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IT IS NOW SIX O'CLOCK AND WE WERE GOING TO BEGIN THE, I CALL TO ORDER THE GARLAND INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF TRUSTEES DISTRICT AFFAIRS COMMITTEE MEETING FOR JULY 20TH, 2021.
I CERTIFY THAT A QUORUM IS PRESENT.
AND I'M GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM TWO, PUBLIC FORUM MS. HOGAN, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC FORUM ITEMS?
[III. Superintendent's Message]
LOPEZ. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SELDERS. AS WE MOVE INTO OUR LAST COMMITTEE MEETING FOR THE NIGHT DISTRICT AFFAIRS, I JUST WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT WE HAD A FABULOUS KICKOFF TODAY AT WHAT WE CALL LEAD CON AND LEAD CON IS OUR ANNUAL CONFERENCE THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR DISTRICT ADMINISTRATORS, PRINCIPALS, ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS.AND WHAT WE DID IT WAS LIKE A CONFERENCE FORMAT WHERE YOU SIGNED UP.
THERE WAS THIS GREAT KEYNOTE SPEAKER THAT WE LISTENED TO.
SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THE AWESOME THING IS THAT WE HAVE SO MANY PRINCIPALS THAT ARE JUST SO GUNG HO ABOUT THIS SCHOOL YEAR.
THE ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS ARE ON FIRE.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST REFRESHING TO BE FACE TO FACE AND FEEL PEOPLE'S ENERGY.
I REALLY BELIEVE IN MY HEART OF HEARTS THAT EVERYBODY'S READY FOR THIS TRANSITION TO BE AS NORMAL OF A SCHOOL YEAR AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE.
WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S GOING TO BE UNFORESEEN OBSTACLES THAT COME OUR WAY.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET AN UPDATE TODAY ON STAAR RESULTS AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE AN UPHILL BATTLE WITH LEARNING LOSS.
BUT BEFORE WE GO INTO THIS LEARNING LOSS, I WANT YOU TO KNOW SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE LEARNED IN THE PANDEMIC.
AND MY WIFE WOULD CALL IT CAPTAIN OBVIOUS.
OK? WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IS THE MORE ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED THAT A SCHOOL DISTRICT IS, THE MORE DETRIMENTAL THE LEARNING LOSS WAS.
I'M GOING TO SAY THAT AGAIN, THE HIGHER THE ECONOMIC STRESS THAT A SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS, THE HARDER IT WAS TO RECOVER FROM COVID.
THAT'S GOING TO BE THE FIRST THING.
THE SECOND THING WAS WHICH WE ALL KNOW, THE MORE STUDENTS IN THE DISTRICT THAT WENT FACE TO FACE, THE MORE SUCCESS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE.
SO WHEN YOU EVEN LOOK AT OUR DATA AND YOU COMBINE AND YOU LOOK AT ECO DIS, OUR ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED STUDENTS VERSUS ARE NON ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED STUDENTS, YOU WILL SEE A BIG, HUGE WIDENED GAP.
YOU YOU WILL NOTICE THAT WE HAVE RECOVERY AND YOU WILL NOTICE IF WE WHEN WE BREAK IT DOWN BY SCHOOL, THE SCHOOLS THAT HAD HIGH FACE TO FACE PARTICIPATION WITH LOW ECO DIS, DID SIGNIFICANTLY WELL COMPARED TO THE OTHERS.
BUT WHAT THE RESULTS DON'T SHOW, OK, BECAUSE THERE'S TALES IN THERE IS THE LOVE AND ATTENTION THAT EVERY EDUCATOR IN OUR DISTRICT PUT FORWARD IN MANAGING STUDENTS DURING A CRISIS.
UNFORESEEN TALES OF MAKING KIDS FEEL AT HOME, MAKING THEM SURE THAT THEY STILL FEEL WELCOME. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON AT HOME, WHETHER IT'S VIRTUALLY OR FACE TO FACE AND OUR EDUCATORS DAY IN AND DAY OUT, WEATHERED THAT STRESS AND PUT IT ON THEIR SHOULDERS TO MAKE IT THROUGH. AND WE KNOW THAT THE ROAD IS GOING TO BE ONE OF UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES WITH VERY HIGH EXPECTATIONS FROM THEMSELVES AS WELL AS OUR BOARD.
AND AS WE GO INTO THIS TRANSITION, I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT WE KNEW THE COVID SLIDE WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE REGIONAL RESULTS, SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T PAINT THE PICTURE OF ALL THE GOOD THAT DID HAPPEN.
BUT WE'RE NOT SHYING AWAY FROM THE WORK.
AND IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT THE LAW OF AVERAGES ON OUR REGION, IF YOU WHEN YOU LOOK AT BREAK DOWN THE DATA AND IT'S REAL MICRO LEVELS, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PACK. WE'RE NOT THE WORST.
WE'RE NOT THE BEST. WE'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE GEARING UP FOR OUR RECOVERY PLANS FROM THIS DATA.
AND WE FEEL I FEEL ACTUALLY I KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TEAM BECAUSE ALL OF THIS TEAM HAS BEEN HANDPICKED BY REALLY HIGH, GREAT PRINCIPALS TO GET THE JOB DONE.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM FOUR INFORMATION ITEMS AND ITEM A, WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE THE
[IV. Information Items]
STAAR RESULTS AND THE END OF YEAR MAP DATA MS. JOYNER. GOOD EVENING, MR. SELDERS, PRESIDENT MILLER, BOARD OF TRUSTEES.[00:05:03]
IT ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE THANK YOU.LOPEZ ATTENDED MY ACCOUNTABILITY SESSION TODAY WITH HIS INTRODUCTION, BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT PRINCIPALS AND I SPOKE ABOUT THIS AFTERNOON.
SO IF I LOOK A LITTLE MORE DISHEVELED THAN I DO ON A NORMAL NIGHT, JUST KNOW THAT IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING THE WORK DONE RIGHT.
WE'RE CHATTING WITH PRINCIPALS AND THEY ARE NOT SHYING AWAY AT ALL FROM THE WORK THAT'S AHEAD OF THEM. AND DR.
LOPEZ MENTIONED THIS JUST A MOMENT AGO AND WE SAID THIS EARLIER TODAY.
IT'S THE PEOPLE. IT'S HAVING THE RIGHT PEOPLE DOING THE WORK THAT'S GOING TO HELP US MAKE THE GREATEST IMPACT. SO THIS EVENING'S PRESENTATION IS GOING TO HIGHLIGHT THE STUDENT PERFORMANCE FOR SPRING 2021 ON STAAR AND ON MAP FOR THE END OF THE YEAR.
THE GOAL OF THE PRESENTATION IS TO PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH AN AWARENESS OF WHERE THE STUDENT PERFORMANCE IS IN OUR ASSESSMENT PROGRAM FOR ALL STUDENTS AND IN YOUR PACKET, YOU DO HAVE THE COMPARISONS TO REGION AND STATE PERFORMANCE, AS WELL AS GISD PERFORMANCE FOR VARIOUS STUDENT GROUPS. THIS INFORMATION HAS BEEN MUCH ANTICIPATED, BOTH FOR SCHOOL ACTION PLANS IN RESPONSE TO THE ANTICIPATED LEARNING LOSS THAT OCCURRED OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS, AS WELL AS IN PREPARATION FOR THESE POTENTIAL BOARD GOAL UPDATES THAT YOU ALL HAVE ON THE AGENDA. SO IN ADVANCE OF THIS PRESENTATION, THE FOLLOWING DOCUMENTS WERE PROVIDED FOR YOUR REVIEW. SO IN YOUR PACKETS, YOU HAVE A DRAFT OF THE PRESENTATION.
YOU'RE GOING TO NOTICE THAT TONIGHT'S SLIDE, SLIDES ARE A CONDENSED VERSION OF WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET, SIMPLY BECAUSE WE ARE STILL TALKING ABOUT HIGH LEVEL AND OUR ACADEMIC RECOVERY PLAN AND THE CAMPUS IMPROVEMENT PLANS, THOSE ARE ALL DRILLING DOWN TO THE CAMPUS LEVEL. BUT YOU DO HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN YOUR PACKET.
YOU'LL ALSO SEE A COMPARISON OF DISTRICT RESULTS FROM 2019 TO 2021.
IS IT A FAIR COMPARISON? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME POINT OF REFERENCE.
YOU'LL ALSO HAVE DISTRICT PERCENTAGE OF STAAR PERFORMANCE FOR TESTED STUDENTS WHO ATTENDED AT LEAST ONE LEVEL OR ONE INTERVENTION SESSION DURING ONE OR BOTH OF THE DISTRICT INTERCESSIONS IN TERMS OF FALL IN SPRING AND ALSO THE MAP PERFORMANCE AND GROWTH SUMMARIES FOR THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO I'M GOING TO BRING YOU BACK TO JUNE 2020.
NONE OF US WANT TO GO THERE, BUT JUNE 2020.
YOU WERE PRESENTED THIS INFORMATION.
SO TEA HAD PUT TOGETHER THE SLIDE THAT'S ON THE LEFT, THE INFORMATION ON THE LEFT SHOWING THAT THAT SUMMER SLIDE AND DR.
LOPEZ REFERENCED IT ALREADY IS GREATER FOR OUR STUDENTS THAT ARE ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED. AND THEY CAN CREATE A GAP OF UP TO THREE YEARS FOR OUR LOW INCOME STUDENTS. THE TEA MODELS ON THE RIGHT SHOWED THE DECLINES WOULD BE PARTICULARLY STARK IN MATHEMATICS. SO WHEN MRS. [INAUDIBLE] STOOD IN FRONT OF YOU JUNE 2020, WE KNEW THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE SOME MAJOR AREAS OF GROWTH THAT WOULD OCCUR, OR LOSS THAT WOULD OCCUR IN OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL MATH PROGRAMS AND THOSE WERE PREDICTED TO TAKE THE BIGGEST HITS.
SO AGAIN, THE REALITY OF 2020, 2020 2021 IS STILL VERY VIVID IN OUR MINDS.
THE DECISIONS MADE BY OUR INCREDIBLE LEADERSHIP TEAMS PUT GISD AHEAD OF THE IMPLEMENTATION CURVE FOR MANY IN MANY AREAS, THESE DECISIONS INCLUDE ADJUSTING OUR ACADEMIC CALENDAR TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL MINUTES AND DAYS, MAXIMIZING THE THREE INTERCESSIONS THAT WERE GOING TO BE EMBEDDED IN THE CALENDAR.
WE LAUNCHED CANVAS AS OUR LEARNING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND NOW TEACHERS CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT IT. RIGHT. AND ALSO WE USED VIRTUAL LEARNING AS A WAY TO MEET THE NEEDS OF MOST OF OUR MEDICALLY FRAGILE STUDENTS.
SO MOVING INTO STAAR, IF THAT WASN'T ENOUGH, WE ALSO TRANSITIONED OUR STAAR TESTING PROGRAM TO BE MOSTLY ONLINE.
SO WE HAD OVER NINETY NINE PERCENT OF OUR STUDENTS TAKE THE STAAR TEST ONLINE AND WE HAD GREAT SUCCESS WITH THAT.
AND THE CAMPUS FEEDBACK WAS EXCEPTIONALLY POSITIVE.
NOW STAAR PERFORMANCE LEVELS ARE CATEGORIZED AS DOES NOT MEAN GRADE LEVEL, APPROACHES GRADE LEVEL, MEETS GRADE LEVEL AND MASTERS GRADE LEVEL.
NOW A NORMAL PRESENTATION IN A TYPICAL SCHOOL YEAR WOULD HIGHLIGHT THE RESULTS AT THE MEETS GRADE LEVEL.
BUT WE KNOW THAT 2020 2021 WAS MORE THAN ATYPICAL.
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OK, SO WHILE OUR GOAL STILL LIES AT THE MEETS GRADE LEVEL, TONIGHT'S RESULTS WILL BE HAD THE APPROACHES GRADE LEVEL.WE SLOWLY HAVE TO RISE FROM THE ASHES.
SO I FEEL LIKE IT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO REFERENCE STUDENT PERFORMANCE, AT AT THIS LEVEL.
THIS SLIDE HERE SHOWS THE AGGREGATE PERFORMANCE LEVEL BY SUBJECT AT EACH PERFORMANCE LEVEL. YOU'LL NOTICE A TREND WITH THE COLORS THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION AND IN YOUR BOARD PACKET.
APPROACHES IS A MAGENTA, MEETS IS BLUE AND MASTERS IS GREEN.
BUT THIS GRAPH AND THOSE THAT FOLLOW ONLY TELL ONE PARAGRAPH OF THE 2020 2021 STUDENT PERFORMANCE STORY AS WE WERE ONLY LOOKING AT AVERAGES.
AND DR. LOPEZ ALREADY MENTIONED THE RULE OF AVERAGES AND THE MYTH OF THE AVERAGE.
SO SOMETIMES THEY CAN TELL A GREAT STORY, BUT SOMETIMES IT HIDES ALL OF THE GREAT THAT'S GOING ON. SO IN YOUR PACKET YOU WILL FIND AN ANALYSIS BY SUBJECT AND BY GRADE LEVEL.
MR. SELDERS? JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION.
REFRESH FOR ME FIRST TIME TESTERS.
WHAT IS THAT DEFINED AS? YES. AND IF YOU'LL GIVE ME A MOMENT WHEN I GET TO THE EOC SLIDE, I'LL HELP CLARIFY THAT.
IS THAT OK? OH, I GUESS I WAS ON THE SLIDE.
SO FIRST TIME TESTERS FOR HIGH SCHOOL, WE HAVE RETESTING STUDENTS SO STUDENTS THAT DID NOT MEET THE PERFORMANCE GOAL THE FIRST TIME.
SO FOR THIS PURPOSE, BECAUSE WE REALLY WANT TO SEE THAT LEARNING FOR KIDS THAT HAD ACCESS TO THE CONTENT THE VERY FIRST TIME.
SO REALLY IN THIS CASE, THE ONES THAT WE'RE EXCLUDING ARE RE-TESTERS FOR HIGH SCHOOL.
YES. OK, BUT THANKS FOR THE QUESTION.
OK. SO AS WE DIG A LITTLE DEEPER, WE CAN SEE HOW CERTAIN STUDENT GROUPS PERFORMED AS COMPARED TO THE ALL STUDENT CATEGORY.
TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION DOES HIGHLIGHT THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN OUR ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED STUDENTS AS COMPARED TO OUR NON ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED STUDENTS.
LOPEZ ALREADY MENTIONED AND WE MENTIONED EARLIER WITH THE CONNECTION TO TEA.
WE ALSO SEE STUDENT PERFORMANCE FOR HISPANIC, AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND WHITE STUDENTS.
NOW, WHEN I COME BACK TO YOU IN SEPTEMBER, AND I'M PRESENTING THESE RESULTS IN A DIFFERENT IN A DIFFERENT LIGHT FOR 2021 ACCOUNTABILITY YEAR, YOU WILL HAVE THE RESULTS FOR ALL STUDENTS.
SO ALL THE RACE AND ETHNICITY GROUPS, SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENTS THAT ARE IN A SPECIAL EDUCATION PROGRAM, STUDENTS THAT ARE ENGLISH LEARNERS, THE WHOLE GAMUT.
BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT, WE ARE JUST ISOLATING JUST A FEW STUDENT GROUPS.
SO AS A REMINDER, THESE RESULTS ARE AT APPROACHES GRADE LEVEL, YOU WILL FIND THE RESULTS FOR ALL PERFORMANCE LEVELS, FOR APPROACHES, MEETS AND MASTERS, AS WELL AS THE COMPARISON TO THE 2019 STAAR RESULTS FOR THE SAME GRADE LEVEL IN YOUR PACKET.
CAN I GET SOME CLARITY, THOUGH, SO YOU SAID THAT FOR TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION, IT'S JUST A SELECT GROUP, SO.
WHAT'S THE SELECT GROUP? YES, SO WE HAVE THEM HERE, SO WE HAVE THE ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED, NON ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED HISPANIC, AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND WHITE, BUT WE'VE EXCLUDED ANY SPECIAL ED OR? WELL, THEY'RE NOT EXCLUDED FROM THE TOTAL RESULTS.
WE JUST DON'T I DON'T HAVE THEM GRAPHED FOR YOU.
YOU JUST HAVEN'T PULLED THEM OUT FOR THEIR OWN SPECIFIC? YES, MA'AM. THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR OWN BAR IN THIS CHART.
AND IT'S REALLY JUST TO WE WE NEED TO SIMPLIFY.
WE NEED TO SEE WHERE AND NOT THAT ANY OTHER STUDENT GROUP IS NOT IMPORTANT.
BUT JUST TO KEEP IT SIMPLE FOR TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION.
YES. OK, SO THEN LOOKING AT OUR STAAR EOC RESULTS, THESE EXAMS REMAINED A GRADUATION REQUIREMENT FOR STUDENTS THAT WERE IN EIGHTH GRADE.
IF THEY TOOK ALGEBRA ONE FOR OUR 9TH THROUGH 11TH GRADERS, THEY DID NOT RECEIVE ANY WAIVERS AS THEY DID SPRING 2020.
SO THE RESULTS ARE FOR STUDENTS WHO ATTEMPTED THE END OF COURSE, EXAM FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME. SO BACK TO MR. MILLER'S QUESTION ABOUT WHAT ARE FIRST TIME TESTERS, IT'S THEY HAD THE COURSE, THEY TOOK THE EXAM FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME, IS EXCLUDING ANY OF OUR RE-TESTERS.
SO OUR ENGLISH TWO COURSES SAW THE SMALLEST CHANGE RATE AS COMPARED TO 2019 MEETS GRADE LEVEL RESULTS. AND AS I MENTIONED TO PRINCIPALS TODAY, BECAUSE WE SAW THE SAME WITH READING. RIGHT, THAT ONLY HIGHLIGHTS THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING TRULY VERTICALLY ALIGNED STANDARDS IN OUR CONTENT ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
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IF YOU'RE LISTENING, KUDOS TO YOU.SO STUDENTS TYPICALLY TAKE ALGEBRA ONE AND BIOLOGY IN THEIR FRESHMAN YEAR, SO THE RESULTS THAT YOU SEE HERE DO INCLUDE MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS THAT THAT TOOK ALGEBRA ONE, BUT AS COMPARED TO U.S.
HISTORY STUDENTS WHO ARE TYPICALLY IN 11TH GRADE.
SO IF YOU NOTICE THE DIFFERENCES, STUDENTS THAT ARE CLOSER TO GRADUATION TYPICALLY HAVE A GREATER SENSE OF URGENCY THAN THOSE NINTH GRADE STUDENTS THAT STILL REALLY AREN'T EVEN THINKING ABOUT GRADUATION.
OK, AS A BOARD, YOU HAVE ALSO ASKED TO SEE STUDENT PERFORMANCE FOR STUDENTS WHO ATTENDED INTERSESSION. I DO WANT TO CAUTION YOU AS YOU REVIEW THESE RESULTS.
I'M SORRY, MR. MR. GLICK SORRY. YES.
SO. JUST TRY AND UNDERSTAND THE RATIONALE FOR USING APPROACHES RATHER THAN MEETS IS WHAT ? WE WE REALLY NEED TO START SOMEWHERE, RIGHT? SO APPROACHES. WE KNOW THAT THAT IS THEY PASSED.
THEY HAVE PASSED STAAR, WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE ON ON PAR TO PERFORM WELL THE VERY NEXT GRADE LEVEL. AND SO SHOWING IT AT APPROACHES WOULDN'T HAVE TOLD US THE WHOLE STORY.
IT WOULD HAVE IT WOULD HAVE REALLY SAID, OH, MYLANTA, LOOK AT ALL OF THESE KIDS.
THEY DIDN'T PASS. BUT THAT'S NOT TRUE.
RIGHT, BECAUSE APPROACHES IS REALLY THE PASSING MARK.
I ALWAYS THOUGHT PASSING IS MORE MEETS THAN APPROACHES.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR A STUDENT WHO IS IN HIGH SCHOOL, THAT TAKES AN END OF COURSE EXAM.
IT'S A GRADUATION REQUIREMENT.
SO LONG AS A STUDENT PERFORMS AT THE APPROACHES GRADE LEVEL, THEY HAVE MET THEIR GRADUATION REQUIREMENT SO THAT IN TURN THEY HAVE PASSED THE STAAR EXAM.
BUT FOR THE YOUNGER STUDENTS, WHAT WE'RE SHOWING IS THE RESULTS OF THEIR POTENTIAL ABILITY TO MOVE AHEAD.
SURE. WHERE MEETS WOULD CERTAINLY CERTIFY THEIR ABILITY TO MOVE AHEAD.
SO. I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE ANY CHARTS REALLY THERE REALLY NO COMPARISON CHARTS OTHER THAN THE FIRST ONE YOU SHOWED US.
YOU DO HAVE THE DOCUMENT THAT HAS ALL OF THE THE LEVELS THAT APPROACHES, MEETS, AND M ASTERS. SO OBVIOUSLY, THIS WAS A ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION TO SHOW THESE RESULTS, RIGHT? WELL, BECAUSE, AGAIN, IT'S WE KNOW THAT LEARNING LOSS HAS OCCURRED.
WE KNOW THAT STUDENTS WE HAVE A LOT OF STUDENTS WHO HAVEN'T HAD ACCESS TO THE LEARNING IN A WAY THAT WE NORMALLY WOULD HAVE WANT THEM TO BECAUSE OF THE VIRTUAL SITUATION.
AND SO EVEN EVEN THE STUDENTS THAT WERE REMOTE LEARNERS WHO CAME TO SCHOOL TO TEST PRINCIPALS WERE TELLING ME TODAY THEY HAD HIGH ACHIEVING STUDENTS, G.T.
STUDENTS WHO JUST CLICK THROUGH THE STAAR TEST BECAUSE THERE WASN'T THERE WASN'T ANY BITE TO IT. RIGHT. FIFTH GRADERS AND EIGHTH GRADERS, THEY WEREN'T LOOKING AT IT AS IF I DON'T PASS MY FIFTH GRADE STAAR FOR READING OR MATH OR MY EIGHTH GRADE STAAR FOR READING OR MATH. I DON'T GET TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY VARIABLES, IT JUST SEEMS THAT SHOWING A MEETS PERCENTAGE FOR FOR YOU ALL FOR THE BOARD AND FOR THIS PRESENTATION, THAT IT WOULDN'T HAVE TOLD THE WHOLE STORY OF EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON IN THE CLASSROOMS TO GET THESE STUDENTS PREPARED. AND THEN ON THE FLIP SIDE, AS I MENTIONED, STUDENTS THAT THAT THEY DIDN'T PERFORM AS WELL AS THEY COULD HAVE.
I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE DOING IT.
SURE. I JUST THINK WE'RE TELLING A STORY THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY FAIR FOR THE STUDENTS OR FOR THE TEACHER BECAUSE THEY STILL HAVE TO SUCCEED.
AND WE'RE USING A BENCHMARK THAT DOESN'T SPELL SUCCESS, DOES IT? AT LEAST IN MY OPINION.
I MEAN, WE HAVE HERE IN THIS ROOM TALKED ABOUT USING MEETS AND YOU IN YOU INDICATED THAT THAT'S HOW YOU STARTED YOUR PRESENTATION IS.
WE'VE ALWAYS USED MEETS BEFORE AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO A LESSER STANDARD.
RIGHT. I GUESS I WOULD HOPE THAT IN THE FUTURE.
IT'S ALMOST WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THIS BOARD.
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WE AND FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, WE COMPARED OURSELVES TO REGION 10, THAT WAS OUR BENCHMARK, AND WE BEAT REGION 10, THEN WHEN SOMEHOW OUR RESULTS WERE LESSER, WE START AND COMPARE OURSELVES TO THE STATE OF TEXAS.SO WE CHANGED BENCHMARKS BECAUSE WE COULD BEAT THE STATE, BUT WE COULDN'T BEAT REGION 10.
I JUST HOPE THAT'S NOT SETTING A PRECEDENT WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.
THAT'S THE ONLY POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE.
RIGHT. NOT AT ALL. AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, TODAY WITH PRINCIPLES, WE TALKED ABOUT, THE MOST IMPORTANT ASSESSMENT THAT THEY WILL PROBABLY ADMINISTER DURING THE FALL SEMESTER IS GOING TO BE THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR MAP, BECAUSE ALL OF OUR KIDS ARE AT SCHOOL, ALL OF OUR KIDS ARE GEARING UP FOR THE SCHOOL YEAR, AND INTERVENTION COURSES WILL LIKELY HINGE ON THAT BEGINNING OF THE YEAR MAP.
SO WHILE STAAR WAS IMPORTANT AND I STOOD UP HERE IN FEBRUARY AND IN MARCH TALKING ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF STAAR, THE IMPORTANCE OF STAAR, I DON'T MEAN TO DIMINISH THE RESULTS OF THE TESTS THAT I STOOD UP HERE AND SAID IT'S SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR ALL OF THE DIFFERENT VARIABLES AND EVEN THEN THE COMPARISONS TO REGION 10.
AND AS DR. LOPEZ MENTIONED, THERE WERE SCHOOLS THAT LOOKED LIKE THIS THAT HAD THE NUMBER OF VIRTUAL STUDENTS THAT WE HAD, THAT HAD THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT THAT DIDN'T SHOW UP TO TEST, THAT WERE HIGH PERFORMING KIDS.
THAT COULD HAVE LIKELY CHANGED THE OUTCOME OF OUR RESULTS.
SO IT WILL NOT BE SETTING A PRECEDENT MOVING FORWARD.
BUT I FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO START SOMEWHERE WITHOUT FEELING LIKE IT WAS A TRUE PUNCH IN THE GUT FOR LACK OF A MORE REFINED EXPRESSION.
AND I THINK I'M CORRECT THAT THE STATE HAS MANDATED THAT WE GO BACK IN THIS SCHOOL YEAR.
THAT'S ABOUT TO START WITH LETTER GRADES FOR BOTH CAMPUSES AND THE DISTRICT.
I THINK THAT'S CORRECT? YES. FOR 2022 ACCOUNTABILITY.
SO WE WILL BE JUDGED NOT BY WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING US, BUT BY THE REAL BENCHMARK, WHICH IS MEETS AND MASTERS. YES.
OK. AND THOSE ARE THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I ASSURE YOU ARE HAPPENING WITH CAMPUSES, WITH PRINCIPALS AND IN NEXT WEEK WITH TEACHERS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MS. SELDERS.
YES. I WOULD JUST LIKE FOR DR.
LOPEZ TO WAY INTO THIS IN TERMS OF THE CONCEPT THAT YOU ALL IN THE EXECUTIVE TEAM THAT COLLECTIVELY CAME UP WITH THAT, THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO START.
SO TWO THINGS. THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION AND OUR OWN PERSONAL EXPECTATIONS.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO DO THE ACTIVITY NOW.
I WAS GOING TO WAIT TO THE END AND IT'S GOING TO TRANSLATE TO WHAT WE'RE DOING.
OK, SO I'LL GIVE YOU ALL A RUBBER BAND.
OK, NO SHOOTING THEM AT EACH OTHER.
SO I'LL BE COMING UP AND IT'S A PERFECT [INAUDIBLE].
IT'S A PERFECT SEGUE TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
OK, SO WE'VE SEEN THE RESULTS AND IN FULL TRANSPARENCY, WE'VE GIVEN YOU A CHART THAT SHOWS ALL THREE LEVELS.
OK, SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE JUST HIGHLIGHTING ONE LEVEL.
BUT THE REASON FOR THIS LEVEL IS BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS THIS.
IF A KID, NO MATTER WHAT THEY GET, IF THEY HAVE A GOOD MARK ON, LET'S SAY THEY HAVE A GOOD MARK ON THE END OF COURSE EXAMS FOR HIGH SCHOOL, OK, THEY DON'T HAVE TO RETAKE THE TEST.
IF THEY GET AN APPROACHES, THEY DON'T HAVE TO RETAKE A TEST.
SO FOR US, WE CANNOT MAKE THEM RETEST BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T MEET OUR MEETS STANDARD.
OK, AND A NUMBER OF OUR KIDS, YOU COULD SEE THEY MAY HAVE MET THE MEET STANDARD, BUT WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY. AND I MEAN, APPROACHES STANDARD, BUT WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY AS MEETS AND MASTERS. RIGHT.
WHICH TAKES ME TO THIS ACTIVITY, US AS A BOARD.
WE SET THE VISION. WE SET THE TONE.
WE SET WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE GOING TO BE.
AND TENSION IS A VERY HEALTHY THING.
OK, WHEN YOU HAVE TENSION IN AN ORGANIZATION, THAT MEANS YOU ARE STRETCHING THE ORGANIZATION TO GROW.
ALL RIGHT. BUT SOMETIMES TOO MUCH TENSION CAN CAUSE SOMEBODY TO SNAP OR SOMETHING TO SNAP. SO IF WE THINK ABOUT IT, I WANT YOU TO GET ONE HAND AND PUT IT IN THE RUBBER BAND.
OK, I WANT YOU IN YOUR MIND RIGHT NOW TO PUT LOOKING AT THE RESULTS BECAUSE YOU'VE ALL
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SEEN IT. WHERE IS THE REALITY OF OUR SITUATION AS A DISTRICT? OK, PUT IT HIGH OR LOW WITH THAT OF THAT RUBBER BAND IN YOUR HAND.OK, WHERE DO YOU THINK IT IS? JUST ONE HAND. KEEP IT LOOSE LIKE THIS.
WHERE IS THE REALITY OF OUR SITUATION? AND THEN WITH THE OTHER HAND, I WANT YOU TO PULL IT AND PUT WHAT IS YOUR VISION FOR THE DISTRICT? IS IT BARELY PUTTING? IS IT EXTENSIVE? WHAT WHERE IS THE VISION FOR THE DISTRICT FOR IN YOUR MIND? SO IF THE REALITY IS HERE, WHERE DO YOU ENVISION US TO GO? OK, AND IF YOU NOTICE, THE HIGHER YOUR VISION, THE MORE TENSION YOU'RE FEELING.
CORRECT? AND THE MORE TENSION YOU'RE FEELING.
THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING HERE ARE EITHER GOING TO SAY, LISTEN, IT'S TOO MUCH TENSION AND WE LOWER OUR EXPECTATIONS, WHICH WE DON'T WANT TO DO, OR WE PUT REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS. AND AS THEY RISE, THEN OUR EXPECTATIONS RISE WITH THEM.
AND SO THIS IS A PERFECT WAY TO TALK ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW.
MR. GLICK, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE TENSION IS IS IS IMMENSE WITH OUR TEACHERS.
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THE FLOOR ISN'T SO FAR DOWN THAT WE CAN'T GET OUR SELF OUT OF THERE, THAT WE UNDERSTAND OUR REALITY IS RIGHT HERE.
BUT WE EXPECT GRADES TO BE HERE BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION.
WE DON'T EXPECT THE GRADES TO BE HERE BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION.
AND WHILE THIS TENSION WOULD WITHHOLD IT, HOW LONG WILL IT HOLD IT BEFORE THIS BAND SNAPS? AND THAT IS THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION, THAT WE WANT TO BALANCE HIGH EXPECTATIONS WITH MANAGEABLE, HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT.
AND WHENEVER WE'RE GOAL SETTING, YOU KNOW, THIS HELPS.
I USED THE BIG RUBBER BAND BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG ORGANIZATION.
BUT DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING, THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO CALIBRATE IF YOU'RE IN TUNE TO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WHATEVER WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
SO AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE EXPECTATIONS, MAKE NO MISTAKE, WE DON'T WE DON'T WANT FAILING GRADES.
BUT SOME SCHOOLS, IF I ASK THEM FOR AN A THE TENSION IS LIKE THIS.
DO WE NOT AGREE? IT'S A HIGHER EXPECTATION FOR SOME SCHOOLS BECAUSE WE GOT SEVENTY TWO SCHOOLS. BUT IF I TURN AROUND TO SCHOOL B AND THEY'RE DOWN HERE, THINK OF THE TENSION THAT'S HAPPENING AND THAT'S NOT A REALISTIC EXPECTATION.
SO THAT'S HOW WE'RE PROCEEDING WITH THIS.
AND THIS IS WHY WE'RE STARTING WITH APPROACHES WE KNOW MEETS IS OUR TARGET.
WE'RE NOT LOSING SIGHT OF THAT, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE RECALIBRATE.
WE GET WE GET SECURE FOOTING AND THEN WE MOVE FORWARD.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO VERONICA.
THANK YOU, DR. LOPEZ, WAS I THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS NERVOUS THAT THAT THING WAS GOING TO SNAP AT HIM? [LAUGHTER] LIKE, OH MY GOD, LET ME STEP BACK.
OK, SO AGAIN, IN SHOWING THE INTERSESSION, WE KNOW THAT THE STUDENTS THAT ARE THAT WE ASKED TO PARTICIPATE IN INTERSESSION WERE OUR STUDENTS WITH THE MOST CRITICAL ACADEMIC NEED. OK, SO EVEN COMPARING STUDENTS THAT ATTENDED INTERSESSION TO STUDENTS THAT DID NOT WAS WAS REALLY AN UNFAIR COMPARISON.
AND WE DID NOT HAVE A CONTROL GROUP TO COMPARE THEM AGAINST BECAUSE WE'VE NEVER HAD INTERSESSION BEFORE. WE DIDN'T HAVE INTERSESSION DURING A NON COVID YEAR.
BUT WHAT I DO ANTICIPATE SEEING NEXT YEAR AND THE YEAR AFTER THAT AND THE YEAR THAT FOLLOWS ARE TREMENDOUS GAINS IN OUR THIRD GRADE GROUP.
AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF OUR STUDENTS HAD ATTENDED INTERSESSION THIS PAST YEAR WERE STUDENTS IN PRIMARY FOR WHATEVER REASON THAT MAY HAVE BEEN.
THEY WANT TO SEE THEIR TEACHER EVERY SINGLE DAY.
WE ARE GOING TO START SEEING THOSE GAINS, IN MY OPINION, AS THE YEARS MOVE FORWARD AND WE START SEEING THAT IN THIRD GRADE AND THAT'LL TRICKLE INTO FOURTH GRADE, SO ON AND SO FORTH. OK, SO THEN MAP GROWTH, END OF THE YEAR.
NOW I TYPICALLY HAVE A FULL BLOWN MAP PRESENTATION FOR YOU ALL, BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO FOCUS ON THAT GROWTH.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE STAAR IS NOT GIVING US A GROWTH MEASURE THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE HAVE NOTHING TO COMPARE IT TO.
SO IT FELT MOST APPROPRIATE TO FOCUS ON THE GROWTH, NOT BECAUSE WE THINK THAT OUR PERFORMANCE LEVELS WERE NOT UP TO PAR, EXACTLY THE SAME AS OUR STAAR RESULTS.
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BUT IT'S THAT GROWTH.WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE WANT TO SEE THAT STUDENTS ARE GROWING EVEN BEYOND THAT PERFORMANCE LEVEL. SO IN YOUR PACKET, YOU DO HAVE THE FULL MAP BY GRADE LEVEL BY SUBJECT, AND IT HAS A PERFORMANCE, THE GROWTH AND THEN THE PROJECTED PROFICIENCY FOR STAAR THAT WE ALREADY TOOK. SO WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR 2021, 2022? AND DR. LOPEZ, JUST DID A GREAT JOB EXPLAINING WHAT THIS IS LOOKING LIKE FOR OUR CAMPUSES . BUT I CAN'T HIGHLIGHT ENOUGH THE WORK THAT IS GOING ON WITH OUR ACADEMIC ACCELERATION PLAN. OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS OF LEADERSHIP HAVE SEEN IT, THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE PRINCIPALS. WE'RE ESTABLISHING OUR GOALS WE'RE ESTABLISHING THE METRICS.
WE'RE HAVING A FULL RETURN TO FACE AND FACE INSTRUCTION.
WE HAVE HAD AN ORGANIZATIONAL RESTRUCTURING THAT YOU ALL HAVE SEEN TO TRULY SUPPORT THAT TIER ONE INSTRUCTION THAT WE MENTIONED AT ALMOST EVERY SINGLE ACADEMIC PRESENTATION FOR YOU ALL. WE ARE GOING TO BE USING OUR ESSER FUNDS TO BRING IN HIGH QUALITY TUTORING.
WE'RE ALSO RESEARCHING OTHER POTENTIAL GRANTS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
NOW MONEY ISN'T IT ISN'T ALL, RIGHT.
SO ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT WE CAN BRING INTO THE DISTRICT TO HELP THE ACADEMIC SIDE.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE AMAZING PARTNERS OUR RESILIENT SUPPORT, SCHOOL SUPPORT PROGRAM, COMMIT, SYSTEM OF GREAT SCHOOLS.
THEY ARE ALL EXCELLENT PARTNERS THAT ARE HELPING US VIEW OUR PLANS AND BEING THAT CRITICAL EYE THAT WE NEED SO THAT WE CONTINUE TO MOVE THE NEEDLE.
OK, SO ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I LIKE THE CHUCKLE. MR., MR. GLICK. ONE OF THE THINGS DR.
LOPEZ IN HIS REPORT TO US TALKED ABOUT THIS SUNDAY WAS THE DIFFICULTY IN GETTING TEACHERS THAT WERE AND HE SAID THIS IS UNIVERSAL, NOT JUST IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, UNITED STATES.
SO AND I UNDERSTAND THE ESSER FUNDS FOR TUTORS.
IS THAT GOING TO BE MORE DIFFICULT TO GET TUTORS NOW? ARE THESE GOING TO BE TEACHERS WHO ARE NOT TEACHING, WHO JUST WANT TO MAKE EXTRA INCOME? WHAT ARE YOU SEEING WITH THE IDEA? I LOVE THE IDEA OF HAVING THE DOLLARS FOR TUTORS.
I THINK THAT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.
WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET THAT THAT [INAUDIBLE] FROM? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
AND IT IS SO IMPORTANT MR. GLICK THAT TEA IS BASICALLY CREATING THIS WHOLE DEPARTMENT SURROUNDED BY TUTORS, OR SURROUNDED AROUND TUTORS, SURROUNDED AROUND TUTORING, AND THEY ARE HIRING PEOPLE AT THE TEA LEVEL TO MANAGE THE TRAINING FOR TUTORING.
AND THAT'S GOING TO TRICKLE DOWN TO OUR REGION CENTER.
SO THEY ARE GOING TO BE HELPING PROVIDE LIKE LISTS OF TUTORS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE ONLY FOCUSED ON GARLAND ISD, BUT THINK ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THAT FOR RURAL SCHOOLS, RIGHT? SO THIS IS SO IMPORTANT THAT TYPICALLY WE SEE A TEA MANDATE AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT.
RIGHT. IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF THE LEGWORK, BUT ALSO RETIRED TEACHERS. WE HAVE A LOT OF TEACHERS WHO LEFT OUR AMAZING SCHOOL DISTRICT BECAUSE THEY'RE TIRED FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN MAN, I JUST I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN DO IT ANYMORE.
SO IMAGINE THE RECRUITMENT OF THE PEOPLE WHO MAN, THEY ARE GARLAND ISD TO THE CORE AND THEY ARE COMING BACK TO SERVE IN A DIFFERENT CAPACITY.
SO AS SCHOOL BEGINS, WHAT, TWO WEEKS, WE SAID YOU ARE READY TO START AS SOON AS NECESSARY TO BRING BRING IN THIS GROUP OF TUTORS? WELL, I WON'T SAY AS SOON AS NECESSARY.
WE'RE STILL THERE'S STILL A LOT OF THINGS IN THE WORK, BUT AS SOON AS HUMANLY CAPABLE, WE WILL HAVE QUALITY PEOPLE WORKING ONE ON ONE, THREE TO ONE, 18 TO ONE, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER ENDS UP BEING WITH OUR GISD KIDS.
WHAT WE DISCOVERED WHEN THE TORNADOES HIT BOTH ROWLETT AND GARLAND AND WE NEEDED TO CALL ON PEOPLE TO MAKE PHONE CALLS AND ALL THAT.
OUR RETIRED TEACHERS WERE INCREDIBLE.
ABSOLUTELY. AND I'M SURE THERE WILL BE MORE THAN WILLING TO HELP IN THIS THING.
SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT, GREAT ASSET.
ALL RIGHT. THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL FOR THE FOR THE TIME AND FOR THE GREAT QUESTIONS, AS ALWAYS.
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ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO DISCUSSION ITEMS, FIRST ITEM IS BOARD GOAL DISCUSSION.[V. Discussion Items]
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN A SPECIAL MEETING ON JUNE 21ST, AND WE BROUGHT SOMEONE IN FROM GOVERNANCE COACHING, FROM LEADERSHIP ISD TO SORT OF SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROCESS.WHAT I'VE GIVEN TO EACH TRUSTEE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT INDIVIDUAL BACKGROUND. AND THEN SHE PROVIDED A ROUGH TIMELINE OR MAYBE A SAMPLE TIMELINE DURING THAT DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD IN OUR JUNE SPECIAL MEETING, TRUSTEES HAD SOME QUESTIONS, SPECIFICALLY MS. STANLEY HAD A QUESTIONS ABOUT BEING ABLE TO SORT OF LOOK OUT AND SEEING WHAT OTHER OPTIONS WERE OUT THERE.
AND SHE HAD DONE SOME RESEARCH.
AND SO I ASKED HER TO BRING THAT TO THE BOARD AND WE COULD KIND OF CONTINUE TO TALK OR HAVE THIS DISCUSSION SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT GOING FORWARD, WE DO OUR WORK TO DEVELOP OUR GOALS AS A BOARD, THINGS THAT WE WANT TO SEE MOVING FORWARD, SETTING UP PROGRESS MEASURES, CONSTRAINTS AND ALL THAT SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, HAVE WHAT TRULY REFLECTS WHAT WHAT OUR DESIRES ARE AS IT RELATES TO THAT.
SO MS. STANLEY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU FIRST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GIVE SOME CONTEXT FOR THE DESIRE TO LOOK OUTWARD AND THEN KIND OF GO INTO WHAT YOU'VE RESEARCHED. OH, SURE.
SO. SO I HAD JUST LOOKED SO I HAD ASKED AROUND AND MY STRUGGLE WAS WITH THE ORGANIZATION THAT WAS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, SO WITH A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION IN ITSELF, IT'S AN ORGANIZATION WITH A PURPOSE OR OR AN AGENDA.
AND SO I WHAT I DID WAS I WENT ONLINE AND I DID SOME RESEARCH TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WHAT THEY SAY THEY'RE ABOUT AND WHAT THEIR SAY.
AND WHEN I WENT TO THEIR WEBSITE, THEY'RE ALL ABOUT THE EDUCATION.
BUT IT WAS VERY MUCH SLANTED INTO IT WASN'T ABOUT ALL KIDS.
IT WAS REALLY ABOUT DISSECTING IT INTO THE DIFFERENT ETHNICITIES.
AND SO I WOULD RATHER US LOOK AT A COMPANY THAT IS FOR PROFIT, QUITE FRANKLY, THAT THEIR ONLY AGENDA IS JUST TO LOOK AT DATA.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.
SO WHEN YOU WENT THROUGH THE WEBSITE, THEY IT JUST GOES ON AND ON.
I MEAN, I COULD READ THROUGH THE WEBSITE, DID ANYBODY READ ANY PARTS OF THE WEBSITE? YEAH, I LOOKED INTO THEIR DIFFERENT FUNDINGS AND THEIR FUNDINGS WERE THE EXACT SAME THING, I MEAN, IT'S ALL FUNDING BASED ON ORGANIZATIONS, RACIAL JUSTICE ORGANIZATIONS, SOCIAL JUSTICE ORGANIZATIONS.
THAT'S IT, JUST THEY THEY JUST IT WAS IT WASN'T A WELL-ROUNDED ORGANIZATION TO ME, SO THAT'S WHERE MY HEARTBURN LAYS.
I DID GET I DID GET A NUMBER, BUT DO WE HAVE A BUDGET ITEM FOR THIS? THAT WAS ANOTHER THING I HAD A QUESTION AS I WAS THINKING MORE ABOUT IT.
I MEAN, DO WE BUDGET FOR A CONSULTANT TO COME IN AND DO OUR? DR. RINGO, COULD YOU GO INTO WHAT BOARD BUDGET LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT WE CAN AFFORD THOSE EXPENSES WITH? YES, GREAT QUESTION.
I WILL DEFER TO MS. HOGAN FOR THE SPECIFICS ON THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT I CAN ANSWER.
THERE ARE BUDGET DOLLARS THAT ARE BUILT INTO THE BUDGET FOR THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
WHEN I SAID I'D DEFER TO MS. HOGAN, I DON'T REMEMBER THE DETAIL OF THAT NUMBER AT THIS POINT, BUT I CAN GET THAT TO THE BOARD.
I WILL NOT INFER MS. HOGAN ON THE ASPECT THAT THERE ARE NOT DOLLARS THAT WE DO HAVE DOLLARS WITHIN THE BOARD OF TRUSTEE BUDGET, THAT AS WE PROGRESS THROUGH THE YEAR AND THE BOARD SEES FIT AND THOSE NEEDS MS. HOGAN DOES ALLOCATE THOSE DOLLARS THROUGH ACQUISITION TO MAKE THAT OCCUR.
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BUT IT WOULD NOT IMPACT OR INCREASE OUR CURRENT BUDGET.AND WHO HAVE WE USED IN THE PAST? THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME.
WE'VE HAD CONSULTANTS ON AN AS NEED BASIS WHEN WE'VE DEEMED OR THE PRESIDENT LED AN INITIATIVE, THAT WE NEEDED SOME HELP, BUT CONSULTANT FEES ARE ALWAYS.
AND DO WE NOT FEEL THAT WE HAVE ANYONE ON STAFF WHO CAN GIVE US THE REPORTING THAT WE FEEL WE NEED THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE? SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, AND I COULD BE WRONG, I DON'T THINK THAT WE'VE EVER HAD A GOVERNANCE COACH PER SAY.
IS THAT THE. SPECIFIC, SPECIFIC, SPECIFIC CONSULTANT.
BUT I THOUGHT THE QUESTION WAS, HAS THE BULLET USED CONSULTANTS BEFORE? THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I'M MOVING ON TO MULTIPLE QUESTION.
BUT I'M SAYING I ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.
YEAH. BUT MY QUESTION WAS, HAVE WE USED OTHER WHO HAVE WE USED IN THE PAST AND YOU SAID THAT WE HADN'T DONE THIS BEFORE.
YEAH. WE HAVE NOT HIRED A GOVERNANCE COACH TO HELP.
AND THEN DO WE NOT FEEL THAT WE HAVE ANYONE ON STAFF WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO PERFORM THE REPORTING BY THE REPORTING THAT WE FEEL WE WOULD NEED? SO. MY ANSWER TO THAT EXCUSE ME, IS THAT TO ME THAT'S A SEPARATION OF GOVERNANCE.
STAFF IS DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS.
SO FOR US TO KEEP IT WHAT WE SAY WE WANT TO DO THAT IS NOT A STAFF FUNCTION.
THAT DOES NOT MEAN WHENEVER GOALS ARE SET, IT IS A STAFF THAT PROVIDES THE DATA.
BUT THE GOAL SETTING IS MORE THAN I THINK DATA IS ACTUALLY SETTING THE GOALS.
AND ONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE'VE USED REPEATEDLY SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD HAS ALWAYS BEEN WE'VE USED TASB TEXAS ALLIANCE OF SCHOOL BOARDS ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT OCCASIONS. AND SO THEY USUALLY ARE THE GO TO.
BUT OVER THE YEARS, THERE ARE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE DEVELOPED OR BEEN CREATED TO ASSIST IN THAT PROCESS BECAUSE TASB COULDN'T CARRY THE LOAD OF ALL OF THE THOUSAND PLUS DISTRICTS NEEDING ASSISTANCE.
MR. JOHNSON. I MEAN, I GUESS THAT WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS KIND OF ABOUT WHERE WE LEFT OFF AFTER THE SPECIAL MEETING A LITTLE BIT.
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE SET ON WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED A CONSULTANT AT ALL YET ON WITH RESPECT TO THE BOARD GOAL, BE AT THIS PARTICULAR ONE OR ANY OF THEM.
I THINK THE PRESENTATION WE JUST HAD, I MEAN, THERE'S A THERE'S A COUPLE ITEMS OF A CONCERN I HAVE ABOUT THIS, BUT WE JUST HEARD ANYTHING WE DO RIGHT NOW IS GOING TO BE BUILT UPON FLAWED AND FAULTY DATA.
ANYTHING WE DO. I MEAN, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR STUDENTS ACTUALLY TOOK STAAR? LIKE SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT? NO. OK, THAT'S BETTER THAN I THOUGHT, BUT IT'S STILL OVER 10 PERCENT.
DOUBLE DIGIT PERCENTAGE OF OUR POPULATION DIDN'T EVEN TAKE IT.
AND WE JUST HEARD MS. JOYNER SAY THAT THE PEOPLE WHO DID A LOT OF THEM BLEW IT OFF.
SO WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO THIS YEAR IF WE'RE IF WE'RE GOING TO SCRAPE OUR BOARD GOALS THAT WE'VE HAD FOR YEARS AND BUILD A NEW HOUSE, WE'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING IT WITH WITH UNRELIABLE DATA.
MY OPINION, THIS IS WES JOHNSON, I AS WE LEARNED IN LOAN STAR [INAUDIBLE], ANYTHING WE DO THIS YEAR AND WE GOT TO YES, WE HAVE TO RESET OUR GOAL FOR THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE CAN'T GO IN WITH THE GOALS WE HAVE NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT THEY DON'T WORK IN A POST COVID ENVIRONMENT. BUT I HONESTLY LOOK AT THIS YEAR AS WE NEED TO SET A GOAL FOR THE NEXT YEAR AND THE NEXT YEAR ONLY.
AND THEN AFTER WE HAVE A YEAR OF FACE TO FACE SCHOOL WITH NORMAL PARTICIPATION IN STAAR, NORMAL PARTICIPATION IN MAP, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A THE ACTUAL REAL DATA THAT WE CAN RELY UPON FOR THE NEXT FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS.
AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT UNTIL AFTER WE HAVE THE NEXT ACADEMIC YEAR.
SO WE DO NEED TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING SO WE CAN EVALUATE THE SUPERINTENDENT SO WE CAN DO OUR JOB THAT WE HAVE TO DO FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
BUT I DON'T WANT TO ENGAGE IN, QUITE FRANKLY, BUILDING A BRAND NEW SYSTEM OF GOVERNANCE ON FLAWED DATA, BECAUSE I HOPE THAT WHENEVER WE DO SET OUR NEXT GOALS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE GOOD FOR ANOTHER HALF DECADE OR SO.
AND IF WE SET OUR GOALS NOW AND WE FIND OUT NEXT MAY, OH, MAN, SITUATION'S BETTER THAN WE
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THOUGHT AND WE BUILT IT ALL ON THE BAD, THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE RIGHT BACK IN THE SITUATION AGAIN.AND WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS WHOLE TORTURED EXERCISE TWO YEARS IN A ROW.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT.
WE NEED AN INTERIM BOARD GOAL FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
IN MY OPINION, OUR EXISTING GOALS WILL WORK FOR THAT.
WE JUST NEED TO CHANGE THE VALUES FOR EACH OF THEM TO SUIT THE RIGHT ENVIRONMENT.
WE CAN HAVE A WORKSHOP TO DO THAT.
WE CAN RELY ON OUR STAFF TO PRESENT THE DATA THAT WE HAVE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THAT GOAL. THAT'S HOW WE DID IT BEFORE WITH LARRY LEADING THE CHARGE ON THAT.
AND THEN WE CAN HAVE A MORE ROBUST DISCUSSION AFTER WE HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF WHERE WE ARE AS A DISTRICT COMING NEXT YEAR WITH REAL RELIABLE DATA, SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T HAD NOW FOR EIGHTEEN MONTHS.
AND IT'S GOING TO BE ALMOST THREE YEARS BY THE TIME WE GET IT TO COME UP WITH A MORE PERMANENT SOLUTION. I PERSONALLY LIKE THE GOALS WE HAVE.
I PERSONALLY SEE THAT WE HAD A DISTRICT THAT BY ANY MEASURE OF THE PEOPLE WHO I HAVE COME TO TRUST AND MANAGE, LIKE KIM CADDELL, LIKE RICK LOPEZ, THAT THE YEAR BEFORE WE HAD THE A THROUGH F ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM, THEY SAID WE WOULD HAVE BEEN A C DISTRICT.
AND ALL THESE SAME PEOPLE YOU SEE THE FIRST TIME WE GET IT, WE WEREN'T C, WE WERE LOW B, THEN WE WERE A HIGH B AND ALL THE SAME PEOPLE SAID IF WE JUST WOULD HAVE HAD THE STAAR TEST IN 2020, WE WOULD HAVE PROBABLY BEEN AN A DISTRICT.
IT WORK THAT SO I THINK IT'S SHOWN IT WORKS AND I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY WHY WE NEED TO TO TEAR IT DOWN AND BUILD IT BACK UP AGAIN.
THAT BEING SAID, I THINK I'M FINE WITH HAVING THAT DISCUSSION, BUT WE CAN'T HAVE IT BASED ON THIS. SHE JUST TOLD US WE CAN'T RELY ON THIS.
LIKE LARRY LIKE LARRY POINT OUT, WE'RE NOT EVEN USING THE SAME MEASURES AND STANDARDS WE ALWAYS HAVE BECAUSE WE CAN'T.
I MEAN, SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR IS TAKE OUR EXISTING GOALS, CHANGE OUR VALUES SETS FOR THE DATA SETS THAT WE HAVE FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S A REALISTIC BUT CHALLENGING GOAL FOR THIS MAN TO MEET THAT WE CAN GO FORTH, EVALUATE HIM, EVALUATE OUR PROGRESS FOR THIS YEAR AND THEN NEXT SUMMER.
AND LISTEN TO WHAT I'M SAYING.
NEXT SUMMER, WE'LL SIT DOWN AND WE'LL REALLY TAKE AS MUCH TIME AS WE NEED TO TO COME UP WITH WHAT WE THINK IS RIGHT FOR THE NEXT HALF DECADE.
AND AS YOU KNOW, THESE TIMES LIKE THIS, I HOPE NOBODY HESITATES TO SAY WHAT IT IS THEY NEED TO SAY OR WANT TO SAY OR FEEL TO SAY.
THERE IS NO BAD COMMENT AND NO BAD ANSWER.
AS YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS TOO, REALLY THE ONLY THING I WANTED OUT OF A CONSULTANT WAS JUST KIND OF THE STRUCTURE OF HOW TO PUT TOGETHER THAT LONGER TERM GOAL SETTING AND THE STRUCTURE THAT GOES WITH FOLLOWING A TIMELINE OR AN AGENDA OR WHATEVER THE THE PREPARED STUFF.
I THINK IN THE PAST, THE BOARD HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF PUTTING DOWN ON PAPER WHAT THEY WANT. WE PROBABLY COULD DO WE COULD PROBABLY REFINE HOW MUCH TIME WE SPEND MONITORING IT AND HOW OFTEN WE SPEND MONITORING IT.
AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO.
I'M REALLY PRETTY MUCH IN LOCKSTEP WITH WITH WES ON, YOU KNOW, I THINK AT THIS POINT, HAVING THOUGHT ABOUT IT NOW FOR OVER A MONTH, I THINK I'M MORE IN FAVOR OF US HAS TAKEN WHAT WE'VE GOT. LET'S REFINE IT AND CHANGE IT, CHANGE THE METRICS ON IT, AND THEN LET'S DECIDE HOW OFTEN AND HOW LONG AND HOW MUCH WE WANT TO MEASURE IT.
AND LET'S CONVEY THAT TO STAFF.
SO IT'S CLEAR THAT THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE.
WE WANT TO SPEND MORE TIME ON MEASURING OUR PROGRESS.
IF THERE'S TIMES DURING THE YEAR THAT WE NEED TO DRILL DOWN SOME, WE TALK ABOUT DISAGGREGATED DATA AND A BUNCH OF STUFF LIKE THAT, WHICH IS PROBABLY NOT A BAD IDEA.
BUT WE CAN DO THAT WITH THE STRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE WITH THE GOAL STRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE.
SO I'M YOU KNOW, THE ONE THING I WANT TO DO IS I WANT US TO GET A CONSENSUS ON SOMETHING SO I CAN SCHEDULE A MARATHON GOAL SETTING SESSION THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY JUST WORK ON THE GOALS, THE MATH, THE EXPECTATIONS, LAY IT OUT, GET IT ON A TIMELINE AND GET IT TO DR.
LOPEZ SO HE CAN CONVEY IT TO THE REST OF THE TEAM BEFORE THE YEAR GETS AWAY FROM US.
SO IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR OUR STAFF AND PEOPLE TO KNOW WHAT GOALS WERE IMPORTANT TO THE BOARD GOING FORWARD.
AND I THINK THOSE GOALS ARE THINGS THAT WILL PROBABLY HAVE A LITTLE WE PROBABLY WON'T SPEND AS MUCH TIME ON THE GOALS AS WE SPENDING TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONSULTANT OR NOT.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO BE SPENDING OUR TIME.
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SO FOR ME, I'M KIND OF LOCKSTEP WITH WITH WES, I REALLY THINK WE CAN WE CAN RESOLVE WHAT WE NEED TO RESOLVE WITH OUR CURRENT STRUCTURE.I LIKE IT. LIKE I SAID, I WATCHED THE PROGRESS ON IT UNTIL COVID INTERRUPTED US.
WE WERE HEADED DOWN A GOOD PATH.
WE HAD ONE BOARD MEMBER THAT REALLY WANTED TO RAISE THE NUMBERS BECAUSE WE WERE GETTING THERE TOO FAST AND TOO EASY.
AND AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT WAS RIGHT OR.
YEAH, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT WAS RIGHT OR WRONG.
I'M JUST SAYING I FELT LIKE THE SHIP WAS MOVING.
AND YEAH, OBVIOUSLY THIS YEAR WE'RE KIND OF STOPPED DEAD IN THE WATER FOR A WHILE.
BUT WHAT I'M MOST ANXIOUS ABOUT, MOST EXCITED ABOUT IS OUR ACADEMIC RECOVERY PLAN.
AND IF WE WANT TO INCORPORATE SOME MEASURES THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT ACADEMIC RECOVERY PLAN AND HOW THAT'S BEEN IMPLEMENTED AND HOW EFFECTIVE THAT'S BEING, THEN WE CAN ADD THAT TO OUR CURRENT GOAL SETTING.
I THINK THAT'S OUR OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
BUT I REALLY I'M REALLY I THINK I WOULD RATHER JUST PROCEED, HAVE THE BOARD SET A DATE, LOOK AT OUR ONE GOAL AND 10 OBJECTIVES, REFINE THEM, MAYBE ADD ONE FOR OR TWO IN OUR ACADEMIC RECOVERY MODEL AND THEN CLEARLY COMMUNICATE THAT TO DR. LOPEZ. MS. GRIFFIN.
I'M REALLY CONFUSED BECAUSE WE AS A BOARD HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WE NEEDED TO DO THIS AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN IT DONE.
SO I'M I'M CONCERNED OF WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET IT DONE? WE START TALKING ABOUT IT IN JANUARY AND WE'RE SITTING WITH NOTHING.
AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW ARE WE COMMITTED TO GETTING IT DONE? I THINK THE PREVIOUS GOALS AT THIS POINT DOES NOT WORK WITH WHERE WE ARE, BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN IS AN ACADEMIC RECOVERY PLAN WITH A REORG AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY ALIGNMENT OF THAT.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO MEASURE ON THE ACADEMIC RECOVERY PLAN, TO ME, THAT'S WHERE THE MEET SHOULD BE IN IN WHERE WE NEED TO IMPROVE OUR KIDS.
SO I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON OUT THERE, BUT I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF COMPETING GOALS AND WE HAVE A LOT OF COMPETING THINGS THAT'S GOING ON.
MY CONFUSION IS WHAT'S ON FIRST? AND THEN WHAT IS THE IMPORTANT THING THAT WE ARE BASICALLY GOING TO MEASURE? SO EVERY TIME WE GET TO THIS POINT, WE'RE JUST TALKING IN CIRCLES BECAUSE I HAVE MY CONCEPT. EVERYONE ELSE HAS THEIR OWN CONCEPT.
SO WHY DO WE HAVE DIFFERENT CONCEPTS WITH WHAT WE ARE BASICALLY TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH? SO IF THE MISSION FOR 2021, 2022 IS ACADEMIC RECOVERY, I MEAN WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN AND WHAT DOES THAT TRANSLATE TO? AND I THINK WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS.
AND WHAT I HOPE I DON'T HEAR THIS SCHOOL YEAR IS THAT EVERYTHING IS BASED ON WHAT THE BOARD SAID AND HERE THE BOARD GOALS, BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK.
I MEAN, EVEN IF WE LOOK IN OUR AGENDAS AND WE TIE THINGS BACK TO BOARD GOALS, THAT'S A LOOSE TIE. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO ACADEMIC RECOVERY, WE GOT TO BE FOCUSED AND SINCERE.
SO WHAT DOES ACADEMIC RECOVERY ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE AND WHAT WILL WE KNOW WHETHER THE ACADEMIC RECOVERY REALLY WORKED? AND THAT'S WHERE I'M CONFUSED WITH THAT.
AND THEN WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH SOME GOALS THAT ARE IN PREEXISTENCE.
THANK YOU, MS. GRIFFIN, MR. BEACH.
YES, MS. GRIFFIN, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
ALSO, MS. STANLEY THANK YOU FOR THE RESEARCH YOU DID.
I TOO I KNOW THAT WHEN I LEFT AS PRESIDENT OF THIS BOARD, I SAID I GAVE A SPEECH ABOUT LOOKING THROUGH DIFFERENT LENSES.
AND TODAY WE ARE LOOKING THROUGH A DIFFERENT LENS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING INTO A SCHOOL YEAR THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.
BUT OUR NUMBER ONE GOAL AND PRIORITY AS A SCHOOL BOARD IS MAKE SURE THAT WE GET SCHOOL STARTED IN A RIGHT TRACK AND SEE WHAT THESE KIDS ARE GOING TO DO.
LET'S SEE THESE SHOVELS THE TEACHERS ARE GOING TO BRING TO SCHOOL AND DIG OUT HOLE AND WATCH THEM GO TO WORK.
AND I THINK THAT WE'LL GET THOSE RESULTS AFTER THAT FIRST SIX WEEKS OF SCHOOL.
WHEN YOU GET THE MAPS, WE'LL START GETTING SOME DATA THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO DEVELOP SOME
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THINGS. THEN WE CAN GO BACK AND ADJUST WHAT WE NEED TO DO.AS FAR AS BOARD GOES, I KNOW THAT LARRY WAS ADAMANT WHEN HE WAS TALKING AND I AGREED WITH HIM ON.
WE HAD THE FOLD OUT, LITTLE FOLD OUT THAT WE USED THAT EXPLAINED OUR GOALS OR WHATNOT.
YEAH. DOES IT NEED TO BE TWEAKED? YOU BET IT DOES. BUT I THINK THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE RIGHT NOW AND WE WERE BEING SUCCESSFUL WITH IT.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO DO CHANGING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE FIXING TO START SCHOOL IN TWO WEEKS. AND I THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO BE READY TO GO AND WE OUGHT TO FOCUS THERE AND WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE.
LET'S USE IT TO THE FULLEST AND NOT WORRY ABOUT THAT AS A BOARD, BECAUSE I KNOW WE ALL KNOW ABOUT GOVERNANCE AND WE ALL WANT THAT.
BUT LET'S DON'T BEAT EACH OTHER UP OVER SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO STRIVE FOR AND IT'S GOING TO COME OUT GOOD.
BUT LET'S GET THE DATA AND THE SUPPORT THAT WE NEED FIRST.
BUT THE MAIN THING IS LET'S LET OUR TEACHERS GET OUT THERE AND THEY'RE GOING TO SHOW US AND THE LEADERSHIP OF THE SCHOOL THAT THE PRINCIPALS, THEY'RE GOING TO PROVE TO US WHAT WE CAN WRITE DOWN IS GO FOR DR.
LOPEZ AND THEN HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO PROVE THAT HE CAN STAND UP TO IT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. BEACH. I GUESS THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD IN THE SPECIAL MEETING IN JUNE WAS THAT OUR GOAL WAS TO CREATE MORE OF A FRAMEWORK FOR HOW WE SET OUR GOALS AND THEN PUT SOME VISIONARY PRACTICES IN PLACE SO THAT WE HAVE A GUIDEPOST TO WHERE WE'RE GOING. I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED, LIKE MS. GRIFFIN, BUT IN A DIFFERENT WAY BECAUSE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO USE THE DATA THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, BUT YET WE'RE GOING TO USE THE SAME GOALS THAT DON'T WORK FOR THE TIME THAT WE'RE IN.
AND SO I'M NOT YET ABLE TO RESOLVE THAT IN MY HEAD AS IT RELATES TO WHY ARE WE STILL USING GOALS THAT DON'T APPLY? AND WE'RE GOING TO TWEAK THEM.
TWEAK THEM TO WHAT? TO GET WHAT? I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE KEEP THE SAME NUMBERS, I'M SAYING WE KEEP THE SAME DOMAINS, WE HAVE TO TWEAK THE NUMBERS.
THE NUMBERS DON'T WORK ANYMORE.
OK. THE NUMBERS WERE ON A SIX YEAR PLAN THAT WE'RE IN YEAR FIVE AND WE JUST WENT BACK BEFORE YEAR ONE.
AGAIN. SO WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION.
WE'RE DOING THINGS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE DID BEFORE WHEN WE ESTABLISHED THOSE GOALS. AND IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY, THOSE WEREN'T GOALS THAT WE SAT AROUND THE ROOM.
AND AS THE GROUP OF US, WE DECIDED WE GOT SOME INFORMATION FROM ADMINISTRATION AND WE MADE SOME TWEAKS TO THOSE THOSE NUMBERS AND THEN THAT KIND OF GOT SHARED AS THESE ARE THE GOALS. SO I GUESS WHAT MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT WE'LL FIND OURSELVES USING THOSE GOALS AND TRYING TO APPLY THEM TO A NEW SITUATION WITH A NEW ORGANIZATION THAT'S DOING DIFFERENT THINGS IN TERMS OF ACCELERATED RECOVERY.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT ALL FITS TOGETHER, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I GUESS MY CONFUSION LIES AND THE WHOLE POINT.
AT LEAST MY THOUGHT WHEN WE HAD THE DISCUSSION WITH HAVING A GOVERNANCE COACH WAS THAT THAT PERSON WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP GUIDE US THROUGH THE CONVERSATION AND HOW TO STRUCTURE BOARD GOALS. SO IT'S TRULY WHAT IT IS THAT WE WANT TO SEE GOING FORWARD AND PUTTING THOSE PROGRESS MEASURES IN PLACE, BOARD CONSTRAINTS AND CONSTRAINTS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE GOING FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN SEE THE KIND OF PROGRESS THAT WE WANT TO SEE SORT OF AS A GOALPOST. AND IF WE NEED TO DIAL IT BACK TO, YOU KNOW, INCREMENTS AND HOW FREQUENTLY WE NEED TO MONITOR THAT INFORMATION, THEN WE WOULD DO THAT.
BUT WE WOULD AT LEAST HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING AS A COLLECTIVE ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND HOW TO DO IT. SO THAT WAS MY PERSPECTIVE, MR. GLICK. YES, THANK YOU, SIR.
I WENT OVER IN SOME DETAIL LAST TIME HOW ALL THIS CAME ABOUT JOKINGLY ABOUT LAMINATING DOCUMENTS IN 2013 AND THEN IN 2015, THESE WERE NUMBERS THAT DIDN'T COME OUT OF THIN AIR.
THESE WERE NUMBERS WE HAD STARTED WORKING ON MUCH EARLIER, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WITH THE IDEA OF TRYING TO MIRROR OR BEAT REGION 10 AS A BENCHMARK.
SO AS WE APPROACH 2017, I SAT DOWN WITH DR.
CADDELL AND WE LOOKED AT WHAT WOULD ACTUALLY WORK IN TERMS OF A BROAD GOAL.
AND SO THESE NUMBERS DIDN'T COME OUT OF THIN AIR.
THEY CAME OUT OF TEST RESULTS.
THEY CAME OUT OF A DIRECTION WE WANTED TO GO AS A BOARD, KNOWING THAT THE LEGISLATURE WAS GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START GRADING US.
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THERE WAS TALK ABOUT THIS LONG BEFORE THAT, AND THEY DID.NOW, WHETHER WE LIKE GRADING, WHETHER WE LIKE TO HAVE OUR INDIVIDUAL CAMPUSES GRADED, WHETHER WE LIKE TO HAVE OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT GRADED, THAT'S HAPPENING.
EVEN DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION THIS YEAR, THERE WAS NO TALK ABOUT DOING AWAY WITH IT. EVERYBODY SAID, HEY, WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH IT, SO WE'RE GOING TO STAY WITH IT.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT'S INTERESTING IS AT THE END OF THE YEAR, AS MS. JOYNER AND I JUST DISCUSSED, WE'RE GOING TO BE JUDGED ON THOSE SAME NUMBERS.
WILL THE NUMBERS MAY BE LOWER? YES, BUT THEY'RE THE SAME SCORES THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE JUDGED ON, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE GOALS THAT EXIST NOW, WITH ONE EXCEPTION, BECAUSE READING IS GOAL, WRITING IS GOING AWAY, ALL THE OTHER EXISTING GOALS WILL BE JUDGED, WILL BE TESTED AND WE WILL BE SCORED ON.
SO I AGREE WITH WHAT MR. JOHNSON SAID WHAT MR. MILLER SAID AND MR. BEACH SAID, I THINK WE NEED TO STAY WITH WHAT WE HAVE.
IT WOULD BE RELATIVELY EASY TO TWEAK THEM.
BUT IF YOU TWEAK THEM TOO MUCH.
WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE MEASURED BY THE STATE, WE COULD WE COULD TAKE OUR READING AND SAY WE WANT TO TAKE IT WAY DOWN HERE.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THE STATE IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT.
WE JUST WENT TO A LESSER MEASURE TO TO SEE HOW WE'RE DOING, WHETHER WE AGREE WITH THAT OR NOT. WE USED A LESSER MEASURE, OK, AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO BE JUDGED.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO REWRITE ALL THESE GOALS.
THEY EXIST AND THEY MEASURE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE JUDGED ON AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT.
AND SO I WOULD I WOULD STAY THE SAME.
I WOULD LOOK AT THEM, TWEAK THEM AND GO FORWARD.
THAT'S MY POINT. THANK YOU, SIR.
I THINK WE'RE USING WORDS INNER CHANGEABLY.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS ON THIS BOARD IS SAYING THAT THOSE DOMAINS THAT EXIST RIGHT NOW AS OBJECTIVES, THAT WE WOULD NOT KEEP THOSE DOMAINS.
THE, THE DOMAINS REMAIN BECAUSE THOSE TEA GUIDELINES, AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE SAYING THAT AT ALL, THOSE DOMAINS OF ACADEMIC SUCCESS WOULD REMAIN THE SAME.
WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT TO COME UP WITH THE MEASUREMENTS IS, IS THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN BASICALLY RIGHT NOW.
BUT THE DOMAINS OF LITERACY, MATH, CCMR, GRADUATION RATES, I DON'T THINK ANYONE AROUND THIS TABLE IS SAYING THAT THOSE DOMAINS ARE GOING AWAY, BUT THE WAY IT'S CONSTRUCTED.
WE HAVE A ONE GOAL STATEMENT WITH ALL OF THE REQUIRED AND I'M NOT GONNA CALL THEM GOALS.
I'M A CALL THEM DOMAINS WITH MEASUREMENTS.
AND I'M NOT AT ALL SAYING THAT THOSE DOMAINS WOULD GO AWAY BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT'S BUILT INTO THE STATE ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM.
MR. JOHNSON. I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MS. GRIFFIN, BUT AND THIS ISN'T ANYTHING ABOUT PATRICIA WHO CAME AND SPOKE.
I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN TO LEADERSHIP ISD STUFF BEFORE.
I HAVE RESPECT FOR THEM AND HER, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT SHE WAS DESCRIBING.
WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS NOT WHAT SHE WAS DESCRIBING.
WHAT SHE WAS ENVISIONING WAS A FAR MORE RADICAL REWORK OF WHAT WE DO TO EVALUATE OUR DATA AND OUR GOALS THAN WE'RE KEEPING THESE DOMAINS AND WE'RE TWEAKING THE NUMBERS.
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING SOUNDS A LOT LIKE WHAT I'M SAYING, WHAT LARRY IS SAYING.
BUT WHAT SHE WAS SAYING WAS WE ONLY HAD THREE TO FIVE BOARD GOALS.
AND THEN THERE COULD BE SUB AGGREGATED INTO UP TO TWELVE SUB PARTS FOR EACH ONE.
THAT'S A VERY DIFFERENT THING THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.
AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO.
I JUST DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THAT WITH BASED ON WHAT WE GOT HERE.
I MEAN, ANYTHING WE DO THAT CHANGES HOW WE EVALUATE THIS, HOW WE CHANGE OUR DOMAINS OR THE SUBPARTS IS GOING TO BE REACTIVE.
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE STILL IN REACTION MODE.
YOU DON'T WANT TO SET LONG TERM GOALS WHEN YOU'RE IN YOU'RE IN REACTION MODE.
THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA.
IT'S NOT GOOD EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS YOU WANT TO GET OUT OF REACTION MODE.
THAT'S YOUR GOAL, YOUR GOAL RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT'S WHY I THINK AN INTERIM GOAL IS THE RIGHT KEY FOR THIS YEAR.
WE FIGURE OUT WITH THE GOOD NUMBER IS TO EVALUATE US WITH WHAT WE KNOW NOW.
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AND THAT'S IMPERFECT. BUT THAT'S WHY YOU ONLY HAVE A ONE YEAR SO YOU DON'T GET STUCK WITH IMPERFECT FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.AND THEN YOU COME BACK AND YOU SAY, WELL, MAYBE WE WANT TO LOOK AT SOMETHING MORE LIKE A MORE STRUCTURE LIKE WHAT SHE'S PROPOSING OR LIKE WHAT YOU GET WITH DISTRICTS THAT HAVE USED CONSULTANTS, NOT MAYBE NOT THAT CONSULTANTS, BUT OTHER CONSULTANTS.
MAYBE LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE OF THOSE ITEMS. PERSONALLY, I'M KIND OF WITH LARRY.
I THINK THAT WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WORKS.
I'LL LOOK AT SOME OTHER THINGS.
BUT RIGHT NOW, NO, RIGHT NOW I DON'T SEE HOW HOW GOING DOWN THAT ROAD BRING SOMEONE TO COME IN HERE AND AND SET CERTAIN BOUNDARIES AND AND GO DOWN THAT WAY.
THAT SEEMS LIKE SPINNING YOUR WHEELS AT A TIME WHEN WE DON'T NEED TO BE DOING IT.
OK, YOU'RE DIRECTING THAT QUESTION AT ME.
WHAT I TOOK WAS THAT YOU ARE SAYING THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING LONG TERM.
OK. WHAT I WAS QUESTIONING WAS WHAT LARRY SAID, THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE MEASURED ON. AND MY STATEMENT PREVIOUSLY WAS TO CHANGE THE WORDING FROM THOSE OBJECTIVES, TO CALL THEM DOMAINS.
AND SO I NEVER DEVIATED FROM THE DOMAINS AND I NEVER SET BASICALLY A TIME FRAME.
BUT WHAT WE KEEP USING INTERCHANGEABLY IS THE ONE STATEMENT.
AND THEN WE LOOK AT THE OBJECTIVES AND WE'RE STILL CALLING THAT A GOAL.
WHEN THAT WAS THE DOMAIN, THAT WAS MY ONLY EXPLANATION, HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE HEARD BEFORE. I WAS JUST TRYING TO BRING CLARITY TO THE ONE GOAL STATEMENT AND THEN BASICALLY THE OBJECTIVES UP UNDER IT, WHICH WE SHOULD REFER TO AS THE DOMAINS, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE ACCOUNTABILITY, THE STATE ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM IS MEASURED ON.
YES. AND I AND I AGREE, AND I THINK WE SHOULD USE THAT.
THE GOAL IS THE NUMBER AND THE DOMAIN IS WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.
AND EACH YEAR THAT GOAL CHANGES.
AND THEY WENT UP AND UP AND UP THERE.
WE'RE NOT SAYING BECAUSE WE CAN'T CHANGE WHAT THE STATE IS GOING TO MEASURE US ON.
AND TO ME, THOSE ARE THE DOMAINS IN THE OBJECTIVES THAT'S UNDER THE ONE GOAL STATEMENT.
ANYONE ELSE? SO IF I COULD JUST SUMMARIZE, I'M HEARING THAT THE BOARD IS IN FAVOR OF KEEPING WHAT WE HAVE AND MAKING TWEAKS TO THE NUMBERS.
I WOULD JUST MY TAKE ON IT IS AND WHEN WE LEFT THE PREVIOUS MEETING, WHAT WE REALLY WANTED TO DECIDE TODAY WAS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO USE A CONSULTANT OR WHERE WE'RE GOING OR NOT, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BOARD GOAL SETTING WHERE WE'LL DO THE REST OF THAT WORK. SO TO ME TONIGHT, ALL WE NEED TO KNOW IS ARE WE'RE GOING TO USE A CONSULTANT, ARE WE NOT? WHAT I HEAR, I THINK I'M WITH YOU.
I THINK I HEAR THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IT OURSELVES.
AND THEN LET'S GET IN THE ROOM WITH THE DATA WITH DR.
LOPEZ AND WHOEVER WE NEED FROM STAFF.
AND IN LET'S DRILL INTO THE NUMBERS, LOOK AT THE DATA SET WHERE WE ARE.
JUST ASSESS WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE WANT TO BE AND LET'S PUT THE NUMBERS WHERE WE WANT THEM. LIKE WES SAYS, IT'S MAYBE A ONE YEAR DEAL.
I DON'T KNOW. IT DEPENDS ON HOW WELL WE DO ACADEMIC RECOVERY.
YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY KNOWS WHEN YOU'RE IN A BATTLESHIP.
IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO TURN IT.
ONCE IT'S HEADED ONE DIRECTION, IT IS REALLY HARD TO TURN.
WE'VE EXPERIENCED THAT AT THE BANK.
ANY BANK I'VE EVER WORKED FOR CHANGING THE DIRECTION, ESPECIALLY IF IT WAS A BAD ONE, TAKES A WHILE. SO I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE CAN DO IS, IS FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR GOALS ARE GOING TO BE. NOT ONLY ARE WE GOING TO TO MEASURE THOSE AND ACCOUNT FOR THOSE, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE STAFF, THE PLAN, THE TEACHERS, THE PRINCIPALS, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN THIS EFFORT.
SO WE JUST GOT TO I THINK IN THIS NEXT MEETING, WHAT I'M REALLY HOPEFUL FOR AND I THINK WE WILL BECAUSE THIS BOARD IS SO RESPONSIVE, IS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GO IN THERE IF WE GET PAST THIS DISCUSSION, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT ON OUR OWN, LET'S DO IT ON OUR OWN, BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH VERY INTELLIGENT PEOPLE.
I GIVE KUDOS TO LARRY OR WHOEVER WORKED ON THIS DOCUMENT.
EVERYWHERE I'VE SHOWN IT AT EVERY TASB EVENT.
THEY WERE JUST THEY THOUGHT IT WAS THE BEST THING THEY'VE EVER SEEN BECAUSE IT HIT ALL THE DOMAINS AND IT GAVE STRUCTURE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO KNOW, BECAUSE WE NEED TO DO SOME GOAL
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SETTING. IT NEEDS TO BE IN A IN A FASHION.IT NEEDS TO BE SCHEDULED AND PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE AN AFTERNOON OR A DAY OR A MORNING OR WHATEVER WHERE WE CAN FOCUS ON ONE THING AND IT'S THE ONLY THING WE DO THAT DAY AND WE COULD COME OUT OF THERE WAS SOME KIND OF CONSENSUS, ESPECIALLY SOMETHING WE CAN RALLY AROUND AND SUPPORT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE VISION TO ME OF WHAT I HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH.
WHEN WE LEFT THE MEETING LAST TIME, I DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER WE WANTED TO CONSULTANT OR WHETHER WE DIDN'T. I THINK I'M HEARING TONIGHT WE THINK WE CAN AT LEAST GO THIS YEAR ON OUR OWN. WE'LL LOOK AT NEXT YEAR, NEXT YEAR.
EVERYBODY'S GOT AN OPEN MIND TO THAT.
SO GIVES US MORE TIME TO GO ABOUT A SELECTION PROCESS.
IF WE DO IT NEXT YEAR TOO, WHEN WE COULD START ON THAT, THAT CAN BE PART OF WHAT WE DO DURING THIS YEAR IS START WORKING ON THAT DECISION.
IF WE WANT TO HAVE A CONSULTANT FOR THE NEXT PERIOD, LET'S GO AHEAD AND START LINING UP HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK AND WE'LL BE READY TO ROLL EARLY IN THE SUMMER, NOT RIGHT BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS. SO BEING FAIR TO EVERYBODY INVOLVED, ROBERT? THAT'S WHAT I THINK I HEARD LAST TIME.
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING TODAY.
AND, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY.
I THINK WE KNOW HOW TO PROCEED.
MILLER JUST SHARED, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT WE WERE JUST GOING TO HAVE A BOARD GOAL DISCUSSION IN ADDITION TO DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO USE A CONSULTANT OR NOT. I THINK PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO SAY IT IS BASED ON TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION, I'LL GET WITH MS. HOGAN AND WE'LL START PLANNING THE NEXT SESSION.
I'LL GET WITH DR. LOPEZ AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THINGS WE NEED TO DO AND THE ARE THE THE SUPPORT WE'RE GOING TO NEED FOR THAT DAY AND TRY TO GET PEOPLE, MATERIALS AND DATA.
I'LL PROBABLY SEND OUT AN EMAIL TO EVERYBODY THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE WHEN WE GO TO THIS MEETING? WHAT DO YOU WANT TO HAVE IN THE ROOM OR DO YOU WANT TO HAVE IT AT YOUR FINGERTIPS? WE'LL GET THE DATA. WE'LL HAVE IT READY.
WE'LL HAVE SUPPORT PERSONNEL THERE.
AND I'M I'M FULLY CONFIDENT THAT THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE CAN COME UP WITH ANOTHER PIECE OF PAPER THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO COPY.
I MEAN, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES PEOPLE TRIED TO TAKE THIS FROM ME.
IT'S A VERY IMPRESSIVE DOCUMENT.
SO. WITH THAT, I GUESS, WHAT'S OUR TIME FRAME? JUST SO I CAN WE CAN PUT THAT OUT THERE.
ARE WE LOOKING TWO WEEKS OR MONTHS? ASAP. ASAP LIKE? YEAH, I NEED TO GET WITH MS. HOGAN AND LOOK AT OTHER CALENDAR CONFLICTS AND PROBABLY POLL THE BOARD TOO, TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT AVAILABILITY IS OUT THERE.
SOME PEOPLE, IT'S HARDER TO DO IT DURING THE WEEK.
SOME PEOPLE MIGHT BE BETTER FOR A SATURDAY.
SO LET ME LET US DO SOME POLLING AND THEN WE CAN GET BACK TO YOU WITH A LITTLE BETTER PLAN UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS A BETTER IDEA.
BUT THAT'S REALLY THAT'S REALLY WHAT I'M PLANNING TO DO, GOING FORWARD.
ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO ITEM B DISCUSS JUNE 15, 2021, SEMIANNUAL REPORT TO JUDGE ED KINKEADE, DR.
LOPEZ. WE'RE GOING TO BE SUBMITTING OUR SEMIANNUAL REPORT.
WE HAD TO INCLUDE SOME MODIFICATIONS IN THE MOST RECENT REPORT TO INCLUDE OUR OPEN ENROLLMENT CLAUSE. WE DO NOT HAVE OPEN ENROLLMENT NUMBERS.
THE PRELIMINARY REPORTS DO SHOW THAT WE WE WON'T HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON OUR DEMOGRAPHICS. AND WE ALSO ARE ANTICIPATING OUR GROWTH AREAS IN PRE-K AND KINDERGARTEN.
AND SO WE JUST REFLECTED MINOR CHANGES THAT WERE GOING ON THAT WAS NOTHING OF SUBSTANTIAL DEVIATION FROM YEARS PAST THAT WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT.
ANY QUESTIONS? MR. JOHNSON? I'VE LOOKED THROUGH THE TEXT OF THE REPORT, MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY THE DATA THAT'S BEING ATTACHED WITH RESPECT TO IT, BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANY MENTION ABOUT ANY EFFECTS THAT COVID AND VIRTUAL LEARNING HAD.
DO WE NOT THINK THAT ANY OF THAT IS RELEVANT WITH RESPECT TO THE ISSUES THAT ARE CONTAINED
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IN THE COURT ORDER, OR DID IT JUST NOT AFFECT ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE TO REPORT ON? MR. JOHNSON, IT DID NOT AFFECT ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO REPORT ON, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH OUR STUDENTS WERE SOMEWHAT VIRTUAL FOR MOST OF THE YEAR, WE HAD A GREAT MAJORITY OF STUDENTS. IT STILL INCLUDED OUR TOTAL ENROLLED STUDENTS.SO EVEN IF YOU WERE A VIRTUAL STUDENT DURING THIS COVID PANDEMIC, YOU STILL WERE COUNTED IN THIS REPORT. SO IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT EFFECT ON ANY OF THE ETHNICITY BANDS THAT ANY OF OUR SCHOOLS? NO, SIR, BECAUSE THE BANDS STILL ARE BY TOTAL ENROLLED STUDENTS AND EVEN OUR VIRTUAL STUDENTS WERE CONSIDERED ENROLLED.
SO SHOULD WE HAVE HAD A MASSIVE WITHDRAWAL BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE JUST RUNNING FROM EVERY TYPE OF LEARNING ENVIRONMENT, THEN WE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO REFLECT THAT, TO SAY OUR NUMBERS ARE DRASTICALLY SKEWED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
BUT SINCE OUR STUDENTS ARE STILL CONSIDERED VIRTUAL AND ENROLLED, IT DID NOT AFFECT OUR TOTAL ENROLLMENT NUMBERS, WHICH WE REPORT.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GOOD ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEMS SIX.
[VI. Items for July 2021 Regular Board Meeting]
THESE ARE GOING TO BE ITEMS FOR OUR JULY 2021 REGULAR BOARD MEETING THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ACTION ON. THE FIRST ONE IS CONSIDER AN APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION FOR NAACP BACK TO SCHOOL EVENT AT THE HOMER B JOHNSON STADIUM.DR. HEMPHILL. GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN SELDERS, PRESIDENT MILLER, TRUSTEES AND DR.
LOPEZ, AND THIS EVENING WE BROUGHT THIS ITEM, THE RESOLUTION WHICH YOU HAVE REGARDING THE GARLAND CHAPTER OF THE NAACP REQUEST TO USE THE HOMER B JOHNSON STADIUM FOR THE BACK TO SCHOOL EVENT. THIS EVENT IS SCHEDULED TO BE HELD ON AUGUST 28TH, 2021 FROM 8:00 A.M.
AND AS WE SAID, THEIR REQUEST IS TO USE OUR HOMER B JOHNSON STADIUM.
THE RESOLUTION THAT WE'RE PUTTING FORWARD IS JUST SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT THIS IS SERVING A PUBLIC PURPOSE AND THERE IS NO INCENTIVE OR MONETARY BENEFIT TO ANY OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PUTTING THIS FORWARD.
AND WE ARE USING THIS PUBLIC PUBLIC ARENA TO HOST THIS EVENT FOR THE SUPPORT OF OUR STUDENTS. IN THE PAST, THIS HAS BEEN HELD AT THE CURTIS CULWELL CENTER, AND THIS YEAR WE WILL BE HOLDING IT OUTSIDE.
AND ALL WE WILL BE DOING AT THE EVENT THIS YEAR IS GIVING OUT SCHOOL SUPPLIES.
AND WE AT THE NEXT MEETING ON THE 27TH, WE WOULD MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION.
DO THEY HAVE LIKE A BACKUP DATE IF IT RAINS? NO, SIR.
THERE IS NOT A BACKUP DATE ON TARGET.
WE HAVE HAD AND YOU NORMALLY THINK IN AUGUST, THAT'S NOT THAT BIG A THREAT.
BUT NORMALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF JULY, IT'S NOT THAT BIG A DEAL EITHER.
RIGHT. BUT I MEAN, I IT'S ALWAYS BEEN AT THE CULWELL CENTER, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WEATHER DOESN'T AFFECT. AND AND FIRST, I WANT TO THANK THE GARLAND UNIT OF THE NAACP LIKE THEY DO EVERY YEAR DOING THIS.
ONE OF THE GREATEST THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE FOR OUR STUDENTS.
AND SO I'M APPRECIATIVE ON BEHALF OF OUR COMMUNITY TO THEM FOR TAKING THIS ON.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE IF THEY DO WANT TO HAVE A BACKUP, THAT WE MAKE THE STADIUM AVAILABLE FOR ANY TIME THEY NEED IT.
AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. THANK YOU.
I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. MILLER.
HOW IS THIS AN EVENT THAT USED TO BE AT THE CULWELL CENTER? YES, YES.
I JUST GOT BACK. I JUST GOT HERE.
IT'LL BE A HUNDRED. SO WE ARE WORKING WITH.
HAVE Y'ALL ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS? NO. [LAUGHTER] WELL, LET ME COME UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE I'LL WORK ON IT.
I'LL GET BACK TO YOU. I'LL GIVE YOU A MINUTE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, DR. HEMPHILL. THANK YOU.
I THINK I'M THE NEXT ITEM AS WELL.
YEAH I WAS GONNA SAY YOU HAVE THE NEXT ITEM. NEXT, WE HAVE CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE 2021, 2022 STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT, DR.
HEMPHILL. SO GENERALLY, WHEN WE COME BEFORE YOU AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE THE COMPLETED CODE OF CONDUCT AND WE ALSO PRESENT TO YOU SIDE BY SIDE OF ANY OF THE CHANGES THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING. HOWEVER, THIS YEAR WE RECEIVED THE MODEL CODE OF CONDUCT LAST WEEK.
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WE DID NOT WANT TO RUSH AND PUT ANYTHING TOGETHER TO PUT IN FRONT OF YOU.SO WE WILL HAVE THAT DOCUMENT READY FOR YOUR REVIEW ON THURSDAY TO INCLUDE IN THE INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN HAVE IT APPROVED ON THE 27TH.
WE DO BEGIN SCHOOL ON AUGUST 2ND.
AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE AN APPROVED DOCUMENT READY TO GO AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. SO WE ARE WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK TO GET THOSE CHANGE DOCUMENTS TOGETHER FOR YOU AND TO HAVE THAT DOCUMENT READY FOR APPROVAL ON THE 27TH.
ANY QUESTIONS? MS. GRIFFIN. YES.
WOULD YOU JUST REMIND US OF WHERE YOU GET THE OFFICIAL MODEL FROM? SO THE OFFICIAL MODEL DOES COME FROM TASB.
AND IT WAS RELEASED, I WANT TO SAY, LAST MONDAY AT ABOUT 3:50.
WE RECEIVED THE ACCESS TO THE DOCUMENT TUESDAY MORNING AND STARTED READING THROUGH IT AND WORKING ON GETTING OUR CHANGES TOGETHER SO THAT WE COULD PRESENT THOSE TO YOU.
SO WE ARE JUST SLIGHTLY BEHIND.
ARE WE AT BUT AREN'T WE ASKING OUR STUDENTS OR OUR FAMILIES TO SIGN OFF ON THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT? SO WHAT THEY'RE WHAT THEY'RE SIGNING OFF ON IS WHETHER THEY WANT TO RECEIVE A PRINTED COPY IN THE FUTURE OR NOT.
THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO ONLINE AS SOON AS IT IS AVAILABLE TO LOOK THROUGH THAT DOCUMENT AND AND GIVE US THEY'RE JUST MAKE SURE THAT THEY.
NOT ASKING FOR THEIR APPROVAL BECAUSE.
OK, THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.
MR. GLICK. SO WE DON'T WE DON'T MAYBE THIS IS IN THE PAST THAT I REMEMBER.
WE DON'T HAVE TO GET THEIR SIGNATURES SAYING THEY RECEIVED IT ANY MORE? SO SINCE IT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE, ALL THEY'RE LETTING US KNOW IS WHETHER THEY WANT IT PAPER OR WHETHER THEY ARE FINE WITH THE ELECTRONIC COPY.
THAT THEY HAVE BECAUSE THEY CAN ACCESS IT.
AND I THINK WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE GIVING THEM THE LINK.
THERE HAVE BEEN SOME ISSUES WITH OUR BACK TO SCHOOL FORMS. SO. I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS, DON'T THEY ISN'T THERE SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY HAVE TO INDICATE THEY'VE THEY'VE GOTTEN IT AND ARE AWARE OF THE CONTENT? NOT ANYMORE. SO I BELIEVE THAT THAT THAT PIECE IS IN THERE AND THEY CAN GO ONLINE AND RECEIVE THAT. WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR RIGHT NOW IN THE CODE OF CONDUCT NOT EXCUSE ME, CODE OF CONDUCT, EXCUSE ME.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR RIGHT NOW IN THE IN THE BACK TO SCHOOL FORMS IS HOW YOU WANT THAT RECEIVED. OK, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, DR. HEMPHILL. THANK YOU.
THE THIRD ITEM THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE CONSIDERING FOR ACTION IN OUR JULY 27 MEETING IS CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION FOR CAMERAS IN SELF-CONTAINED CLASSROOM.
[INAUDIBLE]. YEAH. IT'S GOING TO BE DR.
I JUST WANT TO OFFICIALLY INTRODUCE DON'T WANT TO DO TWO THINGS.
FIRST, OFFICIALLY INTRODUCE DR.
BENTLEY PARKER AS OUR INTERIM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL EDUCATION.
DR. PARKER HAS BEEN A LOYAL GISD EMPLOYEE AND A VERY PASSIONATE, COURAGEOUS CHAMPION FOR CHILDREN. AND SO WE'RE VERY HONORED TO HAVE HIM SERVE AS INTERIM.
WE ARE NOT PUSHING OUR SEARCH.
WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW HIM TO CHARGE FORWARD AND WE HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE IN HIS LEADERSHIP.
ALSO, HE IS PRESENTING SOMETHING CALLED CAMERAS IN THE SELF-CONTAINED SPECIAL EDUCATION CLASSROOM. AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT I GIVE YOU CONTEXT ON WHY WE'RE DOING THIS.
THE LAW DOES NOT ALLOW A SUPERINTENDENT TO TURN ON A CLASSROOM, SPECIAL ED CLASSROOM CAMERA. IT HAS TO BE DONE BY OTHER PARAMETERS AND ON A DISTRICT AS BIG AS OURS.
IF WE HAD THAT MANDATE DONE BY THE BOARD, OK, THEN NO MATTER WHAT, THOSE CAMERAS WOULD ALWAYS BE ON, OK? AND THESE ARE CAMERAS THAT ARE IN SELF-CONTAINED WITH OUR MOST FRAGILE STUDENTS AND ALLOWS PARENTS TO LOG IN.
A LOT OF PARENTS AREN'T AWARE OF THESE LAWS.
A LOT OF PARENTS AREN'T AWARE OF THEIR RIGHTS.
AND SO WE DO HAVE CAMERAS INSTALLED IN THESE CLASSROOMS THAT ARE NOT TURNED ON.
SO JUST TO GIVE YOU CONTEXT ON WHERE WE'RE AT AND OUR BELIEF SYSTEM THAT EVERY CHILD MATTERS, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO DR.
BENTLEY TO TAKE US THROUGH THIS THIS INITIATIVE.
THANK YOU, DR. LOPEZ, COMMITTEE CHAIRPERSON SELDERS, COMMITTEE MEMBERS, TRUSTEES, DR.
LOPEZ, I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU THIS EVENING TO PRESENT YOU SOME INFORMATION ABOUT CAMERAS
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IN SELF-CONTAINED CLASSROOMS AND IN THE END, ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION THAT MS. RAY HAS PUT TOGETHER FOR YOU GUYS.TASB GUIDELINES ON CAMERAS ALONG WITH GISD, EHBAF LOCAL AND EHBAF LEGAL BOTH ALL THREE HAVE A SECTION IN THEM THAT SAYS CAMERAS CAN BE REQUESTED TO BE TURNED ON OR INSTALLED BY PARENTS, STAFF MEMBERS, PRINCIPALS, ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS OR THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES MAY REQUEST IN WRITING THAT THE DISTRICT INSTALL OR TURN ON VIDEO AND AUDIO RECORDING EQUIPMENT IN SELF-CONTAINED CLASSROOMS OR OTHER SELF-CONTAINED SETTINGS.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE 50 CLASSROOMS IN SELF-CONTAINED.
THE PURPOSE OF THOSE ARE TOOLS.
THE TOOLS TO KEEP OUR STUDENTS SAFE IS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FOR HAVING CAMERAS IN THE CLASSROOM. AND IT ALSO IS A TOOL TO HELP OUR TEACHERS AND OUR PARAPROFESSIONALS TO BE SAFE IN THE OCCURRENCE OF AN INCIDENCE HAPPENING.
THOSE CAMERAS ARE THERE AND CAN BE VIEWED AS THE SAFETY PROTOCOL FOR WHAT REALLY HAPPENED. CAMERAS ALSO PROVIDE EVIDENCE FROM THAT SELF-CONTAINED CLASSROOM IF SOMETHING UNEXPECTED OCCURRED.
PRESENTLY, WE HAVE 59 CAMERAS INSTALLED IN THIRTY THREE SCHOOLS.
THE RESOLUTION, THE RESOLUTION THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS THAT THE CAMERAS THAT ARE ALREADY INSTALLED, LOCATED IN SELF-CONTAINED CLASSROOMS, BE ACTIVATED, MAINTAINED AND OPERATED ON THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL.
21, 22 UNTIL THE FINAL DAY OF INSTRUCTION FOR THE SCHOOL YEAR 21, 22.
AND THEN IN THE COMING YEARS, WE WOULD COME BACK AND ASK FOR A NEW RESOLUTION.
IT CAN ONLY BE DONE ONE SCHOOL YEAR AT A TIME.
ANY QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY, MS. STANLEY. SO I JUST HAD A QUESTION, HAVE WE NOT DONE THIS BEFORE OR IS THIS SOMETHING WE USUALLY DO? SO THE BOARD HAS NOT HAD A RESOLUTION PUT TO IT TO TURN ON ALL THE CAMERAS AT ONE TIME. THE PROCESS IS, IS THAT A PRINCIPAL, AN AP OR PARENT CAN DO THIS.
BUT WE'RE SO LARGE NOW AND WE'RE GETTING SO MANY DIFFERENT SCHOOLS INVOLVED THAT IT'S OUR BELIEF THAT IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR YOU GUYS TO GRANT US PERMISSION TO TURN IT ON INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO THROUGH EACH INDIVIDUAL SCHOOL TO HAVE THAT REQUEST MADE.
THANK YOU. AND POINT OF CLARITY FOR THE ADDITIONAL CAMERAS.
THERE IS A BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT WOULD BE NEEDED OF ROUGHLY, I BELIEVE, ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS IF WE WERE TO ADD ALL ADDITIONAL CAMERAS THAT ARE PRESENTED IN THIS PRESENTATION. SO THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T DISCUSS THAT, BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE WHAT Y'ALL WERE GOING TO DO. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
GREAT CLARIFICATION QUESTION FOR THE FIFTY NINE ROOMS AT NO ADDITIONAL COST.
BUT IF WE WERE TO ADD FOR ALL REMAINING CLASSROOMS THAT WERE NOTED THAT ARE SELF-CONTAINED, WE WOULD HAVE ABOVE THE FIFTY NINE.
WE DO HAVE BUDGETED DOLLARS OR ROUGHLY TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY ONE THOUSAND AROUND THERE THAT OUR CURRENT SECURITY BUDGET TO SUPPORT THIS, BUT THE TOTAL COST TO GET IT IN ALL THE ROOMS THAT ARE SELF-CONTAINED, IT WOULD BE ROUGHLY FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND [INAUDIBLE] THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SO WE HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR AN AMENDMENT TO INCREASE THE EXPENDITURE BUDGET TO IF WE WERE TO DO THIS IN EVERY CLASSROOM THAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT ABOVE THE FIFTY NINE.
SO FOR THIS RESOLUTION PARDON ME, IT IS JUST FOR TURNING ON THE CAMERAS IN THE FIFTY NINE OR THIRTY THREE CLASSROOM.
FIFTY NINE, THIRTY THREE SCHOOLS.
FIFTY NINE CLASSROOMS. I'M SORRY. IT IS NOT FOR WHAT DR.
PARKER. WHAT'S THE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT OR THE ADDITIONAL NEED? YOU SAID WE HAVE THIRTY THREE CLASSROOMS. FIFTY NINE CAMERAS. WHAT'S THE OVER AND ABOVE.
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I HAVE THAT INFORMATION, MR. SELDERS.THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL EIGHTY SEVEN CAMERAS.
WELL, AND THEN HOW MANY CLASSROOMS DOES THAT COMPRISED OF? I'M SORRY, IT IS EIGHTY-SEVEN SPECIAL EDUCATION CLASSROOMS, NOT EIGHTY-SEVEN CAMERAS, I APOLOGIZE. SO 87 CLASSROOMS AND THEN HOW MANY CAMERAS? IT LOOKS LIKE 132.
THANK YOU. CAN I ASK A QUESTION HERE? YES, MR. BEACH. CURRENTLY, WE DON'T HAVE THOSE CAMERAS IN PLACE.
I GUESS. SO WOULD OUR MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT BE INSTALLING THOSE? SO.
OUR SECURITY TEAM HAS A CONTRACT IN PLACE FOR THE VENDOR WHO'S INSTALLED THESE CAMERAS.
SO PROCEEDING IF WE WERE TO PROCEED WITH ALL REMAINING CLASSROOMS IN THE AUGUST BOARD OF TRUSTEE, BOARD OF TRUSTEE MEETING, WE WOULD COME BACK TO THE BOARD TO INCREASE THOSE CONTRACTS AND TO AMEND THE BUDGET TO COVER ALL REMAINING CLASSROOMS AND CURRENT CLASSROOMS. BUT FOR THE ONES WE'RE ASKING FOR TONIGHT, THERE WOULD BE NO ADDITIONAL COST MR. BEACH. THAT'S CORRECT.
FOR THE CAMERAS CURRENTLY IN PLACE, MR. BEACH OUR SERVERS, OUR SERVER CAPACITY AND THE CAMERAS WOULD JUST BE TURNED ON AND WE WOULD BE COMPLIANT. THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY ADDITIONAL COST FOR THAT.
AND JUST FOR CLARITY FOR THE BOARD, ADDITIONAL RESOLUTION WOULD HAVE TO BE FOR ALL NEW CAMERAS. WE CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR THE CAMERAS INSTALLED.
WE CANNOT PROJECT OUT AND SAY AND TO COVER ANY FUTURE CAMERAS AND TEST, IT'S VERY SPECIFIC IN THE LAW, THEY HAVE TO BE INSTALLED AND READY TO GO.
MR. MILLER. JUST ALONG THAT LINE.
HOW ARE THE IS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE TO HANDLE THAT MANY ADDITIONAL CAMERAS AND WHO ARE HOUSING, MONITORED? THE DISTRICT WILL HAVE TO AS PART OF THE CAMERA PURCHASE.
WE WILL ALSO GET STORAGE UNITS THAT GO WITH THOSE CAMERAS.
SO THAT WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF.
THE SECURITY DEPARTMENT HAS THOSE.
WE HAVE A PERSON THAT IS DESIGNATED AS THE CONTACT WITH THE GROUP THAT DR.
RINGO WAS TALKING ABOUT WHO WORKS WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE INSTALLATIONS ARE IN PLACE. AND THAT'S THE PERSON THAT TURNS THEM ON AFTER THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS ARE MADE . SO IS THE MONITORING DONE AFTER THE FACTOR OR IS IT LIVE? WELL, IT THE RECORDING IS DONE LIVE, BUT THE VIEWING IS DONE AFTER THE FACT.
IF THERE WERE AN INCIDENT, WE COULD REFER BACK TO THE TAPE.
YES, SIR. IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE REVIEWING A LIVE VERSION OF A CLASSROOM TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AT THAT MOMENT SO THAT WE CAN GO BUST IN THROUGH THE DOORS.
YES, SIR. OK, AND THEY CAN WE KEEP THEM UP TO THREE MONTHS AND THEY CAN REQUEST THAT ANY TIME TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT A SPECIFIC DAY AND PERIOD OF TIME AND SEE IF WE HAD AN INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED THERE.
EVERYTHING IF WE WERE IF WE WERE DOING IT LIVE.
IT IS JUST A RECORDING DEVICE THAT WE REVIEW UPON NEED THEN I UNDERSTAND.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, DR.
NEXT ITEM IS THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, DR.
LOPEZ. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION? WE HAVE NO ITEMS FOR EXECUTIVE, SIR.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT? IT IS 7:34 AND THE DISTRICT AFFAIRS COMMITTEE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
HEY.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.