Apr 12, 2022 Finance and Audit Committee Meeting

ON A STUDENT'S.

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[I. Call to Order and Determination of Quorum (Part 1 of 2) ]

THIS MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER.

A QUORUM IS PRESENT.

THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE MEETING WE HELD YESTERDAY THAT WAS CALLED TO ORDER.

[III. Superintendent's Message]

WE FOLLOW VERY CLOSELY BOTH ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER AND THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

LET ME QUOTE FROM THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.0411 A.

IF BOARD RECESSES AN OPEN MEETING TO THE FOLLOWING REGULAR BUSINESS DAY, THE BOARD IS NOT REQUIRED TO POST NOTICE OF THE CONTINUED MEETING IF THE ACTION IS TAKEN IN GOOD FAITH AND NOT TO CIRCUMVENT GOVERNMENT CODE 551.

SO WITH THAT, WE'LL GO BACK TO ITEM B ONE, WHICH WAS THE DISCUSSION ITEM, DISCUSS, PAY, RAISE SCENARIOS.

MR. MILLER, YOU WERE SPEAKING AT THE TIME WHEN I HAD THE FEELING THAT DR.

LOPEZ HAD TO SAY SOMETHING.

SO I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO CONTINUE, SIR, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

IT'S HARD TO PUT YOURSELF BACK IN THAT PLACE IN THE SAME CONVERSATION BECAUSE THERE HAD BEEN A LOT OF GOOD CONVERSATION AROUND THE ROOM.

SO. MR. GLICK, THANK YOU.

I'LL JUST FINISH UP BY SAYING THAT AT THE BOTTOM LINE, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, ESPECIALLY WITH RESPECT TO OUR BUDGET, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO CLIMB UP TO THAT 30,000 FOOT LEVEL AND LOOK DOWN AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING.

AND THE RIGHT THING TAKES INTO ACCOUNT A MYRIAD OF DIFFERENT COMPETING, SOMETIMES COMPETING AND CONFLICTING PRIORITIES.

[IV.A. Information Items]

OUR PRIORITY IS TO HAVE A GOOD, SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR TEACHERS AND OUR KIDS TO LEARN.

AND OUR PRIORITY IS TO RUN A SOUND, FINANCIALLY SOUND DISTRICT AND TO CARE FOR AND BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE TAX EFFORT THAT WE GET FROM OUR REALLY GOOD COMMUNITIES OUT THERE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN I'M LOOKING AT EVERYTHING WE HAVE TO DO, I'M LOOKING AT BUDGET LIMITATIONS. I'M LOOKING AT THE LIMITATIONS OF THE STATE FUNDING FORMULAS.

I'M LOOKING AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE DRAWING UPON OUR AVAILABLE RESOURCES.

I'M LOOKING AT THAT WE HAVE 84% OF OUR BUDGET IS ALREADY TIED UP IN SALARIES.

I'M LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL OF SOME VERY MUCH NEEDED SALARY ADJUSTMENTS FOR OUR TEACHERS WHO DESERVE IT. BUT I'M ALSO LOOKING AT I NEED TO LOOK AT WHERE THAT'S GOING TO PUT US IN OUR OVERALL BUDGET AND OUR OVERALL FUNDING EFFORT.

AND WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS DIG A BIG OLD HOLE FOR YEARS TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE.

WHOEVER IS GOING TO BE ON THE BOARD IN THOSE YEARS, I DON'T WANT THEM.

I DON'T WANT THEM MAKING SOME REALLY SEVERE DECISIONS BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE MISSTEPPED OR OVERSTEPPED NOW. SO I JUST APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE BOARD WILL TAKE ITS TIME WITH THIS. LOOK AT THESE THINGS IN THE LIGHT OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMPETING FACTORS.

AND FOR ONE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SOMETHING.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T LOOK FORWARD TO THESE KIND OF DECISIONS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME PRETTY HEAVY DECISIONS WITH RESPECT TO THE BUDGET AND WHAT WE CAN AFFORD TO DO WITH OUR FEW RESOURCES NOW TO TRY TO HELP OUT OUR TEACHERS.

EVERYBODY ON THIS BOARD, I THINK I WANT TO SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY, BUT EVERYBODY PRETTY MUCH HAS AGREED THAT WE WANT TO DO EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN.

AND I THINK THAT HAS BEEN I THINK THAT HAS PLAYED OUT WITH JUST ABOUT EVERY DECISION WE'VE MADE AS A BOARD, EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP OUR TEACHERS AND HELP OUR STAFF.

EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE BEEN RAISING SALARIES, RAISING STIPENDS, RAISING TRANSPORTATION, BUS DRIVERS, PAYING STIPENDS.

YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING WE'VE TRIED TO DO TO TO TRY TO HELP MAKE MAKE ENDS MEET.

I DO KNOW THIS. I WAS IN A COUPLE OF MEETINGS TODAY, A LOT OF PEOPLE A LOT OF OUR FINANCE PEOPLE AT THE BANK.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF WORRY ABOUT INFLATION.

THERE'S A LOT OF WORRY ABOUT INTEREST RATES.

THERE'S A LOT OF WORRY ABOUT A PENDING RECESSION, THE R-WORD.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW, WHEN OR WHERE.

I JUST KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM THE FED, THE TREASURY ON DOWN THAT ARE WORRIED ABOUT THESE KINDS OF THINGS AND HOW DO WE DO IT? A LOT OF IT'S BEEN BROUGHT ON BY RUNAWAY SPENDING AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

LEVEL, WE DO NOT CONTROL THAT.

BUT THERE ARE SOME REALITIES, I THINK, MR.

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AND SO I JUST WANT TO REMIND THIS BOARD AND URGE THIS BOARD.

WE NEED TO THINK THROUGH ALL OF THIS.

WE WANT TO BE FAIR AND JUST.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF HOME BASE.

AND HOME BASE HAS BEEN THE EXCELLENT FINANCIAL RATING OF OUR DISTRICT.

I THINK MR. RINGO HAS TOLD US SEVERAL TIMES THAT IF YOU ACTUALLY HAVE NEGATIVE BUDGETS, ACTUALS, NOT NOT PROJECTIONS, IF YOU RUN DEFICITS A COUPLE OF YEARS IN A ROW, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO GET THE BEST FINANCIAL RATING THAT COULD HAVE IMPACT ON OUR BONDS AND ALL THAT. SO I WANT TO TAKE ALL OF THAT INTO EFFECT AS WE SIT HERE AND TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT AFFECT OUR BUDGET.

EVERYTHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A 7 TO $15 MILLION IMPACT OF A BUDGET THAT'S CURRENTLY AT $40 MILLION NEGATIVE, KNOWING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO SPEND ALL THAT, BUT STILL WE'RE RIGHT THERE AT THE LINE.

I JUST WANT US TO BE VERY CAREFUL AND VERY PLANNED AND AS WE'VE GOT GREAT INFORMATION, DR. RINGO AND FROM BRANDY.

SO LET'S USE IT AND LET'S MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND IT.

AND THEN LIKE I SAID, THIS BOARD, USUALLY SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, THIS BOARD HAS REALLY DONE THE RIGHT THING.

AND SO I JUST LOOK FORWARD TO US GETTING TO WHATEVER DECISION WE'RE GOING TO MAKE WITH RESPECT TO THE ITEM THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, WHICH IS RAISES STARTING POINTS, MIDPOINTS, ADJUSTMENTS, EQUITY AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO FOR THESE TEACHERS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR. MS. GRIFFIN, YOU HAD INDICATED YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AFTER THE TIA DISCUSSION.

YOU WOULD LIKE TO. SO PLEASE GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

THANK YOU, MR. GLICK.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO SAY IS THERE ARE A LOT OF UNKNOWNS IN THE FUTURE, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED TO THE DISTRICT, TO PUBLIC ED IN THESE LAST FEW YEARS. HOWEVER, WE HAVE CONTINUALLY IN GARLAND ISD HAD STAFF MEMBERS THAT HAVE PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE TO SHOW UP EVERY DAY TO MEET OUR KIDS WITH A SMILE, TO MEET THEM WITH THE CURRICULUM, TO GIVE THEM THEIR BEST, TO FEEL THEM WHAT THAT CLASS BASICALLY NEEDS.

I UNDERSTAND THE PERCENTAGE OF ANY BUDGET IS MOSTLY THE SALARIES, AND SO WE KNOW

[IV.B. Discussion Item (Part 1 of 2) ]

AND IF I THINK ABOUT THE VIRTUAL SCHOOLS, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MONEY WENT BACK INTO FUND BALANCE OR WHATEVER, BUT THAT WAS A FIGURE.

WE HAVE HAD THE HOLD HARMLESS INFORMATION COME THAT DR.

RINGO MENTIONED YESTERDAY.

AND I THINK THAT AT THAT POINT WE ARE I THINK YOU SAID $13 MILLION ON THIS WAVE, THAT WE KNOW.

EARLY GUIDANCE FROM TIA.

YES, MA'AM. EARLY, EARLY GUIDANCE.

I KNOW I WANT TO BE CAUTIOUS AND NO ONE WANTS TO PUT NO ONE ON THIS BOARD WANTS TO PUT US IN A BIND IN 3 TO 4 YEARS.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE MUST TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE WHO'S CARRYING THIS LOAD AND WHO STEERING US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION WITH THEIR BASIC COMMITMENTS.

SO MY CONCERN IS EVERY YEAR WE GET TO THIS POINT AND WE TALK ABOUT THE DEFICITS POTENTIALLY, WE TALK ABOUT THE DECLINE IN FUND BALANCE.

AND THEN WHEN WE GET PAST AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER OF THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR, OH, WE HAVE MORE THAN WHAT WE PROJECTED.

SO MY THOUGHTS ARE I LIKE TO SEE THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE PERCENTAGE THAT WE COULD GIVE EVERY STAFF PERSON AT MIDPOINT.

I THINK THEY ARE WORTHY OF IT.

I AM AWARE OF THE RETENTION BONUSES THAT HAVE BEEN AWARDED AND APPROVED THROUGH OUR ESSER FUND. I HAVE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE COMPETING DISTRICTS, BUT I LOOK AT THE DISTRICT THAT'S GIVEN A 3% INCREASE, BUT THEY ARE ALSO GIVEN A $5,000 RETENTION BONUS.

SO WE CAN'T COMPARE JUST THE PERCENTAGES AND YOU'RE NOT COMPARING EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO MY ENCOURAGEMENT IS LET'S SHOW THE STAFF, LET'S JUST KNOW THAT WE CAN BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.

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AND WHEN I TALK ABOUT STAFF, I'M TALKING ABOUT EVERYONE, BECAUSE IF IT WAS NOT FOR THE BUS DRIVERS, THERE WOULD BE NO KIDS IN THE SEATS AT THE SCHOOLS.

SO I WANT TO WELL, I KNOW SOME OF THEM WALK AND SO I GOT SOME OF THEM WALK AND SOME OF THEM DRIVE, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE KIDS WOULDN'T BE THERE.

THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON.

SO BUT MY DEAL IS I THINK THE TIME IS NOW JUST BECAUSE OF HOW WE'RE COMING OUT OF DISTRESSFUL TIMES.

SO THAT'S WHAT MY COMMENT IS.

AND WHEN WE LOOK ON OUR SUMMARY PAGE OF OUR BUDGET, WE SEE THAT LET ME REFER TO THE PAGE NUMBER, PAGE EIGHT.

AND WHEN WE SEE PAYROLL, WE ARE AT 61% RIGHT NOW AND WE ARE TWO MONTHS OUT BEFORE THIS FISCAL YEAR CHANGES.

SO THERE IS SOME MONEY THERE.

I'M JUST SAYING LET'S JUST MAKE A COMMITMENT TO EVERY STAFF MEMBER AND LET'S IMPROVE WHAT WE'VE DONE DIFFERENTLY IN THE PAST.

TRS IS GOING UP.

INSURANCE IS GOING UP.

I WOULD HATE TO BE A TEACHER THAT THINK I'M GETTING A RAISE AND THEN WHEN I LOOK AND I SEE WHAT INSURANCE COSTS AND WHAT TRS CONTRIBUTIONS ARE, THAT I END UP WITH $10 IN IN MY PAYCHECK. SO I JUST WANT US TO DO THE HIGHEST RAISE THAT WE CAN DO.

AND THAT'S WHY MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE TOTAL BUDGET NUMBER FOR ALL STAFF AT 4% AND 5% WITH BOTH STARTING SALARIES $59,000 AND THEN $60? WHAT IS YOU'VE SHOWN US IN THIS REPORT EXCELLENT INFORMATION.

AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO FOLLOW THE STEP STEPS OF THE TEACHERS.

BUT WHAT IS THAT FINAL NUMBER THAT WOULD IMPACT THE BUDGET THAT WOULD BE IN OUR BUDGET FOR 22-23 AS WHAT THAT TOTAL IS BECAUSE I CAN'T ADD UP THESE PAGES OR I DO, OR I MUST BE LOOKING AT SOMETHING WRONG BECAUSE IT JUST REALLY DOES NOT COMPUTE FOR ME.

WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

CAN I TAKE HER? OKAY.

YES, SIR. SO I THINK THE QUESTION YOU'RE ASKING IS ONE THAT I'VE ASKED PREVIOUSLY.

SO ON OUR PAGE THIRTY REPORT, PAGE NINE, WHICH IS THE GENERAL FUND RAISE SCENARIOS WHERE YOU YOU'RE ASKING FOR NUMBERS.

I THINK WE'D LIKE TO ASK EITHER DR.

LOPEZ OR DR.

RINGO, WHICH ARE THOSE, THE ACTUAL NUMBERS? I MEAN, RIGHT NOW THERE'S A NUMBER 21 212, 161 AND 25, 952, 688.

ARE THOSE THE NUMBERS THAT WE'D BE TALKING ABOUT? YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

THOSE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS. AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS ASKING FOR CLARITY.

SO LET'S GO THROUGH THE FIRST PAGE SINCE WE'RE ON PAGE NINE.

THIS IS JUST FLAT OUT RAISES.

IF WE'RE GOING TO GIVE FLAT OUT PERCENTAGE RAISE, IF WE WERE GOING TO START OFF, LET'S JUST SAY AT A 4% RAISE, IT WOULD BE A $21 MILLION HIT FOR THE BUDGET.

IF WE'RE GOING TO DO JUST A FLAT 5% RAISE FOR EVERYBODY, IT WOULD BE A $25 MILLION HIT.

NOW, WHAT WE INCLUDED UNDERNEATH THERE WAS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE NEW STARTING RATE WOULD BE WITH A 4 OR 5% RAISE.

SO NOW LET'S GO TO PAGE, WHICH WOULD BE PAGE ELEVEN, TWO PAGES OVER.

SO NOW WE HAVE TWO SCENARIOS.

SO LET'S JUST SAY SCENARIO ONE, WE DECIDED WE WANT 59% WITH THE 4% RAISE.

SO $59,000 STARTING PAY WITH A 4% RAISE.

I'M SORRY. SO JUST TEACHERS ALONE OUT OF ALL THAT MONEY WOULD BE $11 MILLION FOR 59 STARTING AND A 4% RAISE.

ADDITIONAL.

SEPARATE FROM DON'T LOOK AT THE OTHER ONE.

THIS IS STARTING FROM SCRATCH SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ADD MORE OK.

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ALL RIGHT. SO, SO, SO IF WE DECIDED TO GO 59,000 STARTING PAY AND THEN GIVE EVERY TEACHER A 4% RAISE, IT WOULD BE AT $11 MILLION, A 5% RAISE AT $59,000 WOULD BE ABOUT A $13.8 MILLION RAISE, $60,000 STARTING RATE A 4% RAISE IS 11.8, AND THEN A 5% RAISE IS $13.9.

NOW, WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING ANY OF THESE.

I'M JUST GOING TO DO THIS FOR MATHEMATICAL PURPOSES.

SO LET'S JUST SAY WE PICKED $60,000 WITH 4%.

SO WRITE DOWN $11.825 MILLION AND THEN WE GO TO ONE, TWO, THREE PAGES BACK TO SLIDE FOURTEEN.

THIRTY FIVE IN OUR BOOK, PAGE THIRTY FIVE ON OUR BOOK.

AND AT THE BOTTOM IT SAYS TOTAL OF ALL STAFF.

WE GAVE WE GAVE THE TEACHERS A 4% RAISE.

WE'D PROBABLY WANT TO KEEP IT CONSISTENT IF WE WANTED TO.

SO NOW WE ADD 7.071817 TO WHAT YOU JUST WROTE, AND THAT WOULD BE THE BUDGET HIT FOR THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR.

SO IF YOU ADD THE $11.8 PLUS THE $7.071, THAT WOULD BE THE BUDGET HIT.

SO BUT LET'S JUST SAY YOU WANT IT TO GIVE OTHER STAFF A TWO, YOU ADD THE 3.9.

IF YOU WANTED TO GIVE THE OTHER STAFF A THREE, IT'S A 5.4.

SO THAT'S HOW YOU WOULD DO IT AND DIFFERENTIATE.

ON THE CHART.

YOU ARE JUST TRYING TO GIVE US SOME OPTIONS SHOULD WE CHOOSE NOT TO GO ALL STAFF MEMBERS WITH THE SAME AMOUNT AT MIDPOINT.

RIGHT. BECAUSE I THINK YESTERDAY WE START TALKING ABOUT A ONE AND A TWO.

BUT IT WAS BASICALLY CONFUSING.

AND SO SO MY MATH IS PRETTY GOOD.

YES, IT IS. IT'S VERY GOOD.

YOU WERE RIGHT ON TARGET.

SO BASICALLY, I'M.

THIS LOOKS GOOD TO ME.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

SO WHEN YOU SAY IT LOOKS GOOD, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? 60 PLUS 5%.

60 PLUS 4%. 59 PLUS 5%.

WHAT PART LOOKS GOOD? I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT I'M JUST FOR CLARITY THAT JUST ASKING FOR CLARITY. IF YOU PUT ME ON THE SPOT, I'LL GO WITH IT.

I AND OUR CURRENT SALARY IS WHAT, 56 YES. OKAY. THEN I WOULD GO WITH 59 FOR THE STARTER IN SALARY AND THEN GIVE EVERY STAFF PERSON A 4% AT MIDPOINT.

OKAY. NOW, YOU ASKED ME.

YES, I DID NOT SPEAK FOR THE BOARD.

THAT WAS OUR TRAINING THAT SAID I.

SO THAT WAS JUST ME.

THANK YOU. OK ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS POINT? OKAY. WELL, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, WE DO HAVE A COMMITTEE STRUCTURE AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE A VOTE FROM THE COMMITTEE AS JUST A RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL BOARD.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE NORMALLY DO, BUT BASED ON OUR EXISTING COMMITTEE STRUCTURE, WE CAN DO. THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE MR. SELDERS, MR. BEACH AND MYSELF.

SO WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? THIS WOULD BE ON A RECOMMENDATION.

WE WILL NOT MAKE A MOTION.

THIS IS A COMMITTEE MEETING. WE WILL NOT TAKE A VOTE.

WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON YOUR OPTIONS YOU'D LIKE TO SEE COME FORWARD ON THE 26TH AND WE WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

AND PLEASE DO NOT MAKE A MOTION AND DO NOT VOTE, PLEASE.

MR. GLICK, BEFORE THERE WAS ONE SLIDE, YOU ALL HAD NOT SEEN THAT WE HAD ADDED.

AND IT WAS.

THE TEACHER MARKET SALARY COMPARISON.

AND THIS IS FROM TASB.

AND SO IT DOES OUR COMPARISON WITH OTHER DISTRICTS.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE LOCAL MARKET MEDIAN FOR 21-22.

GISD IS IN ORANGE, THE PROPOSED 22-23, 59 2% YOU CAN SEE IS IN THE GREEN LINE.

AND WHERE THAT COMES IN AT THE MARKET COMPARISON FOR 21-22 AND THEN 22-23, 62% WHERE THAT LINE COMES IN. AND AS MS. GRIFFIN NOTED EARLIER, THERE ARE OTHER DISTRICTS THAT ARE DOING RAISES THAT ARE GOING TO SLIDE THAT MARKET FOR NEXT YEAR.

BUT THAT IS THE CURRENT MARKET COMPARISON FOR YOUR VIEW AND THIS IS NOT IN YOUR PACKET.

THIS WAS ADDED, THERE WERE THREE SLIDES ADDED, TWO OF THOSE BEING ESSER AND THIS ONE

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OK MR. SELDERS.

THANKS FOR SHARING THAT INFORMATION.

I GUESS I WAS JUST CURIOUS, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT WHAT MR. MILLER TALKED ABOUT AND ALSO WHAT MR. GRIFFIN SHARED. JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW, WHEN WE'VE TALKED TO STAFF AND WE'VE TALKED TO TEACHERS, I MEAN, I GOT TO IMAGINE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN HAVING THOSE SAME CONVERSATIONS WITH RESPECT TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST AND WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS ACTUALLY ENOUGH OR IT MOVED THE NEEDLE AND THAT THEY FELT APPRECIATED.

WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE WANTED TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THIS ACTION.

WHAT ARE YOU HEARING IN WHAT IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAS COME BACK THAT YOU HAVE HEARD THAT SAYS, IF WE DO THIS, THEN WE MEET THAT LEVEL IN THAT, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR WHAT WE SAID YESTERDAY TO OBVIOUSLY 1%, EVEN 2% DOES NOT KEEP UP WITH THE COST OF INFLATION.

ALSO KNOWING WITH THAT, TOO, THE BURDEN OF CARRYING THAT COST OF INFLATION HAS NOT BEEN WITH THE STATE ON SCHOOL FUNDING.

THE BURDEN HAS BEEN WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS BECAUSE THERE IS NO REPEAT.

AGAIN, FOR THOSE ACKNOWLEDGED YESTERDAY, THERE IS NOT ANY NEW MONEY IN PUBLIC EDUCATION UNLESS YOU'RE INCREASING AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE OR PASSING A TAX RATE ELECTION.

MOST OF OUR DISTRICTS IN OUR AREA HAVE ALREADY PASSED THE TAX RATE ELECTION, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE GIVING THEY'RE GETTING MORE MONEY PER STUDENT.

SO WHEN YOU TALK TO STAFF, IT'S A BALANCING PIECE OF WE WOULD LOVE TO GIVE 4% AND 5% RAISES EVERY YEAR. AS WE'VE NOTED WITH THE FUND BALANCE ADS IN PRIOR FISCAL YEARS IN 2000, OUR NORMAL LAST TRUE 12 MONTH OPERATIONAL YEAR WAS 2017-18.

2018-19 WE CHANGED OUR FISCAL YEAR, SO WE OPERATE ON TEN MONTHS.

THAT ADDED ROUGHLY 33 MILLION TO FUND BALANCE.

WE HAVE TWO LESS FULL MONTHS OF OPERATIONS.

THAT'S ONE MONTH OF PAYROLL FOR US ABOUT.

AND THEN 19-20 HOUSE BILL THREE PASSED THAT ADDED NEW MONEY TO THE FUNDING FORMULA.

2020 AND THEN WE WENT INTO THREE MONTHS OF SHUTDOWN, SO A QUARTER OF OUR OPERATIONAL YEAR WAS SHUT DOWN. WE DID NOT SPEND ANY MONEY OTHER THAN PAYROLL BASICALLY.

THEN. 21-22 SAME THING, ABA, COVID IMPACT, WE'RE GOING TO BE HELD HARMLESS FOR THAT.

AND SO BUT LAST FISCAL YEAR FOR 2021, EVEN WITH THAT IMPACT, WE ONLY ADDED $3.5 MILLION TO FUND BALANCE. WE HAD A $20 MILLION SAVE ON PAYROLL.

AND SO AS WE LOOK AT THIS, IT'S SIMILAR TO THOSE TRIPS WE WANT TO GO ON.

WE HAVE FUN BALANCE AND A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE.

HOW DEEP DO WE WANT TO GO INTO THAT FUND BALANCE? BECAUSE THE DEEPER WE GO WITHOUT FUTURE REVENUE INCREASES, IT'S GOING TO CAUSE ALL OF US TO HAVE TO TIGHTEN OUR BELT WITH PROGRAM, TO USE POSITION REVIEWS TO SUSTAIN FOR 4 TO 5 YEARS OUT IF THERE'S NOT ANY NEW REVENUE.

AND SO WHEN YOU TALK TO STAFF AND ASK THAT, THAT, I MEAN, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR EVERYTHING FROM 5% TO 10% AND IF THE REVENUE IS THERE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.

YES. AND SO THAT'S THE FEEDBACK WE GET DAILY.

YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY 1, 2, EVEN 3% IS NOT ENOUGH.

AS THE FEEDBACK WE HEAR, YOU'LL BE TOLD 4 AND 5% IS NOT ENOUGH, ESPECIALLY WITH THE COST OF LIVING, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH INFLATION.

AND SO AS WE REVIEW THE BUDGET, IT'S THE SUSTAINABILITY FOR NOT JUST ONE YEAR OF EATING INTO THAT SAFETY NET, BECAUSE IF WE TAKE TOO EXPENSIVE A TRIP, I HAVE THREE KIDS, WE LIVE IN GARLAND AND WE GO TO THE MALDIVES AND RENT ONE OF THE SUITES ABOVE THE OCEAN, WHICH WE NEVER DONE. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT THAT TRIP WOULD COST AND I'D BE PAYING FOR THAT TRIP FOR A WHILE. OR IF I COULD DRIVE DOWN TO THE COAST IN OUR OWN CAR, IT'S MORE AFFORDABLE.

MAY NOT HAVE TO DIP IN THE SAVINGS AS MUCH, BUT THAT WHAT I SPEND NOW WILL IMPACT MY KIDS 2 TO 3 YEARS FROM NOW IF IT'S TOO BIG OF A BITE.

THANKS. YES.

AND MR. SELDERS ANY OPINION AT THIS POINT? I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC NUMBER.

I THINK BASED ON WHAT DR.

RINGO AND WHAT I'VE HEARD SHARED, I DEFINITELY DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE ONE OR 2%.

I THINK 3% IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE WHERE I WOULD LAND.

SO I WOULD PROBABLY BE LOOKING MORE 4 TO 5.

AND I HAVEN'T DECIDED THE 59 OR 60.

GOOD. THANK YOU, SIR.

MR. BEACH. THANK YOU, MR. [INAUDIBLE]. I AGREE.

THANK YOU, MR. MILLER AND MR. GRIFFIN BOTH FOR COMMENT AND ROBERT, YOURSELF.

THE THINGS THAT I THAT AS I'VE BEEN LOOKING THROUGH THIS AND I'VE BEEN EVALUATING AND THINKING ABOUT, OF COURSE, COMING OUT OF THE CLASSROOM, MYSELF AND THE TEACHER AS A TEACHER. ONE QUESTION I WOULD LIKE TO ASK HOW THIS IF WE LOOK AT A 4 OR 5%, THE TAX COMPRESSION WILL AFFECT THAT.

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TAX COMPRESSION IS ONLY BASED ON OUR TAXABLE VALUES.

SO NO MATTER WHAT WE DO ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, IT DOES NOT CHANGE WHAT THE COMPRESSION LEVEL IS. THAT'S ALL NOW GOVERNED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS.

AND SO DEPENDING ON OUR TAXABLE VALUE GROWTH, WHICH IS GOING TO BE HIGH, THAT HAS NO IMPACT ON INCREASING OR DECREASING OUR REVENUE.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THE OTHER THING THAT REALLY, AS I KEPT READING THROUGH THIS AND IT KEPT REALLY BOTHERING ME AND OF COURSE, IT AFFECTED ME EVEN WHEN I WAS TEACHING.

WAS THE HEALTH CARE PART, THE TRS HEALTH CARE.

LIKE I TOLD YESTERDAY WHEN I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE GOT A 3% PAY RAISE AND I GOT MY PAYCHECK AND IT WAS I GOT $16.

AND IT REALLY, REALLY JUST I MEAN, IT JUST TOOK THE WIND OUT OF MYSELF BECAUSE I WAS WORKING HARD IN THE CLASSROOM.

LIKE, I KNOW THAT EVERY TEACHER IN THIS DISTRICT IS DOING RIGHT NOW.

AND THERE'S BEEN MORE AND MORE ADDED ON TO THEM EACH AND EVERY YEAR.

BUT IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN BEING IN THE WORKING WORLD.

WE'RE BIG BUSINESS. I MEAN, THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, AND IT IS HARD WORK.

ONE THING THAT I THINK THIS BOARD IS GOING TO HAVE TO REALLY LOOK AT, IF WE DECIDE TO GO 4 OR 5%, WHICH THAT'S THE WAY I'M LEANING ALSO IS THE PROGRAM EVALUATION OF OUR ENTIRE OVERALL DISTRICT.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT VERY CAREFULLY.

WHEN YOU SAID TIGHTEN THE BELT.

YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.

BECAUSE IF WE STEP OUT THERE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PROBABLY DO THE RAISE LIKE WE WANT TO THIS YEAR. BUT IN FUTURE YEARS, LIKE MR. MILLER WAS TELLING, PROGRAMS EITHER HAVE TO GO TO THE WAYSIDE.

AND WE HATE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN, BUT WE NEVER KNOW HOW THE SENATE OR THE STATE IS GOING TO REACT STATEWIDE.

AS FAR AS FUNDING IS CONCERNED, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR ADA IS GOING TO DO.

WE WE GUESS WE HAVE THE GIS PEOPLE COME IN HERE, THEY GIVE US INFORMATION ABOUT NEW HOUSING, MORE FAMILIES COMING IN.

WE DON'T WE DON'T KNOW.

AND THERE'S UNKNOWNS.

AND LIKE I'VE ALWAYS SAID BEFORE, WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THIS BOARD, IT REALLY BOTHERED ME BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, JAMIE, I MEAN, CAN WE GET A ZERO BALANCED BUDGET, YOU KNOW, LIKE A CHECKBOOK? NOW, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS REALLY A FLOATING CHECK, BUT BECAUSE WE DON'T WE NEVER GET ACTUAL FIGURES FROM THE STATE AND WE'RE JUST KIND OF HANGING THERE.

SO I KNOW THAT AS A BOARD, WE HAVE TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS.

THIS IS ONE OF THEM. BUT I ALSO KNOW THIS THAT TOUGH DECISION THAT I WANT TO MAKE IS IN FAVOR OF THE TEACHERS.

SO I'M GOING TO AGAIN BE JUST LIKE ROBERT.

I'M GOING TO EITHER GO FOR THE 4 OR 5%.

YES, SIR. CHAIRPERSON GLICK, JUST REAL QUICK, I WANT TO MAKE THINGS JUST REAL CLEAR.

IF WE EVER RUN INTO A BUDGET SHORTFALL, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PROGRAM EVALUATION, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT MEANS PEOPLE.

PEOPLE RUN PROGRAMS. OKAY. AND I DON'T WANT TO MIXED MESSAGES LIKE, OH, IF WE CUT LIKE THREE PROGRAMS, WE CAN.

IT'S IT'S STILL UNDER PAYROLL.

SO WE WANT TO AVOID ALL OF THAT STUFF.

THE GOOD PART ABOUT OUR DISTRICT AND I WANT PEOPLE THAT AREN'T IN THIS EVERY DAY.

I WANT TO LET THEM KNOW WE HAVE A VERY HEALTHY FUND BALANCE.

WE HAVE SAVED OUR MONEY IN PENNIES FOR RAINY DAYS.

WE HAVE NOT BEEN ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT JUST GO OUT AND AND SPEND.

THE SECOND THING IS WE ARE NOT AT OUR HIGHEST TAX RATE.

SO IF WE EVER NEED TO GO FOR A TRE TO MAINTAIN OUR OUR POSITION FINANCIALLY, THERE'S THAT OPTION AS WELL.

WE CAME VERY CLOSE TO A VERY CONTESTED ELECTION THAT WE HAD OVER 100,000 VOTES.

AND THAT SET A NEW RECORD FOR ANY VOTE FOR GARLAND ISD.

THE HIGHEST WAS 14,000.

WE WENT TO 104,000.

A LOT OF LESSONS LEARNED THERE.

SO THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY THAT WE COULD LOOK AT AND EXPLORE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

RIGHT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, AS WE GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS, I, I JUST WANT US TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE WE ARE REALLY WE WE'VE TIGHTENED THE BELTS.

PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND WE WANT TO GIVE OUR TEACHERS THE BEST.

THANK YOU. I WANT TO CONTINUE WITH ONE OTHER OTHER COMMENT.

I ALSO UNDERSTAND, TOO, THAT AND I CAN REMEMBER THE 20 YEARS THAT I TAUGHT, I DON'T THINK THAT WE WERE EVER AT 100% FULLY EMPLOYED.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER CAPACITY THAT IS OPEN TOO THAT.

RIGHT NOW, I FEEL LIKE THAT IN THE FALL THAT IT'S GOING TO BE AND WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE STATE AS FAR AS TEACHING AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE ALREADY GONE OUT IN OUR DISTRICT RIGHT NOW THIS SPRING, THE UNIVERSITIES TRYING TO RECRUIT IN COMING BACK AND GIVING US THE THUMBS DOWN INSTEAD OF THE THUMBS UP.

THAT'S NOT VERY ENCOURAGING FOR WHAT'S GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE IN OUR SCHOOL IN THE FALL.

SO WE NEED TO RETAIN OUR BEST TEACHERS AND THE TEACHERS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE REALLY BUSTING IT OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THERE IS THERE'S A WORKFORCE SHORTAGE AND IT'S

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SO WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR.

JUST MY CLOSING COMMENTS.

I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW, I HAVE A VERY STRONG BACKGROUND IN FINANCE.

I REMEMBER GETTING ON THIS BOARD IN 2007 AND WE'D GET REPORTS BACK THEN.

OUR FISCAL YEAR STARTED SEPTEMBER ONE, NOT JULY ONE, AND WE'D LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS OVER THE SUMMER AND THEN COME DECEMBER TIME, WE'D GET OUR COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT. WE CALL IT THE [INAUDIBLE].

AND THE FUND BALANCE WAS ALWAYS HIGHER THAN WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IN THE SUMMERTIME, AND THAT WAS A CONTINUING PATTERN.

IT NEVER REALLY SEEMED TO CHANGE, AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WHEN WE CONSIDERED RAISES, WHICH WAS ALWAYS EARLIER SPRING AND THEN SUMMER, WE NEVER HAD THE REALLY FINAL NUMBERS.

AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT, WELL, I KNEW WHAT THE FINAL NUMBERS OR I COULD GUESS WHAT THE FINAL NUMBERS ARE GOING TO ASSUME WHAT THE FINAL NUMBERS WERE.

AND THEY USUALLY PRETTY CLOSE AND MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE GIVEN HIGHER RAISES BACK THEN.

AND THE SAME PATTERN HAS SEEMED TO EXIST RECENTLY AS AS I SAID, OUR NUMBER NOW IS, AS DR.

LOPEZ SAID, IS VERY HEALTHY FUND BALANCE.

IT'S $270 MILLION.

THAT'S BY FAR THE HIGHEST IT'S EVER BEEN.

AND SO AS I OPENED THE REMARKS TO THIS SECTION YESTERDAY, I THINK IT'S TIME TO REWARD OUR TEACHERS, TO REWARD OUR STAFF.

AND I AGREE WITH MS. GRIFFIN'S COMMENTS AND MR. BEACH'S COMMENTS.

AND I THINK MR. SELDERS COMMENTS THAT IT'S TIME TO GO TO A A VERY SERIOUS NUMBER TO ME.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR STARTING SALARY AT $60,000, AND I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFLICTED RIGHT NOW BETWEEN THE 4% AND 5%, 4% LOOKS LIKE IT'S A LITTLE $18.2 MILLION 5%, $22.6 MILLION SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE.

BUT I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO ANYTHING LESS THAN THAT.

YES, SIR. SO GOOD NEWS.

I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU. IF WE CAN GO TO THIRTY TWO IN YOUR PACKET, I WANT TO SHOW YOU SOMETHING. AND AND WE ALL TALKED ABOUT COMPRESSION THE MORE MONEY THAT WE PUT INTO RAISES. AND THE STARTING SALARY, THE LEAST AMOUNT OF COMPRESSION.

I WANT TO SHOW YOU SOMETHING THAT'S VERY INTERESTING AND THAT KIND OF SUPPORTS THE $60,000 STARTING PAY.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT 2% EQUITY, IF WE START AT 59,000 AND 2% FOR TEACHERS, THE TOTAL COST IS $7.2 MILLION.

RIGHT. BUT THEN YOU GO TO $60,000 AND IT JUMPS $3 MILLION.

BUT IF YOU GO UP TO THE 5%, IT'S $13 MILLION, 13.858 FOR 5% AT $59 MILLION. BUT IT'S ONLY $100,000 MORE IF YOU GO TO $60,000 WITH A 5% EQUITY, AND IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE DECOMPRESSING THE EQUITY PORTION OF THE THINGS.

SO THE HIGHER RAISE YOU GO, THE REALLY THE LESS GAP THERE IS BETWEEN ONE AND THE OTHER.

SO IF WE ARE LOOKING AT AN AGGRESSIVE RAISE OF $60,000, YOU JUST HAVE TO COMPARE THE TO WHERE YOU COULD DO A $60,000, 5% FOR TEACHERS.

RIGHT. AND THEN YOU COULD TURN AROUND AND DO A 4% FOR EVERYONE ELSE AND THEN YOU GO TO THE 4% MARK.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO REALIZE THAT THE 5% AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO ALIGN WITH THE OTHER 5%.

I THINK THAT'S FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

AGAIN, THIS WILL BE ON OUR AGENDA IN TWO WEEKS.

AND IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, LET'S GO TO ITEM.

WE WOULD LIKE TO ALSO DO AN UPDATE ON ESSER WITH YOUR PERMISSION, BECAUSE WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS COME IN TODAY FOR CLARIFICATION FROM THE THE ONE TIME PERFORMANCE BASED PAYOUT THAT WE GOT APPROVAL FROM FROM TEA.

SO GO AHEAD, DR.

RINGO. JUST TO RECAP FROM PRIOR DISCUSSIONS, BECAUSE WE WILL BRING THIS FORWARD AT THE APRIL BOARD OF TRUSTEES MEETING TO OUR SIGN ON INCENTIVE STIPEND WAS APPROVED IN OUR SUBMITTED PLAN.

THIS IS NOT, ACCORDING TO TEACHERS, NOT ELIGIBLE COMPENSATION.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS YOU STILL GET PAID THE MONEY.

IT JUST NOT FACTOR INTO YOUR HIGHEST YEARS OF REPORTED SALARIES.

THERE'S ON THEIR WEBSITE, IT DOES LIST WHAT IS CREDIBLE AND WHAT IS NOT TRS CREDIBLE COMPENSATION. THE OTHER ONE THAT WE RECEIVED APPROVAL LAST WEEK THROUGH OUR ESSER AMENDMENT AND START HAVING DISCUSSIONS HERE.

THIS ONE ALSO IS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A RETENTION AND IT'S A PERFORMANCE RETENTION

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WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE PERFORMANCE INCENTIVE STIPEND, WHEN YOU LOOK AT TRS ELIGIBLE STIPENDS, THEY DIDN'T TALK ABOUT PERFORMANCE, BUT THEY ALSO TALK ABOUT PERFORMANCE FOR THAT YEAR TYPICALLY.

AND SO WHEN WE TALK TO TASB COUNSEL, TASB SAID WE HAVE TO GET CLARITY FROM TEACHERS BECAUSE THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GIVE US THAT GUIDANCE.

THEY WOULD NOT KNOW HOW TO INTERPRET THAT.

BUT BECAUSE THEY ALSO SAID WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT IT'S TO RETAIN OUR TOP 35% OF CORE TEACHERS, RETENTION IS NOT ELIGIBLE.

SO WE ARE SEEKING CLARITY FROM TRS AND HAVE BEEN WE'VE ACTUALLY CALLED THE STATE.

WE HAVE LOCAL REPS AND STATE REPS IN THAT TO TRY TO GET THAT CLARITY AND WORK WITH OUR LOCAL REP TOO. IS THERE A WAY AT ANY WAY POSSIBLE TO MAKE THE STIPEND TRS CREDIBLE COMPENSATION, MEANING IT COULD BE FACTORED INTO THEIR HIGHEST YEARS OF EARNINGS? AGAIN, ESSER. THIS WOULD ONLY BE FOR ONE YEAR, BUT ONE YEAR ADDED ON TO A TEACHER'S AVERAGE OR ANY EMPLOYEE'S AVERAGE CAN MAKE A HUGE IMPACT FOR RETIREMENT EARNINGS WHEN THAT TIME DOES COME.

AND SO JUST BE AWARE FOR THE BOARD, WE HAVE CONTINUED THAT CONVERSATION WITH TRS TO TRY TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY WAY POSSIBLE WHERE THIS WOULD BE A TRS CREDIBLE COMPENSATION TO BE FACTORED IN, BECAUSE THAT COULD ALSO DETERMINE HOW THIS IS PAID OUT.

BUT IF THAT FEEDBACK IS STILL NO, THAT PAYOUT WE'RE LOOKING AT WOULD BE SEPTEMBER OF 2022.

ALSO GO OVER HOW WE CANNOT PAY OUT NOW IN JUNE BECAUSE IT WASN'T AN IDENTIFIED STIPEND.

SO UNDER CREDIBLE COMPENSATION, IF YOU LOOK THIS YEAR AT CURRENT STIPENDS, WHAT STIPENDS HAVE BEEN PAID. EVERY STIPEND IS LISTED IN WHAT THE BOARD APPROVED FOR THE 21-22 COMPENSATION PLAN BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT, THAT'S CONSIDERED A GIFT TO PUBLIC FUNDS, WHICH IS PROHIBITED. AND ALSO ONCE WE'RE IN THE CONTRACT YEAR AND OPERATIONAL AND IT'S NOT THE COMPENSATION PLAN, IT'S ALSO PROHIBITED TO CHANGE THAT PAY STRUCTURE.

AND SO DUE TO THIS BEING APPROVED LAST WEEK AND WE ARE IN APRIL, THE COMPENSATION PLAN WAS APPROVED LAST JUNE, IT IS PROHIBITIVE TO MAKE THIS TYPE OF PAYMENT THIS CURRENT YEAR.

ONE, IT WAS NOT IN OUR ESSER PLAN OR ESSER FUNDING.

NUMBER TWO, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT WAS NOT IN THE COMPENSATION PLAN.

THESE STIPENDS ARE NOWHERE TO BE FOUND IN THE 21-22 COMPENSATION PLAN.

SO WE'RE MOVING THAT FORWARD AS LONG AS IT'S APPROVED FOR THE CONTRACT YEAR AS IT STARTS AND IT'S IN THE COMPENSATION PLAN THAT IS BOARD APPROVED FOR 22-23, WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE THAT PAYMENT. MR. BEACH AND THEN MS. GRIFFIN.

QUICK QUESTION ON THE OTHER 56 PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE MASTER, WHEN WILL WE OR WILL WE GET TO THE DIVIDING POINT OF HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE TIER ONE AND HOW MANY ARE TIER TWO? GREAT NEWS, MR. BEACH, DR.

CADDELL AND HER TEAM.

THIS IS FROM THAT TIA PROCESS.

THEY DID. THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED EVERY ONE OF THESE TEACHERS AND I CAN REQUEST AND WORK WITH HER TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL RECEIVE THAT INFORMATION.

AND I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THAT SPLIT IS OF TIER ONE AND TWO.

THANK YOU, MS. GRIFFIN. YES.

SO WE ARE INTO THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR TO PAY THIS OUT.

WHAT ARE YOU ALL RECOMMENDING AS THAT TIME FRAME.

WE ARE FOR RIGHT NOW? IF TRS TELLS US THIS IS NOT A TRS CREDIBLE COMPENSATION BECAUSE IT'S BEING USED FOR DATA THAT'S TWO YEARS REMOVED FROM THE COMPENSATION PLAN, MEANING THIS IS IT'S DATA FROM THE 20-21 ACADEMIC YEAR WE'LL BE IN THE 22-23 ACADEMIC YEAR.

OUR PLAN WOULD BE TO PAY IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022.

IF TRS COMES BACK TO US AND SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE WILL FACTOR THIS AS CREDIBLE COMPENSATION.

AND AGAIN, I'M GOING TO SAY IT AGAIN, INITIAL FEEDBACK IS WITH IT BEING TO RETAIN AND RETENTION IS NOT CREDIBLE IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET SOME RULING IN WRITING, OTHERWISE WE WOULD PAY THIS OUT OVER THE 12 MONTHS BECAUSE IT'S AS WORK IS PERFORMED THAT ALLOWS IT TO BE TRS CREDIBLE.

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE OF HOW WE APPLIED FOR IT AND WHAT WE'RE ADDING TO.

BUT WAS THAT HOW IT WAS GOING TO BE PAID OUT INITIALLY? HOW IT WAS GOING TO BE PAID OUT INITIALLY WAS NOT DISTRICT FUNDS.

IT WAS GOING TO BE A FLOW THROUGH. AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE NEED TO SAY.

YEAH. THE CHANGE IS IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU'VE JUST STATED, BUT IN ADDITION BECAUSE IT IS SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THAT IS SAID.

YES. AND AS YOU AS YOU NOTED, THE STATE CONTROLLED TIA, MEANING WE DIDN'T COLLECT THAT MONEY LOCALLY OR FROM THE STATE TO HAS REVENUE.

IT WAS A FLOW THROUGH MEANING THEY DETERMINED THE EXACT TO THE PENNY OF WHAT EVERY ONE OF THESE TEACHERS WERE GOING TO GET IF WE HAD QUALIFIED FOR THAT.

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IT FLOWS TO THE DISTRICT, TO THE EMPLOYEE.

NOT PART OF OUR TYPICAL.

SO JUST THE STATE COULD HAVE CHANGED IT SO WE COULD HAVE.

YEAH. SO THE SECOND.

AND THE SECOND THING THAT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET PROCESS, THAT IS PART OF THE BUDGET THAT THE BOARD WILL BE APPROVING IN APRIL ALSO IS TO MOVE FROM TWO LOCAL DAYS TO FIVE LOCAL DAYS. THAT DOES HAVE A BUDGET IMPACT.

WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES, THEIR HEALTH AND WELFARE NEEDS, WHETHER IT'S SOCIAL, EMOTIONAL OR TRUE HEALTH OR JUST NEEDING A BREAK.

WE REALLY WANT TO INCLUDE THAT.

THAT IS A POLICY CHANGE THAT IS COMING UP IN APRIL AND THAT WILL MOVE US FROM 2 TO 5 DAYS. SO NOW THE EMPLOYEES WILL GET A TOTAL OF TEN DAYS WITH THESE ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION PACKAGES.

AND OF COURSE THAT'S ADDED COST WITH SUBSTITUTES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO THIS IS ABOVE THE PAY RAISE.

MR. MILLER.

YEAH. THANK YOU. MR. GLICK.

AND AND I'M ASSUMING THAT AS WE MOVE PAST TODAY, THERE WILL BE AN ITEM THAT WILL MOVE FORWARD TO THE AGENDA FOR OUR MEETING LATER THIS MONTH.

AND THAT WILL BE AN ACTION ITEM.

YES, SIR. PRIOR TO ME BEING READY TO EVEN GO TO AN ACTION ITEM.

THERE'S JUST SOME MORE INFORMATION THAT I WANT, AND IT'LL HAVE TO COME FROM DR.

RINGO AND HIS STAFF.

WE KNOW THAT FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, BECAUSE OF COVID, WE HAVEN'T COME ANYWHERE CLOSE TO FULL UTILIZATION OF THE AVAILABLE TEACHER POSITIONS THAT WE'VE NEEDED.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF VACANCIES, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE'VE SAVED MILLIONS 20 MILLION DR.

RINGO SOME MILLION, CLOSE TO $20 MILLION THAT WE HAD BUDGETED TO SPEND THAT WE NEVER SPENT BECAUSE WE COULDN'T.

IF WE HAD OF, THERE'S NO WAY WOULD I EVER HAD A BUDGET SURPLUS, AS YOU JUST HEARD.

WE HAD A $3 MILLION ADDITION TO THE BUDGET LAST YEAR IN SPITE OF THE $20 MILLION SAVED.

SO IF I'M LOOKING AND THAT WAS WHAT THEY BUDGET THAT ORIGINALLY I THINK WAS A $23 MILLION DEFICIT AND WE HAD SOME OTHER COVID SAVES THAT LED TO THAT.

WHAT I FEEL LIKE IS THAT AS WE'RE HEADING TOWARDS WHAT MAY BE NORMAL GOING FORWARD, IT MAY NOT BE NORMAL TO US, BUT SOMETHING CLOSER TO NORMAL GOING FORWARD.

I GUESS, DR.

RINGO, WHAT DO YOU FEEL LIKE IS GOING TO BE I USE THE WORD UTILIZATION, FULFILLMENT, WHATEVER THE WORD IS.

WE HAVE SO MANY POSITIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO HIRE THAT WE JUST CAN'T.

WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO IT.

AND THAT HAS CAUSED ALL KINDS OF RIPPLE EFFECTS DOWN BELOW WITH THE NUMBER OF KIDS IN CLASSROOMS SUBSTITUTE ALL THESE OTHER THINGS.

IF WE WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE WITH THIS BUDGET THAT'S ALREADY AT A $40 MILLION DEFICIT, AND IF WE ADD MAYBE ANOTHER 15 OR 20 TO THAT, THEN WE'RE IN THE 55 $60 MILLION.

I MEAN. IN ORDER TO BREAK EVEN ON THAT BUDGET, WE WOULD OUR UTILIZATION WOULD HAVE TO BE EVEN LESS.

BECAUSE HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS.

WE'RE 86% OR LOOK LIKE WE'RE GOING TO 90% OF OUR BUDGET TO GO TO SALARIES IN ORDER TO CUT ANYTHING. THERE'S NO WAY TO DO IT WITHOUT HEADCOUNT.

I THINK DR. LOPEZ HAS ALREADY STATED THAT.

WE'RE NEVER GOING TO CUT PENCILS AND PAPER ENOUGH TO COVER THOSE KIND OF NUMBERS.

AND WHEN I SAY I'M LOOKING OUT IN YEARS THREE OR FOUR, I DON'T SAY THAT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE FULL SUPPORT FOR DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN FOR TEACHERS.

I SAY THAT WITH THE FULL REALIZATION THAT THESE LINES ARE ABOUT TO CROSS AND WE'RE ABOUT TO GO WHERE WE WILL BE FORCED TO HAVE A TRE OR WE'LL BE FORCED TO DO SOMETHING EVEN MORE DRASTIC WITH RESPECT TO OUR EXPECTATION TO EVER GETTING BACK TO FULL OPERATIONS.

I THINK WE'RE IMPACTING THE DECISION WE'RE GOING TO MAKE RIGHT OR WRONG.

I'M NOT SAYING IT'S WRONG.

I'M JUST SAYING EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE AWARE THAT WHAT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN WITH THE CROSSING OF THESE LINES IS WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO GET TO THAT SPOT WHERE WE HAVE TO DO A TRE OR WE HAVE TO TOTALLY REVAMP OUR PROGRAMS AND OFFERINGS, WHICH MEANS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE CURRENTLY HERE MAY NOT BE HERE.

SO AS WITH ANY BUSINESS, WHEN WE'VE BEEN HERE AND I'VE BEEN IN THAT POSITION SEVERAL TIMES WITH THE BANKS I'VE RUN.

YOU KIND OF THERE'S EVERY CUT YOU MAKE HURTS.

YOU'RE CUTTING SOMETHING THAT HURTS.

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NONE OF THAT IS ANYTHING THAT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO AS A BOARD MEMBER, AND NONE OF THAT IS ANYTHING I THINK THAT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO PUTTING DR.

LOPEZ AND DR. RINGO UNDER.

WE DO WANT TO TAKE CARE OF OUR TEACHERS AND OUR STAFF, EVERYBODY.

WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THEM.

BUT I HAVE GOT TO HAVE A CLEAR WAY TO PAY FOR IT.

AND RIGHT NOW, WHILE EVERYBODY IS IN SUPPORT AND I DON'T DISAGREE, I HAVEN'T HEARD A CLUE ABOUT HOW WE PAY FOR THAT.

THAT'S $15 MILLION ON TOP OF A $40 MILLION AIRBALL.

THAT MAKES ME REAL UNCOMFORTABLE, LARRY.

SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE FROM IN SOME MORE INFORMATION IS A WAY I MEAN, WHAT KIND OF UTILIZATION OF OUR STAFF COULD WE EXPECT IF YOU THINK WE MIGHT SAVE 20 MILLION NORMALLY IN A NORMAL YEAR OF SALARY SAVES BECAUSE WE COULDN'T FILL THE POSITIONS OR PEOPLE LEFT OR WHAT HAVE YOU, THEN THAT MAYBE GETS US FROM 55 TO 35.

BUT 35 IS A BIG AIRBALL AND OUR GENERAL FUND CAN HANDLE THAT A COUPLE OF YEARS BEFORE WE START GETTING TIGHT THERE.

SO WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS A TRE LAST NUMBERS WOULD PROVIDE US WITH UP TO IF WE FULLY MAXIMIZE ABOUT 47 MILLION IN TOTAL FUNDING, LARRY.

THAT'S THE NUMBER? EXACTLY.

IF WE TOOK ALL THE PENNIES, IF WE COULD GET APPROVAL FOR ALL THE PENNIES, THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY.

IF WE COULD GET TAXPAYER SUPPORT FOR GIVING THESE RAISES TO THE TEACHERS AND THE STAFF, I WOULD BE SO MUCH HAPPIER.

BUT WE JUST TRIED TWO YEARS, A YEAR AND A HALF AGO AND AND IT NARROWLY FAILED.

BUT IT FAILED. AND I'M NOT SURE EVERYBODY WAS AWARE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS TICKET, BOTTOM OF THE BALLOT, BECAUSE EVERYBODY LOOKING AT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND ALL THAT CIRCUS, BUT NONE OF THE PEOPLE WERE INFORMED ABOUT WHAT THIS REALLY MEANT.

AND BY THAT, NOT PASSING, YOU TALK ABOUT TYING THE BOARDS HANDS WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT PRESSURES NOW THAT WE FELT AND THE UNFORESEEN COVID STUFF, WE HAVE HAD SUCH A BLESSING WITH ESSER AGAIN, MONEY THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BORROWED FROM OUR GRANDKIDS, BUT IT LED US TO FILL THE HOLE FOR NOW.

BUT Y'ALL, WE'RE NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

WE CAN'T. WE CAN'T JUST RAISE THE DEFICIT CEILING TO PAY OUR BILLS.

I THINK WE'RE EXPECTED TO BE MORE.

WE'RE EXPECTED TO PLAN BETTER.

SO THE ONLY HESITATION I HAVE IN ANY SUPPORTING ANYTHING IS SOMEBODY SHOWING ME A WAY TO PAY FOR IT. DR.

RINGO. MR. MILLER I WAS GOING TO SAY HR HUMAN RESOURCES TEAM IS OVER THE FORECASTING AND TRENDS AND PROJECTIONS. WE CAN DEFINITELY GET THAT IF CURRENTLY ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS THERE'S ABOUT 9000 TEACHER VACANCIES.

THAT'S JUST TEACHERS.

IF WE FACTOR IN ANY OTHER POSITIONS VERY SIMILAR.

IT'S NOT JUST IN PUBLIC EDUCATION, IT'S THE PRIVATE SECTOR TOO.

AND SO WE'LL WORK AND TRY TO GET THOSE TRENDS AND SHOW AS IT HIT COVID, IT'S BASICALLY ALMOST, I WANT TO SAY, DOUBLE IN OUR VACANCIES THAN WHAT WE TYPICALLY HAD BEFORE OR IN MY OPINION, TOO, I THINK WE'RE IN A FINANCIAL BUBBLE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH INFLATION AND COST, AND AT SOME POINT IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BURST.

WHEN THAT HAPPENS, EDUCATION TYPICALLY GETS FLOODED WITH PEOPLE AND PERSONNEL COMING BACK INTO PUBLIC ED. AND SO IF I COULD ACTUALLY PREDICT THAT I WOULD BE THE HIGHEST PAID CONSULTANT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

BUT WE WILL SHOW SOME TRENDS AND WHAT THAT MAY LOOK LIKE EITHER DIRECTION, BECAUSE ALSO, AS WE INCREASE OUR TEACHER SALARY AND WE ARE SURROUNDED VERY CLOSELY WITH OTHER DISTRICTS, I BELIEVE THAT WILL GET TEACHERS FROM SOME OTHER DISTRICTS THAT SEE OUR PAY SCALE, MY COUSIN.

DR. RINGO, THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ASSUMES FULL FULFILLMENT, RIGHT? CORRECT. THAT'S A FULL OPERATING BUDGET.

EVERY STAFF POSITION FILLED.

YES, SIR. HAVE WE EVER ACHIEVED THAT? NO. NO, SIR. THAT'S.

NEVER. SO WE KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A SAVE OFF OF THAT BUDGET.

YEAH. AND IF WE FACTOR IN THE RAISES IN THE BEGINNINGS, EVERY POSITION SAVED IS EVEN WORTH MORE MONEY THAN IT USED TO BE.

RIGHT? SO IT MAY NOT BE 20 MILLION.

IT MAY BE 25 IF WE STAYED AT THIS CURRENT FULFILLMENT LEVEL.

THAT'S WHAT I'M WANTING TO KNOW.

LARRY AND I HAVE BEEN BEFUDDLED.

IS THAT THE RIGHT WORD, LARRY? YES, SIR. LARRY. NOW, I'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW WE CAN HAVE BREAKEVEN BUDGETS AND PUT TEN OR $15 MILLION IN THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH HAS HAPPENED SEVERAL TIMES, MAYBE EVEN HIGHER.

OUR CURRENT BUDGET, AS WE SAID, WAS 23 MILLION NEGATIVE, BUT WE PUT THREE AND HALF MILLION MAYBE IN THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SPEND IT.

WE DIDN'T COME CLOSE TO SPENDING IT, INTERRUPTED EVERYTHING.

I'M JUST ANTICIPATING THAT THE NEXT COMING YEARS WILL BE A LOT CALMER, A LOT MORE NORMAL,

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SO I DON'T SEE US SAVING.

I DON'T WANT TO BET ON US SAVING THAT MUCH MONEY.

SO WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS ANY KIND OF GUIDANCE I CAN GET FROM YOU AS TO WHAT YOU THINK NEXT YEAR WILL PROBABLY LOOK LIKE SO THAT I CAN TAKE THIS $55 MILLION NUMBER OR 50 OR WHATEVER IT IS AND TRY TO MAKE SOME SENSE OUT OF WHERE THAT MONEY COMES FROM.

MS. GRIFFIN YES, MR. MILLER, YOU INTRODUCED AN INTERESTING WORD AND YOU SAID PLAN.

IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO BETTER IN PLANNING.

AND MY COMMENT IS, IF WE'RE EVER TO GO BACK OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.

IF WE'RE EVER INTENDING TO DO EITHER OF THOSE WORDS THAT I REFUSE TO SAY.

WE HAVE TO CHANGE OUR APPROACH.

ABOUT HOW WE INFORM AND KEEP OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGED WITH THESE HUGE STEPS THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE.

AND AS THE COMMUNITY HAS SAID REPEATEDLY, DO NOT BRING US IN ON THE BACK END.

BRING US IN AT THE BEGINNING.

SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE NOISE IN THE TRI-CITIES, WE NEED TO HAVE THE TAXPAYERS AND CITIZENS THAT CAN HELP US GET ACROSS THESE DIFFICULT BRIDGES.

SO AS WE ARE HERE AT THIS POINT, BEFORE WE WORRY AND I KNOW IT'S A GOOD WORRY ABOUT THESE LINES CROSSING, I THINK WE HAVE A HUGE EDUCATIONAL GAP THAT WE MUST CLOSE AND INFORM OUR CITIZENS SO THEY CAN GO ALONG WITH US WHEN WE ARE HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS.

SO IF NOW IS THE TIME THAT WE PUT TOGETHER, WHATEVER.

BUT I DO KNOW ONE THING DOING A COMMITTEE FOR A PARTICULAR TASK IS NOT WHAT WE NEED.

DOING A COMMITTEE OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND CITIZENS OF VISIONING AND HELPING US UNDERSTAND OR HELPING THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND.

WE HAVE TO START BRINGING THOSE PEOPLE ON BOARD WITH US NOW SO THAT THEY CAN WALK WITH US, TALK WITH US, AND THAT'S ADDITIONAL WORK.

BUT IF WE EVER WANT THOSE TWO THINGS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGED AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR PROCESSES AND KEEP THEM ENGAGED FOREVER, NOT AFTER A PROCESS IS COMPLETED, BUT FOREVER, BECAUSE THEN THEY ARE OUR RIGHT HAND AND OUR GO TO PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. I'LL TRY ONE MORE COMMENT JUST BEFORE WE MOVE ON.

WHAT MISS GRIFFIN AND MR. MILLER ARE TALKING ABOUT WITH LINES CROSSING, YOU HAVE A REVENUE LINE AND AN EXPENDITURE LINE, AND WHEN THEY'RE BOTH PARALLEL, THAT'S POSITIVE.

THAT MEANS YOU HAVE A POSITIVE BALANCE.

WHEN THEY START THE CROSS, YOU HAVE A NEGATIVE BALANCE.

MANY YEARS AGO, DR.

RINGO, YOUR PREDECESSOR, WAS DR.

RENÉ BARAJAS, ONE OF THE MOST RESPECTED CFOS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

HE LEFT US AND I KNOW I THINK HE ENDED I KNOW HE ENDED UP AT THE JOB IN HOUSTON, WHICH WAS THE PRIME JOB IN THE STATE FOR A CFO, THE LARGEST SCHOOL DISTRICT AND ONE OF THE LARGEST IN THE COUNTRY. AND WAY BACK, I WANT TO SAY 2017, HE DID ONE OF THOSE CHARTS AND HE TALKED ABOUT THE LINES CROSSING AND IT WAS VERY SCARY, EXCEPT THEY NEVER CROSSED.

AND THAT'S WHAT HE PREDICTED.

AND HE WAS A GENIUS IN FINANCE, JUST NEVER HAPPENED.

A WHOLE BUNCH OF REASONS WHY WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF BEFORE THE HOUSE BILL THREE.

YES, THEY WOULD HAVE CROSSED YEAH.

AND SO THINGS OF THAT NATURE BUT THEY NEVER THEY NEVER DID CROSS.

WITHOUT 30% PROPERTY INCREASES THEY WOULD HAVE CROSSED, BUT LIKE I'M SAYING.

I AGREE ALL THE FACTORS, BUT NONE OF THOSE FACTORS EVER OCCURRED AND OUR FUND BALANCE

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AND YES, I THINK THE INFORMATION WE WILL NEED IN TWO WEEKS WILL BE VERY HELPFUL.

SO IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, LET'S THEN GO TO ITEM C.

THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ACTION ITEM FOR TWO WEEKS.

C1 CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RECOMMENDATION FOR SALARY SCHEDULE ADDENDUM TCLAS DECISION 3E COLLEGE PREP INCENTIVE PAY.

DR. BROWN. THIS IS ON PAGES 38 AND 39.

GOOD EVENING. CHAIRMAN GLICK, BOARD OF TRUSTEES.

SUPERINTENDENT LOPEZ, I BRING TO YOU THIS EVENING A REQUEST FOR AN ADDENDUM.

THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT ONE.

I GOT IT. THAT IS A PART OF OUR TCLAS GRANT.

AND I KNOW THAT IS AN ACRONYM.

AND WHAT TCLAS STANDS FOR IS TEXAS COVID LEARNING ACCELERATION SUPPORTS.

WE OUR DISTRICT WAS AWARDED ABOUT $12 MILLION FROM THAT GRANT.

AND A PART OF THAT GRANT IS FUNDING THE TEXAS BRIDGE PROGRAM, COLLEGE BRIDGE PROGRAM FOR OUR JUNIOR AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.

IF YOU NEED TO KNOW MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE COLLEGE BRIDGE PROGRAM, I'VE ASKED THE EXPERTS TO BE HERE, AMANDA BENTON AND KEVIN.

THEY ARE THE EXPERTS.

BUT THE COLLEGE BRIDGE PROGRAM ALLOWS JUNIORS AND SENIORS TO BE ABLE TO PREPARE TO PASS THEIR TEST AND THEIR ENGLISH AND MATH COURSES.

AND IN SOME CASES THEY ARE EXEMPT FROM THE TSI EXAM, WHICH STUDENTS HAVE TO PASS IN ORDER TO MOVE PAST THEIR JUNIOR AND SENIOR LEVEL COURSES.

THIS GRANT WAS ACTUALLY TOLD TO US AND REWARD IT TO US.

AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER.

THE PROGRAM HAS SINCE THEN BEEN FLESHED OUT, AND THESE ARE THE STIPENDS THAT WE'RE REQUESTING FOR THAT PROGRAM.

I'M READING FROM THE EXHIBIT NOW.

AND IT WOULD PROVIDE INCENTIVES TO TEACHERS OF ENGLISH COURSES OF OUR COLLEGE BRIDGE COURSES AND TEACHERS OF MATH COURSES.

ALSO, IT WOULD PROVIDE INCENTIVES TO SOME OF OUR COUNSELORS OR ADVISORS, AND IT IS BASED UPON STUDENT SUCCESS IN THE PROGRAM.

YOU CAN SEE THE PAY SCHEDULE THAT WAS PROVIDED BY TCLAS.

WE WILL SPEND 21-22, $425,000.

22-23, $462,000 AND 23-24 $462,00 0 [INAUDIBLE]. I'M OPEN FOR QUESTIONS.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MS. STANLEY.

CAN YOU DEFINE WHAT THE STUDENT'S SUCCESS WOULD BE, THE PASSING OF THE TEST OR WHAT WAS THE SUCCESS? YES, I HAVE SOMEONE HERE WHO CAN GIVE YOU THAT DEFINITION.

THIS IS MISS BENTON.

THANK YOU. SO SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF IT IS DETERMINED BY TEXAS COLLEGE BRIDGE, A THIRD PARTY WHERE IN THE SYSTEM THEY HAVE TO GET WHAT'S CALLED STAGE ONE, WHERE THEY GET A 90% STAGE TWO 90%.

THAT'S FOR MATH. FOR ENGLISH, IT WOULD BE STAGE ONE, 90%, STAGE TWO 90%, AND TO PASS AN ESSAY COMPONENT. AND WHAT THAT THEN DOES IS THERE ARE OVER 50 COLLEGES, HIGHER ED INSTITUTIONS ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT ARE SIGNED ON TO THAT MOU TO EXEMPT THEM FROM THEIR DEVELOPMENTAL COURSES WHEN THEY ENROLL IN THOSE UNIVERSITIES, COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES. SO.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUST ONE.

I'M NOT SURE WHO THIS WOULD BE FOR.

WE'VE HEARD THAT THE STATE MANDATED THAT DISTRICTS PROVIDE TUTORING FOR STUDENTS WHO WERE NOT PASSING EITHER WITH WITH AFTER SCHOOL TUTORING OR WITH OUR SENIOR TEACHERS.

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IS IT COULD IT BE? COULD WE COUNT THESE HOURS FOR THE HOURS THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR THE TUTORING? I KNOW THERE WAS JUST A REPORT THAT DISD HAS SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO COME CLOSE TO BEING ABLE TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THE STATE MANDATED.

I'M NOT ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION FULLY, BUT DR.

RUSSELL CAN. OKAY.

MR. GLICK, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSE BILL 4545.

YES, MA'AM. REQUIRES 30 HOURS OF SPECIFIC TARGETED INSTRUCTION IN THE AREAS FOR STUDENTS IN READING MATH THAT THEY DID NOT PASS ON STAAR.

SO THIS IS A DIFFERENT COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THING THAT WOULD NOT COUNT FOR THAT.

THINGS THAT DO COUNT COULD BE SMALL GROUP INSTRUCTION.

IT DOES ALSO HAVE TO BE IN A SIZE OF THREE STUDENTS OR LESS UNLESS A TEACHER PARENT SIGNS A WAIVER.

BUT THINGS THAT WOULD COUNT FOR THIS WOULD BE INTERVENTION DURING THE SCHOOL DAY, BEFORE AND AFTER SCHOOL TUTORING. LIKE YOU MENTIONED IN HIGH SCHOOL, THOSE ADDITIONAL TRAILER CLASSES WHERE WE PUT THEM BACK IN PRACTICAL WRITING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, COMPUTER BASED INSTRUCTION, ALL OF THOSE THINGS WOULD COUNT FOR IT.

BUT THIS WOULD NOT HELP US WITH 4545.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. YES, MR. SELDERS. THANK YOU.

HOW ARE STUDENTS MADE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS SUPPORT, AND DO WE HAVE ADEQUATE SUPPORT HERE IN TERMS OF THE BREAKDOWNS THAT ARE SHOWN TO BE ANTICIPATED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO COVER THE STUDENTS THAT WE HAVE THAT POTENTIALLY WOULD BENEFIT FROM THIS? SO THE STUDENTS THAT QUALIFY FOR THIS ARE ONES THAT HAVE NOT ALREADY MET.

AND SPECIFICALLY THIS LAW GOES BACK TO HOUSE BILL FIVE AND THAT COVERED SENIORS.

AND BECAUSE OF COVID, THEY'VE EXTENDED IT TO JUNIORS.

SO FOR ONE THING, IT CAN ONLY BE JUNIORS AND SENIORS.

THE OTHER THING IS, YES.

SO I'M ABLE TO PULL WHAT JUNIORS AND SENIORS AND HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT HAVE NOT ALREADY MADE THE COLLEGE READINESS BENCHMARK ON SAT ACT OR TSIA.

AND SO THEN THIS WAS ALREADY THE [INAUDIBLE] THESE COURSES, THESE ADDRESSED THE COLLEGE PREP COURSES THAT ARE ALREADY IN LAW FOR ENGLISH AND FOR MATH FOR THOSE STUDENTS WHO HAVE NOT MET THOSE STANDARDS ON ONE OF THOSE THREE ASSESSMENTS, THEN WE HAVE WHERE WE SEND OUT WE GIVE THEM THEY HAVE SELF ENROLLMENT.

WE HAVE TEACHERS ASSIGNED AT ALL CAMPUSES TO BE ABLE EXCUSE ME, WE HAVE TEACHERS THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS.

AND ONCE WE ARE ABLE TO PUBLICIZE THIS, I'M SURE THAT THERE WILL BE WIDER REACH FOR THAT.

BUT AS FAR AS IDENTIFYING STUDENTS, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

AS FAR AS GETTING THEM TO THE COURSE, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM THERE.

SO. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MR. BEACH, REALLY QUICKLY, JUST THE ANTICIPATED YEARLY BREAKDOWN OF THE OF THE DOLLARS ARE THOSE DOLLARS USED UP EVERY YEAR AS WRITTEN IN OUR BOOKLET, $425,000 FOR 20-21 OR 21-22.

SO THIS THIS WAS ONE OF THE AND THERE MIGHT BE SOME PEOPLE HERE THAT CAN TALK TO THE CLASS A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT THIS WAS PRE FUNDED FOR THE THREE YEARS I WAS ASKED TO KIND OF GIVE A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT WOULD BE THE ANTICIPATED, SINCE I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW EXACTLY WHEN THINGS WILL BE PAID OUT AS FAR AS WHEN ONE BUDGET ENDS AND ONE BUDGET DOESN'T.

THIS IS FOR OVER THE COURSE OF THREE YEARS.

SO I ANTICIPATE THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF THESE STUDENTS THAT COMPLETE THIS OVER THE SUMMER, ESPECIALLY JUNIORS THAT ARE TRYING TO GET THEIR SENIOR RELEASE AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, BUT I WOULD ANTICIPATE MENTIONED ABOUT IF THERE'S MORE KIDS THAT ARE GETTING INVOLVED IN THIS WITH THE DOLLARS

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I DON'T. IT WOULD CONTINUE TO BE IN OUR SALARY SCHEDULE.

OKAY. VERY GOOD.

BIG THING IS WE HAVE TO USE IT UP BY I BELIEVE IT IS, IS END OF MAY 2024.

CORRECT. YEAH, I SAW THAT.

I JUST SAW WHERE IT WAS A GRANT.

I WAS JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO UTILIZE ROLL THOSE DOLLARS IF WE WEREN'T ALL BEING USED IN THAT ONE YEAR TIME FRAME.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

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LOPEZ, YOU'RE GOING TO LOVE THIS ONE.

DOES THIS HELP US WITH CCMR? IT DOES. NO, THAT'S THE THING IS THEY HAVE TO GET FOR THIS PARTICULAR CCMR IT IS UNDER THE TSI COMPONENT, WHICH HAS TO HAVE THE MATH AND THE ENGLISH AND IT CAN USE A MIX MATCH OF SAT ACT, TSIA2 THE ASSESSMENT AND THIS COURSE.

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YOU COULD HAVE A STUDENT THAT ALREADY MET IT IN ENGLISH ON SAT AND THEN DO THE MATH ONE IN THIS COURSE AND BE ABLE TO MEET IT THAT WAY.

YES. WE KNOW HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE GOING TO BE INVOLVED ARE ENROLLED IN THIS WELL.

SO WE WOULD OUTREACH TO ALL OF THE ONES WHO ARE NOT.

IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT. SO, FOR INSTANCE, AT ONE POINT IT MIGHT BE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE REACHING OUT TO THOSE JUNIORS, YOU COULD HAVE AS MANY AS 2500 RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN AS THEY START CHIPPING DOWN AND DOING THE DIFFERENT ASSESSMENTS LIKE THEY TOOK SAT SCHOOL DAY TODAY YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME THAT COME OUT OF THAT POOL AND YOU'LL START TO SEE MORE COME OUT OF THE POOL.

BUT ANY STUDENT, FOR INSTANCE, ANY STUDENT THAT EVEN HAD CCMR FOR SOMETHING ELSE, SUCH AS THEIR CERTIFICATE OR FOR ANYTHING THAT'S IN THE CAREER READINESS, IF THEY HAVE NOT MADE THE COLLEGE READINESS BENCHMARK, THEY'RE STILL ELIGIBLE FOR THIS.

SO WE DON'T EXCLUDE THEM FOR THIS BECAUSE THIS HAS TO DO WITH GETTING THEY CAN ALSO FOR THEM EXEMPT FROM THOSE DEVELOPMENTAL COURSES.

SO THERE'S WIN WIN FOR THIS.

IT'S GOOD FOR THE STUDENTS AND GOOD FOR THE TEACHERS AND GOOD FOR COLLEGE READINESS ALTOGETHER. GOOD, THANKS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

LET'S GO TO ITEM C2 CONSIDER APPROVAL OF BUDGET TRANSFERS AND AMENDMENTS TO THE 2021 2022 GENERAL FUND. MS. MAYO, PAGES 40 TO 42.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN GLICK, BOARD OF TRUSTEES.

DR. LOPEZ. I'M PREPARED TO PRESENT.

SORRY WE MAY BE THERE.

THE APRIL BUDGET AMENDMENT.

IF YOU CAN DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO PAGE 40, THIS WE ARE NOT INCREASING OR DECREASING THE BUDGET. WE ARE ONLY PRESENTING NORMAL OPERATION CROSS FUNCTION TRANSFERS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

LET'S GO TO C3.

CONSIDER APPROVAL OF TASB RISK MANAGEMENT FUND INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.

MR. BOOKER PAGES 43 TO 57.

TO MR. GLICK, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO DR.

LOPEZ. WE DO HAVE BEFORE YOU A INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WHICH IS REQUIRED BY STATUTE FOR THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO PASS.

IT ALLOWS US TO PARTICIPATE IN THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOL BOARDS RISK MANAGEMENT FUND. JOHN KING, RISK MANAGER, HAS RECOMMENDED IT FOR APPROVAL AND MYSELF OR BRANDY MAYO CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE REGARDING THE INTERLOCAL.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BOOKER OR MS. MAYO? SEEING NONE, SIR. LET'S GO TO ITEM C4 NEW BIDS A AND B, SIR.

YES, SIR. THE FIRST CONTRACT BEFORE YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS THE PURCHASE OF PEACE OFFICER SECURITY AS A DISTRICT WIDE.

THIS IS A SUPPLEMENT TO OUR EXISTING CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE FOR SECURITY OFFICERS.

THERE IS AN ATTACHED LIST OF OFFICERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE APPROVED TO BE USED.

THE NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT FOR THAT CONTRACT.

IT'S $1.5 MILLION OR EXCUSE ME, THAT IS CONFIDENTIAL ON MY PACKAGE, BUT THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY IS LISTED IN YOUR HANDOUT.

YEAH. I THINK WE RECEIVED THAT YESTERDAY.

LINDA. LINDA, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. BUT BASICALLY, THAT'S THE SUPPLEMENT TO OUR EXISTING CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES FOR OUR AFTER SCHOOL EVENTS AND OTHER EVENTS.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY? YES, MISS STANLEY.

SINCE I'M NEW.

CAN YOU JUST KIND OF EXPLAIN TO ME WHY WE NEED THE EXTRA SECURITY OFFICERS? ALL OF THE MUNICIPALITIES HAVE RESTRICTIONS ON HOW MUCH TIME THOSE POLICE OFFICERS CAN WORK OVERTIME.

WE ALSO HAVE RETIREMENTS EACH YEAR FROM THOSE FORCES.

THIS IS A SUPPLEMENT TO CONTINUE TO ADD OFFICERS TO WORK THOSE AFTER SCHOOL EVENTS, GRADUATION AND OTHER EVENTS THAT REQUIRE LICENSED PEACE OFFICERS TO BE PRESENT.

SO WE ACTUALLY CONTRACT BY NAME.

YES. AND SO AS THOSE NAMES BECOME NOT USABLE ANYMORE, WE HAVE TO ADD THE NAME.

SO IT'S NOT WE'RE NOT CONTRACTING 100 POLICE OFFICERS.

WE CONTRACT INDIVIDUAL OFFICERS.

WE CONTRACT INDIVIDUAL OFFICERS.

THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. BOOKER, JUST ONE ON THE LAST PAGE OF THAT OUR PAGE 61, WHERE IT LISTS ALL THE OFFICERS ONE THROUGH 33, AND IT HAS JURISDICTIONS IN EACH OF THE THREE CITIES CHECKED.

THAT MEANS THEY CAN.

THAT MEANS THEY HAVE AUTHORITY TO TO MAKE ARRESTS IN THOSE JURISDICTIONS.

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I'LL DEFER TO MR. QUINN IF HE'S HERE.

WELL, SINCE WE HAVE EVENTS IN GARLAND, ROWLETT AND SACHSE, WE HAVE CONTRACTED WITH THOSE SPECIFIC CITIES TO WORK THOSE EVENTS.

SO YES, THOSE CITIES WILL HAVE THOSE OFFICERS WORKING SO THEY CAN MAKE ARRESTS IF NEEDED.

SO AS AN EXAMPLE, A GARLAND POLICE OFFICER WORKING AT A ROWLETT BASEBALL GAME IS ALLOWED TO MAKE AN ARREST. THEY WILL BE WITH A ROWLETT OFFICER ALSO.

ON THEIR OWN THEY CANNOT.

DEPENDS ON THE OFFENSE, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE THE ROWLETT OFFICER MAKE THE ARREST.

OK I GOT IT. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OK SIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

LET'S GO TO ITEM B.

CONSIDER APPROVAL OF PURCHASE OF LARGE AND SMALL EQUIPMENTS, SUPPLIES, PARTS AND SERVICES FOR STUDENT NUTRITION SERVICES.

YES, SIR. THIS IS THE CONTRACT UTILIZED BY OUR STUDENT NUTRITIONAL SERVICES TO PROVIDE LARGE AND SMALL EQUIPMENT.

IT'S A NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF $1,500,000.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

LET'S GO TO RENEWAL BIDS 5A CONSIDER APPROVAL OF PURCHASE OF CANINE DETECTION SERVICES.

YES, SIR. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SERVICES IN WHICH WE ARE INCREASING THE H1 CANINE CONSULTANTS IS THE PROVIDER OF THE SERVICES.

THIS IS $150,000 AND NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MISS STANLEY.

WHAT IS IT? I'M GOING TO BE HONEST.

THESE ARE THE CONTRACTED PROVIDERS WHO COME IN AND PROVIDE K-9 SEARCHES IN OUR SCHOOLS WHERE WE'RE INCREASING THE ACTUAL FREQUENCY FROM THREE DAYS A WEEK TO FIVE DAYS A WEEK.

IF WE USE THE TERM DRUG DOGS, WOULD THAT BE APPROPRIATE? I WOULD. I'M NOT SURE. I JUST THAT'S THE TERM I'VE HEARD.

THEY SEARCH NARCOTICS, BUT THEY ALSO SEARCH, THEY ARE ABLE TO SEARCH WEAPONS.

THEY CAN SNIFF GUNPOWDER.

SO IT'S MORE THAN JUST NARCOTICS.

OKAY. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU.

AND MR. BOOKER, ITEM SIX INCREASED TO AWARDED BIDS.

AND SERVICES. THIS IS THE AWARD OF CONTRACTOR FLORES TECHNICAL SERVICES.

THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT IS $475,000.

DISTRICT IS REQUESTING AN ADDITIONAL $250,000 TO DO AN UPGRADE OF OUR SECURITY SYSTEMS. IN YOUR MEMORANDUM, MR. QUINN HAS IDENTIFIED THE PURPOSE OF THAT UPGRADES TO OUR CAMERA SYSTEMS AS WELL AS ACCESS CONTROL POINTS.

ANY QUESTIONS OF COURSE, MR. QUINN IS CERTAINLY ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE.

MR. MILLER.

EXCUSE ME, NOT REALLY A QUESTION, BUT TO THE COMMENT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE GROWN TO APPRECIATE.

MR. GLICK WITHIN THE DISTRICT IS THE EYES AND EARS THAT HAVE PROVIDED TO OUR CAMPUSES FOR PROTECTION WITH RESPECT TO ALL KINDS OF ISSUES THAT GOES ON EITHER DURING OR AFTER SCHOOL. AND SO THINGS LIKE THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY'S HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO SPEND ANY TIME IN THE DEPARTMENT AND THE MONITORING DEVICES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

BUT I'M ONE OF THOSE WITH ALL THE STUFF THAT'S GOING ON IN SCHOOLS THESE DAYS I LIKE MORE RATHER THAN LESS, AND IT HELPS TO PROTECT AND PROVIDE THAT SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR KIDS.

SO I'M GLAD TO SEE ITEMS LIKE THIS ON THE AGENDA.

AND COULD YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE? I MEAN, I AGREE WITH COMPLETELY WITH MR. MILLER'S COMMENTS. YEAH, I THINK I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR THE FOR THE PUBLIC WHO'S WATCHING TO UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS.

THOSE CLOSED CIRCUIT TELEVISION CAMERAS THAT WE HAVE.

WE HAVE NUMEROUS SEVERAL HUNDRED THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT, EVERY SCHOOL, EVERY SCHOOL, HARRIS HILL, ALL OUR ADMIN BUILDINGS.

SO, YES, WE HAVE WE CAN WATCH MANY, MANY CAMERAS AT ONCE.

WE HAVE A BRAND NEW DISPATCH CENTER THAT'S STATE OF THE ART.

IT'S INCREDIBLE.

SO, YES, WE WE CAN WATCH SEVERAL ITEMS AT ONCE.

ANYBODY ELSE, SIR? THANK YOU, MR. BOOKER. LET'S GO TO ITEM 6B APPROVAL INCREASE IN AWARDED AMOUNTS FOR COMMODITY PROCESSING. YES.

WE'VE BEEN REQUESTED BY THE STUDENT NUTRITIONAL SERVICES TO REQUEST AN ADDITIONAL $2 MILLION TO PROCESS OUR FEDERALLY PROVIDED COMMODITIES INTO PROCESSED FOOD.

THIS WILL ALLOW THE STUDENT NUTRITIONAL SERVICES TO CONTINUE THEIR MENU PREPARATIONS FOR

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ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BOOKER, SIR? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DR.

LOPEZ. ANY NEED FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION? NO, SIR. IT'S NOW 5:18, 5:19.

IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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