JUST TWO-FOLD.
YOU KNOW, I'M HYPER COMPETITIVE, BUT MY BOARD IS HYPER COMPETITIVE.
AND WHEN WE HEAR THAT THIS COVID IS HITTING OUR DISTRICT HARD AND WE HEAR THAT THE MORE POVERTY STRICKEN ENVIRONMENTS HAVE A LONGER RECOVERY, TIME, JUST ENERGIZES TO DEFEAT THOSE ODDS. OK, SO I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU WANT TO INTEGRATE OTHER ASPECTS OUTSIDE OF JUST THE DATA PIECE TO GO INTO THE DATA.
I LIKE THAT. BUT IN JUST BEING FRANK, WHAT SCHOOL DISTRICT HAVE YOU WORKED WITH IMPLEMENTING THESE GOALS PRIOR TO COVID, OF COURSE THAT HAS OUTPERFORMED US IN GAINS BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T LOSE GROUND.
AND I THINK LOOKING AT YOUR FRAMEWORK--THIS IS JUST ME--IDEALLY, THIS LOOKS GREAT, BUT IT COULD ALSO CREATE ANCHORS TO CREATE THE DISTRICT FROM NOT MEETING ITS FULL POTENTIAL.
SO HAVE YOU DONE AN ANALYSIS ON THAT OR IS THERE A HIGH PERFORMING DISTRICT THAT HAS SHOWN EXTREME JUMPS SINCE YOU'VE WORKED WITH THEM THAT WE COULD SAY, OK, THAT'S KIND OF THE CYCLE WE WANT TO FOLLOW? YEAH, I WOULD ASK JUST TO CLARIFY QUESTION ON THE LAST PIECE THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU WHEN YOU INDICATED THAT THIS COULD BE PROBLEMATIC.
CAN YOU JUST SO I HAVE CLARITY, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT CYCLE, I GUESS.
OK, SO I BELIEVE IN STUDENT VOICE.
I BELIEVE IN EQUITABLE, INNOVATIVE PRACTICES.
I BELIEVE IN DISTRICT LEADERSHIP'S ROLES ARE ACCOUNTED FOR AND BEING ACCOUNTABLE DURING ALL THAT TIME. AND THIS IS ME COMPARING WHAT WE DO IN OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND LOOKING AT THE GOALS THAT HAVE BEEN SET BECAUSE OF THIS PROCESS.
THE GOALS HAVE BEEN SET AT A LOWER RATE IMPLEMENTATION FOR SOME OF THE THINGS HAVE BEEN SLOWER. AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS ALL LEADERSHIP ISD, SORRY ANYBODY WATCHING, BUT PEOPLE THAT HAVE FOLLOWED SIMILAR FRAMEWORKS.
THEY WERE MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE VOICE OF SOMEBODY GETTING BOUGHT INTO A CERTAIN INITIATIVE, EVEN IF PEOPLE COULDN'T SEE THE VISION THAN EXECUTING THE VISION.
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AND IN OTHER CASES, PEOPLE TRY TO EXECUTE THE VISION WITHOUT GETTING THE INPUT.IT'S A FINE BALANCE, RIGHT? IT'S A VERY FINE BALANCE.
SO PLEASE DON'T THINK I'M SAYING SHUT THAT OUT.
I'M JUST SAYING, CAN YOU SHOW US SUCCESS STORIES THAT HAVE REALLY SHOWN HOW THIS AMPLIFIED EFFORTS AND GOT RESULTS? SURE. SO I THINK SINCE THIS TYPE OF A FRAMEWORK HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED AND IT DIDN'T YOU KNOW, IT CAME IN TO TEXAS FROM THE NATIONAL LEVEL.
AND WE RESTRUCTURED IT IN TEXAS.
I WOULD SAY THAT LEADERSHIP ISD BRINGS A NUANCE WITH THE STUDENT EXPERIENCE, BECAUSE I ACTUALLY ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT IF WE WANT TO CREATE THE KIND OF TRANSFORMATION THAT WE WE WANT, ALL OF US WANT FOR OUR CHILDREN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONSIDER STUDENT EXPERIENCE AND HOW THAT LEADS TO OUTCOMES.
BUT IN AN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, SCHOOL BOARDS LIKE DALLAS ISD, LIKE FORT WORTH, ISD LIKE ALDINE, LIKE CROWLEY, AND THEY HAVE ALL INITIATED THIS TYPE OF FRAMEWORK.
THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS EXERCISING WITH FIDELITY.
BUT THEY HAVE THEY ARE LIVING IN THAT STRUCTURE.
AND WE HAVE SEEN IMPROVEMENT IN DALLAS.
AND THAT'S A DISTRICT THAT REPRESENTS STUDENTS OF COLOR.
IT REPRESENTS HIGH POVERTY, ELL, IT IS A SIMILAR DISTRICT TO WHAT GARLAND HAS.
ANOTHER MODEL THAT I THINK IS REALLY GREAT, THAT WENT BEYOND WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS TYPE OF WORK TO TEXAS IS HEB.
NOW YOU CAN LOOK AT HEB AND SAY, WELL, THE DEMOGRAPHICS AREN'T QUITE THE SAME, BUT THEY ARE SHIFTING DEMOGRAPHICS AND THEY HAVE KEPT THIS FRAMEWORK.
AND THAT FRAMEWORK HAS LASTED BEYOND BOARD MEMBERS, BEYOND SUPERINTENDENTS.
THE FRAMEWORK HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR A LONG TIME AND IT CREATES A, YOU KNOW, A GOAL POST AT ONE END AND HOW WE GET THERE AND HOW WE WORK TOGETHER COLLABORATIVELY TO GET THERE.
AND SO I WOULD SAY THAT I WOULD ARGUE THAT THERE HAS BEEN PROGRESS NOW, YOU KNOW, AND EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM KNOWS THAT WE LOST A LOT OF PROGRESS WITH COVID.
WE ALSO DIDN'T GET TO MEASURE IN 2020.
AND SO WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT PROGRESS OUR KIDS MIGHT HAVE MADE IN 2020.
THANK YOU FOR THAT, BECAUSE I WANTED YOU TO ARTICULATE SUCCESS STORIES, HOLDING THIS TO FIDELITY, NOT JUST BEING A SYMBOLIC ACT.
THAT'S WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO GET ANCHORED IN.
AND THEN THAT WE HAVE TO BALANCE THE VOICE.
YOU KNOW, YOU DID ADD STUDENTS, BUT IN OTHER CASES, IT'S STAKEHOLDERS OR WHAT OTHER FRAMEWORKS PUT, AND WHEN YOU HAVE THIS COLLABORATIVE, YOU CAN STILL MOVE FORWARD AGGRESSIVELY. YOU BROUGHT UP TWO GREAT DISTRICTS.
AND I WOULD JUST ADD ONE MORE THING TO THAT GREAT QUESTION IS WHAT DECISION MAKING CAN BE GROUNDED IN OUR COMMUNITY? WE OFTENTIMES LEAVE OUR COMMUNITY OUT OF PROGRESS.
THEY NOT OUR PARTNERS, BUT THEY CAN BE.
AND SO BRINGING IN STAKEHOLDER VOICE, STUDENT VOICE IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF THAT PROCESS, TO CREATE A FRAMEWORK THAT'S GOING TO BUILD TOWARDS TRANSFORMATION.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT VERY MANY DISTRICTS REALLY CONSIDER PARENTS AND STAKEHOLDERS AS PARTNERS IN THIS WORK.
AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET OUR KIDS OVER THE BAR WITHOUT EVERYONE.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I'M CURIOUS, AS I MEAN, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND THIS IS KIND OF LIKE, I GUESS, A 10000 FOOT VIEW OF KIND OF WHAT YOU--YEAH, VERY HIGH LEVEL, RIGHT.
BUT WHAT TYPE OF ROLE DO YOU PLAY IN THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH DISTRICTS SUCH AS HEB AND DALLAS? I'M KIND OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE RELATIONSHIP IS BETWEEN YOU AND THE DISTRICT. IS IT JUST CONSULTING OR IS IT CONTRACTUAL? COULD YOU HELP EXPLAIN THAT? YEAH, IT'S A CONSULTING RELATIONSHIP.
AND SO THE DISTRICTS THAT I WORK WITH, I WORK WITH THE BOARDS.
I WORK WITH YOU. BUT THE SUPERINTENDENT IS ALWAYS A PART OF THAT.
AND MY HOPE IS THAT WE GO THROUGH A PROCESS.
SO WE'RE GOING TO START WITH OUR DAY TO DAY.
WE'RE GOING TO SET OUR GOALS, WE'RE GOING TO IDENTIFY OUR NON-NEGOTIABLE.
WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A MONITORING CALENDAR AND WE'RE GOING TO CREATE THAT WHOLE CYCLE OF EVALUATION. AND THEN I LEAVE IT IN YOUR HANDS AND YOUR JOB IS TO SUSTAIN THAT.
SO IT'S REALLY A FACILITATOR'S ROLE.
IT'S NOT DOING THE WORK FOR YOU.
AND I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO COME IN HERE AND TELL YOU WHAT GARLAND NEEDS BECAUSE IT
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SHOULD BE CONTEXTUALIZED TO YOUR CHILDREN AND YOUR COMMUNITY.IT REPRESENTS THE VISION OF YOUR COMMUNITY.
I'M JUST HERE TO FACILITATE THE PROCESS.
AND WHAT TYPE OF TIME FRAME DOES YOU TYPICALLY I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S SOMEWHAT ONGOING, BUT THE MEAT AND POTATOES OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WOULD BE GETTING THE GOAL SET, GETTING THE PROGRESS MONITORING MECHANISM SET.
AND THEN, AS YOU SAY, IT'S UP FOR US TO MAINTAIN IT.
ABOUT HOW LONG DO YOU TYPICALLY TAKE TO GET TO THAT POINT WHERE IT'S KIND OF HANDED OVER US TO MONITOR? IT USUALLY DEPENDS ON HOW OFTEN YOU'LL LET ME COME AND TAKE YOUR TIME.
BUT IT IS ABOUT A I WOULD SAY IT'S ABOUT A 30 HOUR PROCESS OVER THE COURSE OF MAYBE THREE TO SIX MONTHS.
AND WE CAN DO IT IN FOUR HOURS.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN BUILD IT HOWEVER YOU WANT.
WE NEED TO HIT BENCHMARKS IN ORDER TO GET TO THAT FULL CYCLE.
AND THIS IS A GREAT TIME BECAUSE IT'S THE BEGINNING OF A NEW YEAR AND IT'S ALSO LEANING INTO A YEAR THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE LIKE ANYTHING ELSE.
WE'RE REALLY GOING TO HAVE TO RECOVER.
DOES THAT HELP? YES, THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? JUST QUICKLY, MY COMMENTS ON IT, YOU KNOW, I WAS SEEKING A WAY TO HAVE MORE STRUCTURE TO OUR GOAL SETTING PROCESS.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS BASED ON A RECOMMENDATION PRESENTATION, I THINK THE MR. SELDERS HEARD BECAME AN IDEA, I HAVE SPOKEN WITH MS. [INAUDIBLE] ONE TIME, I BELIEVE PREVIOUSLY WENT OVER THIS LITTLE THICKER PRESENTATION AND JUST WAS IMPRESSED THAT FOR OUR BOARD, YOU KNOW, UNLESS WE WANT TO TAKE A WHOLE LOT OF TIME TO MAKE THIS UP OURSELVES, WE COME UP WITH OUR OWN ARCHITECTURE FOR THIS KIND OF PLAN. IT WOULD BE VERY EFFICIENT AND ECONOMICAL FOR US TO BRING IN A CONSULTANT OF SOME KIND THAT WE COULD USE TO HELP US THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AND WHILE WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE, RATHER THAN DIVE INTO GOAL PLANNING TODAY, I THOUGHT IT'D BE REAL GOOD TO GET A CONSENSUS ABOUT HOW THIS BOARD WANTS TO GO FORWARD WITH OUR GOAL SETTING.
AND AGAIN, TO ME, IT'S MORE NOT ONLY FOR THIS YEAR, BUT KIND OF SETTING IN PLACE THE ARCHITECTURE THAT WE CAN USE YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO START OVER EVERY YEAR WITH THIS GOAL PLANNING PROCESS.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THOUGHTS I HAD.
TO ME, THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG ADVANTAGES OF HAVING SOMEONE WHO'S DONE IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, MAYBE CUT OUT SOME OF THE WASTED EFFORT FOR US.
AND SO I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS PRESENTATION.
MS. STANLEY. I JUST KIND OF HAD A QUESTION.
SO ARE WE OPEN TO--I HAVEN'T DONE ANY RESEARCH ON YOUR COMPANY, NO OFFENSE--BUT DO WE HAVE OTHER COMPANIES THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AS WELL TO MAKE--ABSOLUTELY, WE'RE OPEN TO WHATEVER DISCUSSION THIS BOARD WANTS TO HAVE.
THIS IS ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS A SYSTEM AND SOME BACKGROUND THAT WE KNEW.
I, OFF THE HAND, DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHERS, BUT I'M SURE THEY'RE OUT THERE.
SO IT WOULD JUST BE, AGAIN, UP TO THIS BOARD.
IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, THEN WE NEED TO DO THE RESEARCH AND MAKE IT ABOUT WHICH WAY WE'RE GOING TO GO, BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY'RE ALL GOING TO SAY, IT'S GOING TO BE A TWO TO FOUR MONTH KIND OF SIX MONTH PROCESS AND WE DO NEED TO GET SOME GOALS IN PLACE, SOMETHING THAT CAN BE MEANINGFUL FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR, WHICH IS KIND OF THE YEAR OF RECOVERY. AND WE DO HAVE A TON OF PLANS, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, WE'VE SEEN OUR ECONOMIC RECOVERY PLAN. WE'VE SEEN SOME THINGS THAT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE WITH OUR ESSER FUNDS.
WE'VE SEEN SOME SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS OF SOME POSSIBLE GRANT FUNDING FROM THE STATE WITH ALL OF THIS. SO WE JUST NEED TO TAKE ALL THAT INFORMATION, HAVE A STRUCTURE, I CALL IT ARCHITECT OR SOMEBODY TO JUST DESIGN IT FOR US SO THAT WE CAN CARRY IT OUT.
I THINK THIS BOARD HAS A VERY GOOD REPRESENTATION OF THE COMMUNITY.
WE HEAR FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE AND I THANK THE COLLABORATION WITH DR.
LOPEZ AND HIS STAFF, YOU KNOW, ALWAYS WANT TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY WITH ANYTHING WE SET UP AS A GOAL. IS IT ATTAINABLE? PRACTICAL? IS IT EVEN POSSIBLE? BUT I THINK PATRICIA HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
WE WANTED TO BE REASONABLE TO EVEN BE A LITTLE BIT OF A STRETCH.
THAT'S JUST THE WAY WE'VE DONE IN BUSINESS FOREVER.
SO THOSE THINGS ARE VERY REASONABLE TO ME.
SO IF YOU HAVE OR IF YOU WANT TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT OR IF WE WANT TO ASSIGN THAT
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TASK TOTALLY ABLE TO DO THAT, WE JUST KIND OF NEED TO DO IT HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AND THEN GET READY TO MAKE A PLAN.I'M SORRY. MR. SELDERS, I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
MS. STANLEY, A WHILE BACK WE PARTNERED WITH FORT WORTH ISD TO GO THROUGH LOAN STAR GOVERNANCE TRAINING AND LEADERSHIP IDEAS TO HELP FACILITATE THAT TRAINING.
AND THEN WITH YOU BEING A NEW BOARD MEMBER, WE NEED TO POSSIBLY REVISIT THAT AGAIN.
AND THIS IS JUST PART OF THAT PROCESS, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO ESTABLISH THOSE GOALS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THEM GOING FORWARD.
SO I KNOW MANY OF MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS AREN'T LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. AND IT'S JUST THE WORK OF BEING GOOD GOVERNANCE, YOU KNOW, MODELS, I GUESS.
AND LOAN STAR GOVERNANCE IS JUST THE FOUNDATION.
WHAT I'M TALKING TO YOU GUYS ABOUT IS THE REAL WORK.
RIGHT. THAT'S THE SETTING THE STAGE.
BUT THERE ISN'T A SINGLE BOARD THAT HAS EVER GONE TO A TWO DAY WEEKEND AND COME OUT AND BUILT THIS STRUCTURE ON THEIR OWN.
THAT'S JUST A FOUNDATIONAL CORE.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD ONE AND IT CAN BE TOUGH.
BUT THIS IS THE WORK THAT IS REALLY REQUIRED OF BOARDS TO GET TO THAT STUDENT PROGRESS THAT I KNOW YOU ALL WANT.
MRS. STANLEY, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
IT'S ALWAYS WISE TO LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS.
I'M JUST GOING TO SPEAK TO LEADERSHIP ISD AND THEIR CREDIBILITY.
THAT'S WHY IT'S REAL IMPORTANT FOR ME TO DISTINGUISH THE TYPE OF VERSATILITY YOU HAVE IN CUSTOMIZING WHATEVER PRODUCT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EACH INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATION.
GARLAND'S VERY UNIQUE AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE ANYBODY ELSE.
AND YOU GAVE A TALE OF TWO DISTRICTS THAT ARE DOING VERY WELL, THAT ARE THRIVING AND DOING DOING EVERYTHING, BUT LEADERSHIP ISD'S ALSO VERY RESEARCH BASED.
THEY GET PEOPLE THAT KNOW THE CONTENT AREA, BUT THERE ARE A PLETHORA OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS. AND BASICALLY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE GOING TO HELP US THROUGH, I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT WHO HAS A HISTORY OF WORKING WITH BOARD MEMBERS AND GETTING THE RIGHT JOB DONE AND MAKING SURE OUR GOALS STICK.
AND FINALLY, THESE LONG TERM GOALS TAKE LONG TERM COMMITMENTS AND WHICH COMPANIES ARE GOING TO BE HERE IN THE END DURING THAT ENTIRE TIME.
MS. GRIFFIN. OK, NOW THAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A PROCESS.
AND JUST AS EVERYTHING ELSE WE HAVE DONE HELPED ME UNDERSTAND WHAT WE DO IN THE INTERIM, WE HAVE CAMPUS IMPROVEMENT PLANS THAT TAKE OFF FROM THE BOARD GOALS THAT GOES TO THE DISTRICT IMPROVEMENT COMMITTEE.
ALL OF THESE ARE COMMITTEES THAT ARE REQUIRED BY LAW.
WE ARE COMING OFF OF COVID AND A LEARNING LOSS.
I THINK ALL OF US PROBABLY REALIZE WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THIS DONE IN LESS THAN 90 TO 120 DAYS.
BUT OUR FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL IS AUGUST 2ND.
SO WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN HAPPEN THEN? BECAUSE DO PEOPLE JUST CONTINUE IN THEIR OWN WAY AND ASSUME THAT WE ARE LISTENING TO WHAT WE HAD THAT WE HAD TO SUSPEND DOING COVID? WHAT DOES THE INTERIM WORK LOOK LIKE FOR THE DISTRICT, OUR STUDENTS, OUR COMMUNITY, WHILE WE ARE GATHERING TOGETHER THIS PLAN? TO ME, I MEAN, I'M ALWAYS PROJECTING OUT.
SO TO ME, WE'RE AT THANKSGIVING ALREADY.
AND SO WHAT'S THE INTERIM? BECAUSE THE COMMUNICATION AND THE MESSAGE HAS TO BE CLEAR.
I MEAN, SCHOOLS ARE NOT GOING TO STOP TEACHING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A GOAL, BUT WE DO AS A BOARD HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING FOR THAT DIRECTION.
SO WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN THAT HAPPENS IN THE INTERIM? WELL, I THINK, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST IS, FIRST OF ALL, GARLAND IS A LITTLE AHEAD OF THE GAME.
YOU'RE AHEAD OF THE GAME. YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN WORKING FROM GOALS.
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WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT PUTTING SOME STRUCTURE BEHIND THOSE GOALS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY MEASURING THE PROGRESS ALL THROUGH AND THEN FOCUSING THE CONVERSATION ON EVERY CONVERSATION, BUDGETING, RESOURCES, EVERY CONVERSATION ON THOSE GOALS, AND THAT YOU ALL OF YOU HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT DATA LOOKS LIKE.SO THE INTERIM WHAT THE INTERIM LOOKS LIKE IS WE CONTINUE TO DO THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. YOUR SUPERINTENDENT CONTINUES TO DO THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING, BUT WE'RE GOING TO CREATE STRUCTURE AND WE COULD CREATE A NEW GOAL STRUCTURE WITHIN EIGHT HOURS.
YES, WELL, I MEAN BUT IT'S NOT ABOUT DOING IT.
IT IS ABOUT THE COMPREHENSION OF WHAT THE WORK REALLY LOOKS LIKE.
AND IT'S ABOUT HOW YOU DISSEMINATE THIS INFORMATION OUT FOR WHEN WE GET READY TO DO THIS PROGRESS REPORTING, AND BASICALLY MONITORING.
AND AS YOU KNOW, THESE ARE ACADEMIC GOALS.
BOARD GOALS ARE MORE THAN ACADEMICS.
ARE YOU TOUCHED ON IT WHEN YOU SAID FINANCES AND ALL THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, GOVERNANCE IS OF AN ENTIRE DISTRICT, NOT JUST THE ACADEMIC GOAL.
IT'S OUR TOP PRIORITY, BUT IT'S NOT OUR ONLY GOVERNANCE GOAL THAT WE SHOULD HAVE.
I'M NOT REALLY CLEAR WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO.
SO I'M, AS YOU MOSTLY KNOW, A NUMBERS PERSON.
AND A LONG TIME AGO WE STARTED WITH THESE DOCUMENTS, OK, THAT WERE LAMINATED.
EVERYBODY GOT A KICK OUT OF THE FACT THEY WERE LAMINATED.
THIS GOES BACK TO TWENTY THIRTEEN.
THIS GOES BACK TO TWENTY FIFTEEN.
AND THEN FINALLY THIS IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN.
AND NOW WE'VE IMPROVED THIS MULTIPLE TIMES, EACH TIME WE LOOK AT IT.
WE ADDED THIS LITTLE BOOKLET SO YOU COULD HAVE IT WITH YOU.
WE HAVE THESE SITTING AT EVERYBODY'S POST UP ON THE DAIS.
AGAIN LAMINATED, AS I INDICATED EARLIER, WE UPDATE THIS MULTIPLE TIMES A YEAR.
WE GET PRESENTATIONS AS FREQUENTLY AS ANYBODY WANTS IT.
AS YOU INDICATED, WE WERE AHEAD OF THE STATE IN HAVING BOARD GOALS.
THE STATE SAID YOU NEED TO DO THIS.
OTHER TRUSTEES I'VE TALKED TO ARE AMAZED WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
NOW, I'VE EVEN RECOMMENDED SOME CHANGES AND THERE HAS TO BE A CHANGE IN THIS.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT BECAUSE EARLY LITERACY WRITING IS GOING AWAY.
THE LAST TEST WAS LAST YEAR, THAT'S DONE.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME POSSIBLE CHANGES.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF THE IDEA IS JUST LET'S SCRAP THIS BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE NUMBERS.
WE DON'T WANT TO HOLD THE SUPERINTENDENT ACCOUNTABLE FOR NUMBERS.
I THINK WE NEED A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THIS DOCUMENT BECAUSE THIS IS CHOCK FULL OF CRUCIAL INFORMATION ABOUT OUR DISTRICT THAT'S UPDATED VERY FREQUENTLY AND AS FREQUENTLY AS WE WANTED. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY GOODBYE TO THIS DOCUMENT, FINE.
IF WE'RE AFRAID OF NUMBERS, FINE.
IF WE'RE AFRAID OF HOLDING THE SUPERINTENDENT ACCOUNTABLE, FINE.
BUT THEN WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? BECAUSE THE STATE REQUIRES US TO DO SOMETHING WITH NUMBERS THEY DO.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT MOVE BY THE STATE TO GIVE US TRAINING.
WE NOW HAVE TO TAKE TRAINING EVERY OTHER YEAR ON BOARD GOALS, ON NUMBERS.
THEY WANT US TO BE MORE THAN CHEERLEADERS.
THEY WANT US TO KNOW THESE NUMBERS.
HOW IS YOUR DISTRICT ACTUALLY DOING IN STUDENT PROGRESS? AND IT'S MEASURED HERE SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS ON BOTH SIDES.
AND IT JUST DOESN'T MEASURE THE ONE GRADE THAT WE'RE MEASURING.
IT MEASURES ALL THE OTHER GRADES.
SO YOU COULD TAKE A LOOK AT EVERY AND OF COURSE, EVERY SAT, EVERY ACT.
YOU COULD LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT GRADES.
AND IT'S ALL ON ONCE ONE PIECE OF PAPER ON BOTH SIDES.
BUT IF THE IDEA IS LET'S SCRAP IT, I HOPE WE CAN FIND SOMETHING BETTER.
I DON'T THINK WE WILL. I'VE TALKED TO OTHER BOARD MEMBERS AROUND THE STATE.
THEY REALLY LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO THE IDEA'S, WHAT DO WE DO TO IMPROVE THIS RATHER THAN, IN MY OPINION, JUST SAYING GET RID OF IT. THANK YOU, SIR. CAN I ADDRESS THAT? BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A FAIR POINT.
AND SO, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO BE CLEAR, BECAUSE IF I WASN'T CLEAR BEFORE, I WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR. THIS STRUCTURE IS ALL ABOUT A CYCLE OF ACCOUNTABILITY.
IT IS ABSOLUTELY A CYCLE OF ACCOUNTABILITY.
AND THE FRAMEWORK THAT WE CREATE IS THE EVALUATION FOR YOUR SUPERINTENDENT.
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SO NUMBERS ARE ABSOLUTELY A PART OF THAT.OUTCOMES ARE A PART OF IT, BUT SO ARE GUARDRAILS OR NON NEGOTIABLES.
SO ARE CONSTRAINTS, THE WAY WE LOOK AT IT.
AND I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT WHEN YOU HAVE ALL OF THIS AND IT'S IMPORTANT.
BUT HOW ARE YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU FRAME YOUR DISCUSSIONS, YOUR BOARD DISCUSSIONS BASED ON THIS DATA? HOW DO YOU FRAME YOUR BUDGET DISCUSSION BASED ON THIS DATA? AND IF YOU AREN'T LOOKING AT PROGRESS MEASURES, IF YOU AREN'T EVERY SINGLE BOARD MEETING TALKING ABOUT PROGRESS AND FRAMING YOUR CONVERSATIONS ON THAT, THEN I THINK WE'RE MISSING A KEY LEVER.
AND THE CYCLE OF ACCOUNTABILITY JUST ISN'T FOR HIM OR FOR THE LEADER WHO FOLLOWS YOUR SUPERINTENDENT. IT'S ALSO AN ACCOUNTABILITY, A CYCLE OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR YOU GUYS.
BECAUSE AS A CITIZEN IN MY SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHICH IS DALLAS ISD, I HOLD MY TRUSTEES ACCOUNTABLE TO THE EXPERIENCE AND OUTCOMES THAT OUR STUDENTS HAVE.
AND I'M GOING TO ASK HARD QUESTIONS ABOUT OUTCOMES AND EXPERIENCE.
AND I THINK YOUR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE EVERY SINGLE KID GETS OVER THE BAR.
AND SO EVERY CONVERSATION YOU HAVE SHOULD BE HOW ARE WE GETTING OUR KIDS OVER THE BAR? HOW ARE WE PREPARING THEM FOR THEIR FUTURE, FOR THEIR SUCCESS? AND NUMBERS ARE A HUGE PART OF THAT.
BUT WE NEED TO BUILD A FRAMEWORK WHERE THOSE NUMBERS DON'T JUST SIT ON A PIECE OF PAPER, BUT THEY COME AND ARE A PART OF THAT CONVERSATION.
EVERY BOARD MEETING AND THEY OUTLIVE NO OFFENSE, DR.
LOPEZ, BUT THEY OUTLIVE A SUPERINTENDENT.
YOU ARE ELECTED TO CREATE A CYCLE OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND A FRAMEWORK THAT THEN YOU HIRE SOMEONE TO IMPLEMENT ON THAT STRATEGY TO GET YOU TO THOSE GOALS.
AND IT ISN'T THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
TOO OFTEN, BOARDS HAVE USED IT AS THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT NUANCE.
SO THAT'S MY ANSWER, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH.
YEAH, MR. GLICK. I'M GLAD I'M GLAD YOU STARTED THE CONVERSATION, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO GET TONIGHT IS HEAR FROM THE BOARD ON WHAT WE EXPECT.
OBVIOUSLY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHATEVER GOES ON OUR NEW LAMINATED PIECE OF PAPER IS GOING TO BE WHAT WE DETERMINE NEEDS TO BE ON IT.
AND SO I WOULD IMAGINE SOME OF THE STUFF WILL STICK AND IT MAY CHANGE A LITTLE BIT HERE AND THERE. BUT I THINK THE DOCUMENT WE HAVE DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF TELLING EVERYBODY WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT AT THE TIME.
NO, WE'RE JUST NOW WE'RE PUTTING A LITTLE MORE STRUCTURE TO IT, AND CREATING A PROCESS THAT HOPEFULLY, LIKE WE'VE SAID, WILL GO FOR MANY YEARS AND WE DON'T HAVE TO KIND OF START OVER AT SQUARE ONE EVERY YEAR WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR GOAL SETTING AND GOAL PLANNING. AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I JUST LIKE THE STRUCTURE OF HAVING SOMEBODY WHO'S DONE IT BEFORE HELP US THROUGH THE PROCESS, WHOEVER THAT MAY BE.
SO IF WE WANT TO DISCUSS NOW HOW WE WANT TO GO ABOUT THE PROCESS, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE ME SOME INSTRUCTION OF WHY YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE NEXT, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO VOLUNTEER TO GO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO, WE CAN TAKE THIS CONVERSATION THERE.
AND I WILL START WITH MR. BEACH. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT.
AND I NOTICED AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS THIS LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE THAT, WE STARTED IMPLEMENTING THAT INFORMATION ON OUR BOARD BOOKS THAT WE HAD FOR OUR BOARD MEETING, THAT WE STARTED TYING THOSE GOALS NOT ONLY FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT, BUT ALSO WHAT WE HAD IN OUR GOALS HERE IN ON THE SHEET SO THAT WE THE PEOPLE COULD SEE THAT WE WERE TYING THAT TO THOSE AND WE WERE USING IT BASED OFF THIS INFORMATION.
SO IT WAS A VERY GOOD, USEFUL TOOL.
THANK YOU. IT'S GREAT. MR. SELDERS.
I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK YOU HAD MENTIONED IN YOUR ANSWER TO MR. GLICK QUESTION ITEMS ABOUT GUARDRAILS AND CONSTRAINTS, CAN YOU KIND OF GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF BOARD GOALS AND HOW THAT WORKS AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE? SURE, SURE. AND I THINK THIS ALSO IS TO TRUSTEE GRIFFIN POINT WHEN WE TALK.
SO THERE'S TWO SIDES TO THIS COIN, RIGHT? THERE'S THE VISION AND THAT'S ESTABLISHING WHERE WE WANT TO BE, WHERE WE WANT OUR SUPERINTENDENT TO DRIVE TOWARDS.
AND THEN THERE'S THE VALUES, WHICH IS HOW WE WANT THEM TO GET THERE.
AND SO THOSE VALUES, THOSE GUARDRAILS ARE ALSO MEASURABLE.
AND THOSE ARE LESS ABOUT STUDENT OUTCOMES AND MORE ABOUT HOW WE ARE CREATING THE EXPERIENCE FOR OUR TEACHERS, EXPERIENCE FOR OUR STUDENTS.
THOSE ARE ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE.
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SO AN EXAMPLE OF A GUARDRAIL, WHICH MIGHT BE THAT WE WANT EQUITABLE HIRING PRACTICES, YOU KNOW, OR A GUARDRAIL MIGHT BE THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR STUDENTS ARE EXPERIENCING THEIR CLASSROOMS IN THE RIGHT WAY OR OUR SENIORS ARE GETTING ALL GETTING COLLEGE READINESS TRAINING.THOSE ARE NOT DIRECT STUDENT OUTCOMES BECAUSE A STUDENT OUTCOME IS REALLY WHAT A CHILD KNOWS OR CAN DO.
BUT THOSE ARE ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT VALUE STATEMENTS ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO GET THERE.
AND THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING.
AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE GUARDRAILS, THAT'S WHERE WE CAN BRING IN THE CONVERSATION THAT I KNOW IS IMPORTANT TO YOU, WHICH IS ABOUT EQUITY.
IT'S ABOUT HUMANITY, HOW ARE WE GOING TO TREAT OUR OUR PEOPLE, OUR STAKEHOLDERS, OUR PARENTS, OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR STUDENTS SO THAT WE GET THEM OVER THE BAR, SO WE GET THEM PREPARED FOR THE FUTURE. AND NOT ALL OF THOSE ARE GOING TO BE MEASURABLE IN AN OUTCOME, IN A STUDENT OUTCOME, BUT THEY CAN BE MEASURED THROUGH THESE PROGRESS GUARDRAILS.
AND THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS, HOW DO YOU HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE? HOW DOES THE BOARD HOLD THEMSELVES ACCOUNTABLE? THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART, AS WELL.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? KIND OF, SORT OF.
KIND OF, SORT OF? NOT REALLY, OK.
[CHUCKLING] YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTION ABOUT THE GUARDRAILS IN TERMS OF THE VISION AND THE VALUE. BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, WHEN MR. GLICK WAS TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBERS AND MS. GRIFFIN TALKED ABOUT THAT IT WAS MORE THAN JUST ABOUT ACADEMICS.
YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT, I GUESS, IN OUR CURRENT, YOU KNOW, INSTRUMENT THESE DOMAINS OR OBJECTIVES THAT ARE THERE.
BUT LIKE, WOULD YOU PUT GUARDRAILS AND WOULD YOU PUT THESE CONSTRAINTS AROUND EACH INDIVIDUAL GOAL OR WOULD IT BE--NO, THEY'RE SEPARATE.
SO THEY HAVE THE OUTCOMES AND THE PROGRESS MEASURES THAT ARE BASED ON THOSE OUTCOMES.
AND YOU HAVE THE GUARDRAILS AND PROGRESS MEASURES THAT ARE SHOWING YOU THAT WE'RE LIVING IN THOSE GUARDRAILS.
AND SO THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT MONITORING PROCESSES, BUT THEY INTERWEAVE.
OK. AND THEN HOW DOES THE MONITORING HAPPEN? YOU KNOW, THE FREQUENCY, YOU MENTIONED, IT CAN BE AS FREQUENT AS WE WANT IT TO BE.
IS THAT DATA OR ARE THOSE POINTS, THE DATA INPUTTED BY THE ADMINISTRATION, LIKE HOW DOES THAT COME TO US? WHAT FORMAT IS IT IN? LIKE HOW ARE WE GETTING THAT INFORMATION TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS THAT YOU TALK ABOUT AROUND, YOU KNOW, BUDGETING AND OPERATIONS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
MUCH LIKE WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW.
SO YOU OWN BOTH THE GOALS, THE STUDENT OUTCOME GOALS AND THE GUARDRAIL GOALS.
THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THEIR LEADERSHIP TEAM, THEY DEVISE THE PROGRESS MEASURES BECAUSE THEY'RE THE EDUCATIONAL EXPERTS SO THEY KNOW HOW TO MEASURE PROGRESS AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO BRING THAT PROGRESS TO YOU AND IT WILL MOVE TOWARDS THOSE GOALS.
SO THEN AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT PROGRESS, SO LET'S SAY, FOR INSTANCE, AN EXAMPLE, I USE THIS EXAMPLE. WE DID THIS WORK IN ALDINE ISD.
SO WHEN WE STARTED WITH THE GOALS, THIRD GRADE LITERACY WAS MUCH LOWER THAN THEY WOULD LIKE IT TO BE. BUT THIRD GRADE LITERACY FOR BLACK STUDENTS WAS REALLY LOW.
AND SO WE NEEDED TO SET A GOAL, NOT JUST ABOUT THIRD GRADE LITERACY, BUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO MOVE OUR BLACK CHILDREN IN THIRD GRADE LITERACY.
SO WHEN WE STARTED TO SEE PROGRESS MEASUREMENTS ON THAT, THE STRATEGIES THAT WERE DEVISED BY THE SUPERINTENDENT HAD TO DRIVE THAT GOAL.
AND SO THE PROGRESS MEASURES THAT THEY UTILIZED FOR THAT WERE MAP BASED, ACTUALLY, BUT THEY WERE ALSO SOME ADDITIONAL STANDARDS, SOME ADDITIONAL PANORAMA SURVEYS AND SOME EXPERIENCE, STUDENT EXPERIENCE, WORK THAT CAME INTO THAT PLAY ON THAT.
AND SO WHEN IT CAME BACK TO THE BUDGET CONVERSATION FOR THAT SCHOOL BOARD WE SAW, HERE'S A GOAL. HERE'S WHERE WE ARE.
WE ARE MAKING SOME PROGRESS, BUT WE'RE NOT MAKING SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS.
WE'RE NOT MOVING TOWARDS OUR BENCHMARKS FAST ENOUGH.
SO THE BOARD KNEW THEY HAD TO INVEST MONEY IN THAT STRATEGY.
AND SO THAT FRAMED THE CONVERSATION ABOUT BUDGET.
AND THAT, I THINK, IS THE NUANCE OF WHERE THIS CAN TAKE US IS BUILDING THAT FRAMEWORK SO THAT ALL THE BOARD CONVERSATIONS KEEP MOVING FORWARD TOWARDS THE GOAL.
BUT THE PROGRESS MEASURES COME FROM THE DISTRICT AND THE EDUCATORS.
IT MAKES SENSE. SO TO THE EXAMPLE THAT YOU GAVE, THEN, IT WOULD BE VERY EASY IF YOU JUST LOOKED AT THE GOAL AT FACE VALUE AND ASSUME THAT IF YOU'RE MAKING SOME INCREMENTAL
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PROGRESS, THAT EVERYTHING IS GOING WELL, BUT EVERYTHING IS NOT GOING WELL FOR EVERY STUDENT. RIGHT.SO IT GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO DRILL A LITTLE BIT DEEPER TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE STUDENTS ARE GETTING WHAT THEY NEED WHEN THEY NEED IT SO THAT THEY CAN BE SUCCESSFUL.
EVERY GOAL AND WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE DISAGGREGATED.
SO WE'RE GOING TO I MEAN, IN THIS STRUCTURE, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT DISAGGREGATED DATA BECAUSE WE NEED TO KNOW THAT EVERY ONE OF OUR CHILDREN ARE GETTING THERE GETTING WHERE WE WANT THEM TO BE. AND THAT'S BY CULTURE, BY RACE, BY ABILITY, BY GENDER RIGHT.
SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL OF THAT.
AND THAT ALSO IS PART OF THE VALUE WORK THAT WE DO.
ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH YES MA'AM. WE HAVE THIS.
WE GET ALL THREE TIMES, WE GET BETA ACCOUNTABILITY TESTING RESULTS.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S PRESENTED TO US IN A SUMMATIVE FASHION.
SO IT'S CUMULATIVE. THE ONE THING THAT I'M ENJOYING ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION IS THAT IT'S HARD SOMETIMES FOR STAFF TO UNDERSTAND.
LET US ASK YOU, LET US WORK TOGETHER IN ESTABLISHING IT VERSUS GOING AND SAYING THIS ENGLISH IS NOT OR LITERACY, WE'RE TOO FAR BEHIND.
OK, SO THEN WE GET ALL OF THESE NEW INITIATIVES AND NEW PROGRAMS, WHICH THEY SHOULD KNOW THAT DATA AND THEY SHOULD BE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO ACCELERATE THE PROCESS.
LINDA GRIFFIN, I BELIEVE THAT WHERE WE GET CONFUSED WITH WHAT WE ARE MONITORING.
IS THAT MONITORING AND PROGRESS, IS NOT FORMALIZED? YES.
SO IT'S LIKE WHEN JUST LIKE THE READING ACADEMIES THAT RIGHT THE READING ACADEMIES ARE GOING TO HIT ON THESE GOALS THE MEASUREMENT THAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED.
BUT WHEN WE GET THE REPORT ON THE READING ACADEMY.
IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY REFER BACK TO THE GOAL BECAUSE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO ASSUME THAT IT'S A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS FOR BOARDS AS WE WORK TOGETHER COLLABORATIVELY.
SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT YOUR FRAMEWORK AND A FORMALIZED PROCESS AS THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND NEW INITIATIVES ARE TO IMPROVE STUDENT OUTCOMES.
WE DON'T HAVE TO THINK ABOUT OH THAT IS TO THIS GOAL OR TO THAT GOAL THAT FORMALIZED PROCESS IS ALWAYS GOING TO LEAD US TO THAT GOAL.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE IS SOME OF THE IT'S NOT MISINFORMATION BECAUSE THE INFORMATION IS CLEAR AND THE INTENT IS CLEAR, BUT WHEN YOU SAY THAT WE AS A BOARD ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DEALING WITH STUDENT OUTCOMES IS SOMETIMES BETWEEN THE NEW PROGRAMS AND NEW INITIATIVES AND WHAT GOAL WE ARE TRYING TO MEET, THAT'S NOT COHERENT AND THAT'S NOT BRINGING IT ALL TOGETHER SO THAT WE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AND NOT THAT SOME OF US SEE IT AND SOME OF US DON'T, BECAUSE AS WE IMPLEMENT NEW INITIATIVES AND PROGRAMS, THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY
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TIED TO WHEN WE GET ALL OF THIS OTHER DATA REPORTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE SUMMATIVE APPROACH. SO I HOPE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT FRAMEWORK TAKES ALL OF THAT OUT OF THE GUESSWORK OUT. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE GET STUCK MANY TIMES BECAUSE A BOARD MEMBER MAY SAY, OH, I DON'T THINK WE'RE MOVING THIS NEEDLE.AND THEN THE SUPERINTENDENT WILL SAY, OH, YES, BUT I HAVE WE HAVE DONE THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER. SO IS THAT WHAT THIS FORMALIZED PROCESS WILL DO? I HOPE SO. I THINK WHAT IT DOES IS IT BUILDS PROGRESS MEASURES ON EACH GOAL THAT ARE VERY CLEAR AND THEN ALLOWS YOU TO FRAME YOUR QUESTIONS TOWARDS TO THE SUPERINTENDENT, TO THE LEADERSHIP TEAM IS WHAT IS THE STRATEGY THAT'S GETTING US TOWARDS THIS GOAL.
RIGHT. AND THAT ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS ARE THAT THEN IT BECOMES LESS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, DIVING INTO CAMPUS LEVEL STRATEGIES AND MORE ABOUT.
LOPEZ, WE'RE NOT HITTING OUR BENCHMARK.
WE'RE NOT MOVING THE PROGRESS THAT WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GET WITH THIS INITIATIVE.
SO WHAT IS THE MODIFICATION YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE TO GET THAT? THEN IT BECOMES ABOUT TALKING ABOUT STRATEGY AND YOUR SUPERINTENDENT WILL COME TO YOU AND SAY, WELL, HERE'S A STRATEGY WE'RE GOING TO DEPLOY.
AND THAT'S ALSO IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT THOSE PROGRESS MEASURES, MAYBE WE HAVE A MONTH, YOU KNOW, QUARTER ONE QUARTER TWO QUARTER THREE.
THOSE PROGRESS MEASURES ARE LOWER THAN WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE.
BUT IF IT'S A NEW STRATEGY THAT JUST WAS DEPLOYED, IT TAKES TIME TO GET OFF THE GROUND.
AND SO YOUR SUPERINTENDENT CAN SAY, WELL, HERE'S WHERE, BUT I'M GOING TO HIT THIS BENCHMARK. I'M GOING TO HIT THIS BENCHMARK IN QUARTER FOUR.
SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THIS NEEDLE.
WE'RE MOVING THE NEEDLE, MOVING THE NEEDLE BECAUSE WE DEPLOYED THE STRATEGY.
EVERYTHING THAT IS BUILT IN THIS FRAMEWORK IS TO SUPPORT YOUR LEADERSHIP TEAM TO BE SUCCESSFUL, BECAUSE OTHERWISE, WHY, YOU KNOW YOU HIRE SOMEONE TO MAKE SURE YOUR DISTRICT IS SUCCESSFUL. AND IT IS COUNTERINTUITIVE FOR A BOARD NOT TO SUPPORT THAT SUCCESS, BUT YOU HAVE TO DO THAT THROUGH A FRAMEWORK IN MY MIND, THROUGH A FRAMEWORK THAT YOU HAVE.
BUT I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT MAYBE MAKING IT CLEARER AND EASIER SO THAT WE KNOW THERE'S A TRUE PATHWAY TO THOSE GOALS.
DOES THAT HELP. YEAH, I'M JUST.
WE ARE TIME FOR US TO TIE OUR GREATNESS, TO IMPROVE OUR STATUS AND THE WAY YOU DO THAT IS BY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE SUPERINTENDENT AND HIS TEAM IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
AND MANY TIMES THEY ARE SO CLOSE TO THE INFORMATION BECAUSE THEY LIVE EAT AND SLEEP HAVE TO ASK SO MANY QUESTIONS AND TRYING TO GET CAUGHT UP ON WHERE WE ARE OR WHAT IT IS WE ARE TRYING THE INTERVIEW, IF YOU WILL, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
WHAT I REALLY THINK WE OUGHT TO DO NOW IS IF THE BOARD IS READY, WE JUST NEED TO I NEED SOME DIRECTION FROM YOU AS TO HOW YOU WANT TO PROCEED.
DO YOU WANT TO PROCEED DOWN THIS TRAIL WITH A CONSULTANT, WITH THIS CONSULTANT? WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH OR IS THERE SOME ADDITIONAL ACTIVITY OR INFORMATION YOU WOULD LIKE TO NEED OR HAVE BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION? I JUST KIND OF NEED TO KNOW WHICH WAY ARE WE GOING TO DO IT, THE WAY WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, WHICH HAS BEEN GOOD ENOUGH TO AT LEAST ESTABLISH THIS, WHICH, BY THE WAY, I SHOW THIS AROUND THIS WEEKEND IN SAN ANTONIO AT THE TRAINING CONFERENCE I WAS IN, AND I WAS ASKED TWICE TO STAND UP TO THE GROUP AND EXPLAIN HOW WE GOT THIS DONE.
AND MOST PEOPLE WERE IN MARVEL.
THEY ACTUALLY MARVELED THAT WE HAD THIS.
SO WHOEVER SAID WE WERE AHEAD, I THINK PATRICIA SAID WE WERE AHEAD.
AND IT'S TRUE FROM MY OBSERVATION.
SO THIS IS A GOOD DOCUMENT, IT'S A GREAT START.
THE QUESTION IS, WHAT DO Y'ALL WANT? WHAT DIRECTION WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO TAKE THIS WITH RESPECT TO FINISHING AND GETTING DEEP INTO OUR BOARD GOALS? MS. STANLEY. SO I WOULD LIKE TO DO SOMETHING ON A CONSULTANT BASIS, BUT WITH A COUPLE OF
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KEY FACTORS, I WOULD LIKE TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH TO SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE AND THEN THE COSTS ASSOCIATED TO IT AND WHAT WE'RE GETTING AT.BECAUSE IF I WAS TO VOTE TODAY.
YES, TO DO THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M VOTING FOR FIVE DOLLARS OR FIVE MILLION DOLLARS.
SO I THINK THAT IT'S KIND OF ALSO CLOSER TO FIVE DOLLARS.
I KNOW. I KNOW. BUT WE DID HAVE A PROPOSAL.
I'M SORRY. I KNOW I KIND OF ENDED YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT WHY DON'T YOU TELL THE BOARD THEN WHAT A TYPICAL CONTRACT WOULD BE AND THE TYPICAL AMOUNT.
SURE. SO, I MEAN, THE TOP END OF OUR TRANSFORMATION CONTRACT IS TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.
THAT INCLUDES ABOUT 30 HOURS OF COACHING BEYOND ALL OF THE ADDITIONAL TRAINING.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, BUT IT IS AS I SAID BEFORE, IT'S CUSTOMIZED TO THE NEEDS OF EVERY DISTRICT. AND I ALSO WILL SHARE THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR WORK IS ABOUT MOVING STUDENT OUTCOMES FORWARD AND IT'S ABOUT IMPROVING THE LIVES OF CHILDREN.
AND SO WE ARE FUNDED SEPARATELY TO DO THIS WORK IN DALLAS COUNTY.
AND SO WE ALSO ARE ABLE TO GIVE A DISCOUNT TO A BOARD LIKE GARLAND BECAUSE WE WANT TO SEE YOU SUCCEED. SO WE'RE A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN CONSULTANTS FROM THAT ASPECT.
BUT I'M HAPPY TO SHARE ANY OF THAT TRANSFORMATION PLAN WITH YOU AND GO THROUGH IT.
AND I'M ALSO HAPPY TO TALK WITH ANY OF YOU MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS.
YEAH. YOU KEEP REFERRING TO TRANSFORMATION.
WHAT IS YOUR TRANSFORMATION LIKE, WHAT ARE YOUR CORE BELIEFS? BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF YOUR CORE BELIEFS ALIGN WITH MY CORE BELIEFS.
WELL, MY CORE BELIEF IS THAT WE GET EVERY STUDENT READY FOR COLLEGE AND LIFE AND CAREER.
AND THAT'S WHERE I CENTER STUDENTS AND THAT'S WHAT OUR ORGANIZATION BELIEVES.
AND THAT'S THE WORK THAT WE FOCUS IN.
WE HAVE NO OTHER ULTERIOR MOTIVE OTHER THAN TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR KIDS GET TO THE TOP OF THE LADDER. AND WE HAVE 10 YEARS OF WORK, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND I APPRECIATE YOU ASKING, THAT WE HAVE 10 YEARS OF HISTORY THAT DEMONSTRATES JUST THAT.
THAT, THAT FOCUS IS ON OUR WORK.
OTHER BOARD MEMBERS I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHETHER YOU'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD ON A CONSULTANT TRACK OR NOT.
I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM MOVING FORWARD WITH A CONSULTANT.
I THINK THAT CONSULTANTS AND LEADERSHIP ISD I'M FAMILIAR WITH THEM.
I THINK THE BIGGER QUESTION WE HAVE TO RESOLVE BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A CONSULTANT IS WHAT DO WE EXPECT BOARD GOALS TO LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S PRETTY UNIFORM CONSENT THAT WE WERE PRETTY HAPPY WITH THIS OKAY.
AND IF THAT'S THE CASE AND I HEAR WHAT PATRICIA IS SAYING, AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOT A LOT OF VALUE TO IT, BUT I FEAR THE DISAGGREGATED DATA SECTION OF WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE I THINK WHEN YOU DISAGGREGATE DATA, ALL DATA TO SOME DEGREE IS SUMMATIVE.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST WHAT DATA IS.
AND YOU START BREAKING THINGS DOWN AND EVERY SINGLE THING IS IN HERE TO SOME DEGREE, BUT WE START BREAKING DOWN. THEN WE DON'T HAVE 15 BOARD GOALS OR WE HAVE WE END UP WITH 30, THEN WE END UP WITH FORTY FIVE THEN WE END UP WITH 100.
THAT BECOMES A LEVEL OF MICROMANAGING IN ITS OWN RIGHT.
YOU CAN HAVE SO MANY GOALS THAT WE'RE HOLDING HIM ACCOUNTABLE TO SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ALL HE CAN DO IS SIT THERE JUGGLING BOARD GOALS ALL DAY LONG.
SO UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANT, ALL THE CONSULTANTS IN THE WORLD AREN'T GOING TO REALLY BE ABLE TO HELP US.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF MY POINT IS I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK WE'VE ARRIVED YET AT WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING THE PROCESS TO BE AND BRINGING SOMEONE IN.
AND THEN WE SAY, WELL, THIS ISN'T WHAT WE WANT.
WELL, THEN WE'VE WASTED HER TIME.
WE'VE WASTED CADILLAC PLAN TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.
WE'VE DONE ALL THAT. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF MY PERSPECTIVE.
MY EXPECTATION OF THIS PROCESS WAS WE WERE GOING TO STICK WITH THIS AND WE'RE GOING TO TWEAK THESE NUMBERS. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING.
BUT I'M OPEN TO DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT, LIKE SOUNDS LIKE LARRY'S OPEN TO DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO SHOW ME WHY.
AND YOU'VE GOT TO SHOW ME THAT WE'RE ALL IN ON THAT BECAUSE MY OPINION, LONESTAR GOVERNANCE DAY ONE FIRST THING, STUDENT OUTCOMES WILL NOT CHANGE UNLESS ADULT BEHAVIORS CHANGE IS THAT, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
ACCURATE QUOTE. ONE OF THE FIRST ONES WE GOT AND WE SAT THROUGH IT AND WE LEARN FROM IT AND WE INCORPORATED.
NOW, EVERY SINGLE AGENDA ITEM HAS TO ACCOUNT TO ONE OF THE BOARD GOALS.
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EVERY ONE OF THEM DOES.AND THOSE BOARD GOALS ARE ALL DIRECTED TOWARDS STUDENT OUTCOMES.
SO WE ACCOMPLISHED IT AND WE WENT FROM WHAT ANYBODY WOULD HAVE SAID WOULD HAVE BEEN A C DISTRICT IN 2017 TO WHAT I THINK THE DATA SHOWS, AT LEAST INTERNALLY, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN AN A DISTRICT IF THEY HAD ACCOUNTABILITY SCORES THIS YEAR.
WE CHANGED ADULT BEHAVIORS AND STUDENT OUTCOMES IMPROVED.
BUT WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO FINISH THIS EITHER.
AND I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW IF WE WANT TO OFF RAMP IT RIGHT NOW AND START OVER.
THAT'S KIND OF MY OPINION. SO TRUSTEE JOHNSON, JUST I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR TOO, THREE TO FIVE GOALS, THREE TO FIVE GOALS IS WHAT WHEN I TALK ABOUT DISAGGREGATED DATA THAT'S IN THE DATA DIVE, THAT'S SO THAT YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO MAKE THOSE THREE TO FIVE GOALS. SO THAT'S I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I CLARIFIED THAT I DON'T INTEND TO HAVE 20 DIFFERENT GOALS.
THERE'S TEN GOALS ON THESE SHEETS.
SO BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I WAS CLEAR BECAUSE.
OK THEN I'M NOT BECAUSE WE'RE SITTING THERE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, THIRD GRADE LITERACY. YOU HAVE A GOAL FOR THIRD GRADE LITERACY, BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO GO FOR THIRD GRADE LITERACY AMONGST GIRLS.
YOU HAVE A GOAL FOR THIRD GRADE LITERACY AMONGST BLACKS.
YOU WERE DISAGGREGATING THAT DATA AMONGST THAT.
SO ARE WE GOING TO HAVE IS THAT JUST FALL UNDER ONE GOAL? THAT'S ALL UNDER ONE GOAL.
OK. WITH TARGETS, WHICH IS WHAT HB THREE REQUIRES ANYWAY.
OK, BUT FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU HAVE AN OVERRIDING GOAL, THEN YOU HAVE SUBGOALS TARGET GOALS UNDERNEATH IT.
HE'S STILL GOING TO FEEL LIKE HE NEEDS TO MEET THAT REPORT ON THAT AND DO ALL THAT.
SO WE MAY ONLY HAVE THREE TO FIVE GOALS.
BUT IF YOU HAVE SEVENTY TARGETS WITHIN THOSE THREE TO FIVE GOALS, THAT DOESN'T MAKE HIS LIFE ANY EASIER. WOULD YOU AGREE WITH ME ON THAT? I WOULD. AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD GO TOWARDS.
I MEAN, I CAN'T REWRITE THE HB THREE GOALS.
THOSE ARE ALREADY SET BY THE LEGISLATURE.
RIGHT. SO THOSE ARE ALREADY REQUIRED OF THE SUPERINTENDENT.
BUT IN THE GOALS THAT WE HAVE AT THE BOARD, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THOSE TARGETS BELOW IT.
IT'S WHETHER OR NOT YOU LOOK AT THE DATA AND THE DATA DRIVE AND YOU SAY, GOSH, WE REALLY NEED TO ADDRESS THIS CHALLENGE THAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR DISTRICT AND THEN WE WOULD SET A GOAL AROUND THAT. SO I MAY HAVE MISSPOKE AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I CLARIFY THAT.
AND I THINK THE FEAR IS THAT I THINK KIND OF THE FEAR IS THIS AND I'M NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF ANYBODY. I'M JUST PUTTING OUT A PERSPECTIVE.
IF YOU LOOK AT OUR DATA TRENDS, YOU'LL SEE A DECLINE AND YOU'RE USING OUR BLACK READING LEVELS, YOU WILL SEE A DECLINE IN BLACK READING LEVELS, BUT THEN YOU'LL SEE AN INCREASE IN BLACK READING LEVELS.
WHATEVER WE DID SHOWED AN INCREASE.
THE PROBLEM WAS IN SOME PEOPLE'S MIND THAT YOU ALSO SAW AN INCREASE IN HISPANIC READING LEVELS. THE PROBLEM WAS YOU ALSO SAW AN INCREASE IN WHITE READING LEVELS.
THE PROBLEM WAS THAT YOU ALSO SAW AN INCREASE IN ASIAN READING LEVELS.
SO WHATEVER WE DID AFFECTED ALL FOUR POPULATIONS.
IT WASN'T JUST SOLELY TARGETED ON ONE.
OK, SO THE GAP WAS THE SAME, ALTHOUGH THE MEASUREMENT WENT UP, THE GAP WAS THE SAME.
RIGHT. AND I THINK WHAT TRUSTEE JOHNSON WAS BRINGING UP WAS YOU'RE RIGHT.
SO IF WE DO GET LET'S JUST SAY A SINGLE POPULATION, LET'S SAY LET'S USE BILINGUAL OUR BILINGUAL NUMBERS ARE DOWN.
THOSE BILINGUAL CLASSES ARE EASIER TO TEND TO BECAUSE MOST OF THOSE KIDS, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE YEAR ONE, ARE IN SEPARATE CLASSES ANYWAY.
SO YOU CAN ZERO IN ON SOMETHING.
THE IMPORTANT FACET WOULD BE IF WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR OTHER POPULATION, SOCIO ECONOMIC SPECIAL ED, WHATEVER THAT ARE IN THE TOTAL POPULATION.
SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE BECAUSE WHAT BENEFITS ONE IS GOING TO BENEFIT THEM ALL.
RIGHT. AND SO DO YOU ALSO IN THOSE MATRIX'S SHOW THAT WELL, YEAH, YOU SHOWED IMPROVEMENT, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE SHOWED IMPROVEMENT.
THAT'S WHY THE GAP IS STILL THERE.
DO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENTIATION I'M TRYING TO MAKE? ABSOLUTELY AND I THINK WE WANT TO SEE BOTH IMPROVEMENT AND A CLOSING OF THE GAP.
BUT THE GOALS DRIVE THAT STRATEGY.
MR. BEACH. OK, MY CONFUSION, I GUESS, IN THE WHOLE SITUATION IS THIS DOCUMENT OR THIS PIECE OF PAPER I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT A DOCUMENT BUT SCORECARD.
WE DEVELOPED THIS SCORECARD AND I WAS ON THE BOARD WHEN WE DEVELOPED THIS SCORECARD.
AND LARRY I THINK YOU WERE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD.
AND WE FOUGHT HARD OVER SETTING A GOAL ONE GOAL.
AND WE'VE GONE OUT AND WE'VE ADVERTISED THAT EVEN ACROSS THE NATION ABOUT ONE GOAL.
AND THIS GOAL HAS BEEN VERY GOOD.
AND WE SET SOME REALLY HIGH PRIORITIES BECAUSE WE PUT THIS GOAL OUT THERE FOR 2026 TO
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SHOW OUR RESULTS. THAT'S STILL A LONG WAY OFF.OK, AND I KNOW COVID HAS PUT THE HICCUP IN IN IT, BUT STILL IT'S A GOAL THAT IS MANAGEABLE. AND THAT'S WHY I'M KIND OF CONFUSED ON WHERE WE'RE GOING, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT THIS SCORECARD SHOWS OUR CONFIDENCE IN DR.
LOPEZ AND HIS CABINET BECAUSE HE CAME IN AND LIKE HE SAID, HE'S COMPETITIVE.
HE WANTS TO BE NUMBER ONE, AND WE DO, TOO.
AND BUT WHERE I'M CONCERNED IS WHEN WE LOOKED AT CROSS CURRICULUM AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT THESE OTHER GOALS IN THIS SCORECARD, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT JUST RECENTLY.
WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT AND WHAT THAT'S GOING TO DO THAT IN EVERY SUBJECT MATTER NOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THAT CROSS CURRICULUM.
SO WE DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO RANK THESE DIFFERENT STRATEGIES OR THESE GOALS UNTIL WE GET THE DATA TO SEE IF WE ARE MAKING ANY KIND OF STRIDES OR CHANGES OR WHATEVER THE CASE.
SO I GUESS WHAT I'M YOU KNOW, I GUESS WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT OR CONFUSED, I LIKE THE GOAL THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE WE WANT ALL STUDENTS TO GRADUATE PREPARED FOR COLLEGE.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S OUR GOAL PERIOD.
BUT WHERE I'M CONCERNED IS, ARE WE WANTING TO GO BACK AND CHANGE THE METRICS ON ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE SCIENTIFIC UNDERSTANDING, MATHEMATICAL PROFICIENCY? IS THAT OUR PROBLEM BECAUSE OF COVID THAT WE'RE GOING HAVE TO CHANGE THE GRAPH BECAUSE OF THAT? I MEAN, I KNOW THAT I HATE TO SAY THAT I KNOW HOW COMPETITIVE HE IS.
AND I KNOW HE WANTS A GOOD VIEWING OR REPORT AS FAR AS HIS EVALUATION IS CONCERNED.
AND IT'S NOT REALLY FAIR TO HIM BECAUSE OF WHAT COVID DID.
SO WE REALLY CAN'T BLAME OUR SUPERINTENDENT FOR WHAT HAPPENED.
BUT WE HAVE AND JUST LIKE JAMIE SAID, HE WAS IN SAN ANTONIO AND PEOPLE WERE SAYING, MAN, THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE. THIS IS GREAT.
THIS IS A DOCUMENT SCORECARD WE'VE HAD.
SO WHY OR MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE CAN ANSWER WHY WE NEED TO LOOK AT EVEN CHANGING THE GOAL THAT WE HAVE AS A BOARD, BECAUSE I'M WILLING TO STAND WITH IT BECAUSE IT STATES EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DO. BUT MAYBE WE NEED TO JUST NEED THE GRAPH ON THE OTHER THING. SO I THINK THIS MAYBE THAT'S MY GUARDRAIL I'M GOING TO LIVE WITH.
I DON'T KNOW. AND JUST FROM PERSPECTIVE, AGAIN TODAY, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T HAVE A GOAL, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY EXPECTATION THAT ANY GOAL WOULD BE ESTABLISHED.
THE FIRST THING I THINK YOU DO IS YOU GOT TO LOOK AT THE DATA AND THEN YOU DETERMINE WHETHER YOUR GOALS ARE APPROPRIATE AND YOU WANT TO CHANGE THEM WHERE YOU WANT TO ADJUST THEM. AND IT MAY JUST WELL BE NO MATTER WHAT PROCESS WE GO THROUGH, WHETHER IT'S WITH A CONSULTANT OR BY OURSELVES, A LOT OF THIS MAY STILL SURVIVE AND BE PART OF OUR GOALS.
I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT THAT IN PLACE TODAY.
WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO HEAR FROM THE BOARD IS THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO GO THROUGH FOR GOAL SETTING. DO YOU WANT IT TO BE ONE THAT INCLUDES A CONSULTANT FOR STRUCTURE OR DO YOU WANT TO SET ABOUT IT AS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, WHICH I'M NOT SAYING IS BAD.
I'M JUST SAYING HERE'S AN ALTERNATIVE THAT WAS BROUGHT TO ME BY MR. SELDERS AND I INVESTIGATED IT.
TO ME, IT SOUNDED LIKE A GOOD IDEA, BUT I CAN'T MAKE THAT DECISION.
THAT'S FOR THE BOARD. AND I DIDN'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE BOARD, SO I THOUGHT I'D BRING IT TODAY, LET YOU ALL DISCUSS IT AND WHATEVER Y'ALL WANT.
THE NEXT WHATEVER THIS BOARD, THE CONSENSUS IS THE NEXT STEP OUGHT TO BE, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE'LL GO DO. AND I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I AGREE WITH ROBERT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, TOO BUT ON HAVING A BALANCED STRUCTURE.
I AGREE THIS THIS BOARD, WE'RE ALL INTERESTED IN ONE GOAL, AND THAT IS FOR OUR STUDENTS TO GRADUATE AND PREPARE FOR COLLEGE AND CAREERS IN LIFE.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE BALANCE THAT WE HAVE ON THIS BOARD.
THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT WE WANT TO TAKE EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS STUDENT DRIVEN, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO BE ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, NOW MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE A MONITORING CALENDAR LIKE MS. ARVANITIS IS SAYING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT MORE OFTEN, YOU KNOW? WELL, AGAIN, TO ME, THERE'S A FOUR HOUR MEETING COMING, WHETHER IT'S WITH A CONSULTANT OR WHETHER IT'S NOT THERE IS A LONG DAY COMING.
BUT WHERE WE GOT TO SIT DOWN AND THE BOARD GETS TO DO THIS.
RIGHT. AND MY ONLY QUESTION IS, HOW DID YOU WANT ME TO PROCEED WITH THAT? WE'RE GOING TO SCHEDULE IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
WE GOT TO BE FAIR TO THE KIDS.
LOPEZ AND THE WHOLE STAFF OF WHAT WE EXPECT.
AND I THINK MR. GLICK MAKES SOME GOOD POINTS AND HE LIKES THESE OBJECTIVES.
AND THERE'LL BE A TIME WHERE WE'LL GET TO ARGUE ABOUT WHICH OBJECTIVES, WHICH MEASUREMENTS ARE WE GOING TO KEEP OR WHICH ARE WE GOING TO CHANGE OR WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO. AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE MOST ROBUST DISCUSSION WE HAVE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME IS WHERE ARE WE GOING TO SET GOALS AND WHAT GOALS ARE WE GOING TO USE?
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BUT THAT'S HEALTHY. BUT I'M NOT TRYING TO DO THAT TONIGHT.I AGREE. BUT THAT'S HEALTHY BECAUSE THAT SHOWS THAT WE ARE CONCERNED AND WE CARE AND WE ARE STUDENT DRIVEN, THAT WE WANT OUR STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT GOAL TO BE THE BEST THAT IT POSSIBLY COME BE. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE CALLED GOAL-DIGGERS.
YEAH. SO I GUESS WHAT I'M WANTING TO HEAR FROM THIS BOARD IS HOW DO YOU WANT ME TO PROCEED? I NEED TO SET UP ANOTHER MEETING PROBABLY SOON.
AND IT MAY BE THAT FIRST FOUR HOUR MEETING.
I JUST NEED TO KNOW HOW YOU WANT ME TO CONDUCT IT.
THE CREDENTIALS OF LEADERSHIP ISD ARE WELL KNOWN, SO THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT YOUR CREDIBILITY. MOST OF US ARE GOING TO BE AT LEAST TWO TO THREE DAYS IN FORT WORTH, SEEING AN AWFUL LOT OF IMPORTANT PEOPLE.
WE CAN ASK IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE WHO DOES THIS TYPE OF SERVICE WHILE WE'RE THERE.
THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION IF WE WANT TO GET ONE MORE PERSON INTERVIEW.
I THINK THE IDEA OF USING A CONSULTANT IS FINE.
BUT TO HEAR THEM, I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
I THINK WE HAVE A REALLY GREAT FRAMEWORK, AS HAS BEEN SAID ALREADY.
IF WE WANT TO ADD TO THAT, THAT'S FINE.
SO LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET MAYBE ONE MORE.
MAYBE YOU MIGHT WANT TO HEAR FROM ONE MORE CONSULTANT.
YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT THEIR QUALITY, BUT IT IS.
BUT THERE MAY BE SOMEBODY BETTER.
BUT LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET ONE MORE PERSON TO INTERVIEW AND THEN GO AHEAD.
THAT WOULD BE MY CHOICE. THANK YOU, SIR.
THE ONLY THING I'D LIKE TO ADD TO IT IS THE MORE I LISTEN IN HERE BECAUSE I AM THE NEWBIE, RIGHT? I ALMOST FEEL LIKE MAYBE WE'RE PREMATURE IN THE SENSE THAT I ACTUALLY SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS MAYBE NEXT YEAR.
AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHY IS BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH UNKNOWN RIGHT NOW THAT IS COVID RELATED. AND ARE WE REALLY GOING TO ADJUST OUR TRUE LONG TERM GOALS FOR THE SHORT TERM? AND WHEN I SAY SHORT TERM, PLEASE DON'T ANYBODY THINK I THINK IT'S REALLY LIKE SHORT TERM IN A MATTER OF MONTHS, BUT IN A SHORT TERM PROBLEM.
RIGHT. IT'S OUR GOALS ARE LONG TERM.
WE HAVE THIS COVID THAT HAS IMPACTED MANY THINGS THAT WE ARE NOT EVEN QUITE GOT OUR HANDS AROUND WHAT IT'S IMPACTED.
SO I'M A DATA PERSON, SO I NEED TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE DATA TO SEE WHERE DID WE REALLY FALL OFF THE WAGON AND WHERE DIDN'T WE AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO MAYBE WHAT WE'RE THINKING IS I DO LIKE THE IDEA WHEN WE'RE IN FORT WORTH ASKING AROUND JUST TO GET SOME OTHER IDEAS, BUT MAYBE WE JUST NEED TO MOVE FORWARD ON, YOU KNOW, OUR GOALS, LOOKING AT THESE GOALS AS A BOARD AND THINKING ABOUT HOW DO WE TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL AFTER WE DIG OURSELVES OUT OF THIS TREMENDOUS THING THAT WE'VE GOT FACING US NOW.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE. WELL, I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS AFTER THIS NEXT WEEK AND WE DO HAVE A BOARD MEETING TOMORROW, BUT AFTER THIS NEXT WEEK, WHEN YOU GET THROUGH, IF THERE'S SOME KIND OF CONSENSUS TO SET UP ANOTHER SPECIAL MEETING TO FURTHER DISCUSS THE GOALS, GO OVER THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE COME BACK WITH, MAYBE AT THAT POINT WE CAN MAKE A CHOICE, MAKE A SELECTION OR MAKE A DECISION OF HOW YOU WANT THE FIRST REAL BOARD GOAL SETTING MEETING TO GO AND UNDER WHAT SYSTEM ARCHITECTURE WE'RE GOING TO DO.
THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WANT TO KNOW BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO SET ANYTHING UP IF WE WEREN'T READY. AND I KNOW IN THE MEETING THE DESIRE FOR DATA THAT WILL COME FROM STAFF, THE FIRST LONG MEETING, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO NEED A WHOLE LOT OF TIME.
I CONCUR WITH THAT. OK, SO IF Y'ALL ARE GOOD WITH THAT, THEN WHY DON'T WE END THIS DISCUSSION BY FIRST OF ALL SAYING, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
YOU CAN SEE THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE.
WE LIKE TO VET SOMETHING TOTALLY AND THIS BOARD IS VERY GOOD AT THAT.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE WANT TO MAKE A CAREFUL AND ACCURATE DECISION.
WELL THANK YOU. AND I ABSOLUTELY WOULDN'T EXPECT ANYTHING LESS THAN ROBUST CONVERSATION.
AND I'M ENCOURAGED BY THE CONVERSATION YOU'RE HAVING AND THE WORK YOU'VE ALREADY DONE.
HAVE WE SEEN THE COVID LOSS TO EACH OF THESE GOALS? SO ARE WE SAYING FOR US TO DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD OR NOT AT THAT NEXT MEETING, PER THESE GOALS AS THEY EXIST NOW?
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ARE WE GOING TO SEE I DON'T CARE WHETHER IT'S SUMMATIVE, FORMATIVE OR WHATEVER DATA ON EACH OF THESE GOALS, BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE ADDITIONAL DATA, THEN HOW ARE WE GOING TO KNOW HOW TO READJUST OR WHATEVER? SO BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET, JAMIE.MR. MILLER. BUT I REALLY THINK THAT HAS TO BE A CLEAR EXPECTATION OF WHAT DATA WE ARE EXPECTING TO SEE AT THAT NEXT MEETING.
WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO KNOW IS HOW DO YOU WANT TO PROCEED WITH THE CARRYING OUT OF THE GOAL SETTING? MY EXPECTATION WAS WHENEVER WE KICKED THIS OFF AND HAVE OUR FIRST REAL MEETING ON SETTING GOALS, THAT ALL THAT DATA SHOULD BE PRESENT, THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO KICK OFF TO SAY, OK, THE FIRST THING YOU GOT TO DO IS ASSESS WHERE YOU ARE.
LOPEZ AND YOUR STAFF WOULD BE READY.
YOU CAN SPEAK. BUT I WOULD ASSUME THAT YOU WOULD BE READY WITH THE DATA THAT WE CAN START THAT PROCESS WHEN WE DECIDE HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.
SO WE COULD GET TO THE DATA PROBABLY FINALIZED AS EARLY AS THE JULY DAC MEETING, IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT. I KNOW WE GAVE A SAMPLE AGENDA TO MR. SELDERS SINCE HE'S DAC CHAIR.
AND MAYBE WE COULD LOOK AT THAT AGENDA AND SEE IF YOU WANT TO PRESENT THIS UPDATED STAAR DATA AT THAT TIME OR IF YOU WANTED TO WAIT TO A LATER SESSION IN JULY.
I MEAN, THAT'S NOT TO BE DECIDED RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT'LL BE A LENGTHY DISCUSSION.
SO MAYBE I'M MISUNDERSTANDING.
SO ARE WE SAYING THAT WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE NOW IS STILL APPLICABLE FOR WHERE WE ARE? SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE GOALS THAT WE WALKED OUT OF.
THAT WE HAVE YEAH. WE HAVE NOT MODIFIED ANYTHING.
SO WE'RE SAYING THAT'S HOW WE'RE PROCEEDING.
AND SO WHAT? SO WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY DATA FOR 2019.
SO THAT'S A BLANK. AND THEN 2020 CAME IN AND SO THEY'RE LOWER.
SO THOSE GOALS, THERE'S NO WAY WE MET MOST OF OUR GOALS.
WE WOULD MET GRADUATION CCMR RATES AND DISCIPLINE RATES, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
BUT EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD BE SWINGING A MISS.
SO NOW THEN TO HIT THIS YEAR'S GOAL FOR THE END OF 21 22 IS A GREATER GAP.
AND SO IT MIGHT SEEM NOT FAIR OR WHATEVER IT IS, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN AROUND AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S A COVID YEAR, WE'RE GOING AFTER IT.
AND YOU SAW HOW AGGRESSIVE ON OUR LAST MEETING, HOW WE'RE MAKING NO EXCUSES ON LEARNING LOSS. WE HOPE TO BE A DISTRICT THAT FULLY RECOVERS IN A QUICK AMOUNT OF TIME.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE HAVE NOT CHANGED THEM IN THEY'RE STILL APPLICABLE.
AND I GAVE THE BOARD SOME COMPARISONS ON OTHER DISTRICTS.
AND YOU COULD SEE BY THE SAME TIME FRAME THAT OUR EXPECTATIONS WERE ALMOST DOUBLE SOME OF THE OTHERS. SO IT'S A VERY AGGRESSIVE PLAN.
OK, SO BOARD, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL TAKE THIS NEXT WEEK, Y'ALL WILL BE AT SLI FORT WORTH. YOU'LL HAVE YOUR OPPORTUNITY.
IF YOU COME UP WITH ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE FOR US TO RESEARCH, YOU CAN GET THAT DATA TO ME. WE'LL TRY TO DO THAT.
WHAT I WILL PLAN ON DOING IS CALLING ANOTHER SPECIAL SESSION, MAYBE EVEN PRIOR TO THE NEXT DAC MEETING, SO THAT WE CAN GET TOGETHER AND HAVE ANOTHER.
I WOULD ANTICIPATE MAYBE AN HOUR DISCUSSION REGARDING HOW WE WANT TO PROCEED AND THEN WOULD FROM THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SET UP A DATE FOR THE ACTUAL BOARD GOAL SETTING, FORMAL PROCESS, WHATEVER THAT'S GOING TO BE.
AND UNLESS I HEAR OBJECTION THAT'S THE WAY WE WILL GO.
WELL, I KNOW WE NEED TO MOVE QUICKLY BECAUSE WE ARE BEHIND NOT ONLY ON DISTRICT GOALS, BUT OTHER GOALS. AND BUT JULY IS AN INTERESTING MONTH AND I THINK WE'VE ALREADY HAD, IS JULY THE MONTH WE HAD TO MAKE CHANGES FOR DATES.
AND THEN THE FIRST WEEK OF JULY, THE DISTRICT IS CLOSED.
AND I REALLY HOPE WE DON'T SEND ANY OF THIS IN BOARD HIGHLIGHTS JUST TO LINDA GRIFFIN.
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SO WE WOULD LIKE TO JUST ADD THIS TO THE DAC MEETING? NO I'M JUST SAYING TO YOU, IF WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE CALENDAR, BECAUSE JULY IS THE MONTH THAT EVERYTHING SHUTS DOWN.NO, I GOT IT. THAT FIRST WEEK.
AND WHEN I'M SAYING THAT, I'M SAYING POSSIBILITY'S.
WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CALENDAR.
I WOULD HAVE TO POLL EVERYBODY TO SEE AVAILABILITY TOO.
THERE MAY BE PEOPLE GOING ON VACATION AT THAT TIME.
AND I WOULD WANT A REALLY FULL ROOM WHEN WE DISCUSS BOARD GOALS.
SO I'M IN FAVOR OF SCHEDULING AS SOON AS IS PRACTICAL AFTER THIS NEXT WEEK, WHEN Y'ALL GET SOME MORE DATA, HAVE SOME MORE TIME TO LOOK AT THE PRESENTATION THAT WE HAD THE INSTITUTION THAT IS REPRESENTED IN THAT PRESENTATION AND THEN GIVE ME SOME THOUGHTS.
AND MAYBE MR. SELDERS DO YOU WANT TO ADD TO THE DAC MEETING THAT'S PROBABLY A SAFE OR MAYBE PRIOR TO SHOW UP AN HOUR PRIOR TO COMMITTEE'S SPECIAL SESSION? NO.
I'M JUST SAYING NO THAT'S FINE.
IT TO DAC THE NEXT DISCUSSION EVERYBODY BE READY.
THE NEXT DISCUSSION TO HOPEFULLY AT THAT POINT BE ABLE TO MAKE THE DECISION OF HOW WE MOVE FORWARD ON BOARD GOAL SETTING.
OK, IT IS 4:28 AND DO WE HAVE A NEED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION? LET ME GET MY AGENDA HERE.
WE GO STRAIGHT INTO THE DISCUSS FUTURE BOND PROGRAM OPTIONS AND POSSIBLE TAX RATE ELECTION OUTLOOK.
AND THIS IS A PRESENTATION TODAY BY DR.
MR. MILLER, BOARD OF TRUSTEES, DR.
LOPEZ. THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION INQUIRY TO HAVE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.
I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME.
SO WE WILL BE IN RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES.
OK, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT IS 4:37.
WE'RE BACK FROM A BRIEF BREAK.
WE'RE GOING TO ITEM 2 B, WHICH IS DISCUSS FUTURE BOND PROGRAM OPTIONS AND POSSIBLE TAX
[III.B. Discuss Future Bond Program Options & Possible Tax Rate Election Outlook - Dr. Brent Ringo]
RATE ELECTION OUTLOOK.MS. MAYO WILL ALSO BE HELPING AS WE GO THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND INFORMATION.
WE HAVE A VERY EXCITING AND RIVETING BUDGET PRESENTATION AND BOND PROGRAM OUTLOOK PRESENTATION FOR YOU THIS EVENING.
[LAUGHTER] AND AS WE GO THROUGH IT, THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT DETAILS IN HERE.
AND ALTHOUGH IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF SLIDES, EACH SLIDE FOCUSES ON A SINGLE FISCAL YEAR.
AND WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.
BUT THE GOAL TODAY IS TO LOOK AT A FUTURE BOND PROGRAM, OPTIONS AND CAPACITY AND A TAX RATE ELECTION OUTLOOK. NEITHER OF THESE HAVE BEEN CALLED FOR JUST FOR CLARITY, FOR ANYBODY WATCHING WE ARE JUST LOOKING AT THE NEXT FEW FISCAL YEARS OF WHAT CAPACITY LOOKS LIKE AND THE IMPACT ON TAX RATE.
SO CRYSTAL BALL FOR FUTURE YEARS.
WE KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER LEGISLATIVE SESSION IN TWO YEARS.
WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THINGS USUALLY GET MORE RESTRICTIVE IN REGARDS TO LEGISLATION THAT HAS PASSED, MEANING BALLOT LANGUAGE HAS BECAME MORE RESTRICTIVE.
PROPOSITIONS ARE ALSO REQUIRED TO BE SEPARATED OUT DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF PROPOSITION BEING PROPOSED IN A BOND PROGRAM.
AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE EACH YEAR MOVING FORWARD, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? WE HAVE A REPORT THAT SHOWS VERY POSITIVE OUTLOOK IN REGARDS TO HOUSING AND STUDENTS.
OUR TAXABLE VALUE GROWTH IN COMING YEARS BECAUSE NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH COMPRESSION, MEANING TAX RATE DECREASE ON THE LOW SIDE WITH VALUE GROWTH.
IF THERE'S VALUE DECLINE, WE'RE LOOKING AT DECOMPRESSION, MEANING THE TAX RATE IS REQUIRED TO INCREASE JUST TO MAINTAIN THE SAME LEVEL OF FUNDING.
AND THEN THE COVID IMPACT MOVING FORWARD.
WHAT WILL THAT LOOK LIKE NEXT YEAR? AND ADA, OUR AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE RETURNING TO NORMAL.
AS WE'VE NOTED, TO EXPECT REVENUE ADJUSTMENTS BECAUSE THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION JUST ENDED AND WE WILL HAVE ADJUSTMENTS BEING BROUGHT FORWARD THROUGH AMENDMENTS ALREADY IN JULY THAT WE KNOW OF. THE FIRST ITEM WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS IS A FUTURE BOND PROGRAM AND A TAX RATE ELECTION OUTLOOK. AS WE LOOK AT BOND PROGRAMS, THESE CAN BE DONE IN NOVEMBER OR MAY.
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SO TWICE A YEAR THE DISTRICTS ARE ABLE TO DO THESE.THERE ARE ELECTION CYCLES WITHIN THOSE IN NOVEMBER, WHICH WE'LL LOOK AT BY FISCAL YEAR, AND THERE ARE ELECTION CYCLES IN MAY AS BOARD OF TRUSTEES, YOU'RE WELL AWARE WE HAVE AGING FACILITY NEEDS THAT ARE EXPANDING THE SIZE OF OUR BOND PROGRAM.
WE KNOW INFLATION HAS HAPPENED SINCE THE FACILITIES CONDITION ASSESSMENT WAS CONDUCTED LAST SPRING OR PRESENTED LAST SPRING.
THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE BEING VETTED AGAIN NOW JUST TO MAKE SURE INFLATION MATCHES WHERE WE'RE AT NOW. AND LOOKING AT THOSE TRIGGERS FOR FUTURE FISCAL YEARS.
WE HAVE FUTURE LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS COMING UP.
ANOTHER ONE WILL BE IN THE SPRING OF 2023.
WE HAVE NEED TO ADDRESS ONE TIME EXPENDITURE NEEDS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE BUDGET EACH FISCAL YEAR. THE BEST EXAMPLE OF THAT BEING OUR BUS FLEET REPLACEMENT AND WIDE FLEET REPLACEMENT AND TAXABLE VALUE GROWTH AND IMPACT ON THE TAX RATE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
IN THE 86TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION, HOUSE BILL THREE, THERE WAS REQUIRED BOND LANGUAGE THAT WE SEE MOVING FORWARD.
AND THIS IS WHERE AS I NOTE TYPICALLY WHEN WE HAVE SESSIONS, IT BECOMES FAR MORE RESTRICTIVE FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS, MEANING THE LANGUAGE, EVEN IF A DISTRICT IS NOT RAISING THE TAX RATE OR EVEN LOWERING THE TAX RATE WITH THE BOND PROGRAM, THE BALLOT AND CAPITAL LETTERS IS GOING TO STATE THIS IS A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE.
SO, AGAIN, EVEN IF THE DISTRICT IS GOING TO LOWER A TAX RATE OR MAINTAIN THE SAME LEVEL OF TAX RATE, IT'S GOING TO NOTICE A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE ON THE BALLOT.
THERE'S NO WAY TO ADJUST THAT LANGUAGE.
AND ALSO OUT OF THAT SAME SESSION, YOU CAN SEE THESE FOLLOWING ITEMS CAN NO LONGER BE MIXED INTO AN ENTIRE BOND PROGRAM, BUT MUST STAND ALONE FOR THE VOTERS TO VOTE ON.
AND THOSE ARE THE STADIUM, NATATORIUM PERFORMING ARTS FACILITY, REC FACILITY OTHER THAN A GYM, TEACHER HOUSING AND TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT, OTHER THAN SCHOOL SAFETY.
OUR MOST RECENT BOND PROGRAM THAT WE ARE CLOSING OUT, THE VOTERS APPROVED FOUR HUNDRED FIFTY FIVE MILLION FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND.
THE DISTRICT DID GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THIS WITH GENERAL FUND DOLLARS FOR PROJECTS THAT WERE NEEDED IN THAT BOND PROGRAM.
BUT IN STRICTLY JUST TO BOND DOLLARS, YOU CAN SEE THOSE DETAILS ARE PRESENTED EACH MONTH TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING AND IN THE FACILITIES COMMITTEE MEETING. TOTAL PROJECTS CLOSED IN 2018 WAS WE ARE AT ZERO TOTAL PROJECT CLOSED IN 2021 WE ARE 88.
SO WE ARE APPROACHING A VERY SUCCESSFUL END TO THE BOND PROGRAM.
THIS SUMMARY BY CATEGORY, YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT IS BROKEN OUT AND WHY THAT EXCEEDS 455 MILLION FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND IS DUE TO THE COMMITMENT THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO UTILIZE INTEREST INCOME FOR THE GARLAND HIGH SCHOOL RENOVATIONS AND HVAC ENERGY MANAGEMENT CONTROLS.
AND WHEN THOSE WERE APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES ARE NOTED THERE.
THIS IS A LOT OF DETAIL ON THIS SLIDE, WHAT THE KEY PIECE TO FOCUS ON HERE IS ON THE ELECTION PROCESS IS WHEN IT MUST BE CALLED FOR.
THE LAST DAY FOR A BOARD TO ORDER AN ELECTION IS ALWAYS 78 DAYS BEFORE THE UNIFORM ELECTION DATE, AND THAT'S IN MAY AND IN NOVEMBER, WE WILL SHOW SOME SPECIFIC DATES AS WE GO THROUGH THIS. BUT THIS IS KIND OF A TIMELINE FOR AN ELECTION PROCESS, MEANING 78 DAYS PRIOR, WE WOULD HAVE TO KNOW IN A BOND PROGRAM WHAT PROJECTS ARE BEING PROPOSED ON THAT BALLOT. SO IT MUST BE BY THAT POINT, THE COMMITTEE PROCESS HAS TAKEN PLACE.
THE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN NARROWED DOWN TO A SPECIFIC DOLLAR AMOUNT.
THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES HAVE APPROVED THAT AND CALLING FOR A BOND PROGRAM TO SUPPORT THAT.
THAT WAY, THAT ELECTION MAY TAKE PLACE AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
THESE OTHERS, I'M NOT GOING TO READ THROUGH THEM, BUT THIS IS KIND OF AS TASB PROVIDED THE ELECTION CYCLE FOR A BOND PROGRAM PROCESS WHETHER THAT OCCUR IN MAY OR OCCUR IN NOVEMBER. LEGAL AND BALLOT LANGUAGE.
WHY ARE MULTIPLE PROPOSITIONS WHY CAN THEY BE REQUIRED NOW? AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, TEXAS LEGISLATION REQUIRES SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO HAVE SEPARATE PROPOSITIONS FOR BONDS THAT WILL FUND CONSTRUCTION OR IMPROVEMENTS FOR ATHLETIC FACILITIES WITH ONE THOUSAND OR MORE SEATS IN NATATORIUMS, PERFORMING ARTS FACILITIES, REC FACILITIES, TEACHER HOUSING OR TECHNOLOGY IMPROVEMENTS.
USED TO THESE COULD BE JUMBLED INTO THE ENTIRE BOND PROGRAM.
NOW THEY MUST STAND ALONE ON THEIR OWN BALLOT.
WILL THE BALLOT INDICATE A TAX INCREASE AND IS THIS ACCURATE? RECENT CHANGES TO THE LAW AS OF TWO YEARS AGO NOW REQUIRE ALL BALLOTS TO INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE. THIS IS A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE EVEN WHEN THE DISTRICT IS LOWERING OR NOT CHANGING THE TAX RATE.
SO IT'S GOING TO STATE IT AS A TAX INCREASE ON THE BALLOT, EVEN THOUGH THAT TAX RATE MAY REMAIN UNCHANGED OR LOWER.
WHEN CAN BOND PROGRAM ELECTIONS BE HELD? THEY CAN BE HELD IN MAY OR NOVEMBER, AS WE'LL SEE SHORTLY WITH THE TAX RATE ELECTION
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PROCESS. THOSE CAN ONLY BE HELD IN NOVEMBER.SO BOND PROGRAMS GIVE US TWO OPTIONS PER YEAR, TRE'S GIVE US ONE.
HOW MUCH DISCRETION DOES THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES HAVE WITH BOND FUNDS BEYOND WHAT IS ALLOCATED FOR? AND AS YOU CAN READ HERE, AS WE'RE DOING NOW, ONCE WE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY REACHED THE END OF A BOND PROGRAM AND WE HAVE REMAINING BOND DOLLARS OR BOND INTEREST INCOME, THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES MAY APPROVE WHAT WE HAVE CALLED ORPHAN PROJECTS, REMAINING PROJECTS THAT WERE REMOVED FROM PRIOR BOND PROGRAM AS LONG AS IT MEETS THE LEGAL LANGUAGE OF HOW THAT ORIGINAL BOND PROGRAM WAS ADVERTISED IN THE WORDING.
SO BOND CAPACITY, THIS IS WHERE WE'LL LOOK AT A MAY 2022 BOND CAPACITY.
TIMELINE AND CONSIDERATIONS FROM MAY OF 2022 BOND ELECTION FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 18TH WILL BE THE LAST DAY TO ORDER A GENERAL ELECTION.
THOSE BOND PROJECTS WILL NEED TO BE IDENTIFIED ALONG WITH THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS NEEDED TO SUPPORT THOSE BOND PROJECTS.
MAY 7TH 2022 IS THE UNIFORM ELECTION DATE WHERE THIS WOULD BE DECIDED.
TAXABLE ASSESSED VALUE DETERMINATIONS FROM THE DALLAS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT MAY IMPACT THIS PROJECTED TAX RATE.
STARTING MARCH OF 2022 DALLAS OR DCAD WILL GIVE US A PROJECTED VALUE GROWTH.
FROM THAT POINT WE START BUILDING A BUDGET PROJECTION WITH THAT VALUE GROWTH TO IMPACT THE TAX RATE THAT WE WOULD ADOPT IN AUGUST.
SO WE GET VERBAL COMMUNICATION IN MARCH, A PRELIMINARY LETTER IN APRIL ANOTHER ONE IN MAY AND THAT VALUE CHANGES EVERY MONTH AND IT TYPICALLY DROPS FIVE PERCENT BETWEEN MARCH AND AUGUST BY THE TIME WE ADOPT OUR TRUE TAX RATE.
INFLATION ON CURRENT ASSUMPTIONS AND THE BOND COMMITTEE FOR THIS PROCESS.
SO LOOKING AT A MAY 2022, THE THREE WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON ARE A 20 YEAR, A 25 YEAR AND A 30 YEAR REPAYMENT OPTION.
GARLAND ISD HAS HISTORICALLY DONE, 20 YEAR REPAYMENT ON BOND PROGRAMS. MOST DISTRICTS DOING BOND PROGRAMS EVERY FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS HAVE TRANSITIONED TO A 25 OR 30 YEAR REPAYMENT OPTION.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE CAPACITY, WHETHER WHATEVER MODEL WE CHOOSE TO FOLLOW WITHOUT TRULY IMPACTING THE TAX RATE.
WHAT THIS SHOWS HERE WITH THE THREE PERCENT TAV GROWTH GOING INTO THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE'RE LOOKING AT A .3094 TAX RATE.
WHAT THAT DISTRICT CONTRIBUTION MEANS WE HAVE FUND BALANCE ON THE I&S SIDE.
IF IT'S ZERO, IT MEANS WE'RE NOT USING ANY FUND BALANCE TO HELP PAY DOWN OUR DEBT OR OUR PRINCIPAL INTEREST.
WHERE YOU SEE DISTRICT CONTRIBUTION AT 23 TWENTY FOUR.
WHAT THAT IS KNOWING AT THAT TAX RATE WE WOULD NEED TO UTILIZE THREE MILLION FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY FOUR THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED SIXTY TWO DOLLARS TO MEET OUR DEBT OBLIGATION AND PAYMENT FOR THAT YEAR. SO WE WOULD EAT INTO OUR I&S FUND BALANCE.
WHAT AND THAT IS TOTALLY OK AND ACCEPTABLE.
AND SO IT'S JUST SHOWING HOW MUCH OF THAT FUND BALANCE WE WOULD UTILIZE ON THE I&S SIDE, NOT M&O. SO OUR I&S FUND BALANCE CAN ONLY BE USED TO PAY PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST.
IT CANNOT BE USED TO SUPPORT SALARIES RAISES TO BUY BUSSES.
WE HAVE TO INCUR DEBT TO PAY IT AND THAT DEBT IS BONDS.
AND SO IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO A MORTGAGE ON A HOME.
THAT MONEY IS DEDICATED STRICTLY TO PAY DOWN OUR PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST.
AND THOSE TAX RATE ASSUMPTIONS, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE WOULD NEVER EXCEED A POINT THREE ONE TWO ZERO UNDER THIS VALUATION GROWTH, IT WOULD ACTUALLY START TO DECLINE IN FUTURE FISCAL YEARS AS WE PAY DOWN OUR DEBT.
SO A 20 YEAR REPAYMENT PLAN CAPACITY BEING 772 MILLION FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND.
IF WE LOOK AT TWENTY FIVE YEAR, I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO THE COLUMNS IN THOSE MEETINGS AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE TAX RATE REMAINING THE SAME.
SAME ASSUMPTIONS FOR TAXABLE ACCESSED VALUE GROWTH AND THAT DISTRICT CONTRIBUTION AMOUNT THAT INCREASES TO EIGHT HUNDRED FIFTY SEVEN MILLION FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND.
EIGHTY FIVE MILLION MORE FROM THE PRIOR ASSUMPTION.
FOR A 30 YEAR THAT CAPACITY FOR MAY OF 2022 INCREASES TO NINE HUNDRED TWELVE MILLION FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, SO IT GOES UP QUITE A BIT FROM 20 TO 30.
AND THE DISTRICT STILL BEING ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS WITHOUT INCREASING THE TAX RATE.
SO NOW IF WE GO TO MAY OF 2023, SO ONE YEAR FURTHER ELECTION DATES ARE NOT POSTED YET ON THE TEXAS SECRETARY OF STATE WEBSITE.
WHAT WILL OUR TAXABLE ACCESSED VALUE GROWTH.
WILL IT MEET OUR PROJECTIONS, AS YOU CAN SEE IN OUR PROJECTIONS, JUST TO HIGHLIGHT, THESE ARE VERY CONSERVATIVE PROJECTIONS.
THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD DOUBLE DIGIT PERCENT GROWTH.
THE ECONOMY IS RECOVERING AND WE DO SEE THAT.
SO THE PROJECTION BEING NEXT YEAR, WE'RE AT THREE PERCENT AND THEN TWO TWO TWO AND THEN A ZERO ALL THE WAY OUT.
SO THAT'S A VERY SAFE CONSERVATIVE PROJECTION THAT IF THERE WAS DECLINE, THAT THAT TAX
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RATE WOULD BE SUSTAINABLE FOR THE DISTRICT IN THE BOND PROGRAM.WE KNOW WE HAVE AGING FACILITIES THAT ADDS ANOTHER YEAR TO THOSE NEEDS.
IT MAY EVEN ADD SOME OTHER FACILITIES THAT WERE NOT IDENTIFIED AS NEEDING SOME FORM OF RENOVATION OR SOME MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT BEING IDENTIFIED TO BE ADDED TO THE SCOPE.
SO ASSUMPTIONS WITH THE MAY OF 2023 BOND PROGRAM AT 20 YEARS, THAT CAPACITY NOW INCREASES WITH THE SAME TAX RATE AT .3120 TO EIGHT HUNDRED FORTY EIGHT MILLION SEVEN HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS AT A 20 YEAR PAYMENT PLAN.
I WILL NOT TALK THROUGH EACH OF THOSE ASSUMPTIONS BECAUSE WE ALREADY DISCUSSED THOSE IN DETAIL ABOUT THE TAX RATE BEING FROZEN AT POINT THREE, ONE TWO ZERO AND THE DISTRICT CONTRIBUTION AMOUNT AND THE TAV GROWTH.
IF WE WERE TO MOVE TO A 25 YEAR REPAYMENT PLAN IN MAY OF 2023, THAT'S NINE HUNDRED FORTY THREE MILLION SEVEN HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND.
AND THEN IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT A 30 YEAR IN MAY OF 2023, ONE BILLION, TWO MILLION FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND CAPACITY.
AND THE FINAL YEAR, THREE YEARS OUT FROM NOW, FOR CONSIDERATIONS, THOSE DATES FOR THE ELECTION ARE NOT POSTED YET.
TAV GROWTH PROJECTIONS, INFLATION, AGING FACILITIES, ADDITIONAL SCOPE OF PROJECTS NOT INCLUDED IN CURRENT FACILITIES DUE TO IT BEING THREE MORE YEARS OUT, THERE WOULD BE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ADDED.
SO ASSUMPTIONS FOR MAY 2024, THAT CAPACITY NOW INCREASE TO NINE HUNDRED AND THIRTY EIGHT MILLION SEVEN HUNDRED AND 50 THOUSAND WITH THE SAME I&S TAX RATE INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE SEEN AND THAT DISTRICT CONTRIBUTION AMOUNT THAT YOU CAN SEE IN THAT FAR RIGHT COLUMN.
AT A TWENTY FIVE YEAR REPAYMENT PLAN, ONE BILLION FORTY TWO MILLION FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND.
AND AS WE GET TO THIRTY YEAR, ONE BILLION, ONE HUNDRED EIGHT MILLION, 750 THOUSAND CAPACITY AT THAT SAME TAX RATE.
THAT'S OUR BOND PROGRAM CAPACITY FOR 2022 2023 AND 2024, MAY ELECTIONS.
AND IF THERE'S ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS AND THEN NEXT STEPS.
OPEN UP TO THE REST OF THE BOARD SO THEY'LL LOOK THROUGH THOSE NUMBERS, JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT AND GENERALIZE.
IN GENERAL WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS EVERY YEAR WE WAIT IT LET'S INCLUDE UP TO ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS, OF ADDITIONAL FUNDING AT THAT SAME ASSUMED TAX RATE.
YES, SIR. AND TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT MATH.
WHAT IS IT THAT HAPPENS IN A YEAR THAT ALLOWS US TO ADD ONE HUNDRED MILLION TO THAT.
WHERE THAT MATH BEING ONE, OUR CURRENT PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST, WE'RE PAYING THAT DEBT DOWN MORE. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS COMING YEARS, DEBT PAYMENT'S, ROUGHLY SIXTY TWO MILLION DOLLARS. IF WE'RE NOT ADDING TO THAT, WE'RE COLLECTING THAT SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE TO PAY DOWN THAT DEBT. SO WE'RE GOING TO ADD TO FUND BALANCE ON THE I&S SIDE.
WHAT IS THE CURRENT FUND BALANCE IN THE I&S FUND? ROUGHLY 70 MILLION.
SO WHEN WE WERE LOOKING ON THAT RIGHT HAND COLUMN ABOUT MONIES NEEDED TO TAKE OUT OF OUR CASH BALANCE TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE IN CURRENT REVENUE TO MAKE THAT TOTAL DEBT PAYMENT, IS THERE ANYWHERE IN THERE? WERE THAT CASH RESERVE AS WE GO OUT DOES THAT EVER GET EXHAUSTED? IT GETS EXHAUSTED DOWN TO ROUGHLY 10 MILLION.
IT NEVER GOES TO ZERO. SO IT NEVER GOES TO ZERO.
THERE'S STILL CAPACITY WITHIN THESE PROJECTIONS JUST IN CASE SOMETHING CRAZY HAPPENS IN THE MARKET OR THE WORLD THAT WE DO HAVE CAPACITY THERE AS A SAFETY NET OF ROUGHLY 10 MILLION TO SUPPORT THIS.
BUT THERE COMES A POINT SOMEWHERE IN THE OUT YEARS WHERE WE WILL BE HITTING THAT FUND ALMOST EVERY YEAR, USING THAT MONEY FOR ITS ONLY PURPOSE, WHICH IS TO PAY DEBT PAYMENTS.
YES, SIR. THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO WITH THAT MONEY IS TO PAY DEBT PAYMENTS.
YES, SIR. SO LEVERAGING ON THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A BALANCE, IT WOULD NOT EXHAUST IT, BUT IT WOULD EAT INTO IT PRETTY HEAVILY ON ALL THREE OF THOSE ALL THREE OF THOSE SCENARIOS GIVEN THAT THERE'S THREE SCENARIOS WITHIN EVERY YOU GOT A 21 SCENARIO, A 22 SCENARIO AND A 23. AND THEN YOU GOT THREE OPTIONS WITHIN THERE.
SO IN ALL OF THOSE SCENARIOS, I GUESS THERE'S SIX OF THEM.
THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT FISCAL YEARS, NINE TOTAL SCENARIOS.
AND THEN EVERY ONE OF THEM DOES IT GET DOWN TO AROUND 10 MILLION.
IN EVERY SCENARIO, THE SAFETY NET WAS ROUGHLY 10 MILLION FOR ALL NINE SCENARIOS.
ALL RIGHT. BOARD DO YOU HAVE ANY.
AND DR. RINGO JUST PLEASE EXTEND HOW IF YOU DID IF YOU LET'S SAY LET'S GO BACK TO MAY 2022 . RIGHT. AND THE BOARD SAYS, WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.
THESE ARE PARTICULARLY CLOSE SCENARIOS, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE IF WE DID NOVEMBER 2022,
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CORRECT OR INCORRECT.THE NOVEMBER 2022, THESE CAPACITY SCENARIOS WOULD DECREASE SOME BECAUSE THE DEBT WOULD BE INCURRED SOONER. SO THE SOONER JUST AS WE SEE WHEN WE GOT TO SURE. 22, 23, 24, THE SOONER WE INCUR THE DEBT, THE CAPACITY GETS SMALLER.
SURE. NOW, IT WOULD NOT BE A LARGE VARIANCE FROM THIS, BUT GOING TO NOVEMBER OF 2022, IT WOULD BE LESS CAPACITY.
AND BASED OFF THE TIME FRAME, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO CALL IN AUGUST.
EVEN IN THAT SCENARIO, THOUGH, WE WOULD GET DOWN TO AROUND 10 MILLION CUSHION.
IN THAT SCENARIO IN THE NOVEMBER ELECTION, THAT SOON THAT CUSHION MAY BE LESS THAN 10 MILLION. NOT 2021.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 2022. OH, YES SIR, MY FAULT.
NOVEMBER OF 2022 THAT CAPACITY WOULD ACTUALLY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE. I'M THINKING. DR.
LOPEZ, THANK YOU FOR THE CORRECTION.
I WAS THINKING NOVEMBER OF 2021.
IF WE WERE IN NOVEMBER OF 2022, THAT CAPACITY FOR EXAMPLE ON A TWENTY YEAR WOULD BE BETWEEN SEVEN HUNDRED SEVENTY TWO MILLION TO EIGHT HUNDRED AND FORTY MILLION.
SO IT WOULD PROBABLY BE CLOSER TO.
RIGHT. AND SO LOOKING AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE SCENARIOS, BECAUSE IT KIND OF GIVES THE BOARD THE IDEA OF THE AFFORDABILITY OF WHATEVER A BOND ISSUE COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE IF THERE WAS EVER A DAY WHERE THE BOARD DECIDED TO DO A BOND ISSUE.
SO AND I THINK IS THE REASON DR.
RINGO BROUGHT IT AS BOARD MEMBERS WERE INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT OUR DEBT CAPACITY WAS AND THEN TELL ME ONE MORE TIME.
EVERY YEAR WE'RE PAYING DOWN HOW MUCH OF OUR PRINCIPAL IN OUR BONDS.
EVERY YEAR WE'RE PAYING DOWN THE EXACT AMOUNT THAT'S DUE.
WE ARE NOT LAST YEAR IT WAS ROUGHLY SIXTY SEVEN MILLION.
THIS YEAR IT'S ROUGHLY 65 MILLION.
NEXT YEAR IT'S ROUGHLY 62, 63 MILLION.
AND WHAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THAT DEBT OUTSTANDING.
I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU THAT INCORRECT NUMBER.
MAYBE YOU CAN GET IT LATER TODAY. BUT I WANT TO SAY ROUGHLY, WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON THIS YEAR'S AUDIT. I WANT TO SAY TOTAL OUTSTANDING DEBT AND I'LL VERIFY THIS, BUT I WANT TO SAY IT'S IN THE 400 MILLION RANGE.
AND YOU CAN VERIFY THAT LATER.
I WILL VERIFY THAT LATER. BOARD.
SO AT OUR LAST MEETINGS LAST WEEK, WE TALK I'M ASSUMING WE DO THAT TOMORROW AUTHORIZING PBK TO GO FORWARD AND DO A REANALYSIS OF THEIR NUMBERS, CORRECT? YES, SIR, THAT IS CORRECT.
DO WE HAVE A TIME FRAME WORK ON THAT? WE DO. SO WE REACHED OUT TO PBK TO LET THEM KNOW WE'RE BRINGING THIS BACK TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL AND WE WANT CLARITY OF WHAT WOULD THEIR TURNAROUND TIME BE? AND THEY SAID THEY FEEL LIKE THEY COULD GET THE INFLATION INDICATORS DONE WITHIN ONE MONTH. AND SO THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE IN THE JULY FIRST PART OF AUGUST.
WE WOULD HAVE AN UPDATED NOT JUST FOR THIS YEAR, BUT FUTURE YEARS OUT.
SO AT THAT TIME WE'LL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO HAVE A MUCH BETTER IDEA OF THE PROJECTS THAT THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT AND MAYBE EVEN THINK ABOUT ADDITIONAL PROJECTS, TIE THAT INTO THESE NUMBERS AND THEN HAVE A REASONABLE SCENARIO.
I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE WHO I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT AS TO AND THEN AT SOME POINT MAKE A DECISION WHAT'S SAY THE TIME FRAME WORK.
WHAT'S MORE ACCEPTABLE TO BOARD MEMBERS, WHETHER IT'S MAY OR NOVEMBER, HOW MUCH TIME WE NEED BOND COMMITTEES AND ALL THAT.
BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE FOR ME, THAT WOULD BE THE STARTING POINT IS WHEN THEIR REPORT COMES BACK. THANK YOU, SIR.
MR. GLICK, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO SEE IN THE BOARD IS TWO THINGS.
WE KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE UPDATED REPORT ON OUR FACILITY ASSESSMENT.
OK, THEN WE HAVE THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
THE SOONER THE BOARD CAN GIVE US DIRECTION, THE BETTER PLANNING WE CAN DO AND HAVE THE RUNWAY WE NEED TO DO IT RIGHT.
OK, IF YOU LOOK HERE, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A NOVEMBER 2021 ELECTION.
OK, BUT WELL, WE DID PUT THE MAY BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO EVENTUALLY HAVE TO BE TWO ELECTIONS. ONE IS GOING TO BE THE BOND AND THE SECOND ONE IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE TAX RATIFICATION ELECTION EVENTUALLY.
AND SO WE WANT THE BOARD TO LOOK AT ALL THE SCENARIOS.
AND ONCE THEY GIVE US DIRECTION, THE PLANNING AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN PREPARATION IT COULD REALLY LAY A STRONG FOUNDATION FOR US TO TAKE OFF WITH.
AND THEN THOSE COULD BE UPDATES DONE IN EITHER IN FINANCE FACILITIES, DEPENDING ON WHERE THAT'S AT, AS WE BUILD IT UP, WHO THE GROUPS ARE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A DECISION TODAY.
AND MR. GLICK TO EXPAND ON THAT TOO.
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WE WOULD INCORPORATE OUR OUR FINANCIAL ADVISER GEORGE WILIFORD AND ERICK MACHA FOR THE DISTRICT HAS HELPED US FORMULATE THESE NUMBERS.THAT POINT WOULD ALSO EXPAND THAT TO OUR BOND COUNCIL AND BEGIN THAT PROCESS WORKING WITH THE BOARD. YEAH.
LET ME ASK ONE QUESTION. LOOKING AT THE CHART, IF AND THIS IS A WHAT IF, IF WE DID A MAY OF 23 BOND ELECTION, THERE WOULDN'T BE A CORRESPONDING THERE WOULD BE A CORRESPONDING 26 CENT INCREASE TO THE I&S FUND.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE HANDLED AT THE SAME TIME AS THE BOND ELECTION? IN OTHER WORDS, IT GOES FROM THIRTY POINT NINE FOUR TO THIRTY ONE POINT TWENTY.
AT THE ADOPTION OF A TAX RATE.
THAT WOULD BE DONE AT THE ADOPTION OF THE TAX RATE. SO WE WOULD GOING INTO THAT MODEL.
AUGUST. WE WOULD ADOPT THAT TAX RATE IN AUGUST AND THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO COLLECT THE REVENUE TO PLAN FOR THAT SO AUGUST IS WHEN THE I&S TAX RATE IS SET EVERY YEAR.
YES, SIR. WHETHER YOU HAVE AN ELECTION OR NOT.
YEP, IT'S ALL BASED OFF THE, OUR DEBT AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM PAYING ATTENTION TO THE BOARD MEETING.
OUR BOND IN INDEBTEDNESS AS OF RIGHT NOW IS 459 MILLION FIVE HUNDRED FORTY FIVE THOUSAND.
MR. GLICK. YEAH THANK YOU, SIR.
THE OTHER COMPONENT, OF COURSE, THAT I THINK WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT IS WHAT THE FED IS GOING TO DO IN TERMS OF INTEREST RATES.
AND AT THEIR LAST MEETING, THEY TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY A COUPLE OF INCREASES COME 2023.
NOW, WHETHER WE BELIEVE THAT OR NOT, AS INFLATION STARTS TO HEAT UP, THERE IS SOME THOUGHT AMONG OTHER ECONOMISTS, NOT NECESSARILY ASSOCIATED WITH THE FED THAT THEY MAY HAVE TO DO INCREASES BEFORE THAT, MAYBE LATE 2022.
AND ONCE THOSE INCREASES START TO PERCOLATE THROUGH THE SYSTEM, THAT WILL ALSO AFFECT MUNI BOND RATES. AND AT THAT POINT, THE COSTS OF ALL THIS GO UP OR THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS WE CAN SPEND AND KEEP INTEREST, OR KEEP OUR TAX RATES EVEN WILL DECREASE.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER COMPONENT THAT WE'RE FIGHTING, KNOWING THAT THEY'VE ALREADY INDICATED 2023. SO SOMETHING JUST TO THINK ABOUT.
THANK YOU, SIR. AND TO HELP ON OUR ASSUMPTIONS, WE'RE VERY CONSERVATIVE IN THESE ASSUMPTIONS AND THESE PROJECTIONS DO INCLUDE INCREASED RATES WITHIN THEM OF THE EXACT AMOUNT I WANT TO SAY 150 BASIS POINTS.
BUT I WOULD JUST I WOULD NEED TO VERIFY THAT.
BUT WE DO CONSIDER THAT OCCURRING WITHIN THIS MODEL JUST TO PROTECT.
MEANING IF THOSE RATES WERE NOT TO GO UP, THAT CAPACITY IS DEFINITELY THERE.
DO YOU FOLLOW ANY KIND OF DASHBOARD OR BULLETIN WITH RESPECT TO TAX INTEREST RATE EXPECTATIONS FROM OUR BOND CONSULTANTS? HAS ANYBODY PROVIDED YOU WITH THAT KIND OF DATA.
YES SIR. NOT ONLY DOES OUR FA DO THAT, OUR BOND UNDERWRITERS THAT THE BOARD RECENTLY APPROVED THIS PAST MONTH DO SEND ME UPDATES SOME SEND ME UPDATES WEEKLY.
SOME SEND ME THOSE UPDATES ONCE A MONTH, BUT THEN ALSO ON MY OWN WITH THE DALLAS FEDERAL RESERVE BANK. DO THEY DO THE LONG TERM AS WELL AS THE SHORT TERM SIR THEY DO. IS THAT I DON'T NEED IT EVERY MONTH.
BUT IS THAT A PIECE OF DATA WE COULD HAVE MAYBE RIGHT NOW, PRETTY SOON, SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF LOOK AT IT IN RESPECT TO LONG RANGE PLANNING TO SEE WHAT RATES SPEAKERS]. JUST IN REGARDS TO THE RATE.
YEAH, THE RATES ONE AND TWO YEARS OUT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THEY'LL GO BUT AND I DON'T KNOW HOW GOOD THEIR CRYSTAL BALL IS.
BUT WE ARE HEARING SOME THINGS FROM THE FED, FROM THE TREASURY, FROM POLITICIANS, FROM EVERYBODY ABOUT INTEREST RATES.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO STAY ON TOP OF THAT BECAUSE I THINK MR. GLICK IS RIGHT. INTEREST RATES COULD CARVE BACK OUR EXPECTED BOND ISSUES IF WE FIND OURSELVES IN THAT SITUATION.
MR. MILLER IF I'M ABLE TO DO THAT THIS WEEK, I WILL HAVE THAT TO Y'ALL THIS WEEK IF NOT IT WILL BE NEXT WEEK. OK, YOU WANT TO CONTINUE? YES, SIR. THE NEXT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT IS A MAINTENANCE OPERATION TAX RATE ELECTION OUTLOOK BY FISCAL YEAR AND THE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS.
JUST TO HIGHLIGHT OUR TAX RATE COMPARISONS AS OF THE MOST RECENT TAX YEAR THAT WE'RE IN NOW. YOU CAN SEE THESE ARE ALL THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN DALLAS COUNTY, THE DISTRICTS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW OR GOLD, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOUR SCREEN IS SHOWING.
THOSE ARE DISTRICTS THAT HAVE PASSED A TAX RATE ELECTION IN PRIOR YEARS.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE M&O TAX RATE IS FOR THOSE DISTRICTS, THE I&S TAX RATE FOR THOSE DISTRICTS AND THE TOTAL TAX RATE.
BASED OFF THE AUDITED 2019, 2020 FISCAL YEAR YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE GENERAL FUND REVENUE PER
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STUDENT IS. AGAIN, GENERAL FUND REVENUE IN TAX RATE WE'RE FUNDED OFF AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE AND HOW MUCH WE TAX THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO TAX UNDER THE LAW.I&S IS STRICTLY TAXABLE VALUES AND DEBT IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW MANY STUDENTS WE HAVE IT'S STRICTLY JUST TAXABLE VALUE AND WHAT WE OWE IN DEBT.
WE HAVE THE THIRD LOWEST TAX RATE OUT OF 16 DISTRICTS IN DALLAS COUNTY.
WE'RE ALSO FUNDED THE THIRD LOWEST IN REVENUE PER STUDENT OUT OF DISTRICTS IN DALLAS COUNTY. AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT VARIANCE BEING QUITE LARGE, THOSE DISTRICTS THAT HAVE PASSED THE TRE AND WHAT THEIR GENERAL FUND REVENUE PER STUDENT IS COMPARED TO GARLAND ISD AT EIGHT THOUSAND SIX NINE NINE.
KEY TAKE AWAY THE STATE FUNDING SYSTEM IN TEXAS IS STRUCTURED TO PROVIDE GARLAND ISD WITH A BASIC AMOUNT OF FUNDING.
IN NO WAY DOES IT ACCOUNT FOR ALL THE GREAT PROGRAMS WE OFFER AND INVESTMENTS WE DO WITH OUR STUDENTS THAT COMPETITIVENESS THE DISTRICT TO DISTRICT, THE MORE MONEY YOU GENERATE PER STUDENT. AS WE KNOW, 80 TO 90 PERCENT OF A DISTRICT'S BUDGET IS IN SALARIES.
SO WHEN DISTRICTS ARE ABLE TO GENERATE MORE MONEY PER STUDENT, THEY'RE ABLE TO PAY MORE IN SALARIES AND INVEST MORE IN VARIOUS PROGRAMS. AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE PAYROLL SIDE.
WITHIN THAT NON-PAYROLL SIDE YOU'LL SEE A DOLLAR UP HERE SHORTLY THAT BREAKS OUT HOW MUCH OF THAT IS COMMITTED TO PAYROLL? HOW MUCH OF THAT IS COMMITTED TO NON-PAYROLL.
AND WITHIN THAT, HOW MUCH IS UTILITIES.
AND I'LL SAY THIS OVER AND OVER.
HOW SCHOOL FUNDING HAS WORKED AS WE PAY MORE IN PROPERTY TAXES, THE STATE CUTS US BY THAT SAME DOLLAR AMOUNT. THAT'S THE EXACT SAME THING UNDER HOUSE BILL THREE, THERE IS NO NEW MONEY FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION.
SO EVERY YEAR WHEN WE'VE PAID MORE IN TAXES AND THROUGH THE YEARS, THE STATE HAS CUT US BY THE SAME AMOUNT. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN OUR STATE REVENUE VERSUS LOCAL REVENUE, AS OUR PERCENT OF SHARE GOES UP OF LOCAL REVENUE, THE STATE SHARE OF FUNDING PUBLIC ED IS GOING DOWN. AND THAT IS THE MODEL FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION IN TEXAS.
SIMILAR TO FEDERAL REVENUE, AS WE SAW WITH CARES FUNDING.
TYPICALLY AS FEDERAL SHARE INCREASES WITH RELIEF FUNDING, THE STATE REDUCES THAT.
THEY'VE DONE THAT WITH CARES ESSER ONE OF 12 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
ESSER THREE IT WAS PROHIBITED FROM HAPPENING UNDER FEDERAL LAW WHEN THE FEDS WERE LEARNING WHAT TEXAS WAS DOING. ESSER 2 DOES NOT PROHIBIT THAT.
SO ESSER 2 THERE WILL BE SOME OFFSET WITH WHAT WE RECEIVE IN STATE FUNDING VERSUS FEDERAL FUNDING WHEN THAT DOES PLAY OUT.
WHAT THAT NUMBER IS RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T KNOW.
INTERCESSIONS OCCURRING THIS WEEK, AN AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE IS PART OF THAT PROCESS.
AND SOME OF OUR FUNDING INDICATORS, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE FLYING THAT PLANE AND CLOSING DOWN A BUDGET. AND SO WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR TRUE REVENUE IS YET AT THIS POINT.
YEAH. JUST REAL QUICK, REMIND US WHAT THE ESSER 1, 2, AND THREE, POTENTIAL FUNDING AMOUNTS ARE. GREAT QUESTION ESSER 1 WAS CARES.
WE HAVE ALREADY UTILIZED THAT WITH THEY CUT WE RECEIVED TWELVE POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS LATE LAST SPRING, EARLY SUMMER, AND WE UTILIZED THAT FOR PLEXIGLASS NEEDS, CLEANING NEEDS FOR THE DISTRICT. AND SO THE STATE IN THAT SAME ASPECT CUT US TWELVE POINT FIVE DOLLARS MILLION. SO THERE WAS NO ADDITIONAL FUNDING WITH CARES ONE.
THE DEADLINE TO APPLY FOR THAT, I BELIEVE, IS SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR OF 2021.
OUR TEAM IS WORKING THROUGH THOSE DISCUSSIONS NOW WITH THE GRANT WRITING TEAM AND CURRICULUM TEAM TO GET AN APPLICATION TOGETHER FOR THAT.
THAT IS ROUGHLY FORTY EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS AND IT'S GOING TO BE REDUCED WITH THE ADA AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE HOLD HARMLESS.
THE STATE IS GUARANTEEING US FOR THIS YEAR WITH THE COVID IMPACT.
WHEN I SAY REDUCE THEY'LL REDUCE OUR STATE FUNDING, WE WILL GET THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THAT GRANT, BUT OUR STATE FUNDING WILL BE CUT BY WHAT THAT DIFFERENCE IS.
SO THERE'S SOME SUPPLANTING GOING ON.
ESSER 3 IS THE ONE THAT WAS PASSED IN MARCH AND IT'S ROUGHLY ONE HUNDRED TEN MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE WERE RECEIVING.
ROUGHLY 10 MILLION OF THAT GOES TOWARDS INDIRECT COST RATES THAT WE MUST PAY.
SO IT'S REALLY ABOUT A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE TO ALLOCATE OUT.
AND THAT INFORMATION WILL ACTUALLY BE PRESENTED TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES TOMORROW AS WE GO THROUGH IT.
SO ON TWO THEY'RE GOING TO APPLY OUR ACTUAL ADA AND THAT WILL TELL US HOW MUCH THEY'RE GOING TO SUPPLANT US, THE WORD TO USE AND HOW MUCH WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO SUBTRACT FROM US FROM THAT FORTY EIGHT MILLION.
YES SIR. SO LET'S JUST SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, OUR TRUE AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE THIS YEAR IS FIFTY ONE THOUSAND.
AND BECAUSE OF COVID, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT HIGHER IN THAT BASED OFF OUR TRENDS OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN IN PRIOR YEARS.
AND LET'S SAY BECAUSE OF PRIOR YEARS AND THAT TREND LINE, THEY'RE GOING TO HOLD US AT FIFTY TWO THOUSAND.
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SO A THOUSAND HIGHER OF THAT, THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE US THAT ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR THE HOLD HARMLESS ASPECT. SO WHATEVER THAT DIFFERENCE IS, LET'S JUST SAY IT'S TEN MILLION DOLLARS. THEY'RE GOING TO CUT OUR STATE FUNDING BY 10 MILLION THAT WE WOULD HAVE RECEIVED AND WE'LL STILL GET OUR ESSER AMOUNT.BUT THERE'S A NET 10 MILLION GONE.
SO IT'S SUPPLANTING WHAT WE RECEIVE FEDERALLY FROM THE STATE.
THAT WILL HAPPEN THIS YEAR. OK, MR. GLICK. YES. THANK YOU.
LOPEZ'S SUNDAY REPORT THAT TWO OF MY FAVORITE SUBJECTS HVAC AND TOWERS ARE GOING TO COME OUT OF ESSER 2, NOT ESSER 3.
IS THAT CORRECT? AND WHY? YES, SIR SO THROUGH OUR PLANNING AND DISCUSSIONS OF MANY, MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS ACROSS THE DISTRICT AND STAKEHOLDERS, ESSER 3 WITH THE FUNDING NEEDS THAT OCCUR NOW IT GIVES US THREE YEARS TO SPEND THAT MONEY.
ESSER 2 WE ONLY HAVE TWO YEARS TO SPEND THAT MONEY.
AND SINCE WE HAVE ONLY TWO YEARS TO SPEND THAT MONEY, THE IDEA BEING WE ALREADY KNOW WHICH HVAC PROJECTS CAN BE PRE-APPROVED.
WELL, WE BELIEVE THAT CAN BE PRE-APPROVED.
WE WILL SUBMIT THAT TO TEA WITH OUR AND THE DETAILS OF ESSER 2 AS FAR AS THE RETURN SAFE RETURN GUIDEBOOK THAT NURSE K AND DR.
GARRETT DEVELOPED WITH STAKEHOLDER INPUT TO THE SPENDING PLAN IS NOT AS RESTRICTIVE.
AND SO WITH ESSER 2 WE'RE LOOKING AT UTILIZING THAT MONEY FOR THOSE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS FROM LTE CELL TOWERS TO ANY HVAC WORK THAT MAY BE DONE FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END OF THAT PROCESS. SO THERE'S NO REASON OTHER THAN A SHORTER TIME FRAME WORK, THERE'S NO MORE RESTRICTIONS ON ONE AND THE OTHER AND WITH THE ESSER 3 PLAN AND THE STRAIN THAT'S BROUGHT ABOUT ON OUR EMPLOYEES OF WANTING TO DO THE ONE TIME RETENTION PAYMENTS, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE INCORPORATED THAT TO ESSER 3 BECAUSE OF THE DISCUSSIONS THERE IN THAT PROPOSAL.
WHEREAS ESSER 2 WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE TWO LTE TOWERS THIS YEAR WE WANT TO GET THOSE IN, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S WORKING AS IT SHOULD, AND IF THAT IS THE CASE THAT WOULD ALLOW US WITH ESSER 2 TO SPEND THAT MONEY AND GET THAT IN PLACE AND OPERATE.
IF LET'S JUST SAY SOMETHING WERE TO OCCUR WITH ONE LTE CELL TOWERS WHERE WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THAT WAS A GREAT INVESTMENT ANYMORE WE HAVE THAT ABILITY TO SWITCH TO OTHER NEEDS OF THE PLAN TO MAKE THAT WORK.
THANK YOU, SIR. I'M SORRY, CONTINUE.
OK, AND BEFORE I GO OFF THIS SLIDE, JUST TO HIGHLIGHT AGAIN FOR ANYBODY WATCHING THE PERCEPTION BEING THERE'S ALL THIS NEW MONEY IN PUBLIC EDUCATION AS WE PAY MORE IN TAXES.
IT JUST BALANCES OUT WHEN WE PAY MORE THE STATE GIVES US LESS.
ALSO IN THAT MODEL, BECAUSE THE STATE IS THE HOUSE, EVEN IF A DISTRICT DOESN'T HAVE TAV GROWTH THE STATE IS PROJECTING TAV GROWTH ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS.
SO IN THAT MODEL, IF OUR VALUES WERE TO DECLINE, THE STATE AT THAT POINT IS GOING TO SAY, OK, FOR US TO STILL CUT YOU WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE FUNDED YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO RAISE MORE MONEY BECAUSE YOUR VALUES HAVE LOWERED.
THEY REQUIRED TO DECOMPRESS THAT TAX RATE TO GET THE SAME LEVEL OF FUNDING YOU WOULD HAVE RECEIVED IF THERE WAS GROWTH ABOVE TWO AND A HALF PERCENT.
SO THAT M&O TAX RATE IS NOW CONTROLLED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS, WHEN WE SUBMIT OUR VALUES TO THEM. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH ANY DISTRICT THAT HAS DECOMPRESSED.
THAT IS HAPPENING? DID NOT HAPPEN LAST YEAR.
AS WE KNOW IN DALLAS COUNTY THERE ARE GOING TO BE DISTRICTS IN DALLAS COUNTY, THAT DECOMPRESS THIS YEAR DUE TO COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS THAT HAVE MORE COMMERCIAL AND NOT AS MUCH RESIDENTIAL THAN WE DO.
SO POTENTIALLY IF THEY HAD A DOLLAR TAX RATE, IT COULD BE A DOLLAR FIVE.
IT COULD GO UP. IT COULD GO UP. YES, SIR.
THANK YOU. AND THAT GOING UP, AS WE'VE HEARD MANY TIMES, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT DISTRICT GETS MORE GOLDEN PENNIES OR COPPER PENNIES.
THAT IS TO MAINTAIN THE SAME LEVEL.
IF THEY HAVE FIVE GOLDEN PENNIES, THEY KEEP FIVE GOLDEN PENNIES.
AND THAT'S THE NEW LEVEE DAM LIKE A WATER DAM BASICALLY THAT DAM STAYS THERE.
BUT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ADJUST YOUR TAX RATE TO GET TO THAT WATER LEVEL TO SUPPORT THE FUNDING. SO THE COPPER PENNIES ARE ADJUSTED.
YEAH YOU DO NOT SEE ANY NEW COPPER PENNIES.
YOU STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE SAME NUMBER OF COPPER PENNIES SO IF A DISTRICT WERE TO PASS A TRE IF THEIR WEIGHT WERE TO BE DECOMPRESSED THEY'RE STILL GETTING THOSE EIGHT GOLDEN PENNIES AND NINE COPPER PENNIES TOTAL THE DECOMPRESSION DOESN'T RAISE THE TOTAL MAX DOES IT? NO, SIR. SO THE MAX STAYS THE SAME.
SO IF YOU'RE AT A DOLLAR WITH 13 PENNIES LEFT AND THEY DECOMPRESS YOU TO A DOLLAR ONE, YOU'VE ONLY GOT 12 PENNIES LEFT.
THAT'S WHAT I'M ASSUMING. NO, YOU WOULD HAVE TO RAISE IT.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE AT OUR TAX RATE IS POINT NINE FIVE ONE THREE, LET'S SAY, WE WERE TO DECOMPRESS NEXT YEAR TO NINETY SEVEN CENTS AT POINT NINE FIVE ONE THREE.
IF THE STATE SAYS YOU HAVE TO DECOMPRESS AND NOW GO TO NINETY SEVEN CENTS, WE'RE STILL AT FIVE GOLDEN PENNIES. OK, THAT'S THE NEW WATER LEVEL.
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BUT WE'RE NOW TAXING AT NINETY SEVEN CENTS VERSUS NINETY FIVE ALL RIGHT. MR. GLICK. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE CHART ON PAGE TWENTY EIGHT, PLEASE.YES, SIR. I THINK AS WE THINK ABOUT WHAT DIRECTION TO GO WITH BE IT THE BOND OR TRE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO THINK WHERE WILL WE FALL ON THIS CHART.
OBVIOUSLY, AS YOU INDICATED, WE'RE THIRD FROM THE BOTTOM NOW, SO.
DOES IT MATTER? EVERY PENNY WE RAISE OURSELVES WHERE WE WANT TO FALL, WHERE WE WANT TO BE TALKED ABOUT, I MEAN, IT'S IMPRESSIVE TO SAY WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, OBVIOUSLY THIRD FROM THE BOTTOM.
BUT IF LET'S SAY WE PICKED UP THE REST OF THE GOLDEN PENNIES AND X NUMBER OF COPPER PENNIES, LET'S SAY A TOTAL OF EIGHT.
SO THAT RAISES US TO ONE THIRTY THREE.
SO THAT WOULD PUT US IN BETWEEN, LET'S SAY, DUNCANVILLE AND FERRIS.
I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHERE FERRIS IS, BUT DUNCANVILLE AND FERRIS KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TABLE. SO NOT THE WORST TAXING ENTITY AND CERTAINLY NOT THE BEST.
AND I THINK MAYBE IN TERMS OF PHILOSOPHY, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT ALSO.
YOU DON'T EVER WANT TO BE I DON'T THINK YOU'D EVER WANT TO BE UP BY DESOTO.
AND WE KNOW WE'RE NEVER GOING TO BE HIGHLAND PARK.
SO WHERE DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE FALLING IF AND WHEN WE DECIDE TO GO FORWARD? THANK YOU, SIR. SO ON THAT CHART ARE THERE ANY OF THESE DISTRICTS THAT YOU KNOW, ARE MAXED OUT? IN REGARDS TO THE TRE.
YES, SIR MOST OF THOSE DISTRICTS THAT HAVE PASSED THE TRE HAVE MAXED OUT THEIR AVAILABLE PENNIES.
IN REGARDS TO THE I&S TAX RATE THERE'S WHAT'S CALLED THE 50 CENT TEST.
SO TO PASS A BOND PROGRAM, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IT.
BUT YOU CANNOT TAX MORE THAN 50 CENTS.
NOW, ONCE IT PASSES AND LET'S SAY SOMETHING CRAZY HAPPENS IN THE MARKET OR THE WORLD, YOU COULD TAX MORE THAN 50 CENTS.
BUT THAT IMPACTS YOUR NEXT BOND PROGRAM.
GLICK'S POINT, THE LAST TIME WE DID A BOND ISSUE, AND WE TRULY RAISED OUR TAX RATE WE WENT FROM SECOND TO JUST BELOW THE MIDPOINT OR HIGHER THAN THE MIDPOINT LETS SAY IN TAX RATE, WHICH WAS A PRETTY BIG MOVE.
BUT REAL QUICKLY AFTER THAT, EVERYBODY ELSE DID THEIR OWN BOND ISSUES AND WE KIND OF RESHUFFLED THE DECK AGAIN.
YES. SO IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS A LOT OF SHUFFLING, BUT IF SOME OF THEM ARE ALREADY MAXED OUT, THEY CAN'T REALLY RESHUFFLE THE DECK CAN THEY? NO. AND SOME OF THESE DISTRICTS YOU SEE HERE DID PASS A BOND PROGRAM IN MAY.
SO THAT I&S TAX RATE WILL BE ADJUSTED FOR THIS COMING AUGUST SINCE THEY JUST PASSED THAT TAX RATE, OR SINCE THEY JUST PASSED THE BOND PROGRAM.
AND SO SOME OF THESE WE WILL SEE INCREASED TAX RATES JUST FROM WHAT WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN MAY OF 2021.
THANK YOU. SO THAT VISUAL, IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT A DOLLAR AND THAT BREAKDOWN OF OUR BUDGET IN MOST SCHOOL DISTRICTS BUDGET, IF WE WERE TO SPLIT IT OUT, YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH OF THAT IS COMMITTED TO PAYROLL AND INVESTED IN PAYROLL.
EDUCATION IS VERY HUMAN INTENSIVE, AND THAT IS VERY COMMON IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
HOW MUCH OF THAT IS [INAUDIBLE] ON NON-PAYROLL AND WITHIN NON PAYROLL A LOT OF THAT IS LOCKED INTO THE UTILITIES BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE TO PAY AIR HEAT GAS AS WE PROGRESS THROUGH THAT YEAR. THOSE BUDGETS COULD NOT BE CHANGED OR REDUCED.
KEY POINTS ON FUNDING AND DRIVERS OF FUNDING IN TEXAS SCHOOL FINANCE, YOU'RE FUNDED ON AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE. SO THE MORE AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE, NOT ENROLLMENT, THE MORE FUNDING YOU GET. IF AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE GOES DOWN, THE LESS AMOUNT OF FUNDING A DISTRICT GETS.
COUPLED WITH THE M&O TAX RATE.
THE HIGHER TAX RATE GUARANTEES MORE FUNDING PER PENNY OF TAX EFFORT.
AND AGAIN, THE ONLY WAY DISTRICTS CAN INCREASE THAT TAX RATE, THERE'S WHAT'S CALLED GOLDEN COPPER PENNIES THAT ARE ALLOWED UNDER THE LAW THAT YOU WILL SEE SHORTLY WHEN MS. MAYO PRESENTS IT, THAT DISTRICTS CAN ONLY ACCESS THEIR VOTER APPROVAL.
AND ONCE VOTERS APPROVE THAT, THAT'S IT.
THERE IS NO NEW MONEY UNDER CURRENT LEGISLATION.
AND SO DISTRICTS ARE LOCKED INTO THAT FUNDING LEVEL UNTIL THE STATE CHANGES LEGISLATION.
AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT THAT MEANS HERE, YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT WAS IN 2017, 2018, 2019 AND 2020, YOU CAN SEE OUR 2021 HOLD HARMLESS LEVEL AND THEN OUR 2021 ACTUAL OF WHERE WE'RE TRENDING.
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AND SO THAT SUPPLANTING ASPECT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER WHEREVER THAT FUNDING LEVEL IS ABOVE OUR GREEN LINE, THAT'S WHERE OUR STATE REVENUE WOULD BE REDUCED AND TO SUPPLANT WITH OUR ESSER 2 FUNDS.ENROLLMENT HISTORY. AGAIN, THIS IS NOT ADA.
WE HAVE SHOWN YOU ADA SLIDES IN ALL OUR PRIOR PRESENTATIONS.
SO WE THOUGHT THIS SLIDE, WE WOULD SHOW YOU OUR ENROLLMENT NUMBERS AS WE PROGRESS THROUGH THE YEAR. AND THESE ARE AS OF THE SNAPSHOT IN OCTOBER WHEN WE SUBMIT DATA TO THE STATE FOR ENROLLMENT.
OUR AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE IS TAKEN DAILY THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR TO THE END OF INTERSESSION. CONSIDERATIONS FOR A TAX RATE ELECTION IN FUTURE YEARS.
NEW LEGISLATION REQUIRES THAT THESE ARE ONLY DONE IN NOVEMBER ON THE UNIFORM ELECTION DATE. THERE ARE LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL ELECTION CYCLES IN NOVEMBER.
WE KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE AN 88TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION THAT DOES COME UP.
WILL THERE BE STATUTE CHANGES AS WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED THIS LAST SESSION WE THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE VIRTUAL SCHOOLS AND FUNDING FOR VIRTUAL SCHOOLS AND THE PRIOR SESSION WE SAW THE BALLOT LANGUAGE GET MORE RESTRICTIVE IN REGARDS TO TRE'S AND TO BONDS.
EFFICIENCY AUDIT AS OF RIGHT NOW, AND WORKING WITH TASB AND THEIR FEEDBACK AND THEIR GUIDANCE TAX RATE ELECTION IN NOVEMBER 2021 AN EFFICIENCY AUDIT IS NOT REQUIRED.
THESE ARE BRAND NEW AS REQUIRED UNDER THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
AND THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC IS WHAT ALLOWED THAT TO NOT BE REQUIRED.
THESE ARE SO NEW THAT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN CONDUCTED BECAUSE THE DISASTER DECLARATION SAID THAT IT'S NOT REQUIRED TO BE CONDUCTED.
SO I CANNOT EVEN GIVE YOU ANY GUIDANCE ON WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AT THIS TIME.
NOW, THERE ARE AUDITORS OUT THERE THAT DO, DO THIS.
BUT IN REGARDS TO WHAT THAT PLAN LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT THAT FEEDBACK LOOKS LIKE, I CANNOT EVEN TELL YOU AT THIS POINT.
NOVEMBER 2022, THE ASSUMPTION BEING THAT IT WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED THEN EITHER BECAUSE WINTER STORM URI WAS ALSO A DISASTER DECLARATION.
AND UNDER CURRENT STATUTE, THAT IS THE CASE.
HOWEVER, WE'VE ALSO SEEN UNDER CURRENT STATUTE, WE HAD DISASTER PENNIES UP UNTIL THIS SESSION. AND WHEN THE STATE SAW THAT WE ALL HAD ACCESS TO DISASTER PENNIES, THE NEW LEGISLATION REMOVED THOSE AND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO ACCESS DISASTER PENNIES ANYMORE.
AND THE TAXABLE ASSESSED VALUATION GROWTH OF COMPRESSION VERSUS DECOMPRESSION.
SO SCENARIO FOR NOVEMBER 2021 STATE OF THE ECONOMY, YOU KNOW, IN EACH ELECTION CYCLE REALLY, DO DISTRICTS GO TO VOTERS WHEN THE ECONOMY IS SUCCESSFUL, OR WHEN THE ECONOMY IS IN A DOWNTURN.
THIS NOVEMBER IS PREDOMINANTLY LOCAL ELECTIONS.
EFFICIENCY AUDIT'S NOT REQUIRED IT GENERATES AN ADDITIONAL 50 MILLION ANNUALLY.
IF WE WERE TO GO AFTER EVERY PENNY, AND THAT'S 50 MILLION MOVING FORWARD UNDER CURRENT LEGISLATION.
IT ALLOWS FOR A PLAN FOR PAY RAISES IN 22, 23, AND 24 AS YOU WILL SEE WHAT THE BUDGET IS IN 22 23 AND 24 WITHOUT A TRE IT DOES ADDRESS ONE TIME EXPENDITURE NEEDS.
AS DISTRICTS HAVE PASSED TRE'S THOSE SURPLUS DOLLARS ARE USED FOR ONE TIME NEEDS.
THEY COULD BE USED FOR RENOVATIONS.
THEY COULD BE USED TO BUY WHITE FLEET.
THEY COULD BE USED TO BUY BUSSES.
AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE USED THOSE FOR THOSE ONE TIME NEEDS AS THEY PROGRESSED.
A POTENTIAL TO INCREASE THE TAX RATE AN ESTIMATED 12 CENTS.
SO THAT TOTAL TAX RATE, WE'RE CURRENTLY HOVERING AROUND A DOLLAR TWENTY FIVE, SIX THREE, IT WOULD GO UP TO A DOLLAR THIRTY EIGHT SIX NINE, WHICH IS STILL LOWER THAN TWO YEARS AGO AT A DOLLAR FORTY TWO UNDER CURRENT ASSUMPTIONS.
TAX RATIFICATION ELECTION FOR 2021.
THERE'S THE NOVEMBER ELECTION DATE.
THERE'S THE DATES THAT WE WOULD FOLLOW BASED OFF THOSE REQUIREMENTS AND LEGISLATION HAS REMOVED ACCESS TO DISASTER PENNIES.
BUT YOU CAN SEE AUGUST 5TH IS THE DEADLINE FOR TEA TO DIRECT SCHOOL DISTRICTS THEIR M&O TAX RATES THEY MUST ADOPT AND DISTRICTS THAT EXCEED THAT HAVE NOT HAD A TRE THAT'S WHERE THE TAX RATE ELECTION WOULD COME IN.
AUGUST 16TH IS THE 78TH, DAY BEFORE THE ELECTION AND THE DEADLINE TO ORDER THAT.
THE PER PENNY IMPACT AND MS. MAYO WILL TALK ABOUT THE DETAILS OF THESE PENNIES SHORTLY.
BUT JUST TO SEE WHAT THAT IS UNDER SCHOOL FUNDING IN TEXAS AND THE IMPACT TO GARLAND ISD, NO MATTER WHAT WE DO AS A DISTRICT, EVERY PENNY LOCALLY GENERATES 2.27 MILLION DOLLARS.
WITHIN THE ALLOWED GOLDEN PENNIES FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS THE STATE SAYS WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU AN ADDITIONAL 4.32 MILLION IF YOU WERE TO EXCEED THAT THRESHOLD AND THE VOTERS TELL YOU YES.
FOR EVERY COPPER PENNY, WE STILL GENERATE TWO POINT TWO, SEVEN MILLION.
THE STATE SAYS, OK, YOU'VE ALREADY ACCESSED ALL OF YOUR GOLDEN PENNIES.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU NEAR AS MUCH TO OPERATE WITH WE ARE ONLY GOING TO GIVE YOU A MILLION FOR EVERY ONE OF THOSE COPPER PENNIES, WHICH THERE ARE NINE AVAILABLE.
HERE DR. RINGO, REMIND ME HOW MANY GOLDEN PENNIES AND COPPER PENNIES WE HAVE AVAILABLE TODAY. OH NEXT SLIDE.
RIGHT THERE NEXT SLIDE. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
QUESTION, OK. [LAUGHTER] SO THREE AND 9.
SO, AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR PROJECTED TAX RATE NEXT YEAR, THAT BEING COMPRESSED UNDER THREE PERCENT TAV GROWTH COMPRESSES TO POINT NINE FOUR SIX NINE.
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ANYTHING ABOVE THAT IF WE MEET THE THREE PERCENT PROJECTION IS GOING TO REQUIRE TAX RATE ELECTION APPROVED BY THE VOTERS.AND SO THERE'S THREE MORE GOLDEN PENNIES AND NINE MORE COPPER PENNIES.
AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT THAT TAX RATE IS WITH EVERY SINGLE PENNY.
AND THAT ASSUMES A TAXABLE ASSESSED VALUATION GROWTH OF THREE PERCENT.
WE WON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL JULY 25TH.
AND THEN WE SUBMIT OUR NUMBERS TO TEA.
TEA IS GOING TO VALIDATE LAST YEAR'S GROWTH AND THIS YEAR'S GROWTH TOGETHER IN THEIR MODEL. AND THEY'RE GOING TO THEN DIRECT ME AND MS. MAYO AND MS. COOPER WHAT OUR M&O TAX RATE WE BRING BACK TO YOU TO ADOPT IS.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL TURN OVER MS. MAYO. THANK YOU, DR.
RINGO. GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT MILLER, BOARD OF TRUSTEES, DR.
LOPEZ. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PREVIOUS SLIDE SHOW THAT WE DO HAVE, 12 AVAILABLE PENNIES, THREE GOLD, NINE COPPER.
SO THIS IS THE PER PENNY IMPACT BASED ON CURRENT EXPECTATIONS.
THIS IS THE SAME SLIDE THAT WE PRESENTED BEFORE, WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS.
SO TAKING ALL PENNIES, ALL 12 PENNIES WILL GIVE US A POSSIBLE IMPACT OF ABOUT 50 MILLION DOLLARS. THIS IS A PER PENNY IMPACT ON A TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR HOME, ONE HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND AFTER THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.
AND THEN THIS IS EFFECT ON THE GENERAL FUND.
THIS IS ASSUMING A THOUSAND LOSS IN ADA.
THIS DOES INCLUDE THE TWO PERCENT RAISE THAT THE BOARD APPROVED.
THIS INCLUDES ABOUT A SEVEN POINT EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS IN PAYROLL REDUCTIONS THAT WE PRESENTED IN OUR LAST BUDGET WORKSHOPS.
AND ALL THE RECOMMENDATION ITEMS ARE PRESENTED HERE.
SO THIS IS THE BUDGET THAT WE SHARED WITH YOU IN FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE AND THAT WE'LL SHARE WITH YOU TOMORROW NIGHT AND THE IMPACT OF A POSSIBLE TRE ON THAT BUDGET.
SO WITHOUT THE TRE, IT'S ABOUT A 29 MILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT AND THEN WITH THE TRE IT IS ABOUT A 20 MILLION DOLLAR EXCESS.
SO PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY OFFSETS THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING, FOR ESSER 3 THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO YOU.
AND ANY SURPLUS, ANY OF THESE SURPLUS DOLLARS COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR ORPHAN BOND PROJECTS. SO NOW WE'LL PRESENT IN THE NOVEMBER 2022 TAX RATE ELECTION SCENARIO.
AND SO THESE DATES ARE ALREADY ON THE STATE OF TEXAS WEBSITE, THAT UNIFORM ELECTION DATE IN NOVEMBER OF 2022 IS NOVEMBER 8TH EFFICIENCY AUDIT UNDER CURRENT GUIDANCE.
AND I SAY CURRENT BECAUSE TYPICALLY, AS WE APPROACH THESE DATES, THEY GO BACK TO THE LEGISLATORS WHO WROTE THESE BILLS AND ASK THEM THEIR INTENT AND THEN THAT INTENT CAN CHANGE GUIDANCE. AND SO CURRENT GUIDANCE IS AN EFFICIENCY AUDIT IS NOT REQUIRED DUE TO WINTER STORM URI.
JULY 25TH CERTIFIED VALUES WERE RELEASED.
YOU CAN SEE THE DEADLINE FOR TEA TO ISSUE OUR COMPRESSED RATE AGAIN THAT YEAR AND THEN AUGUST 22ND, BEING THE 78TH DAY BEFORE THE ELECTION TO ORDER AN ELECTION.
AND WE HAVE TO ADOPT THE TAX RATE PRIOR TO ORDERING THAT ELECTION.
CONSIDERATIONS FOR NOVEMBER 2022.
THE STATE OF THE ECONOMY AT THAT TIME.
WILL IT BE SUCCESSFUL OR IN A DOWNTURN? AND AT WHAT POINT DO WE GO TO THE VOTERS WHEN IT'S SUCCESSFUL OR IN A DOWNTURN? THERE ARE 14 STATE EXECUTIVE OFFICERS UP FOR ELECTION THAT YEAR.
YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THOSE THERE.
PROJECTED DEFICIT GENERAL FUND BUDGET FOR THAT YEAR UNDER CURRENT ASSUMPTIONS IS THIRTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS.
RAISES, IF RAISES ARE IMPLEMENTED THAT YEAR, IT DOES INCREASE THAT DEFICIT BUDGET PICTURE . EFFICIENCY AUDIT NOT REQUIRED.
BOND PROGRAM IN MAY OF 2022 AND GENERAL FUND BUDGET SUPPORTS NEW FACILITIES, MEANING IF THERE IS A BOND PROGRAM THAT HAS NEW FACILITIES, THERE'S GOING TO BE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS NEEDED. WHEN I SAY NEW, NOT REPLACEMENT FACILITIES, BUT MORE ALONG THE LINES IF THERE IS A NEW FACILITY, I'LL USE THE EXAMPLE OF AN AG CENTER IF THAT WERE TO EXPAND, THERE'S GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS NEEDED ON THE M&O SIDE TO MAINTAIN IT ONCE IT IS OPERATIONAL. POTENTIAL TAX INCREASE.
THE TAX RATE WITH THAT COMPRESSION OF THAT THREE PERCENT GROWTH COULD BE ROUGHLY AROUND 12 CENTS INCREASE IN TOTAL TAX RATE IF WE WERE TO GO AFTER ALL THE PENNIES AVAILABLE AND MAINTAIN THAT SAME LEVEL OF TAX RATE WITH THE BOND PROGRAM.
SO FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF CONSIDERATIONS, WE'RE GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU A SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON OF THE BUDGET WITH AND WITHOUT THE TRE.
SO IN THIS EXAMPLE, IT'S TWENTY TWO.
TWENTY THREE. THIS IS ALSO OUR FUTURE YEAR PROJECTIONS THAT WE'VE SHARED WITH YOU IN PRIOR WORKSHOPS WITHOUT THE TRE, AS DR.
RINGO STATED IN OUR ASSUMPTIONS IT'S ABOUT A THIRTY FIVE MILLION DOLLAR LOSS.
AND WITH THE TRE, IT'S A POSSIBLE INCREASE OF 15 OR AN EXCESS OF 15 MILLION DOLLARS.
AND THIS IS BASED ON CURRENT ASSUMPTIONS AND DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR ANY FUTURE COMPRESSION.
AND WE DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT JUST LIKE THE PRIOR SECLUDED HERE, BUT AS WE TALKED
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ABOUT IN PRIOR WORKSHOPS, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR TIER TWO PROGRAM CUTS AS WE MOVE INTO THE FUTURE WITHOUT A TRE, WE WILL BEGIN CONSIDERING THOSE TIER TWO PROGRAM CUTS.AND THEY DO IMPACT OUR DISTRICT PROGRAMS. MR. BEACH. DOES THAT BUDGET HAVE ANY PAY RAISES IN IT? NO, SIR. OKAY.
THIS BUDGET, THE ONLY THING THAT HAS BEEN ADDED TO THIS BUDGET ARE WHAT WE KNOW NOW IN REGARDS TO, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S SOME ONE TO ONE TECHNOLOGY DEVICES AND IN OUR PRIOR BUDGET WORKSHOPS WE DID BREAK OUT THAT LINE ITEM DETAIL TO SHOW, BUT IT DID NOT INCLUDE RAISES IN THAT ASSUMPTION.
NOVEMBER 2023 TAX RATE ELECTION SCENARIO, SOME OF THESE ARE THE SAME ASSUMPTIONS, WHAT'S THE STATE OF THE ECONOMY GOING TO BE? WE WILL HAVE PASSED THE 88TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION IN THE SPRING OF 2023.
ARE THERE GOING TO BE LAW CHANGES? WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE STATE OF THE NEXT ECONOMY.
IF IT'S DOING WELL, WE TYPICALLY DON'T SEE NEW MONEY FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS AND WE DON'T SEE CUTS.
IF THE ECONOMY IS DOING BAD THAT IS WHEN WE SEE CUTS IN THOSE SESSIONS.
THAT IS GOING TO BE PREDOMINANTLY LOCAL ELECTIONS IN NOVEMBER 2023.
BOND PROGRAM IN MAY OF 2023 AND GENERAL FUND BUDGET TO SUPPORT NEW FACILITIES.
IF THAT'S THE CASE, POTENTIAL TAX RATE INCREASE AT A TAV GROWTH OF TWO PERCENT.
SO THIS IS WHERE WE WOULD HAVE POTENTIAL DECOMPRESSION IF IT'S, MEANING THE M&O TAX RATE WOULD HAVE TO INCREASE TO MAINTAIN THE SAME LEVEL OF FUNDING.
AND THAT TOTAL TAX RATE INCREASE DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT OF DECOMPRESSION, COULD BE 12 TO 17 CENT INCREASE WITH THE TRE IN THAT PROCESS.
AGAIN, THE DEFICIT BUDGET IS WITH NO TRE SURPLUS BUDGET WITH THE TRE IN NOVEMBER OF 2023.
AND THIS REPRESENTS, AGAIN, OUR NOVEMBER 2023 SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON APPROXIMATE DEFICIT BUDGET, ABOUT FORTY NINE MILLION DOLLAR LOSS.
AND THEN AS YOU CAN SEE, EVEN WITH A TRE IN 23, 24, WE ARE BECOMING FLAT AGAIN.
JUST TO REMIND YOU, THERE'S NO ESSER OFFSET.
WE WILL HAVE TO AT THAT POINT BEGIN AS WE DID THE PRIOR YEAR, FURTHER TIER TWO PROGRAM CUTS AND WITHOUT A TRE, THESE WILL IMPACT PROGRAMS. AND THEN THE FINAL YEAR WE PROJECTED OUT TO BECAUSE TEXAS SCHOOL FINANCE, WITH EVERY LEGISLATIVE SESSION DOES CHANGE.
SO NOVEMBER 2024 EVEN THESE ARE WHAT WE KNOW UNDER CURRENT ASSUMPTIONS AND CURRENT LAW.
AND WITH THE TAV GROWTH, AGAIN, WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THE SECOND YEAR AFTER THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION OF A BIENNIUM.
WHAT WILL THAT LOOK LIKE FOR TEXAS PUBLIC SCHOOLS? THERE'S GOING TO BE FEDERAL AND STATE ELECTIONS.
THAT YEAR THERE IS A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN NOVEMBER OF 2024.
EFFICIENCY AUDIT FOR THAT YEAR WILL BE REQUIRED UNLESS THERE'S ANOTHER DISASTER DECLARATION AND OR NO CHANGE IN STATUTE ABOUT THE DISASTER DECLARATION.
IF THERE'S A BOND PROGRAM THAT HAS NEW FACILITIES, THERE'S GOT TO BE MONEY THAT NEEDS TO BE IDENTIFIED TO SUPPORT THOSE NEW FACILITIES.
ON THE M&O SIDE, AGAIN, WITH THIS MODEL, POTENTIAL TO INCREASE THE TAX RATE WITH ALL THE PENNIES AVAILABLE IN THE MODEL FOR A TRE TO GO UP 12 TO 17 CENTS UNDER CURRENT ASSUMPTIONS. AND AS THOSE RAISES SHOW AND WE WILL SHOW YOU ALL THESE YEARS COMBINED TOGETHER, BUT MS. MAYO WILL CLOSE THIS OUT. OK, THANK YOU, DR.
RINGO. SO AGAIN, THERE'S JUST SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON AT 2024.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, AS WE MOVE INTO 2024, WE ARE NOW FALLING INTO DEFICIT BUDGET EVEN WITH A TRE. THIS IS A SUMMARY OF OUR TAX RATE ELECTION.
THIS IS A SLIDE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.
WE HAVE COMPRESSION VERSUS DECOMPRESSION.
DR. RINGO TALKED ABOUT THIS NEW HOUSE BILL THREE AND WE DO EXPECT TO SEE SOME DECOMPRESSION GOING FORWARD AS OUR TAV VALUE GROWTH SLOWS.
WE DISCUSSED OUR NOVEMBER UNIFORM ELECTION DAY, OUR ELECTION CYCLES, ONGOING PAY RAISES ARE NOT INCLUDED IN OUR FUTURE YEARS, SO THOSE WILL NEED TO BE CONSIDERED.
AND THEN WE DISCUSSED A POSSIBLE FUTURE BOND PROGRAM.
OUR TRE IS REQUIRED FOR ANY PENNIES ABOVE FIVE GOLDEN PENNIES THAT WE SEE THERE.
SO WE STILL HAVE THREE GOLDEN PENNIES ON THE TABLE AND NINE COPPER PENNIES.
AND THIS IS THE FULL SUMMARY OF THE BUDGETS THAT WE SPOKE TODAY, JUST SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THEM ALL TOGETHER. OUR 21 22 BUDGET THAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU THAT WE WILL BRING TO YOU TOMORROW NIGHT FOR ADOPTION DOES INCLUDE ALL THE ITEMS THAT WE APPROVE, THE RAISE TEACHER INCENTIVE ALLOTMENT AND THE PAYROLL REDUCTIONS.
AND THEN THOSE DO CARRY THROUGH INTO THE FUTURE YEARS.
AND THESE ARE THE BOTTOM LINES, I'LL SUMMARIZE, THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT IN DETAIL EARLIER TODAY. SO OUR NEXT STEPS IS REVIEWING BOND PROGRAM CAPACITY, GENERAL FUND M&O TAX RATE SCENARIOS FOR FUTURE YEARS, AND THEN OUR NEXT STEPS ON HOW WE'LL PROCEED FORWARD.
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ANY QUESTIONS.THERE WILL BE A FEW? WE'RE GOING TO START WITH MR. JOHNSON. THANK YOU.
YOU HAVE PROJECTED THAT EVEN WITH TRE'S WE WILL RETURN TO DEFICIT BUDGETS AT SOME POINT, BUT YOU HAVEN'T FACTORED IN ANY PAY RAISES.
WHAT IS GENERATING THE INCREASE IN SPENDING IF WE DON'T HAVE INCREASE IN PAYROLL? YOU CAN SEE ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE HERE IS ROUGHLY ONE BEING ON THE NON PAYROLL SIDE.
WE HAVE FOR LIKE 23 24 THERE'S ITEMS OF ROUGHLY 10 MILLION THAT YEAR BECAUSE OF THE ONE TO ONE PROGRAM WE'RE IN IN ORDER TO REPLACE DEVICES FOR TEACHERS AND OR STUDENTS.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ROUGHLY TWO POINT FOUR MILLION BUILT IN THE BUDGET.
BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE GONE FULL DISTRICT WIDE UNDER COVID THAT EXPANSION TO MAINTAIN THE ONE TO ONE THAT INCREASE COST COMES WITH IT.
IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT MOST OF THAT IS BECAUSE OF DECREASED REVENUE DUE TO ENROLLMENT? YES, SIR. ON THE FLIP SIDE OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WE'RE SHOWING AS THE TREND HAS BEEN A 500 ADA DECLINE BEYOND 22 23 EACH YEAR.
SO AS WE LOSE ADA OUR REVENUE ALSO GOES DOWN.
WE'RE ASSUMING WE'RE GAINING NOTHING FROM OPEN ENROLLMENT IN THIS.
YES, SIR. UNTIL WE SEE NUMBERS AND AS YOU WILL SEE WITH MOST BUDGET PERSONNEL, UNTIL WE SEE A TREND IN CHANGES.
I GET IT. I GET IT, YOU'RE ALWAYS MASSIVELY CONSERVATIVE AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
BUT WHEN COMING TO POLICY, WE HAVE TO ASSUME THAT WE GET SOMETHING OUT OF OPEN ENROLLMENT. WE HAVE TO ASSUME THAT WE'LL GET SOMETHING.
AND WE ALSO HAVE TO ASSUME WE'RE GOING TO MAKE PAY RAISES TOO.
I WILL SAY MR. JOHNSON, WE ARE ACCOUNTING FOR INCREASE TO THE INTERSESSION, WHICH DOES INCREASE OUR REVENUE FOR ADSY.
AND IS THE DEMOGRAPHER REPORT FACTORING INTO THIS? BECAUSE OUR DEMOGRAPHER REPORT WE SAW SHOWED THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY START TO UPTICK BACK AGAIN IN ENROLLMENT AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS UNDER HIS HIGH SCENARIO, HE SHOWED AN UPTICK.
WITH THE COVID IMPACT OF A THOUSAND LESS.
AND AS HE NOTED WHEN HE WAS HERE TO DO HIS WINTER UPDATE, HE SAID WITH THE COVID IMPACT, IT'S TOTALLY UNKNOWN WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
TWO OR THREE YEARS OUT, BUT HE HAD A LOW MODEL, A MODERATE MODEL AND A HIGH MODEL, THE TREND LINE WE'RE SHOWING IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHERE WE HAVE TRULY BEEN TRENDING AS A DISTRICT OF LOSING FIVE, ROUGHLY 500 TO 700 ADA PER YEAR.
NEXT YEAR, WE'RE SHOWING A THOUSAND LOSS OF ADA WHICH WE'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED UNTIL COVID HIT US BUT BECAUSE OF THE HOLD HARMLESS IMPACT IF WE DID NOT PROJECT THAT, WE WOULD BE POTENTIALLY OVER PROJECTING OUR REVENUE AND HAVE TO COME BACK AND LOWER OUR REVENUE PROJECTION NEXT YEAR. ALL RIGHT, THANKS.
THANK YOU. ON THE CHART YOU HAVE ON THE SCREEN.
SO. IF WE DON'T DO A TRE IN TWENTY TWO, TWENTY THREE, RIGHT? THEN. WE'RE AT A FUND BALANCE OF 175.
AND MR. GLICK, AS YOU POINT OUT VERY WELL, WE DO NOT SPEND EVERY DOLLAR, SO WE ROUGHLY WILL SAVE TWO TO FOUR PERCENT OF OUR PAYROLL.
THIS YEAR IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE LARGEST YEARS OF THE PAYROLL SAVES WE'VE HAD BECAUSE OF THE IMPLEMENTATION THAT WE DID THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE YEAR WITH THE BUDGET SHORTFALL. AND THEN WE NEVER SPENT ONE PERCENT OF PAYROLL DOLLARS.
WHAT WE ALSO NOTED ON THE PRIOR SLIDES, THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY OF THE ESSER SUPPLANTING. SO ROUGHLY, WE EXPECT PROBABLY 10 MILLION, ROUGHLY 10 MILLION TO SUPPLANT GENERAL FUND OPERATIONS FOR THE LIFE OF THE ESSER GRANT.
SO IN 22 23 THAT WOULD LOWER THAT TO TWENTY FOUR MILLION.
AND IF WE WERE TO HAVE AN EIGHT MILLION DOLLAR PAYROLL SAVE, WE'RE NOW DOWN TO 16 MILLION AND THEN ROUGHLY TWO TO FIVE MILLION IN NON PAYROLL, WE WOULD HAVE A DEFICIT BUDGET OF ROUGHLY 10 MILLION DOLLARS.
OK, SO LET'S SAY WE DIDN'T DO THE TRE AND WE'RE THEN PROJECTING IN 23 24 WITHOUT A TRE 126.
BUT IF WE DID THE TRE, THIS IS I GUESS WHERE MY CONFUSION IS COMING IN.
WHY IS THAT NUMBER NOT 50 MILLION HIGHER RATHER THAN A HUNDRED MILLION HIGHER? THAT'S MY CONFUSION. YOU SEE SO IT LOOKS TO ME THAT IF WE DID A TRE IN 23, 24 AND PICKED UP ABOUT 50 MILLION, THEN WE SHOULD BE ABOUT ONE SEVENTY FIVE.
NO. I DON'T KNOW IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT 23 24, WE
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HAVE ADDED ROUGHLY 11 MILLION TO THE EXPENDITURE BUDGET DUE TO ONE SUSTAINING ONE TO ONE OPERATIONS. SO ON THE EXPENSE SIDE, IT'S GONE UP 11 MILLION AND THEN FROM 21 22 TO 2020 OR TO THAT YEAR, WE'VE LOST ROUGHLY TWENTY THREE HUNDRED IN THE ADA.SO THERE'S AN OFFSET OF REVENUE GOING DOWN AND THEN THE EXPENDITURE BUDGET GOING UP.
IF I'M UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY.
NO, WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF WE DELAY A TRE AND KEEP DELAYING IT, TRE IS STILL GOING TO BE WORTH ABOUT 50 MILLION.
YES, SIR. SO YOU SHOW LET'S SAY LET'S GO TO THE FINAL COLUMN.
YOU SHOW SIXTY TWO MILLION AS A FUND BALANCE WITHOUT AND 212 WITH.
THAT DOESN'T QUITE MAKE SENSE.
IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE YOU'RE CARRYING THAT OVER WITHOUT DOING IT.
SO. YES, SIR, WHAT WE'VE DONE ON THOSE MODELS AND IT'S A GREAT POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
SO TWENTY FOUR TWENTY FIVE THAT'S SHOWING WE HAVE NEVER DONE A TRE TILL THAT YEAR.
AND WE HAVE SPENT EVERY DOLLAR IN REGARDS TO THAT FINAL COLUMN OF DOING THAT TRE.
AND YES, SIR I SEE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE ADDING THE 50 MILLION AND WE REALLY DON'T HAVE IT IN THOSE EARLIER YEARS. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. YES, SIR, THAT'S LIKE, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE IT IN THOSE EARLIER YEARS, YES SIR.
SO THE LONGER WE WAIT, OBVIOUSLY, THE WORSE IT'S GOING TO GET.
SO IT'S NOT AS IF WE DID A TRE IN 24 25 AND WE'D HAVE A TWO HUNDRED TWELVE MILLION DOLLAR FUND BALANCE. THAT'S CORRECT.
IT'D BE MUCH, MUCH LOWER. WHEN WE LOOKED AT THESE YEARS WE, IT WAS LOOKING AT EACH YEAR AS A STANDALONE YEAR. AND SO THAT'S WHY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE COLUMNS, IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE IF YOU GO FROM 23 24, TWENTY FOUR TWENTY FIVE WITH THE TRE ASPECT.
THANK YOU SIR. WE TRIED TO IDENTIFY IT BY A STANDALONE YEAR FOR THAT.
AND THEN ON THE NO TRE WE CARRIED THAT FORWARD YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR TO SAY IF WE NEVER HAD THE TRE. GOOD THANK YOU SIR.
WHAT IN LOOKING AT THIS CHART AND THIS IS MY FAVORITE CHART OF ALL OF THEM, EVEN BETTER THAN THE ONE WITH ALL THE PENNIES ON IT.
I'M THINKING BIGGER THAN EVEN TRE'S AND STUFF.
I MEAN, EVEN WITH TRE'S, WE GET TO A POINT WHERE EXHAUST OUR REVENUE AND THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T EVEN IMPACTED YET.
WITH RESPECT TO RAISES, IT APPEARS TO ME THAT OUR PAYROLL COST AS A PERCENT OF OUR BUDGET. I HAVEN'T SEEN A WAY TO EFFECTIVELY HALT THAT INCREASE EVERYTHING AND JUST KEEP IT. EVENTUALLY, THE LINES ARE GOING TO CROSS AND PAYROLL IS GOING TO BE ONE PERCENT OF OUR BUDGET. EVEN IF WE DO A TRE IT LOOKS LIKE THREE OR FOUR YEARS FROM NOW PAYROLL IS GOING TO BE EQUAL TO OUR ENTIRE REVENUE.
AND SO WHAT'S THE BIGGER PICTURE? BECAUSE I HATE WRITING CHECKS I CAN'T CASH, YOU KNOW.
SO WHAT KIND OF THOUGHTS DO WE HAVE BIGGER THAN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE YEARS? DR. LOPEZ. WELL, I'M GOING TO QUOTE MY BOARD PRESIDENT.
WE'VE GOT TO RIGHT SIZE THE DISTRICT AND IT'S ALWAYS UNCOMFORTABLE.
AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH OUR FIRST PHASE RIGHT NOW AND WE'RE NOT EVEN BEING AGGRESSIVE IN IT. TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST WITH YOU.
AND WE HAD TARGETS THAT WE PUT ON AND WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER A TWO YEAR PROCESS TO GET TO THOSE TARGETS. AND SOME PEOPLE ARE WONDERING WHAT'S GOING ON.
WELL, WE'VE GOT TO HOLD PEOPLE NOW ACCOUNTABLE TO THE CERTIFICATIONS, WE GOT TO HAVE NO FILL ZONES. WE WERE HOLDING ON TO EVERYTHING WE COULD FOR AS LONG AS WE POSSIBLY COULD.
AND WE WOULD LOVE TO KEEP EVERY PERSON IN OUR SCHOOLS.
AND SO IN THE CORE AREAS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WE HAVE TO MASTER SCHEDULE CORRECTLY.
BUT IF YOU LOOK IN FOUR YEARS TIME AND YOU ADD UP ALL THOSE NUMBERS, WE CAN'T PROCEED UNLESS WE DECREASE IN PERSONNEL.
AND IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN ALL TEACHERS IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE.
BECAUSE IT'S OBVIOUS IF EIGHTY FOUR PENNIES OUT OF EVERY DOLLAR GOES TO PAYROLL, YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY CUT 16 CENTS ENOUGH.
RIGHT, TO GET YOU WHERE YOUR GOAL NEEDS TO BE.
I'M ASKING IN ADDITION TO THAT, FORESIGHT OF IF WE'RE A FORTY EIGHT THOUSAND FORTY NINE THOUSAND STUDENT DISTRICT, WHAT DOES A RIGHT SIZED DISTRICT MEAN? WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? CONSOLIDATIONS, CLOSURES, IS IT CLOSER TO EIGHTY FOUR PERCENT.
IF YOU'VE NOTICED IF YOU NOTICED OUR PROJECTION FOR NEXT YEAR? WE'VE MADE SOME ATTRITION RATES WITH THE GOAL TO BE AT 84 PERCENT AGAIN NEXT YEAR WITH
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THE INCOME THAT WE'RE HAVING.SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO THAT EIGHTY FOUR PERCENT.
NOW, IDEALLY, LET'S JUST SAY IDEALLY, WE DIDN'T HAVE A REDUCTION IN STUDENTS THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A DECADE.
SO THIS ISN'T LIKE IT JUST HAPPENED TWO YEARS AGO.
THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE 2011.
THAT'S THE FIRST DECREASE WE HIT.
DR. LOPEZ I JUST THREW THAT SLIDE UP THERE FOR YOU.
OK, SORRY. MY BAD. SO NINE, SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS.
SORRY MY BAD. GET CLARIFICATION.
AND IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN SLIGHT BUT THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED SEEING THE TIP.
OK, AND YOU'LL SEE IT FLUCTUATE HERE AND THERE.
BUT THE THING IS, IS WHEN WE PRESENT IT FOR NEXT YEAR WE'RE AT EIGHTY FOUR PERCENT.
NOW IF WE HAD LET'S SAY AN INCREASE FROM OUR PROJECTIONS THEN OUR PAYROLL MIGHT BE EIGHTY TWO PERCENT. EIGHTY PERCENT, JUST DEPENDING ON ON THE INCREASE THAT WE HAVE.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE REALLY HOPING TO FIND THE STUDENTS THAT WE LOST DURING COVID.
YOU COULD SEE IN THE PAPERS THERE'S DIRE HITS FROM OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
SO I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THIS.
WE'RE PROJECTING LOSING MAYBE.
WHAT DID WE PUT A THOUSAND STUDENTS THIS YEAR? YES, SIR. OK, SO IN OUR PROJECTIONS WITH THE THOUSAND STUDENTS, WE HAVE NEIGHBORING DISTRICTS THAT ARE PROJECTING DOUBLE THAT, DOUBLE WHAT WE'RE DOING.
THAT AREN'T EVEN SOME OF THEM ARE WAY SMALLER.
SO THE PERCENTAGE OF STUDENTS IS VARYING FROM AREA TO AREA.
AND SO ALTHOUGH IT SEEMS LIKE A BIG HIT FOR US, THE REASON WHY WE'RE GETTING MORE AGGRESSIVE IS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN AGGRESSIVE IN ALL THOSE YEARS PRIOR TO THIS.
AND WE HAVE TO BALANCE THINGS NOW.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BE TARGETING EIGHTY FOUR TO EIGHTY.
SO WITHIN THOSE YEARS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE US STILL TRIMMING DOWN UNLESS WE GET SOME SORT OF REVERSAL OR STABILIZATION.
AND MY FINAL QUESTION ON THIS MAY BE FINAL WITH RESPECT TO THE ESSER MONEY AND THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING. IS THERE ANY THING ABOUT THAT MONEY AND THE PROGRAMS THAT IT SUPPORTS OR THE INITIATIVES THAT, THAT WILL FUND THAT WILL THEN HAVE TO BE CARRIED OVER AND ADDED TO SUBSEQUENT YEAR BUDGETS? NO, SIR. WHAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH OUR TEAMS ON IS THAT IT IS NOT GOING TO BE BUDGET ADDS.
SO IT'S GOING TO IT'S TRULY FOR THE LEARNING LOSS AND THOSE LEARNING NEEDS THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY NOW AND DO THOSE EXTRA MEASURES THAT OUR CURRICULUM TEAMS HAVE DEVELOPED IN THOSE ONE TIME EXPENDITURE NEEDS OF GETTING KIDS CAUGHT BACK UP, COUPLED WITH SUPPLANTING OF SOME OF THOSE AVAILABLE EXPENDITURES IN THE GENERAL FUND.
FOR EXAMPLE, INTERSESSION, IT DOES NOTE THAT 20 PERCENT OF THOSE DOLLARS MUST BE USED FOR EVIDENCE BASED INTERVENTIONS.
AND A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE, GIVEN BY TEA, IS SUMMER SCHOOL OR INTERSESSION.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE A DISTRICT CAN SUPPLANT SOME OF THEIR BUDGETARY NEEDS TO SUPPORT THAT WITH ESSER FUNDS. THEREFORE, IT WOULD LOWER OUR GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURE BUDGET AND ALLOW US TO USE ESSER FUNDS. BUT THOSE DOLLARS ARE ALREADY BUILT INTO OUR BUDGET, SO IT'S NOT GOING TO INCREASE THAT IN FUTURE YEARS.
OK, SO WHAT I'VE HEARD YOU SAY IS THAT THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE TRULY SUPPORTED BY ESSER WILL WHEN THE MONEY TWILIGHTS, THEY WILL ALSO AND THAT PROGRAM WILL NOT BE ONE THAT WE WAKE UP AND SUDDENLY WE HAVE TO CONTINUE AND WE HAVE TO FIND MORE MONEY TO CONTINUE IT.
YES SIR. AND IN FACT, IN TOMORROW'S PRESENTATION, INFORMATION ITEM ON ESSER YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ME STATE AS PART OF THE ASSURANCES THAT ARE REQUIRED THAT TO HERE IT IS GOING TO BE ONE TIME USES AND THOSE FUNDS WILL NO LONGER BE AVAILABLE.
AND I WILL REITERATE WITH THAT IT WILL NOT IMPACT OUR GENERAL FUND UNDER OUR CURRENT PLANNING, OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET IN FUTURE YEARS.
AND HOW DOES THAT IMPACT A STAFF THAT IS GOING TO BE PART OF THIS RECOVERY? IS THERE CONCERNS.
SO AS OF NOW, IT'S NOT FUNDING NEW POSITIONS, IT'S FUNDING SUPPLEMENTAL PAY FOR INTERSESSION TUTORIALS.
SO INSTEAD OF HITTING THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET WHERE THOSE DOLLARS ARE EXPENSED, IT'S GOING TO HIT THE ESSER BUDGET AND ITS REPAYMENT.
WE WILL SPEND THOSE DOLLARS TO SHOW TEA WE SPENT THAT MONEY.
WE GET THAT MONEY BACK, BUT IT'S ALL TRACKED WITHIN THAT FUND.
AND SO THERE'S NOT A POSITION.
FOR EXAMPLE, THERE ARE GRANT FUNDED POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE TIED TO TITLE POSITIONS. THEIR CONTRACT IS TIED TO THOSE DOLLARS BEING AVAILABLE.
AT THIS TIME WE DO NOT HAVE POSITIONS BEING PROPOSED THAT ARE FUNDED OUT OF ESSER.
AND TO HIGHLIGHT MR. MILLER ONE MORE COMMENT.
YES. THAT DR. LOPEZ SPOKE TO EARLIER THE HISTORY OF TEXAS SCHOOL FINANCE IS WHEN MOST DISTRICTS HIT THAT REVENUE CAP IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT'S WHEN THE LEGISLATURE WILL ADDRESS ADDING MORE MONEY TO THE BUDGET.
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SO AS YOU NOTED EARLIER, A LOT OF DISTRICTS HIT THAT REVENUE CAP YEARS AGO AND HAVE PASSED TRE'S.THEY'RE ALREADY AT THAT REVENUE CAP AGAIN AND THEY HAVE NO ACCESS TO A TRE.
AND WE SEE AND THERE ARE DISTRICTS IN DALLAS COUNTY THAT HAVE 90 PERCENT OF THEIR BUDGET COMMITTED TO PAYROLL, BUT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH AS HIGH AS YOU CAN GO BY THE TIME YOU FACTOR IN UTILITIES AND GIVING SOME MONEY FOR NON PAYROLL USE AND I WAS GOING TO MAKE THAT POINT.
BUT, TYING ALL OF THAT IN IS THE FACT THAT GARLAND STILL HAS 13 CENTS.
YES, SIR. WE STILL HAVE 12 CENTS.
WITH THREE GOLDEN PENNIES, 9 COPPER PENNIES, WE HAVE 12 CENTS.
WE'VE NEVER MAXED OUT OUR TAX EFFORT EVER.
NO. AND THE DISTRICT HAS BEEN RUN.
AND I'M NOT TAKING CREDIT FOR IT BECAUSE I WASN'T HERE, BUT THE DISTRICT HAS BEEN RUN IN A VERY EFFICIENT WAY FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
AND IT'S STILL A ROBUST DISTRICT OFFERING OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL KIDS.
SO AND NOT PAINTING A DIRE PICTURE HERE.
AND JUST AS YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO HAVE A WAY TO CASH A CHECK WHEN I WRITE IT.
AND I HATE HAVING NEGATIVE BUDGETS, EVEN THOUGH WE ALWAYS FIND WAYS TO BREAK EVEN.
BUT I DON'T SEE THAT MAGIC BEING ABLE TO HAPPEN IF WE'RE LOOKING AT 40 AND 50 MILLION DOLLAR DEFICITS, WE WILL THEN BE DIGGING INTO OUR GENERAL FUND AND WE ONLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
AND SO I'M ASSUMING AT SOME POINT THE STATE WILL COME UP WITH SOME OTHER IDEA FOR SCHOOL FUNDING THAT WILL ALLOW US TO KEEP OFFERING TO THE STUDENTS WHAT WE NEED.
AND I'M SORRY, MR. BEACH IT'S YOUR TURN.
I WAS JUST GOING YOU PROBABLY ANSWERED MY QUESTION A FEW MINUTES AGO.
SO ANY TITLE, MONEY OR GRANT MONEY IS NOT SHOWN IN THESE BUDGETS? NO, SIR. THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET, THE BOARD ADOPTS AND APPROVE BECAUSE THAT'S OUR GENERAL FUND DOLLARS, IS WHERE IT GENERATES FROM OUR LOCAL TAXPAYERS AND THE STATE FUNDING SIDE TITLE BUDGETS. WE PRESENTED IT TO THE BOARD, HAS THAT INFORMATION ITEM TO SHOW HOW THOSE FUNDS ARE ALLOCATED AND SPENT, BUT THEY ARE NOT REFLECTED IN THIS BUDGET.
ANY GRANT MONEY THAT WE DO RECEIVE THE STATE, CAN'T TOUCH THAT.
IS THAT CORRECT? OUTSIDE OF ESSER THAT IS CORRECT.
WITH ESSER ONE AND ESSER 2 THE STATE, THE FEDERAL PROVISIONS DID NOT PROHIBIT THAT, AND AS WE SAW WITH ESSER ONE, THEY SUPPLANTED DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR, WHICH WAS ROUGHLY ONE POINT FIVE BILLION THAT CAME IN FROM THE FEDS.
THE STATE CUT THE PUBLIC EDUCATION BUDGET BY ONE POINT FIVE BILLION.
THE STATE BASICALLY BENEFITED BY THAT AMOUNT.
DOES IT WORK THE SAME WAY WITH FOUNDATION MONEY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TOO.
NO THE FOUNDATION MONEY IS OUR OWN.
IT'S LIKE A NONPROFIT 501, I BELIEVE A 501 C3 AND THAT BOARD ELECTS HOW TO SPEND THOSE DOLLARS. THE STATE THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR SCHOOL FUNDING ASPECT.
NOW WE DO REPORT OUR TITLE FUNDS ARE AUDITED AND THERE ARE YEARLY FINANCIALS AND THOSE ARE ACTUALLY MORE HEAVILY REGULATED THAN OUR GENERAL FUND DOLLARS BECAUSE OF ALL THE FEDERAL PROCUREMENT REQUIREMENTS THAT COME WITH THOSE.
MS. STANLEY, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT IN THE LAST ONE, WAS IT 10 MILLION FOR REPLACEMENT OF THE ONE TO ONE DEVICES? YES, MA'AM. SO WE ROLLED OUT THE ONE TO ONE DEVICES BECAUSE OF COVID.
SO ARE WE NOT GOING TO ROLL THEM BACK IN WHEN WE'RE NO LONGER DOING THE VIRTUAL OR FACE TO FACE? MY UNDERSTANDING UNDER CURRENT PLANNING FOR FUTURE FISCAL YEARS IS THAT WE ARE MAINTAINING ONE TO ONE DEVICES FOR STUDENTS.
AND SO WE REFLECT THAT IN THE BUDGET.
AND I CAN HIGHLIGHT THIS 10 MILLION IN 23 24 THAT IS BEING REVIEWED WITH ESSER TWO.
SO AS I NOTED PRIOR, THERE MAY BE SOME EXPENDITURES WITH OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET THAT WE IDENTIFY WITHIN ESSER TWO, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SUPPLANT THOSE DOLLARS AS A QUALIFIED EXPENSE AND HELP FURTHER REDUCE THAT DEFICIT BUDGET PICTURE FOR THAT YEAR.
BUT WE'RE SHOWING THOSE DOLLARS IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE AS LONG AS THAT PLAN IS IN PLACE, THAT NEED WILL BE IN THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET IN FUTURE FISCAL YEARS.
WE DON'T WANT TO REDUCE THE GENERAL FUND PICTURE AND NOT GIVE THAT ACTUAL PICTURE OF WHAT THE GENERAL FUND IS ACTUALLY BEING RELIED UPON FOR.
WHAT DO WE WHY ARE WE PROJECTING A ONE TO ONE USAGE OF THE DEVICES GOING FORWARD? JUST CURIOUS.
MR. MILLER. YES. YES. YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD? YEAH. WE'VE BEEN ON A ONE TO ONE PLAN FOR ABOUT FOUR TO FIVE YEARS.
WE HAD ALREADY ROLLED OUT TO THE HIGH SCHOOL.
AND THEN WE ROLLED OUT MIDDLE SCHOOL.
AND WHEN COVID HIT, WE WERE ALREADY IN THE LAST PHASE, THE ROLL OUT TO ELEMENTARY'S.
BUT WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE USING THESE DEVICES FOR IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT.
I WOULD ASK YOU TO ASK THE PRESIDENT TO PUT THAT ON AS AN AGENDA ITEM AND THEN YOU CAN
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GET A DETAIL DEAL OF WHAT THE INTENT WAS FOR BASICALLY ONE TO ONE.THE ONLY THING THAT WE ARE ADDING NEW NOW THAT WASN'T IN THE INITIAL ONE TO ONE WAS THE TOWERS FOR THE HOT SPOTS.
AND SO I THINK ONCE WE COULD GET A DETAILED REPORT THAT SAYS HOW WE STARTED WHAT IT WAS FOR, AND BACK THEN WE SAW THE DIFFERENT SOFTWARE'S THAT WERE GOING TO BE USED FOR VARIOUS LEARNING, JUST LEARNING AND TEACHING IN THE CLASSROOM.
ALSO LEARNING RECOVERY, BUT ALL OF THAT.
SO WE WERE PRETTY MUCH WHAT WOULD YOU SAY, MATT? HOW MUCH WE WERE ALREADY IN THE DISTRICT, THAT DEVICES WERE ALREADY ROLLED OUT.
IT WAS PART OF OUR STRATEGIC INITIATIVE.
YEAH BUT HOW MUCH WHEN COVID HIT, WHERE WE 60 PERCENT OR 75 PERCENT ROLLED OUT OF EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD. YEAH, WE HAD CHROMEBOOKS IN CLASSROOMS IN THE ELEMENTARY ALREADY.
WE WEREN'T ONE TO ONE WHERE EVERY KID GOT A DEVICE OR IF THE TEACHER SAID EVERY KID COULD GRAB A DEVICE. WE WEREN'T AT THAT LEVEL.
NOW WE ARE. WE ARE PK TO 12 WHERE EVERY KID GOES AND GRABS A DEVICE.
BUT TO ADD FOR THE INITIATIVE ON LEARNING, ALL OF OUR INSTRUCTIONAL SOFTWARE IS NOW ONLINE, MOST OF IT ALL.
SO OUR TEXTBOOKS ARE ALL MOVING FROM HARDCOPY TO ONLINE INSTRUCTION.
AND SO ALL KIDS ARE USING THE DEVICES CONSISTENTLY IN CLASSROOM, EVEN IF WE'RE NOT DOING FULLY REMOTE SESSIONS.
SO WE'RE UTILIZING BUT WE CAN DO A FULL PRESENTATION REGARDING THE REFRESH CYCLE.
IS THAT DISTRICT AFFAIRS OR IS THAT FACILITIES.
I WAS JUST SAYING I THINK THAT WOULD GIVE.
YEAH I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. TOTAL OVERVIEW AND WE COULD GET USAGE OF HOT SPOTS AND THE INTENTS OF THE TOWERS.
AND ONE THING THAT WE DID DO I WILL SAY THIS BECAUSE I REMEMBER IT VIVIDLY BECAUSE I BROUGHT IT UP AND THAT WAS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, WE HAD CLASSROOM SETS FOR THE CLASSROOMS TO USE THE DEVICES IN THE CLASSROOM AND ONLY IF THE STUDENT WAS SICK OR NEEDED IT OR WHATEVER, COULD THEN COULD TAKE ONE HOME.
BUT THEN WHEN COVID HIT, WE FOUND THAT THE KIDS WERE ALREADY AT HOME.
AND SO WE HAD TO HAVE DEVICES AT HOME FOR THE KIDS.
SCHOOL, WE WERE JUST USING CLASSROOM SETS.
EVERY CHILD HAS ACCESS TO ONE DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY TAKE IT HOME ALL THE TIME.
SO THE ONE TO ONE PLAN WOULD LOOK DIFFERENT FOR ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL.
HIGH SCHOOLS GET TO KEEP THEM AND TAKE THEM HOME.
ELEMENTARY, I MEAN, MIDDLE SCHOOL THEY PICKED IT UP IN THE MORNING, TOOK IT WITH THEIR ENTIRE ROTATION AND TURNED IT IN AFTER SCHOOL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE MULTIPLE CLASSES AND THEN IN ELEMENTARY NOW THEY HAVE CLASSROOM SETS IN EVERY CLASSROOM, SO THEY HAVE ACCESS TO IT. DO YOU GUYS NOT REALIZE THAT THE KIDS TOOK THEM HOME THIS SUMMER? NO. YEAH, WE ALLOWED THEM FOR THIS.
I'M SORRY. I WANTED THE CLARIFICATION.
WE ALLOWED THEM TO TAKE THEM HOME.
WE LEARNED A LOT DURING THE PROCESS OF HOW THE KIDS USE THEM AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
BUT WE ALSO WANTED THEM TO PERSONALIZE THAT THEY FELT LIKE THAT'S THEIR DEVICE, SO THEY TAKE BETTER CARE OF IT. THE SECOND PART TO IT WAS JUST THIS ALL TESTING IS MOVING TO ONLINE NOW. AND SO THE MORE WE CAN GET KIDS USED TO THE DIGITAL PLATFORMS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES FOR THESE TESTS, THE BETTER OFF WE WILL BE IN THE LONG TERM.
BUT WE'LL GET ALL THAT ON AN UPDATE ON A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM IF JULY IS ALREADY BOOKED, IS AUGUST OK.
AUGUST IS TOTALLY FINE. YEAH, OK.
THANK YOU. I WAS THINKING IT WOULD BE A BETTER ITEM FOR DISTRICT AFFAIRS IT WOULD GO A LITTLE DEEPER IN THAT DISCUSSION.
WELL, DISTRICT AFFAIRS, WE'RE ALREADY HAVING THE STAAR AND.
AUGUST? IN JULY. IN JULY? YEAH. WE'RE PUTTING THE STAAR IT'S ACTION PACKED.
WE MIGHT IT WOULD RUN REALLY, REALLY, REALLY LONG.
I THINK NO, JAMIE, I THINK WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS THEY'RE NOT DISAGREEING THAT IT SHOULD GO THROUGH COMMITTEE. IT'S JUST ABOUT MANY OF THE COMMITTEES FOR THE REST OF THE SUMMER IS ALREADY SET.
BUT THEN. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, IS AUGUST.
YEAH, AUGUST YES. AND INSTEAD OF THE BOARD MEETING, AUGUST FOR DISTRICT AFFAIRS.
WHEN I SAID AGENDA, I WAS BECAUSE YOU ARE PRESIDING.
AND I THINK MATT AND HIS TEAM WOULD HAVE A GREAT PRESENTATION.
WE COULD LOOK AT ALL KINDS OF DATA. YEAH USAGE.
AND WITH THAT TIMELINE, I WILL SAY THANK YOU, BECAUSE WITH THE WEEK OF SHUTDOWN, OUR BOARD DOCS ARE DUE THIS NEXT WEEK.
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THIS WEEK, WE'LL REVIEW IT AND VET IT AND GET THEM POSTED.DOES THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION? YES, SIR. THAT IS THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.
BOARD ANY FINAL COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS? THE ONLY THING I SEE AFTER THIS AS EXECUTIVE SESSION AND I DON'T SEE ANYTHING FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION, SO I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT.
SO MOVED. WE ARE ADJOURNED AT SIX O'CLOCK.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.