Sep 13, 2022 Special Board Meetings

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GOOD MORNING. IT IS 11:03 AND THIS IS A CALLED SPECIAL MEETING OF THE GARLAND INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF TRUSTEES I WILL CERTIFY THERE IS A QUORUM PRESENT.

[I. Call to Order and Determination of a Quorum]

MS. HOGAN, DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS? THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR THIRD ITEM, WHICH IS DISCUSSION OF LONG RANGE FACILITIES PLANNING.

[III. A. Discussion of Long-Range Facilities Planning]

LOPEZ. TODAY WE ARE DOING OUR SECOND LONG RANGE FACILITY DISCUSSION.

MR. GREG MCINTYRE WITH TRANSCEND FOUR WAS HERE WITH US ON AUGUST 20TH, THAT SATURDAY TO HAVE OUR INITIAL DISCUSSION.

THIS WILL BE THE SECOND OF THAT DISCUSSION.

AND WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. MCINTYRE TO FACILITATE TODAY'S CONVERSATION.

THANK YOU. DR. RINGO.

PRESIDENT. BOARD MEMBER.

SUPERINTENDENT. EXCITED TO BE BACK AGAIN AS A FOLLOW UP TO OUR SESSION THAT WE HAD BACK IN AUGUST.

IF YOU'LL RECALL IN AUGUST WE TALKED ABOUT COMING TOGETHER AND TAKING A LOOK AT OUR LIST OF PRIORITIES, LIST OF PLANNING PRIORITIES, AND ALSO TAKING TIME TO DEVELOP THE CHARGE STATEMENT SHOULD WE DECIDE TO PULL A COMMITTEE TOGETHER, A PLANNING COMMITTEE TOGETHER.

WITH REGARD TO THE PRIORITY AREAS DURING THE AUGUST 20TH WORKSHOP, YOU MIGHT RECALL THAT WE DISCUSSED PRIORITY CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE PLANNING COMMITTEE.

SO WHEN WE PULL THE PLANNING COMMITTEE TOGETHER, THEY'RE FULLY AWARE OF THE BOARD'S PRIORITIES AND CONSIDERATIONS.

AND ALSO, WHENEVER WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, THAT WAS SIMPLY A FIRST LOOK AND A VERY FIRST DISCUSSION FOR THE BOARD TO COME TOGETHER AS A TEAM AND REALLY TALK ABOUT, SO WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES AS WE LOOK AHEAD FOR THE DISTRICT? AND AS A REMINDER, NO ACTION WAS TAKEN DURING THAT WORKSHOP ON AUGUST 20TH.

AT THAT TIME, WHEN WE MET IN THE WORKSHOP IN AUGUST, THE BOARD IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF ITEMS AS PRIORITIES.

AND WHAT I DID WAS AS WE MET, I TOOK NOTES AND JOTTED THOSE NOTES, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT HOPEFULLY I WAS ABLE TO CAPTURE JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT WAS MENTIONED ON THAT DAY.

BUT YOU'LL SEE ON THIS SLIDE THAT WE HAVE ITEMS SUCH AS TRANSPORTATION BEING A PRIORITY, MULTI-USE BUILDINGS, SOME ALSO PORTABLE BUILDINGS, ELEMENTARY REPLACEMENT FIELD HOUSES, AN EXTENSION OF THE CTE CENTER, OBVIOUSLY SAFETY AND SECURITY. AND AS YOU'LL NOTICE, I HIGHLIGHTED JUST A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT LOOK LIKE, WELL, THEY WERE LISTED MORE THAN ONCE.

AND SO, FOR INSTANCE, SAFETY AND SECURITY, YOU'LL SEE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW ON THIS SLIDE AND THEN ALSO ON YELLOW ON THE SECOND SLIDE WHERE IT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT PERIMETER CHAIN LINK FENCING.

BUT THE CONCERN AROUND THAT WAS WHAT LEVEL OF SECURITY DOES THAT PROVIDE FOR OUR STUDENTS AND STAFF? A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS I HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN.

AGE OF AND CONDITION OF CAMPUSES WAS MENTIONED, AGE OF HVAC AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

AND SO AS WE AS A BOARD TAKE A LOOK AT THE PRIORITY AREAS THAT WE LISTED ON THAT SATURDAY, AND I THINK YOU HAVE COPIES, HARD COPIES OF THIS AT YOUR PLACE AS WELL.

WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO THIS MORNING IS TAKE SOME TIME ON THESE CHART PAPER, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SCRIBE HERE IN JUST A SECOND ON CHART PAPER TO LIST THE PRIORITY AREAS.

NOW THAT WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THEM A SECOND TIME AND ALSO CONSIDER COLLAPSING A FEW OF THESE INTO THE SAME ITEM.

FOR INSTANCE, THE ONE THAT I MENTIONED A SECOND AGO ABOUT SAFETY AND SECURITY, I WOULD THINK THAT ON CHART PAPER WE COULD LIST SAFETY AND SECURITY AS A PRIORITY AREA FOR THE PLANNING COMMITTEE.

AND SO WE DON'T HAVE TO LIST THAT TWO AND THREE TIMES.

IT'S ONE ITEM THAT WAS CAPTURED WHENEVER WE SPOKE ON AUGUST 20TH IN THE WORKSHOP.

AFTERWARDS, JUST SO YOU KNOW, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A GLIMPSE OF THE ACTIVITY FOR THIS MORNING, ONCE WE FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT WE'VE LISTED ALL THE ITEMS ON CHART PAPER, EACH ONE OF YOU HAS WHAT I CALL FIVE, FIVE VOTING DOTS, OR REALLY FIVE PREFERENCE DOTS.

AND SO ONCE WE HAVE THOSE ITEMS LISTED ON CHART PAPER, EACH ONE OF YOU HAS FIVE DOTS SO THAT YOU CAN PLACE A DOT NEXT TO THE ITEM THAT YOU FEEL MOST STRONGLY ABOUT. AND YOU WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO SEE THE PLANNING COMMITTEE USE WHENEVER THEY COME TOGETHER OVER THESE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

WHEN YOU USE YOUR DOTS, IF YOU FEEL PARTICULARLY STRONG ABOUT ONE ITEM, YOU CAN PUT TWO OR THREE OF YOUR DOTS OR EVEN ALL FIVE OF YOUR DOTS ON ONE ITEM IF YOU WANT TO.

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SO DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT ONE DOT HAS TO GO JUST FOR ONE ITEM.

IF YOU IF YOU FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT ONE, FOR INSTANCE, SAFETY AND SECURITY, YOU CAN CERTAINLY PUT A FEW OF THEM ON THERE.

BUT EACH ONE OF US AS A BOARD MEMBER HAS FIVE VOTING DOTS.

SO WHAT I'D LIKE FOR US TO DO NOW.

YES, SIR. BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I DO.

ON THE PRIORITY AREAS.

LET'S GO TO THE SECOND SLIDE, PLEASE.

ON THE SECOND SLIDE, WE HAVE $561 MILLION IN PBK STUDY, THAT INCLUDES ALL PRIORITY ONES, RIGHT? YES. AND THEN WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL $527 MILLION THAT INCLUDES OUR PRIORITY TWOS.

THAT'S A BIG, BROAD GENERAL TYPE OF THING, YOU KNOW, YOU PUT IT THERE AND YOU'RE LIKE, WHAT AM I GETTING FOR THAT $561? AND WHAT I WANTED THE BOARD TO UNDERSTAND, THERE'S, THERE'S PRIORITY ONES IN THE PBK AND I'M ONLY GOING TO FOCUS ON THE PRIORITY ONES, NOT THE TWOS.

THERE ARE SOME COMMONALITIES FOR EACH GRADE LEVEL FOR THESE PRIORITY ONES.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE HIGH SCHOOLS, OF COURSE, YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO DEAL WITH THESE PRIORITIES.

PLUMBING, ROOFING, HVAC.

ALL RIGHT. SO YOU CAN CHECK THOSE THREE.

BUT ALSO, IT'S DANCE SUITE MODIFICATIONS AND ADDITIONS WITHIN EACH OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS BECAUSE THE DANCE SUITES ARE REALLY, REALLY IN BAD SHAPE OR NOT REALLY DANCE SUITES, THEY'RE JUST CONVERTED CLASSROOMS. THERE'S ALSO LOCKER ROOM, WEIGHT ROOM, FIELDHOUSE RENOVATIONS IN EACH OF THOSE.

THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE EXPANDING THEM.

IT JUST INCLUDES IT JUST INCLUDES RE MODIFYING THEM, YOU KNOW, GIVING AN UPDATE.

ALSO INCLUDED IN THAT IN ALL THE HIGH SCHOOLS IS GOING TO BE LIGHTING AND TURF FOR SOFTBALL AND BASEBALL.

BOTH OF THEM HAVE TO GO HAND IN HAND FOR TITLE NINE COMPLIANCE.

SO IN THE HIGH SCHOOLS, YOU WILL HAVE ALL THAT INFRASTRUCTURE STUFF PLUS THOSE.

IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING AT LOCKER ROOM RENOVATIONS AND ALL 12 OF THE SCHOOLS, PLUS THE HVAC, THE PLUMBING AND THE ROOFING. AND THEN FINALLY, IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SITE FENCING AT ALL 47 CAMPUSES TO HELP ENCLOSE THEM.

THAT'LL BE KIND OF GOING IN THE SECURITY AREA.

AND YOU'RE LOOKING FOR PLAYGROUND IMPROVEMENTS AT ALL 47 CAMPUSES, WHICH MEANS THERE WILL BE A PLAYGROUND AT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN THIS PRIORITY ONE AREA TO INCLUDE PLUMBING, HVAC AND OF COURSE, YOUR ROOFING.

SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT, THOSE THOSE ARE EMBEDDED IN IT.

AND ONE OTHER THING, SO WHEN WE LOOK AT LET'S JUST SAY THE HIGH SCHOOLS AND WE'RE DOING TURF REPLACEMENT AND LIGHTS, THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ADDING CANOPIES AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE DUGOUT REPAIR.

SO THOSE ARE THE ADDED THINGS THAT WOULD COME FROM IT.

FOR THE PLAYGROUNDS, IT DOESN'T INCLUDE HAVING A CANOPY OVER THE PLAYGROUND.

THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL COST.

SO THESE ARE VERY EXPENSIVE PLAYGROUNDS WITH CIVIL ENGINEERING AND EVERYTHING.

BUT IF WE WANTED TO PROTECT THE INVESTMENT, THAT WOULD BE AN ADDED COST TO ADD THOSE THINGS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A VERY HIGH LEVEL OF WHAT COMES IN THE $561 MILLION PACKAGE.

SO AS YOU GUYS ARE MAKING YOUR YOUR PRIORITIES ON WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO CHARGE THE COMMITTEE WITH OR THE FUTURE COMMITTEE WITH, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE PRIORITY ONES HAVE THOSE THINGS IN COMMON.

THANK YOU, SIR. YES, MA'AM.

YES. CAN YOU HELP ME EXPLAIN HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW I AM TO USE THE INFORMATION FROM THE FACILITIES ASSESSMENT THAT WE HAVE AS IT RELATES TO THESE CATEGORIES, BECAUSE THE CATEGORIES DO NOT LINE UP TO SCHOOLS, BUT WHEN WE START LOOKING AT PROJECTS, WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT SCHOOLS.

ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT SCHOOLS, WHICH MEANS WE'RE NOT USING THIS DATA AND THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE EVERYTHING ON THESE CATEGORY AREAS? NO, I WOULD SAY YOU WOULD CERTAINLY TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

AND AS WE PULL A COMMUNITY GROUP TOGETHER, THAT IN ORDER FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BOARD'S PRIORITIES ARE AS THEY COME TOGETHER FOR A FIRST TIME AND AND HEAR THE COMMUNICATION FROM THE BOARD, WHAT ARE THOSE PRIORITY AREAS THAT YOU AS A TEAM WOULD LIKE FOR

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YES, MA'AM. ARE WE MAKING AN ASSUMPTION THAT THIS BOARD HAS AGREED ON ALL PRIORITY ONES? AND BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO I'M TRYING OK WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET CLARITY ON THIS, MA'AM, IS WHEN DO WE AS A BOARD REVIEW THE PRIORITY ONE LIST AND EITHER SAY WE'LL GO WITH ALL OF THEM OR WE'RE NOT? AND HOW AND I UNDERSTAND THIS AREA OF CATEGORIES I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DOES THIS DATA WITH DETAILED DATA PER CAMPUS FITS IN TO HOW WE MAKE THE DECISION? I'M SITTING HERE STRUGGLING BECAUSE I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW I CAN CHOOSE THIS BECAUSE I CAME UP WITH THESE IN OUR LAST MEETING OF WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

NOW WE'RE GETTING DOWN TO THE SPECIFICS, AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW DO I USE THIS INFORMATION FROM PBK TO HELP ME IN THE AREAS THAT I PUT ON THE CLIPBOARD? AND I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

MS. GRIFFIN WE HAVE ALSO ONE OF THE THINGS AS KIND OF ANCILLARY TO THIS DISCUSSION IS THE DISCUSSION REGARDING POTENTIAL SCHOOL CONSOLIDATION.

AND OBVIOUSLY, IF SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO BE CONSOLIDATED, THEY'RE GOING TO COME OFF THE PB K STUDY.

AND SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY EVEN KNOW IF IT'S $561 MILLION IN PBK PRIORITY ONES OR IF IT'S SOMETHING LESS THAN THAT.

BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, IF A SCHOOL ISN'T HERE, THEN WE DON'T NEED TO DO THE PRIORITY ONE WORK FOR IT.

SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING ELSE WE NEED TO CONSIDER BEFORE WE MAKE THE DECISION ON WHETHER WE GO WITH THAT.

SO FOR CLARITY, EVERY CAMPUS HAS A PRIORITY ONE ISSUE OK EVERY CAMPUS.

SO IF EVERY CAMPUS HAS A PRIORITY ONE ISSUE, IF THE BOARD FEELS THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE ONE OF THE COMMITTEES CHARGE TO INCORPORATE ALL THE PRIORITY ONES THAT WOULD MAKE SURE EVERY CAMPUS GETS TOUCHED WITH ROOFING OR HVAC OR DRAINAGE.

ALL THE HIGH SCHOOLS, LIKE WE SAID, ARE GOING TO HAVE TURF.

SO THEN WHEN YOU LOOK UP THEIR TURF, BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL, THAT COMES OFF BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE $561.

SO AS YOU'RE MAKING THESE DECISIONS THAT'S ALREADY INCORPORATED WITH THE $561 MILLION PACKAGE.

IN ALL FAIRNESS, EVERYTHING IS HERE.

NOW, WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE FACILITY STUDY, LET'S SAY FOR SOME OF OUR CAMPUSES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT HAVE THE MOST NEED.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO MENTION ANYONE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT RUMORS TO START, BUT LET'S SAY WE'LL CALL IT CAMPUS A.

CAMPUS A REALLY HAS THE MOST NEED.

IT NEEDS TO BE IT NEEDS TO BE REDONE.

SO WE MAY HAVE TO CREATE A CONSOLIDATION PLAN FOR THAT.

AND THEN THAT WOULD TAKE OFF ANY OF THE PRIORITY ONES OFF OF THE $561, IF ANY OF THOSE CAME UP.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT PERIMETER CHAIN LINK FENCING FOR SECURITY, WE KNOW PART OF THE $561 MILLION PACKAGE INCLUDES THAT IN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

SO IF WE'RE IF WE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S IN THAT BIG PACKAGE OF $561 IN PRIORITY ONES, THEN SOME OF THIS SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE THERE WOULD FALL OFF OR WE COULD ADD MORE.

SUCH AS IF WE WANTED TO DO THE TURFING PRIORITY ONE.

AND THEN WE SAID, WELL, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO TURF, MIGHT AS WELL DO IT RIGHT.

WE'LL PUT CANOPIES AND DO THE DUGOUTS AS WELL.

THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE.

YOU MAY CONTINUE, MR. [INAUDIBLE]. THANK YOU.

AND THAT'S AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE THAT IF IF THE BOARD WERE TO CHOOSE TO LIST ON THE CHART PAPER PRIORITY ONES FROM THE PBK STUDY, THEN CERTAINLY WE WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IS REMAINING ON THE LIST AND ASK OURSELVES, DOES THAT STILL NEED TO BE LISTED? IF SAFETY AND SECURITY ITEMS ARE IN THE WE FEEL ARE IN THE PRIORITY ONES AND ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED, THEN WE MIGHT NOT NEED TO GO AHEAD AND ADD SOMETHING LIKE DR.

LOPEZ SAID, PERIMETER CHAIN LINK FENCING, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE PRIORITY ONES.

IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE OTHER EXAMPLES THAT YOU LISTED LIKE PLUMBING AND HVAC AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AS PRIORITY ONES.

NOW, ONCE WE LIST ALL OF OUR ITEMS, EACH BOARD MEMBER STILL GETS THE CHANCE TO GO AHEAD OR WE'LL HAVE THE THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE YOUR

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AND THE ONES THAT RECEIVE THE MOST VOTES OR THE DOTS ARE THE ONES THAT THE BOARD FEELS THAT NEED PARTICULAR ATTENTION AS WE PULL THAT COMMITTEE TOGETHER AND THEY START TO DO THEIR WORK. SO IF THERE ARE ITEMS THAT WE'D LIKE TO START LISTING AS PRIORITIES TO COMMUNICATE TO THE PLANNING COMMITTEE, NOW WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO START DOING THAT.

AND THEN LATER WE'LL GET UP OUT OF OUR SEATS AND THEN PLACE OUR DOTS WHERE WE FEEL LIKE THAT THEY NEED TO BE.

AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER AS A SCRIBE.

DR. RINGO IS GOING TO SERVE AS OUR SCRIBE.

SO THAT WE CAN LIST SOME OF THE ITEMS AS A BOARD THAT WE'D LIKE TO COMMUNICATE TO THE COMMITTEE WHAT OUR AREAS OF PRIORITY ARE THAT WE'D LIKE FOR THEM TO PAY PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO. ARE THERE ANY THAT STAND OUT? LET'S JUST START BY PUTTING THE PRIORITY ONE.

OKAY. LET'S GO AHEAD AND LIST PRIORITY ONE.

SO IT'D BE OUR PRIORITY ONE ITEMS FROM THE PBK STUDY.

THAT SHOWS UP A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN DOESN'T IT.

SO WE HAVE OUR PRIORITY ONE ITEMS FROM THE PBK STUDY AND THEN OTHER ITEMS FROM THE LIST THAT WE WORKED ON BACK IN AUGUST.

[INAUDIBLE] I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT ONE ITEM THE PORTABLES WHEN THE PBK STUDY WAS DONE, THAT WAS NOT NECESSARILY ALL PRIORITY ONE.

SO WHAT WE DID HIGHLIGHT HERE ON THE SLIDE FOR YOU FOR CLARITY WAS PORTABLES.

IF WE WERE TO ADDRESS PORTABLES AT 36 CAMPUSES AND VARIATIONS OF THE PROPERTIES, ONES ALL THE WAY UP TO THREE, IT IS ROUGHLY $146 MILLION FOR 36 CAMPUSES.

OF THOSE 36 CAMPUSES, 26 BASED OFF CAPACITY WOULD HAVE NEW ADDITIONS AT THE CAMPUS.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT VARIANCE IN THE PORTABLES ASPECT IN THE DISCUSSIONS.

SO WE'RE SAYING IN LOOKING AT THIS PARTICULAR PRIORITY AREA FOR THE COMMITTEE PRIORITIES ONE, TWO AND THREE, UNDERNEATH THAT HEADING, ALL OF THOSE ARE LISTED ONE, TWO AND THREE.

IN OTHER WORDS, FOR AN EXAMPLE, ME, I MEAN, I'M SITTING HERE, WHERE IT AFFECTS MOST STUDENTS, AND THAT'S HVAC ROOFS AND PLUMBING, BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAD 52 LEAKS IN 52 BUILDINGS WHEN WE HAD THAT NINE INCH RAIN.

SO I KNOW THAT ROOFING IS GOING TO BE A MAJOR ISSUE AND I KNOW THAT WE NEED TO THAT OUGHT TO BE A PRIORITY.

SO I'M I'M KIND OF CONFUSED ON IF WE LIST ALL THE PRIORITY ONE IS THAT INCLUDE THAT ONE, TWO AND THREE OVER THERE ALSO.

NO, THAT'S JUST THE PRIORITY ONE.

IT'LL BE CAMPUSES WHERE THE ROOF WAS JUST REPLACED UNDER THE 14 BOND PROGRAM AND THAT WOULD FALL INTO PRIORITY THREE, MEANING IT IS NOT A TRUE NEED AT THIS TIME.

WHEN YOU HAVE HVAC ONE THROUGH THREE.

SO THERE ARE SOME HVAC IN PRIORITY ONE.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. GLICK. THANK YOU.

[INAUDIBLE] TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN CATEGORY PRIORITY ONE AND PRIORITY TWO, SINCE IT'S ALREADY BEEN EIGHT YEARS SINCE OUR LAST BOND.

DEPENDING ON WHAT WE DO TODAY, IT'LL BE AT LEAST NINE YEARS.

AND WHEN WE STARTED THIS WHOLE PROCESS, I THINK MY THOUGHTS WERE PRIORITY ONE IS, AS IT SAYS, WAS THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS AND PRIORITY TWO WAS 3 TO 5 YEARS.

SO ARE WE NOT INCORPORATING ANY OF THE PRIORITY TWOS KNOWING THAT OUR HISTORY IS NOT TO DO BONDS VERY

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THANK YOU, SIR. PAUL, GO AHEAD.

AND YOU CAN ANSWER THE ISSUE.

BUT I WILL POINT OUT, MR. GLICK, WE'VE LITERALLY JUST WROTE ONE THING ON THE BOARD.

NO ONE'S EXCLUDED PRIORITY TWOS FROM THE CHARGE OF THIS COMMITTEE.

NO ONE. I MEAN, IF YOU THINK PRIORITY TWO SHOULD BE ON THERE, SPEAK UP AND ADD IT ON THERE.

BUT YOU'RE LIKE, WHY ARE WE NOT DOING PRIORITY TWOS? I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T MADE A DECISION TO NOT DO PRIORITY TWOS.

IT'S NOT A DECISION OR A NON DECISION.

IT'S THE WAY IT'S LISTED, INCORPORATING SIGNIFICANT DOLLARS FROM THE PRIORITY ONES, POTENTIALLY ALL OF THOSE DOLLARS.

AND ARE WE GOING TO PICK AND CHOOSE THE PRIORITY TWOS? THAT'S, IN MY OPINION, ARE SIGNIFICANTLY IMPORTANT.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE THAT DECISION? I MEAN, THERE'S A WHOLE BOOK LISTING PRIORITY TWOS HERE FOR HALF A BILLION DOLLARS.

AGAIN, WE WON'T MAKE THAT DECISION THE COMMITTEE WILL MAKE.

BUT YOU SEE, THAT'S A PERFECT THING TO SAY, MR. GLICK, THAT YOU WANT THEM TO CHARGE TO COME UP WITH PRIORITIES FOR PRIORITY TWOS, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH IT THAT COULD BE PART OF THE CHARGE FOR THIS COMMITTEE THAT THEY GO THROUGH PRIORITY TWOS AND THEY THEY PRESENT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS TO US ON WHAT PRIORITY TWOS NEED TO BE.

WELL, IF BY DEFINITION WE'RE STARTING WITH THE PRIORITY ONE, I THINK WE ARE.

I THINK WE HAVE TO.

THEN SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE AS OUR BUILDINGS AGE AND THE STUDY, WHICH IS AGAIN MULTIPLE YEARS OLD ALREADY AND GETTING OLDER AND INFLATION IS INCREASING, INCLUDING JUST AS WE HEARD TODAY.

I MEAN, THE LONGER WE WAIT ON THE PRIORITY TWO'S THE WORSE IT'S GOING TO GET FOR COSTS AND THE WORSE IT'S GOING TO GET FOR THE CONDITION OF OUR SCHOOLS.

SO ANY WAY YOU WANT TO LEARN IT.

DR. LOPEZ I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, BUT I THINK A GOOD PORTION OF PRIORITY TWO IS HAVE TO BE IN CHARGE.

THANK YOU.

YES. DR. LOPEZ, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS ADVENTURE WITH THIS NEW ASSESSMENT, WE FIRST STARTED TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT WE DIDN'T GET DONE, THAT WE WANTED TO BE DONE IN THE 2014 BOND PROGRAM, JUST LIKE WE WERE TODAY.

WE HAD MORE NEEDS THAN FUNDING TO IDENTIFY, TO ADDRESS ALL THOSE ISSUES.

THAT WAS THE VERY FIRST THING THAT WE LOOKED AT, THINGS THAT WE DID NOT GET ACCOMPLISHED THAT ON THE LAST BOND PROGRAM.

SO WE LOOKED AT THOSE, THOSE ITEMS WORKING WITH PBK, WE ALSO LOOKED AT LIFECYCLE FOR THE EQUIPMENT LIFECYCLE FOR THE DIFFERENT PRODUCTS THAT WE HAD AND DIFFERENT DIFFERENT BUILDING ENVELOPE ISSUES, MANUFACTURER RECOMMENDATIONS.

IT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WE WENT THROUGH A PROCESS AND WE MET WITH PBK AND THEN WE IDENTIFIED THESE WERE PRIORITY TWOS ON THE LAST BOND PROGRAM OR PRIORITY THREES, BUT THEY DIDN'T GET DONE.

THEY HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED ON THIS BOND PROGRAM.

ROOFS IS A GREAT GREAT ROOFS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE.

THERE WAS ROOFS THAT WERE RIGHT ON THAT TEETER, TEETER TOTTER LINE RIGHT THERE.

THEY NEEDED TO GO TO PRIORITY, TO A LOWER PRIORITY.

WE DIDN'T GET THEM DONE.

THEY'RE ON PRIORITY ONES NOW.

ANOTHER ONE IS CHILLERS.

THERE WAS CHILLERS THAT WERE 20 YEARS OLD.

AND WE SAID AT 25, WE SET A STANDARD AT 25 ON THE LAST BOND PROGRAM.

THOSE ARE OUR PRIORITY ONES.

SO WE DO IDENTIFY ITEMS, MR. GLICK, THAT THAT WE HAD SOME TYPE OF CATEGORIZATION OF EQUIPMENT, JUST DIFFERENT ITEMS, LINE ITEMS THAT WE DID HAVE A METHODOLOGY MR. GONZALEZ HOW MANY PRIORITY TWOS BECAME PRIORITY ONES IN THIS SECTION SINCE WE DID THE INITIAL STUDY? I WILL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU WITH THAT INFORMATION, SIR, IF ANY.

YOU MIGHT HAVE SAID THEY STAYED THE SAME, THAT'S FINE.

BUT WE JUST NEED TO KNOW HOW MANY MOVED UP, IF ANY.

THEY DIDN'T THAT THAT ALLOWS US TO LOOK AT IT BECAUSE THE PRICE WENT UP.

WE ALL KNOW THAT.

I MEAN, SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE WE FIRST DID THE STUDY.

WELL, I CAN TELL YOU JUST FROM A VERY, VERY HIGH LEVEL, SIR, I WOULD TELL YOU THAT A LOT OF THE HVAC ITEMS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS PRIORITIES, TWOS AND THREES FOR HIGH DOLLAR LIKE EQUIPMENT WENT TO PRIORITY ONES.

BUT THAT'S JUST A LITTLE PIECE.

THERE'S OTHER ITEMS THAT MAY HAVE GONE TO PRIORITY ONES, BUT I CAN GET YOU THAT INFORMATION, SIR.

I THINK, DR. RINGO, GO AHEAD AND PUT ON THE BOARD.

THE COMMITTEE NEEDS TO DETERMINE THE PRIORITY TWOS THAT NEED TO BE INCLUDED.

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MS. GRIFFIN. YES.

TELL ME THE TRAINING THAT THIS TEAM IS GOING TO.

THIS COMMITTEE IS GOING TO RECEIVE.

SO AND I KNOW YOU ALL HAVEN'T FIRMED UP, BUT YOU ALL DO HAVE A VISION BECAUSE OF THE WAY YOU'RE TALKING.

YOU'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT.

SO IS SOMEONE GOING TO GO OVER ALL THE PRIORITY ONES AND PRIORITY TWOS AND THE SUMMARY OF THIS BOOK TO THE COMMITTEE BEFORE THEY START? OR HOW DOES THAT GET TO THEM? YES, THE COMMITTEE WILL BE PROVIDED WITH INFORMATION SO FAR AS WHAT THE PRIORITY ONES AND THE PRIORITY WHO'S GOING TO DO THAT? SO IT WILL BE SOMEONE FROM OUR STAFF THAT WILL GO OVER THE SUMMARY SHEETS OR THE WHOLE BOOK OR WHATEVER.

YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM.

AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, EVERYBODY FROM OUR DISTRICT FINANCIAL ADVISER, GEORGE WILLIFORD, WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES TO DISCUSS CAPACITY, HOW THIS WORKS TO OUR PROJECT TEAM WITH PAUL GONZALEZ.

JAVIER FERNANDEZ, WE'LL GO THROUGH THESE ITEMS WITH THAT COMMITTEE.

YES, MA'AM. OF WHAT IS BEFORE THEM? YES, MA'AM. SO MUCH.

GOOD QUESTION. THANK YOU.

AS I RECALL DURING THE DISCUSSION, AND I DON'T SEE IT UP THERE ON THE MAJOR PROJECTS LIST.

AND THIS IS I'M NOT SAYING WE PUT THIS ON THE THIRD ON OUR LIST, BUT I DO RECALL SOME DISCUSSION OF BEING ARTS CENTER AND I DON'T SEE THAT ON THERE.

DOES ANY OTHER TRUSTEE RECALL THAT? YEAH. YEAH.

BUT THAT'S PART OF THAT'S JUST IT'S PART OF THE PRIORITIES UNDER THE PBK STUDY.

I BELIEVE I LISTED THAT UNDER FINE ARTS, AND PERHAPS THAT WAS JUST MY NOTES THAT I TOOK AT THE TIME.

BUT YOU'LL SEE ON THE SECOND SLIDE, ON THE LOWER RIGHT, IT SAYS FINE ARTS.

AND THEN ALSO ON THE FIRST SLIDE, WE HAVE FINE ARTS LISTED IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER.

AND SO THAT WAS LISTED A COUPLE OF TIMES[INAUDIBLE] PERFORMING ARTS OR FINE ARTS CENTER I DID NOT.

I THINK IT WOULD HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED A MAJOR PROJECT FROM THAT REGARD.

AS OPPOSED TO JUST GENERAL MONEY FOR FINE ARTS AND UPDATING.

I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT. YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS REGARDING WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE CHARGED FOR THE COMMITTEE.

MR. GLICK. COULD YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? YES, SIR. I'M A LITTLE UNCLEAR TO DR.

LOPEZ'S COMMENTS.

EXPLAIN TO ME THIS COLUMN ON THE FAR ON THE RIGHT.

WHAT DOES THAT REPRESENT? THAT WERE MY NOTES FROM THAT SATURDAY THAT WE MET.

RIGHT. AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I BELIEVE IT WAS YOU WHO LISTED THE $561 MILLION IN THE PBK STUDY THAT INCLUDED ALL THE PRIORITY ONES.

AND SO SIMPLY WHAT I DID WAS TAKE MY NOTES AS YOU WERE SPEAKING AND LIST THOSE BULLETS TO REFRESH OUR MEMORIES AS TO WHAT WE FELT LIKE WERE IMPORTANT AT THAT TIME.

AND I RECOGNIZED ALL OF THOSE.

SO THOSE ARE ALL ADDITIONS, NOT INCLUDED AS FAR AS I'M AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, IN THE $561.

CORRECT. IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? I WAS SIMPLY WRITING, AS YOU WERE REPORTING, WHETHER IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE $561 OR NOT.

I WAS NOT EDITING OR FILTERING THAT OUT AT THAT TIME.

I WAS SIMPLY LISTING THOSE ITEMS. SO YOU CAN SEE ELIMINATE OPEN CONCEPT, EXPAND GRTC, TURF FOR BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL.

DR. LOPEZ JUST SPOKE ABOUT TURF BEING INCLUDED.

AND SO I DID NOT FILTER THOSE OUT.

I WANTED TO LIST THEM JUST AS THE TEAM SPOKE ABOUT THEM.

AND THAT'S WHERE MY CONFUSION IS.

YES, SIR. LIKE EXPAND GRCT, GRCT YES, SIR.

THOSE DOLLARS ARE NOT OBVIOUSLY NOT INCLUDED IN THE [INAUDIBLE].

WE KNOW THAT. YES, SIR.

I DON'T BELIEVE FROM I REMEMBER THE TURF, BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL.

I DON'T THINK THOSE WERE INCLUDED.

THEY ARE. THEY ARE FINE ARTS WE KNOW, IS NOT.

FINE ARTS IS IN THE DANCE STUDIOS.

SO THAT'S WHERE THE CONFUSION IS COMING FROM, FROM YOUR STATEMENT.

YES. AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO CLARIFY VERY QUICKLY, BECAUSE WHEN YOU MAKE THAT STATEMENT, I'M SAYING, WAIT A SECOND, SOME IS AND SOME ISN'T.

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THAT'S CORRECT. SO I THINK WE NEED TO CLARIFY THIS.

I THINK THE WHOLE I THINK THE OPEN CONCEPT AT THE FIVE CAMPUSES IS THAT INCLUDED IN THE $561, THAT'S THE FIVE CAMPUSES.

WE'VE IDENTIFIED THOSE FOR YEARS AND YEARS THAT ARE VERY UNSAFE, WHETHER THAT SAME DESIGN CARRYING THROUGH THE FIVE CAMPUSES.

SO IN MY RESEARCH HERE JUST RECENTLY I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THESE OPEN CONCEPT FACILITIES.

THERE IS ACTUALLY SEVEN THAT ARE OPEN CONCEPT AND THEN THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL EIGHT THAT HAVE A CERTAIN PART OF THE BUILDING THAT HAVE OPEN CONCEPT THAT MAYBE YEARS AGO MAINTENANCE OR FACILITIES WENT AND THEY CLOSED UP SOME WALLS.

BUT THERE'S STILL SOME AREAS IN SOME EIGHT ADDITIONAL CAMPUSES THAT HAVE OPEN CONCEPTS.

SO THERE ARE THERE ARE THEY ARE IDENTIFIED IN THOSE PRIORITIES, ONES AND TWOS.

FIVE, TWO AND EIGHT.

SO POTENTIALLY 15.

YES. ALL THOSE DOLLARS.

WELL, WE KNOW THE OTHER TWO IN THE EIGHT ARE NOT RIGHT ON THE FIVE IN THERE.

IT'S HARD FOR ME TO TELL BY THE COSTS IN THERE.

IT LOOKS LIKE THEY SOME OF THEM ARE.

FOR THE MAJORITY THEY ARE, I WOULD SAY.

WELL, THERE'S MORE THAN FIVE.

THERE'S THERE'S SEVEN.

THERE'S YEAH.

THERE'S SEVEN THAT ARE WHAT WE CALL THE OPEN CONCEPT, THE ROWLETT.

OKAY, ROWLETT ELEMENTARY.

THAT'S A THAT'S A THAT'S ONE THAT'S OPEN CONCEPT THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY.

THERE'S SEVEN OF THOSE AND THEN THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL EIGHT THAT HAVE WINGS THAT WERE THAT ARE STILL OPEN CONCEPTS THAT WERE NEVER CLOSED OFF.

AND SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO ASCERTAIN IS WHAT OF THOSE SEVEN PLUS EIGHT, WHAT OF THOSE DOLLARS TO FIX THAT PROBLEM THAT WE'VE KNOWN AS EXISTED? YES. HOW MANY OF THOSE DOLLARS IN THE $561.

I'LL HAVE TO PULL OUT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE [INAUDIBLE].

I DON'T THINK ANY OF IT IS ABOUT REDESIGNING THOSE CAMPUSES.

IT'S ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE FACILITIES THEY'RE IN AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO UPDATE THEM AS THEY ARE.

I DON'T BELIEVE AND RICK, MAYBE YOU CAN SHED LIGHT ON THAT, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY CAMPUS REDESIGN THAT'S IN ANY PRIORITY ONE OR TWO OR THREE IN THIS BOOK. COULD I JUST.

THERE WAS WE ACTUALLY IF I COULD SIR WE ACTUALLY HAD A DESIGN PRESENTED TO US BY PBK, WHAT WAS CALLED THE ROWLETT ELEMENTARY.

I'M AWARE OF THAT. I'M AWARE OF THAT.

SO I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT THAT'S AN OPTION IN THIS BOOK.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY INCLUDED I THINK IN THE [INAUDIBLE] THIS CHART RIGHT HERE.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT WE'RE SAYING, EVERYTHING IN THE LEFT COLUMN THERE IS PRIORITY ONE.

IS THAT CORRECT? NO. OKAY.

LET'S STOP. LET'S PRESS PAUSE.

EVERYTHING UNDER $561 MILLION IN PBK AND ALL THAT LISTED, THERE BELOW IT I THOUGHT ALL THIS WAS IN PRIORITY ONE.

AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE.

AND THEN THEN WE'RE SAYING, WELL, THE EXPANSION OF THE GRCT IS NOT THEN THE TURF FIELD AND SOFTBALL IS.

AND THE [INAUDIBLE] YOU KNOW, ISN'T THE FINE ARTS ISN'T.

I DON'T KNOW.

SO I'M I'M VERY CONFUSED WITH THIS CHART.

I'M SORRY. AND I WOULD LIKE CLARITY.

THIS ISN'T A CHART.

ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S GO BACK TO THE FIRST SLIDE.

LET'S GO BACK TO THE FIRST SLIDE.

WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE DONE IS PUT YOUR NAMES THERE.

SO WHEN WE ASKED YOU LAST TIME WE MET, WHAT DO YOU SEE AS A PRIORITY? THIS IS YOUR ANSWERS TO THAT QUESTION.

THESE ARE YOUR ANSWERS TO THAT QUESTION.

THIS IS NOT A CHART ABOUT WHAT WE FEEL SHOULD BE A PRIORITY.

THIS IS NOT LISTING WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

THESE ARE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PRIORITIES.

AND WHAT GREG WAS ASKING YOU TO DO IS LOOK AT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND SEE WHICH ONES WE WANT TO CONTINUE WITH, SEE IF THERE'S TRENDS.

RIGHT. A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID SAFETY AND SECURITY, A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND THEN THAT WAY WE COULD CREATE A NEW MASTER LIST BECAUSE THAT NEW MASTER LIST IS GOING TO BE THE CHARGE FOR THE COMMITTEE.

SO NONE OF THESE ARE LIKE SCIENTIFICALLY DONE CHARTS.

THESE ARE JUST YOUR ANSWERS FROM LAST TIME.

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YOU MIGHT YOU MIGHT ASK THEM TO EVALUATE ALL PRIORITY ONES AND DETERMINE WHICH ONE WOULD IT BE.

IF WE'RE LOOKING AT AND YOU'RE BRINGING UP GOOD QUESTIONS, BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND I'M GOING TO USE THE ROWLETT, THE INFAMOUS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ROWLETT, SO LET'S JUST SAY, FIGURATIVELY SPEAKING, IN A PERFECT WORLD, THE BOARD SAYS WE CANNOT HAVE THAT OPEN DESIGN CONCEPT.

THAT IT'S IT'S NOT EVEN WORTH FIXING.

LET'S BUILD A NEW SCHOOL.

RIGHT. THAT'S SAFER AND FOLLOWS MORE 21ST CENTURY LEARNING MODELS.

THEN EVERYTHING THAT GOES IN THOSE PRIORITY ONES.

IF YOU DECIDE PRIORITY ONE OR PRIORITY TWO IS WIPED AWAY AND IT WOULD BE IT WOULD IT WOULD LOWER THAT WHOLE $561 AMOUNT.

BUT YOU WOULD BE TRANSFERRING IT TO BUILD A NEW SCHOOL.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? OKAY. SO NONE OF THIS IS LIKE SO YOU SEE HOW YOU SEE HVAC ONE THROUGH THREE A PERSON SAID AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL THE HVAC SYSTEMS FROM PRIORITIES ONE TO THREE.

ANOTHER PERSON SAID, WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL ROOFS FROM ONE TO THREE.

THOSE ARE VERY IMPORTANT.

BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, THAT'S NOT GOING TO SELL BONDS.

RIGHT. SO YOU'VE GOT TO DO OTHER THINGS, TOO.

SOMEBODY MIGHT SAY, WE'VE GOT TO KEEP EVERYTHING FROM PRIORITY ONE.

AND THEN ALL THE PRIORITY TWOS.

THREES ARE ARE ADDED.

BUT ANYTHING THAT YOU GUYS CREATE OR BUILD WILL SUBTRACT FROM THAT $560 IF IT'S INCLUDED FOR THOSE THINGS.

[INAUDIBLE] DR.

LOPEZ ON, ON ALL THIS DISCUSSION, THE BIG BOOK, WHICH I FORGOT ON, IS ON ITS WAY.

THOSE WERE PRIORITY ONES SET UPON THAT WERE LAID OUT BY PBK AND STAFF.

THIS LIST, WHILE WE'RE CALLING IT PRIORITIES AGAIN, I THINK WE'RE GETTING THE BOARD'S PRIORITIES MIXED WITH THE BOOKS PRIORITIES.

SO WE NEED TO LABEL THEM SOMETHING DIFFERENT BECAUSE THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WHEN YOU GOT PRIORITIES, PRIORITIES FOR COMMITTEE AND LIST FINE ARTS ONE, TWO, AND THREE, THEN THAT INCORPORATES THE BOOKS PRIORITIES ONE, TWO AND THREE.

YES. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS AND I THINK THE SHIFT WE NEED TO MAKE IS WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS OUR WORK PRODUCT.

I WASN'T HERE FOR THE MEETING.

I'M SORRY, THIS IS THE WORK PRODUCT FROM THAT FIRST MEETING THAT THE BOARD WAS DECIDED WAS PRIORITY.

AND WITHIN THIS LIST COULD BE SOME ONES, TWOS AND THREES.

IF SOMEBODY PUT IT ON THE LIST, THEN IT COULD BE ONE TWOS AND THREE.

SO I THINK WE GOT TO QUIT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS A BOOK PRIORITY ONE, TWO AND THREE, AND JUST FOCUS SOLELY ON WHAT IS A BOARD PRIORITY.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE AT ALL? IT DOES TOTAL SENSE, ACTUALLY.

BUT BUT THEY GO HAND IN HAND BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S GOING TO SAY, MY CAFETERIA IS PRIORITIES ONE, TWO AND THREE.

AND THEY COME FROM THE BOOK.

BUT WE ALREADY HAVE THAT LISTED DOWN PRIORITY ONE.

AND THEN DETERMINE THE PRIORITY TWO IS TO BE INCLUDED.

I AGREE WITH JAMIE.

I THINK WE NEED TO GO THROUGH NOW AND FIGURE OUT THE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. IF THERE'S OVERLAP, THE COMMITTEE WILL FIND THAT OUT.

THEY'LL SEE IT AND THEY'LL MOVE ON IT.

[INAUDIBLE] I JUST DON'T THINK WE OUGHT TO SIT HERE AND AND TRY TO RECONCILE THIS BACK TO THE BOOK.

THIS IS US SAYING, OKAY, THE BOOK GAVE US A LOT OF GOOD DATA.

NOW, WHAT DO WE WANT TO PRIORITIZE? I DON'T CARE IF IT'S ONE, TWO OR THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE OR NOT EVEN ON THE LIST YET.

IF THE BOARD PUTS IT ON HERE AS SOMETHING FOR THE COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT, THEN HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE THAT WILL BE SET.

I THINK THERE'S MY BOOK.

CAN I MAKE ONE STATEMENT ABOUT THE PRIORITY ONE TWOS AND THREES? [INAUDIBLE] THE WAY THAT WE CLASSIFY THE PRIORITY ONES, TWOS AND THREES, THERE'S THERE'S REALLY TWO BUCKETS.

THERE'S ONE FOR THE FACILITY SIDE, THE CURRICULUM SIDE, THE MUST DO'S, THE ADDITIONS FOR CAPACITY.

THERE'S ALSO THE LIFE CYCLE SIDE.

SO IN A PRIORITY ONE, THERE'S A LIFE CYCLE OF 1 TO 2 YEARS FOR AN HVAC OR A ROOF.

WE HAVE THE RECORDS.

WHEN WAS THE ROOF PUT ON? WE KNOW IT IS AT THE END OF ITS LIFE CYCLE.

IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED WITHIN 1 TO 2 YEARS.

IF IT'S A PRIORITY THREE OR EVEN A FOUR, WE HAVE SOME FOURS IDENTIFIED IN OUR DATABASE.

IF IT'S A PRIORITY THREE OR FOUR, THOSE ARE OUT FIVE YEARS BEFORE THEY WOULD EVER NEED TO BE REPLACED IF IT'S ON AN [INAUDIBLE] SIDE.

SO TO BE ABLE TO SAY WE WANT TO MOVE THE HVAC THREES TO A ONE, WELL, SOME OF THOSE ARE IN PERFECTLY FINE SHAPE AND THEY'RE NOT REACHING THE END OF THEIR LIFE CYCLE UNTIL FIVE OR SIX YEARS FROM NOW.

RIGHT. WHICH IS A REASON FOR PUTTING THE THEM ON THE OTHER SIDE, THERE'S A MUST DO SHOULD DO CATEGORY THAT GOES WITH A PRIORITY ONE, WHETHER THAT'S A CODE ITEM OR IT'S A

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AND THEN WITHIN A PRIORITY TWO, YOU MIGHT HAVE A WOULD LIKE TO DO OR SHOULD DO BECAUSE IT'S PARITY ACROSS THE DISTRICT NOT RELATED TO A LIFE CYCLE COMPONENT OR A DEFINITION.

WELL, IF I WERE TO PUT SOMETHING ON THERE AGAIN, FORGETTING THE BOOK, THIS IS JUST FOR ME, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, I THINK DR.

LOPEZ SAID SOMETHING I'VE BEEN INTERESTED IN SINCE I GOT ON THE BOARD, AND THAT'S UPGRADING OUR LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS TO THE 21ST CENTURY.

WE'VE GOT TOO MANY FACILITIES THAT ARE NOT ADEQUATE.

KIDS DON'T EVEN WANT TO GO THERE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ADEQUATE ANYMORE.

THERE ARE TWO OTHER TWO OUTDATED.

THEY MAY BE OPEN OR WHATEVER.

SO PRIORITY ITEM OF MINE WOULD BE TO ACHIEVE THAT 21ST CENTURY LEARNING ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR KIDS.

NOW, WHEN THE COMMITTEE ATTACKS THAT PRIORITY, THEY MAY HAVE TO GO TO ONES, TWOS AND THREES, BUT THEY FIGURE THAT OUT FROM THE BOOK, RIGHT FROM THE LIST OF PROJECTS. SO TO ME, I'M SITTING HERE GOING, ONE OF MY THINGS IS, MAN, WE WANT TO MAKE GISD SOME PLACE KIDS WANT TO BE.

AND WE CAN'T DO THAT WITH A 96 YEAR OLD SCHOOL THAT, YOU KNOW, THE WATER FOUNTAIN DOESN'T EVEN WORK.

NOT THAT WE USE WATER FOUNTAINS, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IT'S JUST I'M VERY INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO TO BRING THAT LEARNING EXPERIENCE UP TO THE 21ST CENTURY.

[INAUDIBLE] YES, JAMIE, JUST TO RECAP WHAT HAPPENED.

WE DID NOT REFER TO THE BOOKS AT ALL AT THAT MEETING AT ALL.

ALL WE DID WAS COME UP WITH WHAT I CALLED A WISH LIST.

I DIDN'T EVEN CALL IT A PRIORITY LIST.

SO WE WERE TOLD ON THE SPOT ARE ASKED ON THE SPOT TO LIST THE THINGS OF OF IMPORTANCE ON ON YOUR LIST.

SO THE CONFUSION THAT HELPS AND THE CONFUSION THAT WE'RE HAVING IS BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN NO DIRECTION OR INSTRUCTIONS OR MAYBE I'VE JUST MISSED IT OF HOW WE ARE TO UTILIZE ALL THE DATA THAT WE HAVE HAD.

SO IF WE'RE NOT TO UTILIZE ALL OF THIS DATA AND THAT WE MOVE THIS DATA TO THE COMMITTEE, THEN THAT'S ALL WE NEED TO SAY. BUT OUR THIS LIST THAT WE DEVELOPED DIDN'T COME FROM REFERRING TO ANY OF THIS DOCUMENTATION.

[INAUDIBLE] I GET IT.

I MEAN, THAT THAT HELPED ME TOO.

SEE WHAT I'M SAYING. SO WITH RESPECT TO THAT WITH RESPECT TO THAT, I THINK A THING AND I HOPE THAT OUR PROCESS HERE IS I MEAN, WE KEEP HEARING WE WANT TO DO OUR GOALS AND OUR PRIORITIES AND WE WANT TO BE INVOLVED AND LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT OUR WHAT OUR INPUT IS ON THIS WHOLE PROCESS.

AND I THINK THIS IS THE TIME WE HAVE TO GIVE.

I THINK WE'RE TAKING 30,000 FOOT GUIDANCE TO THE COMMITTEE THAT NEEDS TO DIG INTO THE ANSWERS TO THE PRIORITY OF 21ST CENTURY LEARNING BETTER FINE ARTS.

YOU KNOW, THE BIG THE BIG ITEMS THAT ARE UP HERE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO HAVE TOTAL NEW CONTROLLERS ON ALL OUR HVAC SO THAT WE'RE BEING AS EFFICIENT AS WE CAN IN UTILITIES, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

IF WE SAID THOSE ARE PRIORITY, THEN I THINK THE COMMITTEE CAN THEN GO TO THE BOOK AND FIND ALL THE TOOLS THAT ACCOMPLISH THAT AND BRING THEM FORTH.

SO THAT'S THAT'S HOW I SEE THE PROCESS.

AND IF IT'S WRONG, FINE.

BUT I KIND OF LIKE EVERYTHING I'VE READ TODAY BECAUSE I'M READING IT FOR THE FIRST TIME, BUT I LIKE MOST OF WHAT YOU HAVE UP THERE.

I WAS WONDERING IF I COULD ASK A QUESTION OF SOMEBODY AS I GO DOWN THE PRIORITIES, YOU KNOW SOME OF THESE ONE WORD ANSWERS LIKE MULTIPURPOSE. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT IS.

WHAT IS MULTIPURPOSE? DO WE REMEMBER WHAT THAT IS? ARE YOU REFERRING TO THAT, TO THE BOOK OR MEETING? NO, IT'S UP THERE. THIS MAJOR PROJECT, MULTIPURPOSE.

THAT WAS A BOARD MEMBER COMMENT FROM ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS.

I DON'T RECALL WHICH ONE, BUT I ASSUME THAT WOULD BE A MULTI-USE FACILITY FOR FINE ARTS, ATHLETICS, INDOOR PRACTICE WHEN THE WEATHER IS BAD.

IT'S MY ASSUMPTION THAT WAS THESE COMMENTS WE SEE UP HERE ARE FROM THE AUGUST 20TH MEETING WITH BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS MADE.

I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS AN INDOOR PRACTICE FACILITY YOU COULD USE FOR OTHER THINGS.

YES. AND THEN IF I'M GOING TO BE PUTTING PINK DOTS UP SOMEWHERE, WHAT IS RIGHT SIZED FACILITY USE 40% CAPACITY IN SOME CASES.

WHAT IS THAT? WHAT IS THAT PROCESS? WAS THE THOUGHT BEHIND THAT? THAT WAS WE HAVE ELEMENTARIES THAT ARE AT 40, 46% CAPACITY.

AND I BELIEVE THAT COMMENT BEHIND THAT IS WE HAVE ELEMENTARIES THAT ARE LESS THAN 50% FULL.

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SO IT COULD BE SHIFTING, IT COULD BE CLOSING, IT COULD BE MOVING, IT COULD BE TAKING TWO DOWN AND BUILDING ONE.

IT COULD BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

THE COMMITTEE CAN COME UP WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION, RIGHT? YES, SIR. BUT THE CONCEPT IS TO HELP ELIMINATE THE SMALL USAGE SMALL USAGE OF CAPACITY WITHIN A BUILDING. SEE, I CAN GET BEHIND THAT.

SO I THINK CONVERSION, INEFFICIENT USE, INEFFICIENT USE OF BUILDINGS AND STAFF.

YEAH. OKAY.

SO, SO I JUST, I THINK I GET IT AND THEN I'LL BE QUIET IF THAT IS, IF THAT IS THE DIRECTION AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT NECESSARILY IS THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE COMMENTS, WE OUGHT TO PUT THEM IN HIGH LEVEL CATEGORIES.

WE CAN'T HAVE SOME IN HIGH LEVEL CATEGORIES AND OTHERS IN SPECIFIC.

AND THAT IS WHAT THE CONFUSION IS.

AGAIN, I SAY WE WAS ASKED TO TELL HER TO SPEAK OFF THE CUFF, NOT KNOWING IF WE HAD LOOKED AT THIS AND WE HAD ASSESSED SOME THINGS, WHAT DID WE THINK? OKAY, NOW WE PASSED THAT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO GET DOWN TO SPECIFICS.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT PRIORITY AREAS, OUR PROJECT AREAS, WHATEVER TERMINOLOGY WE WANT TO USE, THEN WE EITHER GOT TO STAY UP HERE OR WE GOT TO BE DOWN HERE.

AND THE LIST AS.

IT LOOKS TODAY HAS BOTH OF THOSE CATEGORIES.

GREG? YES.

I NEVER FORGOT ABOUT YOU.

YOU'RE STILL HERE. I THINK WHAT COULD POSSIBLY BE HELPFUL FOR THE BOARD IS DO YOU HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT A CHARGE LOOKS LIKE? SO FAR AS THE CHARGE.

YES, SIR. WE HAVE I HAVE THREE DIFFERENT EXAMPLES OF A CHARGE FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER. FOR INSTANCE, AND I'M NO, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS TO CONSIDER WHAT ANOTHER DISTRICT HAS DONE.

I MEAN, I THINK IT'S EASIER FOR US TO BUILD TOWARDS SOMETHING IF WE KNOW WHAT IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN KIND OF ITS FINAL FORM.

TWO COMPONENTS HERE. ONE IS WHAT ARE THE AREAS OF AND SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION AROUND THE WORD PRIORITIES.

WHAT ARE THE AREAS OF IMPORTANCE, PERHAPS, THAT THE BOARD WANTS THE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER? SECONDLY, WHAT IS IT THAT THE BOARD EXPECTS THE COMMITTEE TO DO? EACH ONE OF THESE I REMOVE THE NAME OF THE DISTRICT FROM WHICH THEY CAME FROM, BUT EACH ONE OF THESE ARE REPRESENTS TRUE LIFE EXAMPLES THAT HAVE BEEN USED AS CHARGES BY OTHER DISTRICTS.

THE FIRST ONE IS THE MOST DETAILED WITH THE BULLET POINTS.

THE LAST ONE OBVIOUSLY IS A LITTLE MORE GENERAL, BUT THAT WAS ALSO USED BY A RATHER LARGE SCHOOL DISTRICT HERE IN TEXAS, AND THAT WAS THEIR CHARGE TO THEIR COMMITTEE.

MR. SELDERS. THIS IS A REALLY SIMPLE QUESTION FOR ME.

IF YOU GO BACK TO YOUR THE PRIORITIES OR THE WISH LIST, AS MS. GRIFFIN DESCRIBED. YES, SIR.

THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THERE.

SO WHEN WE TRY TO NARROW DOWN AND COME UP WITH THE CATEGORIES THAT HAS BEEN KIND OF THROWN OUT THERE, HOW CAN WE DISTILL WHAT YOU HAVE THERE INTO SOME MAJOR CATEGORIES THAT WE CAN THEN LOOK AT THE SUBPARTS TO DETERMINE FROM WHERE WE CAN SORT OF PLACE THESE THINGS AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THESE CATEGORIES ARE.

LIKE I'VE HEARD FACILITIES, RIGHT? BUT THEN FACILITIES, YOU HAVE A SAFETY AND SECURITY ISSUE, RIGHT? YOU HAVE RIGHT SIZED FACILITY USAGE.

YOU HAVE LIKE SO HOW DO YOU KNOW WHICH OF THOSE PROJECTS OR POTENTIAL PROJECTS WILL APPLY TO FACILITIES? I'M JUST TRYING TO GET SOME CLARITY THERE.

AND IF YOU CAN HELP WITH THAT, THAT WOULD BE.

WELL, AGAIN, SO FAR AS THE PRIORITY, PRIORITY IS ONE, TWO AND THREE FROM THE PBK STUDY, WE KNOW THAT SAFETY AND SECURITY IS IS THERE SAFETY AND SECURITY MAY STILL BE A VERY IMPORTANT ITEM OR AREA THAT THE BOARD WISHES THE COMMITTEE TO PAY PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO.

I GET THAT TOO. AND THIS JUST HELPS WITH THE COMMUNICATION SO THAT WHEN WE PULL A COMMITTEE TOGETHER, THEY HAVE SOME DIRECTION.

AND SO IF THAT DIRECTION IS TO MAKE MORE EFFICIENT USE OF EXISTING FACILITIES, IN THIS CASE IT WAS CALLED RIGHT SIZED FACILITY USE OR APPROPRIATE LEARNING ENVIRONMENT.

YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER, WHICH WAS ALSO THE, AS WE WROTE, ACHIEVE 21ST CENTURY LEARNING ENVIRONMENT.

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SO FAR AS APPROPRIATE AND 21ST CENTURY LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS IS A CATEGORY THAT I THINK WE CAN APPROACH WITH THE COMMITTEE AND THEY CAN TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT SOME OF THE SPECIFICS ARE THERE.

YEAH, BUT EVEN WITH THAT, THOUGH, HOW WOULD THEY THEN TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND THEN UTILIZE THE PBK STUDY TO DETERMINE WHICH PROJECTS THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH? THAT'S WHAT I'M NOT CLEAR ON.

WHENEVER WE PROVIDE INFORMATION IN ORIENTATION FOR THE COMMITTEE TO SAY, OKAY, IF THE BOARD FELT ASSUMING THE BOARD CHOOSES 21ST CENTURY LEARNING ENVIRONMENT, IN OUR ORIENTATION WITH THE COMMITTEE, PROBABLY ON THAT FIRST NIGHT WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS WHAT SOME OF THE COMPONENTS OF A 21ST CENTURY LEARNING ENVIRONMENT LOOK LIKE AND SOME COMPONENTS THAT WELL, THEY WOULD BE COMPONENTS FROM FROM THE STUDY, FROM EXPERIENCE THAT PBK AND OTHERS HAVE HAD WITH WHAT THOSE 21ST CENTURY LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS LOOK LIKE. IT WOULDN'T BE FOR THE 100 COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO GO AND DO THEIR OWN RESEARCH ON WHAT 21ST CENTURY LEARNING LOOKS LIKE.

[INAUDIBLE] YES, MA'AM.

[INAUDIBLE] SO WHAT WE PUT UP ON THE BOARD. ACHIEVE 21ST CENTURY LEARNING ENVIRONMENT.

YES. NOW, IF WE TAKE A FEW MOMENTS TO CROSS OFF WHAT APPLIES TO THAT FROM THIS LIST, THEN MAYBE IT'LL SETTLE A FEW MINDS.

THEN WE CAN GO TO OUR NEXT PRIORITY AND CROSS THOSE OFF FROM THIS LIST THAT WOULD BE UNDER THAT PARTICULAR PRIORITY.

SO FOR ME, IF I PUT UP THEIR SECURITY RIGHT, THEN I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THIS LIST AND I'M GOING TO CROSS OFF SAFETY AND SECURITY I'M GOING TO CROSS OFF FENCING. I'M GOING TO CROSS OFF.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOES. AND THEN THEN WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PRIORITY AND THEN WE CROSS THOSE OFF FROM THIS LIST.

BECAUSE I THINK I THINK EVERYONE'S REALLY HUNG UP ON THE LIST.

BUT THE PRIORITIES ARE VERY BROAD.

AND THEN WE JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, I THINK AMONGST OURSELVES THAT WHEN I SAY THIS, I NEED YOU AND STAFF TO KNOW THAT FROM THIS LIST.

THIS IS WHAT BOOK ASIDE IF IF THE COMMITTEE IS NOT USING THIS BOOK WITH THIS AND WE HAVE BIGGER ISSUES, SO THEN THEN WE CAN CROSS THEM OFF AND WE SEE WHAT'S LEFT OVER AND THEN WE SEE, OKAY, WHAT CATEGORY DO WE PUT THOSE LEFT OVER IN? AND I THINK MINDS MIGHT QUIET IF WE START ON THAT AVENUE.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOES.

YES. OH, THANK YOU, SIR.

I THINK IF EVERYBODY HAS THE BOOKS NOW, IF YOU'LL TURN TO EITHER PAGE, 7308, OR 7460.

I THINK WE CAN GET RID OF ONE OF THE ITEMS. BOTH HICKMAN AND ROWLETT WERE ON THE ROWLETT MODEL AND WE HAVE THE DOLLARS ALREADY IN THERE.

7308 YOU SEE, UNDER ARCHITECTURE THERE'S A COST FOR HICKMAN OF $3,000,001 AND FOR ROWLETT ELEMENTARY $2.7, AND THEY CALL IT A MAJOR RENOVATION.

SO THOSE DOLLARS ARE ALREADY PRIORITY ONE DOLLARS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE $570 THOSE DOLLARS ARE THERE.

WHAT I DON'T I'M STILL UNCLEAR ABOUT PAUL IS WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT WE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT FIVE OF THOSE CAMPUSES.

THERE ARE TWO MORE AND NOW YOU'VE SAID EIGHT MORE.

I DON'T THINK THOSE DOLLARS ARE IN HERE.

I CAN'T FIND THEM.

SO SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT.

I THINK SO MAYBE WE COULD ELIMINATE PART OF OF OF THAT CONCEPT FOR THOSE THOSE FIVE CAMPUSES.

[INAUDIBLE].

YEAH. AS WE GO THROUGH DO YOU WANT US TO.

ARE YOU GOING TO PUT DOWN. WE HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE WANT OTHER THAN WHAT DR.

RINGO HAS ALREADY WRITTEN DOWN.

SO PICK SOME OTHERS AND THEN SAY WE WANT THOSE.

AND THEN WE PUT DOTS IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT US TO DO AT THIS POINT, WE WILL EVENTUALLY PUT DOTS UP THERE AS TO WHICH ONES THE BOARD MOST PREFERS.

YES, SIR. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR. MR. GLICK, YOU PUT UP A GREAT POINT ABOUT THE TWO SCHOOLS.

SO IN REALITY, IF WE LOOK OVER THE COURSE OF THE ENTIRE SCHOOL, THE TOTAL COST FOR THESE SCHOOLS OVER THE NEXT 6 TO 10 YEARS WOULD

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SO IT MAKES SENSE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THAT THEN THOSE THOSE ARE BUDGET SAVES THAT COULD BE TRANSFERRED SOMEWHERE ELSE AND WOULD LOWER THE $561 AND CREATE A SAFER CAMPUS.

I GUESS THE QUESTION AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S FOR THE COMMITTEE [INAUDIBLE] IS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE CURRENT COST IS OF A NEW CAMPUS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. AGAIN AND THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED ALREADY A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND ESTABLISH THIS AS KIND OF LIKE A GROUND RULE OR A GUARDRAIL FOR THIS. WE ALREADY HAVE PRIORITY ONE ON THE SHEET.

WE DON'T NEED TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

WE CAN STILL EMPHASIZE WE WANT TO GET RID OF OPEN CONCEPT ON THE SHEET.

WE DON'T HAVE TO DRILL THAT DOWN ANY FURTHER.

I FEEL LIKE WE'RE JUST RUNNING IN CIRCLES HERE.

SO IF OPEN CONCEPT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T WANT, THEN IT NEEDS TO GO ON THERE AND THAT'S FINE.

WE CAN DO THAT. THIS IS GOING TO BE THE CHARGE IS GOING TO BE BROADER THAN, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO START GETTING INTO INDIVIDUAL CAMPUSES AND THINGS SUCH AS THAT.

THAT'S TOO SPECIFIC FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ASK THE COMMITTEE TO DO.

MR. MILLER AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO TO LUNCH.

YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY REAL QUICK, AS I GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, I'M NOT GOING TO DO ANY MATH AT ALL.

I DON'T WE'RE NOT HERE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE TOTAL COST IS.

ALL WE'RE HERE TO DO IS FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BOARD PRIORITIES ARE.

WE TRANSFER THAT INFORMATION TO THAT COMMITTEE.

THE COMMITTEE WILL THEN HAVE TO DRIVE DOWN AND LOOK AT COST ESTIMATES AND ALL THAT.

AND THEN WE MAY HAVE TO GO BACK AND FORTH A LITTLE BIT TO REFINE SOME PRIORITIES FOR THEM.

BUT AT LEAST WE'RE NOT WE DON'T HAVE TO GET CAUGHT UP IN THE MATH.

I DON'T SEE US. I REALLY DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANYTHING MORE.

ABOUT $561 MILLION.

THAT'S MY WHOLE DAY.

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT AGAIN BECAUSE THAT IS NOT SOMETHING WE'RE TRYING TO DETERMINE.

WE'RE NOT SPENDING THE BOND TODAY.

WE'RE NOT DOING THAT.

WE HAVEN'T EVEN SET A BOND YET.

WE'RE JUST GIVING A CHARGE TO A COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THIS.

WE CAN SAY THAT THE THINGS THAT ARE PRIORITY ONE IN THIS LIST ARE SOMETHING WE REALLY WANT YOU TO LOOK AT HARD.

BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING.

HERE IT IS, 12:00.

WE'RE GOING TO GO OFF THE RECORD SO WE CAN HAVE LUNCH.

OK. IT IS 12:48 AND WE ARE RETURNING FROM A TEMPORARY RECESS.

ALL RIGHT. BEFORE WE LEFT, WE WERE DISCUSSING AREAS THAT WE WERE WE'RE TRYING TO FORM PRIORITY AREAS FOR A POTENTIAL BOND COMMITTEE.

IT STRIKES ME THAT WE HAVE ALREADY FORMULATED WHAT MS. GRIFFIN REFERRED TO AS KIND OF A WISH LIST, AND THAT CAN BE KIND OF THE STARTING POINT WE HAVE.

BUT WE NEED TO START GROUPING THESE AREAS INTO KIND OF CATEGORIES FOR PRIORITIES THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH. FOR INSTANCE, WE'VE ALREADY MENTIONED SAFETY AND SECURITY.

THAT'S STILL NOT ON THE LIST.

IS THAT SOMETHING I THINK WE CAN ALL NECESSARILY AGREE SHOULD BE ON THE LIST.

AND BY DOING THAT, A LOT OF THE STUFF LIKE WE HAVE LIKE PERIMETER CHAIN LINK FENCING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WE DON'T NEED TO ITEMIZE THAT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A BROADER TOPIC FOR THE COMMITTEE TO REVIEW.

ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO TAKE THE DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT, DISCUSS SOME OF THESE BROADER CATEGORIES THAT WE CAN CONSIDER PRIORITY AREAS FOR THE COMMITTEE? I HAVE A THOUGHT. IT'S KIND OF ALONG THE LINES THAT I HAD EARLIER I WAS TALKING ABOUT.

TO ME, A PRIORITY WOULD BE TO UPGRADE A LOT OF OUR FACILITIES TO THE 21ST CENTURY LEARNING ENVIRONMENT.

BUT ALSO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PUT THIS INTO PRIORITY, BUT ONE OF MY THOUGHTS IS GOING BACK TO RIGHT AFTER WE FIRST HIRED DR.

LOPEZ, WE HAD TALKS ABOUT FACILITY ISSUES, AND ONE OF THE COMMENTS WAS, AS WE DO OUR NEXT BOND, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FACILITIES MATCH THE PRIORITIES OF THE DISTRICT GOALS IN TERMS OF OUR ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT OUR ACADEMIC RECOVERY OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE WANT TO BE SUCCESSFUL AT WITH THE KIDS, THEN OUR FACILITIES SHOULD REFLECT THAT.

SO I THINK IT'S AN AIR BALL.

IF YOU'RE, FOR INSTANCE, I'M GOING TO MAKE SOME STUFF UP.

BUT IF YOUR PRIORITY IS TO EVERYBODY TO DO GREAT IN MATH AND THEN YOU GO BUILD A I DON'T KNOW, YOU GO BUILD A BOWLING ALLEY, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MATCH YOUR YOUR GOAL.

SO SOMEWHERE IN HERE, IF WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE'RE ADDRESSING AT SOME POINT, IT'S GOT TO PASS THROUGH A FILTER OF

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I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE PART OF A THAT THAT CLEARLY WOULD BE PART OF THE CHARGE.

BUT IT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF A GENERIC, ALMOST KIND OF VISION STATEMENT, I THINK YOU HAVE AT THE BEGINNING TO MAKE MAKE CERTAIN THAT THE FACILITIES AND FACILITY CHANGES THAT WE'RE MANDATING WITH RESPECT TO THIS BOND MATCHES DISTRICT AND BOARD GOALS, SO MR. GLICK. YEAH, IF WE'RE GOING FROM THE LIST, I WOULD CERTAINLY EXPAND THIS BUILDING.

I REMEMBER BACK IN 2013 WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT A BOND AND THIS TYPE OF FACILITY, I THINK WE COULD ALL AGREE THIS HAS BEEN ACCEPTED AND ENJOYED BY OUR STUDENTS AND OUR COMMUNITIES AND BEEN PRAISED BY EVERYBODY I KNOW WHO'S EVER TAKEN A TOUR HERE. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON THE LIST.

THANK YOU, SIR. I THINK THAT WE NEED A SECTION ON THERE BECAUSE I THINK WE CAN DEAL WITH SOME OF THESE AND YOU CAN GO AND PUT DOWN THE GRCT BECAUSE IT'S A FAIRLY UNIQUE STRUCTURE.

BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO CHARGE THE COMMITTEE WITH EVALUATING EXISTING CAMPUS FACILITIES AND DETERMINING THE POTENTIAL NEED FOR NEW CAMPUS FACILITIES OR SIGNIFICANT RENOVATIONS.

SO THAT GOES OVER TO INCLUDE PRACTICE FACILITIES.

I WOULD JUST OR I WOULD INCLUDE THAT AS JUST THE EDUCATIONAL FACILITY ITSELF.

OKAY. THE STRUCTURE, I THINK THINGS SUCH AS INDOOR PRACTICE FACILITIES AND THINGS SUCH AS THAT.

THE BOARD IS GOING TO HAVE TO ACTUALLY PUT THAT ONE DOWN, I THINK.

BUT I DO THINK THE THE COMMUNITY PROBABLY DETERMINES THAT IF YOU HAVE A SAY, LIKE USE THE EXAMPLE OF A 93 YEAR OLD SCHOOL.

BUT IF YOU HAVE A 93 YEAR OLD SCHOOL THAT'S NO LONGER MEETING THE NEEDS, THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S WORTH RENOVATING THAT SCHOOL OR WHETHER IT BE MORE EFFECTIVE TO BUILD A DIFFERENT SCHOOL.

THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND SO THAT'S MORE OF WHAT I'M GETTING AT WITH RESPECT TO THAT.

MR. SELDERS. TWO QUESTIONS, I GUESS, ALONG THE SAME LINES.

IF WE'RE ASKING A COMMITTEE TO EVALUATE FACILITY FROM A CAPACITY STANDPOINT OR UNDER UTILIZATION STANDPOINT, ARE WE ALSO GOING TO BE ASKING THEM TO CONSIDER CONSOLIDATION, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR? I THINK DR. LOPEZ WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER TO ANSWER THAT.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE DOING.

WOULD THAT BE A PART OF THIS BOND OR IS THAT SOMETHING SEPARATE? SO I LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

IT COULD BE BOTH.

SO WE COULD WE COULD IF WE NEEDED TO CONSOLIDATE SCHOOLS WITHOUT HAVING TO BUILD NEW ONES.

IN THEORY, WE HAVE ROOM IN A NUMBER OF CAMPUSES, BUT THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME CAMPUSES THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO DO THAT YET LOOKING AT THE FACILITY STUDY.

RIGHT. SO THERE MIGHT BE SOME CAMPUSES THAT WE MAY WANT TO REDO.

A PERFECT EXAMPLE.

I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE ROWLETT ELEMENTARY BECAUSE WE USE THAT A LOT, THAT TYPE OF MODEL, OPEN CONCEPT.

IF THEY HAD ROOM, THEORETICALLY, YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO SEND KIDS OVER THERE TO CONSOLIDATE THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S THAT OPEN CONCEPT.

ALL THOSE NUANCES I DON'T THINK THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN WITH THIS BOOK FOR FOUR YEARS LIKE WE HAVE.

THEY HAVEN'T SEEN THE FACILITIES.

THEY ALL LIVE IN DIFFERENT PARTS.

SO WE WOULD PROBABLY DETERMINE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

WOULD THAT BE AFTER THEY DO THEIR WORK? I THINK IT WOULD BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THEIR WORK.

SO WE WOULD BE LIKE IF WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TODAY, WE CAN START TALKING MORE AND MORE ABOUT IT.

RIGHT. BUT THEY MAY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THEORETICALLY.

THEY MAY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON A NEW BUILD ON THE SCHOOL.

RIGHT. THEY MIGHT SAY IF WE HAVE THE THE BANDWIDTH, CAN YOU REBUILD SCHOOL X? LET'S SAY SCHOOL X IS LOCATED BY A PARK.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SCHOOLS LOCATED BY A PARK.

THEN WE COULD PARTNER WITH THE CITY AND SAY, HEY, WE'LL TAKE THE SAME ACREAGE, LET US DESIGN AND BUILD A NEW SCHOOL NEXT DOOR AND THEN WE'LL DEMOLISH AND BUILD YOUR PARK WHERE THE SITE WAS ORIGINALLY AND DO KIND OF A LAND SWAP.

SO THEY MAY COME BACK WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THEY MAY ALSO COME BACK WITH SAYING, HEY, WHILE WE HAVE THESE SCHOOLS, MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO IS COMBINE SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURES TO THE SCHOOL TO ENSURE THAT ALL OF THEM ARE ADEQUATELY USED.

SO PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT.

IS THIS RIGHT? WE HAVE VERY SMALL CAMPUSES THAT DO NOT HAVE A BIG FOOTPRINT.

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RIGHT. AND SO BUT THE FACILITY IS BAD.

SO WHAT WE WOULD DO IS MAYBE REPURPOSE THAT FACILITY FOR ONE OF OUR OTHER PRIORITIES AND MAYBE LIKE HOW WE HAVE OUR TECHNOLOGY CENTER, BUS DEPOT, WE CAN USE THAT LAND FOR THAT.

BUT THOSE ARE SOME OF THE DECISIONS WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE.

AND SO WHAT THEY'LL DO IS THEY'LL COME BACK AND THEY'LL SAY, THESE ARE OUR PRIORITIES.

THEY'LL PRESENT IT TO US, WE'LL TAKE IT.

WE'LL ADD WHATEVER WE FEEL NEEDS TO BE THERE THAT WASN'T ADDRESSED.

AND THEN WE CREATE THE BOND PACKAGE.

YEAH. THANK YOU. AND THEN I GUESS UNDER THE EVALUATE EDUCATIONAL CAMPUS FACILITIES, YOU HAVE RENOVATE AND REBUILD.

I KNOW THAT THERE WAS AN ITEM AND IT DIDN'T GET TALKED ABOUT, BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT WE'RE TALKING ALSO SPED FACILITIES FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION DEPARTMENT.

THAT GETS CAPTURED IN THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A SEPARATE ITEM, BUT I KNOW SOMETHING THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED BEFORE.

WE CAN LIST IT. I THINK IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ON THERE INDIVIDUALLY.

YEAH.

I WOULD THINK THAT SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF UPGRADING ATHLETIC FACILITIES THAT WOULD BE A CATCHALL FOR THE MULTIPURPOSE FACILITY AND THE TURF FIELDS.

WOULD YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THE ARTS TOO? [INAUDIBLE]. DO YOU WANT TO DO IT AS ONE PRIORITY? ATHLETIC AND ARTS? OR WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE IT AS TWO DIFFERENT ONES? I THINK IT WOULD BE TWO. TWO.

YEAH.

WES CAN I ASK A QUESTION HERE? YEAH. IN TERMS OF ON THE ON THE SCREEN, THE LAST ITEM.

I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS.

WHAT THE 95 ACRES IN ROWLETT.

I MEAN, I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE GIVE TO THE COMMITTEE.

DO SOMETHING WITH THE 95 ACRES IN ROWLETT.

IT JUST ENDED UP BECAUSE IT WAS MENTIONED AT THE MEETING.

SO IGNORE THAT.

I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO.

I MEAN, WHAT IS NOT SHOWING UP ON HERE AND WE MIGHT HAVE TO GO BACK ARE THE MAJOR PROJECTS.

SO AND AS FAR AS MAJOR PROJECTS THAT WE IDENTIFIED IN THAT MEETING THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING WAS TRANSPORTATION, MULTI-USE BUILDINGS, WHICH WE'VE DETERMINED REALLY FALLS UNDER ATHLETICS. SO THAT'S ALREADY KIND OF LISTED ELEMENTARY REPLACEMENT THAT'S UNDER CAMPUS EVALUATION FIELD HOUSES THAT'S ALREADY UNDER ATHLETICS, MULTIPURPOSE, AGAIN, GRCT EXTENSION, IT'S ALREADY ON THE SHEET IN THE TECHNOLOGY CENTER.

SO REALLY THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE MEETING THAT HAVE NOT ENDED UP ON THIS SHEET AND JUST DETERMINE IF WE WANT IT ON THE SHEET FOR FOR THE COMMITTEE TO EVALUATE OUR TRANSPORTATION HUB.

DON'T WRITE THAT UP THERE YET.

PERFORMING ARTS CENTER AND A TECHNOLOGY CENTER.

AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION OVER THE COURSE OF TIME.

IT DID NOT END UP BEING DISCUSSED AT THE MEETING.

IT DOES NOT MEAN WE CAN'T DISCUSS IT NOW.

REGARDING AN AG CENTER, A NEW AG BARN.

I WOULD THINK WES, I WOULD THINK AFTER OUR TRANSPORTATION STUDY AND ALL THE DISCUSSION WE HAD, ESPECIALLY IF YOU PUT YOURSELF BACK INTO THOSE DISCUSSIONS AT THAT PLACE IN TIME, I WOULD THINK THE TRANSPORTATION FACILITY UPGRADE, WHATEVER, WHATEVER THAT MEANS WOULD BE A PRIORITY, WHETHER IT'S A NEW ONE OR A REMODELING, I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S JUST SOMETHING IN THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, IN MY OPINION, WOULD BE HIGHLY WARRANTED.

NOW THAT WE'VE HAD A BOARD MEMBER MENTIONED THAT YOU MAY WRITE TRANSPORTATION UP THERE.

AND WE'RE GOING TO GET LITTLE DOTS AND WE CAN PRIORITIZE OUR INDIVIDUAL.

WE'RE GOING TO GO UP AND PUT DOTS UP THERE LATER.

SO, MISS GRIFFIN, I CAN'T SEE FROM HERE IS THE TECHNOLOGY CENTER THERE?

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LET'S KEEP IN MIND, THAT'S THE BACKBONE OF OUR DISTRICT.

AND THAT BUILDING WAS BUILT, BY THE WAY.

SO. WE'RE GOING TO BECOME A STATE OF THE ART SCHOOL DISTRICT.

MS. STANLEY. SO CLARIFY FOR ME HOW ON OVER THERE IT SAYS UPGRADE FINE ARTS FACILITY.

THAT'S THE EXISTING FACILITIES ON THE CAMPUSES AND THE FINE ARTS PROGRAM.

IT'S NOT A MAJOR PROJECT LIKE A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.

SO FOR INSTANCE, WE HAD THINGS LIKE SPACE FOR ELEMENTARY MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS BECAUSE WE SAW THEM ALL BEING STORED IN PORTABLES.

THAT'S MORE OF WHAT UPGRADE FINE ARTS FACILITIES EXISTING.

BUT IF A SCHOOL DIDN'T HAVE IT, THEN HOPEFULLY THAT WOULD FALL UNDER.

WE ACHIEVED 21ST CENTURY LEARNING [INAUDIBLE].

HOW SHOULD WE PUT IT. THAT WOULD BE MORE FOR OUR FACILITIES TO SUPPORT THE CURRICULUM WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND WHETHER OR NOT OUR FACILITIES ARE SUFFICIENT FOR THAT.

A FINE ART PERFORMING ARTS CENTER IS NOT NECESSARILY NEEDED TO SUPPORT THE CURRICULUM.

IT'S DESIRED POSSIBLY BY THE COMMUNITY FOR THE PURPOSE OF ELEVATING PERFORMING ARTS AND THINGS.

BUT YET YOU CAN STILL TEACH MUSIC IN FIFTH GRADE WITHOUT A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.

I JUST NEEDED CLARITY.

I WOULD I WOULD WRITE THAT OUT RINGO ON THE UPGRADE FINE ARTS FACILITIES AT EXISTING CAMPUSES OR WHATEVER THE PROPER.

SO THERE'S NO CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS.

THAT'S NOT A NEW BUILDING.

THAT'S JUST CURRENT FACILITIES AS CURRENTLY EXISTS.

YES, CURRENT CURRENT FACILITIES.

AND BEAR IN MIND, THIS IS NOT WHAT'S GOING TO GO TO THE COMMITTEE.

THIS IS JUST SO WE CAN PUT OUR DOTS NEXT TO IT RIGHT LATER.

MR. GLICK YEAH.

WE TALKED.

WE HAD A WHOLE SESSION ON WHERE WE NEED TO GO WITH FULL DAY PRE-K AND WHETHER OUR EXISTING FACILITIES CAN HANDLE THE GROWTH OF THAT BECAUSE OF CONSTRAINTS.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO ADD POTENTIAL AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE TO ADD IT, BUT ADD NEW NEW PRE-K FACILITIES, NEW PRE-K FACILITY.

MR. JOHNSON. YES.

OVER ON THE UPGRADE WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE TO PUT OVER THERE UPGRADE THE AG FACILITIES? I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHEN THE LAST TIME THAT WAS DONE.

OH THE AG FACILITIES THAT IT DIDN'T END UP ON THE SHEET.

BUT THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED, I KNOW, AS A POTENTIAL MAJOR PROJECT FOR THE DISTRICT, BASICALLY BUILDING THE AG BARN, BUILDING A NEW AG BARN.

SO IT WOULDN'T BE AN UPGRADER.

I MEAN, WE COULD PUT IT AS THAT IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT I WOULD PUT IT AS AN UPGRADE SLASH REPLACEMENT.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING THAT'S BEEN A TOPIC FOREVER.

AND IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT TO THE AG BARN, THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME UPGRADES THAT COULD AND SHOULD BE DONE.

AND IT IS STILL A FUNCTIONAL, VIBRANT PROGRAM.

CORRECT? GOOD PROGRAM.

GREAT PROGRAM.

I THINK WE GENERALLY HAVE A LIST NOW.

I WANT EVERY BOARD MEMBER TO LOOK AT THAT LIST AND DETERMINE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK NEEDS TO BE ON THAT LIST THAT IS NOT ON THAT LIST.

SPEAK NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE.

[INAUDIBLE] OR AT LEAST HOLD YOUR PEACE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. EXACTLY, YES.

IT WAS A BIT TONGUE IN CHEEK.

OK. SINCE I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ALL IT IS WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

AND I GUESS WHEN WE GET TO THE CHARGE, I'LL HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING.

I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THE LIMITED SPACES, THE LIMITED SPACES IN OUR CAFETERIAS.

BUT AGAIN, I HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH EVERY ONE OF THESE SHEETS TO SEE IF IT WAS ADDED THERE.

SO, AGAIN, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

I MEAN, CAFETERIAS WERE DISCUSSED AND I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD GO ON THE SHEET.

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SO I THINK WE NEED TO INCREASE CAFETERIA SIZE TO ACCOMMODATE STUDENT POPULATION.

SO HOWEVER YOU WANT TO SCALE THAT DOWN AND PUT THAT UP THERE, YOU CAN.

BUT I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST IT'S NOT JUST THE FACILITIES, BECAUSE IF WE EXPAND LET'S SAY WE EXPAND THE CAFETERIA, THE KITCHEN, TOO.

SO THE CAFETERIA.

SO I JUST, LIKE, THROW KITCHEN SOMEWHERE IN THERE.

YEAH. YOU CAN'T DO ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER.

OK KITCHEN/CAFETERIA, FIT STUDENT CAPACITY.

SCHOOL. YEAH.

SCHOOL CAPACITY. BECAUSE WE SHOULD BE DOING IT BASED ON THE SCHOOL.

AND JUST FOR CLARITY, THAT DOESN'T MEAN IF YOU HAVE A 1,200 CAPACITY SCHOOL CAFETERIA THAT HOLDS 1,200.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET THEM ALL IN ONE SHIFT.

BUT LIKE REALISTICALLY LUNCH SHIFTS, NO MORE 10-15 LUNCHES.

JOHN AND I WERE THINKING ABOUT PUTTING DAIRY QUEEN IN EVERY SCHOOL.

AND THEN I JUST HAD KIND OF A POINT OF CLARITY, SO I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, BUT.

AND MAYBE IT'S A QUESTION OF DR.

LOPEZ TO GET TIME TO UNDERSTAND THAT ENGAGE BECAUSE THAT'S PRE ME TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ENGAGEMENT, LEARNING AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF COMES DOWN TO.

BECAUSE I WOULD ASSUME THAT WHEN WE SAY, YOU KNOW, THE OPEN CONCEPT AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THE TEACHER'S FACILITIES AND WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS BATHROOMS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

OR IS THAT A BAD ASSUMPTION? I WOULD PUT THAT UP THERE.

YEAH, I AGREE WITH YOU.

THAT'S SEPARATE. THAT WAS A GOOD QUESTION.

SO YOU HAD TO PUT SEPARATE.

THAT'S SOMETHING SEPARATE.

OKAY. SO WHAT CAME TO MIND BASED ON OUR TOUR, IT WAS THE FACULTY RESTROOMS AND KID RESTROOMS, TOO.

THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY ENOUGH FOR THE CAMPUS.

AND THEN THERE'S THE PREP ROOMS, THE TEACHERS FACILITIES AND OR LUNCHROOMS FOR TEACHERS.

IT DOESN'T EXIST IN SOME CASES.

THEY'RE PREPPED. SO HOWEVER YOU WANT TO WORDSMITH THAT.

I'LL PUT COMMON TEACHER SPACES AND IN PARENTHESES I'LL PUT WORK ROOMS, PREP ROOMS, MEETING ROOMS, LUNCH SPACE.

AND WHILE YOU'RE AT IT.

WE'VE MENTIONED IT SEVERAL TIMES, BUT PERFORMING ARTS CENTER PROBABLY NEEDS TO GO DOWN.

BUT THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE ITEM.

SO.

AND THEN DO WE NEED TO CALL OUT SPECIFICALLY THE HVACS AND THE AIR CONDITIONING, I MEAN. OR IS THAT GOING TO BE PART OF AGAIN? I MEAN, I THINK THAT THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF HAVING PRIORITY ONE AND THE TERM PRIORITY TWO ON THE SHEET, BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN JUST START GETTING INTO ALL KINDS OF PHYSICAL PLANT ISSUES. I MEAN, THAT'S THE BENEFIT OF HAVING THE PBK STUDY IS THEY ALREADY DID THAT FOR US.

ANYTHING ELSE? OK.

GREG, TAKE US TO THE NEXT STEP.

THE NEXT STEP IS FOR EACH OF YOU TO USE THE STICKERS THAT YOU HAVE.

YOU HAVE FIVE OF THEM, AND YOU CAN USE THEM IN ANY WAY THAT YOU WANT.

AND BY PLACING A STICKER ON ONE OF THE TWO OR ON BOTH CHART PAPERS NEXT TO THE ITEM THAT YOU'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE THE COMMITTEE CONSIDER IT BE A GUIDING PRINCIPLE.

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YOU CAN PLACE THOSE DOTS NEXT TO THE ITEM ON THE CHART PAPER.

NOW, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, YOU CAN PUT ALL FIVE DOTS ON ONE ITEM IF YOU WANT, OR YOU CAN SPREAD THEM AROUND OR YOU CAN PUT TWO DOTS ON ONE ITEM AND SPREAD THE OTHER THREE THAT YOU HAVE, DISTRIBUTE THOSE AMONG THE OTHER ITEMS. BUT IT'S A WAY FOR US TO THEN STEP BACK AND VISUALLY SEE THAT AS A BOARD TEAM, AS A GROUP, AS A TEAM, WHAT IS THE PRIORITY OR WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES THAT YOU WANT TO COMMUNICATE TO THIS PLANNING GROUP THAT WE PULL TOGETHER? SO YOU MAKE SURE THAT THEY'VE TAKEN THE TIME AND ENERGY AND CARE TO STUDY THOSE AREAS AND BRING BACK RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU.

SO AT THIS TIME, IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, YOU WOULD TAKE YOUR FIVE DOTS, COME UP TO THE CHART PAPER AND PLACE THEM AS AS YOU SEE.

THINK YOU CAN CONTINUE. GREG I'LL WAIT.

I ACTUALLY THINK I THINK [INAUDIBLE] HOLD UP.

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JUST TAKING A LOOK AT THE ITEMS THAT RECEIVE THE MOST NUMBER OF DOTS.

I THINK WE CAN CLEARLY SEE THAT SAFETY AND SECURITY IS OBVIOUSLY AN AREA OF EMPHASIS FOR THIS GROUP.

ACHIEVE 21ST CENTURY LEARNING ENVIRONMENT.

ANOTHER EMPHASIS FOR THIS GROUP, THE PRIORITY ONE ITEMS IDENTIFIED IN THE STUDY, A COUPLE THAT HAVE A LITTLE BIT LESS SUPPORT ON THIS PAGE, EXPANDING THIS CENTER, AND THEN ALSO UPGRADING FINE ARTS FACILITIES OF CURRENT FACILITIES.

ON THIS OTHER CHART, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT RECEIVED, FOR INSTANCE, TRANSPORTATION FACILITY RECEIVED STRONG SUPPORT.

A COUPLE OF OTHERS WITH A LITTLE BIT LESS TECHNOLOGY CENTER, KITCHEN, CAFETERIA.

AND THEN ALSO COMMON AREAS FOR TEACHERS AS FAR AS PLANNING, PREPARATION, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

AND THEN SOME SUPPORT FOR A NEW PRE-K FACILITY AND ALSO PERFORM ARTS CENTER.

BY LOOKING AT THESE DOTS, IT INDICATES A LEVEL OF INTEREST ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD FOR THE COMMITTEE TO HAVE SOME DIRECTION.

SO WHEN THEY COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY GROUP AND A COMMITTEE AND THE BOARD PRESIDENT ADDRESSES THAT COMMUNITY GROUP, WE'RE ABLE TO, AS A BOARD, COMMUNICATE THOSE AREAS OF PARTICULAR EMPHASIS FROM THE BOARD.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU PARTICIPATING IN THE CONVERSATION, THE DISCUSSION.

THAT'S DIFFICULT.

YOU MIGHT REMEMBER IN MY PRESENTATION FROM AUGUST 20TH, I SAID THERE'S ONE AREA THEN THERE IS SORT OF THIS GROAN ZONE, AND THEN WE COME OUT ON THE OTHER AREAS AS FAR AS BUILDING CONSENSUS AND TAKING A LOOK AT WHERE THE THE BOARD IS ON THESE PARTICULAR ITEMS SO THAT IT CAN CLEARLY COMMUNICATE TO THE COMMUNITY GROUP, THIS IS A DIRECTION FOR YOU, AND THIS IS AN AREA OF EMPHASIS THAT WE WANT YOU TO CONSIDER.

MR. SELDERS. SO.

YEAH. SO AS I SAID, THIS IS MAYBE JUST HOW MY BRAIN WORKS.

SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, A LOT OF THOSE ITEMS ARE KIND OF IN A CERTAIN CATEGORY, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, ACHIEVE 21ST CENTURY LEARNING ENVIRONMENT.

WHEN I LOOK AT EVALUATE EDUCATIONAL CAMPUS FACILITIES, RENOVATE AND BUILD OPEN CONCEPT, SPED FACILITIES, UPGRADE KITCHEN CAFETERIA TO SCHOOL CAPACITY, UPGRADE/REPAIR AG FACILITIES, EXPAND GRTC, COMMON AREAS FOR TEACHERS, ALL OF THAT TO ME SAYS 21ST CENTURY LEARNING ENVIRONMENT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.

SO TO HAVE US THEN GO AND SELECT EACH INDIVIDUAL ONE LIKE I THINK IT KIND OF WATERS DOWN THE PROCESS AND DOESN'T GIVE THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE SERVING ON THE COMMITTEE THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

I DON'T THINK IT'S SENDING THE RIGHT MESSAGE.

RIGHT. SPECIAL PROJECTS, TRANSPORTATION FACILITY UPGRADE, TECHNOLOGY FACILITY UPGRADE, BUILDING, NEW PRE-K, PERFORMING ARTS CENTERS.

ALL OF THOSE ARE SPECIAL PROJECTS THAT I THINK COULD BE CONSIDERED.

AGAIN, THOSE THAT INFORMATION CAN BE SAID THESE ARE SPECIAL PROJECTS THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A COMMITTEE, WE AS A BOARD WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO CONSIDER.

SAME THING WITH PRIORITY ONE AND PRIORITY TWO, SAFETY AND SECURITY LIKE.

SO HOW DO WE THEN IF A LOT OF THESE THINGS FALL UNDER THE SAME CATEGORY, HOW DO THEN WE COMMUNICATE TO THE COMMITTEE AND A CHARGE OF WHAT WE WANT THEM TO FOCUS ON.

YEAH. AND IN JUST A MOMENT, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT DEVELOPING A CHARGE THAT'LL BE THE NEXT STEP THAT WILL ACCOMPLISH TODAY IS TAKING A LOOK AT SOME SAMPLE CHARGES AND THEN

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I AGREE WITH YOU THAT A TERM LIKE 21ST CENTURY LEARNING CAN INCLUDE ITEMS SUCH AS OPEN CONCEPT.

I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.

AND SO AS WE TAKE A LOOK AT 21ST CENTURY LEARNING, WHAT I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO IS TO HELP DELINEATE WHAT SOME OF THOSE PIECES ARE.

AND I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT IN THAT WE HAVE SOME VERY SPECIFIC TERMS AND THEN BROADER TERMS HERE THAT WE AT LEAST WILL BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE TO THE GROUP, TO THE COMMITTEE, THAT THIS IS WHERE THE BOARD IS AND WANT YOU TO STUDY THESE ITEMS. AND I THINK, ROBERT, I THINK THAT YOU YOU SAID THIS MAY BE [INAUDIBLE] THE WAY MY BRAIN WORKS.

AND I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY CORRECT.

I THINK YOU YOU HAVE A VERY STRUCTURED MIND BEING AN MIT GUY.

AND SO YOU'RE ALREADY SEEING THREE STEPS AHEAD OF WHAT THE PROCESS IS GOING.

I THINK WHAT YOU'VE DONE MENTALLY IS YOU'VE ALREADY FORMED THE CHARGE IN YOUR HEAD AND YOU'RE ABLE TO SEE WHERE IT'S GOING AND YOU'RE THERE.

I THINK THE PROCESS IS THAT THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH NOW IS TO WALK US TO THAT.

BUT I THINK I THINK YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOMETHING THAT LOOKS MORE LIKE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE CHARGE, THE COMMITTEE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT.

I MEAN, THAT'S NOT IT.

IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING WITH TERMS. BUT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE ALL THESE ELEMENTS ARE ENCOMPASSED IN WHAT IS GOING TO BE THERE.

AND WE JUST WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT EACH BOARD MEMBER KNOWS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S THAT'S DEAR TO THEM AND IMPORTANT TO THEM IS GOING TO END UP IN ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES.

AND THIS IS A WAY YOU CAN SEE IT KIND OF DEVELOP LINEARLY.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT WAS INCLUDED AND IT WAS INCLUSIVE.

SO IF SOMEONE HAS TO GO BACK AND ASK, IS ELIMINATING OPEN CONCEPT REALLY A PRIORITY UNDER CREATING A 21ST CENTURY LEARNING ENVIRONMENT? IF THAT'S WHAT THE COMMITTEE GETS CHARGED WITH, YOU CAN GO BACK AND WATCH THIS MEETING AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS.

SO BECAUSE WE DISCUSSED IT AND WE DISCUSSED HOW TO BE INCLUDED.

MS. GRIFFIN.

YES. SO ARE YOU GOING TO SUMMARIZE THESE THAT ARE UP HERE NOW AND GIVE IT TO US IN A REPORT AND THE AMOUNT OF FORCE FOR THEM? WE WILL WE WILL REWRITE THESE.

YES. FOR FOR THE BOARD AND FOR THE COMMITTEE.

BUT THAT US I'M JUST US RIGHT NOW.

WITH WITH THIS WE WILL GET HOW MANY VOTES EACH OF THESE GOT OR HOW MANY SUGGESTIONS.

YES, MA'AM. SO YOU WILL ORDER THAT IN AND I WILL TAKE A PICTURE OF THAT BEFORE I LEAVE TODAY, SO I REPORT IT ACCURATELY.

BACK TO YOU. YES, MA'AM.

SO MY QUESTION TO YOU, MR. PRESIDENT AND SUPERINTENDENT.

SO HOW DOES WHAT WE JUST DID THIS EXERCISE.

HOW DOES IT GUIDE US FOR WHAT I THINK? LET'S KIND OF HIT UPON IT A LITTLE BIT.

BUT HOW DOES THIS POSITION US MOVING FORWARD? IN MY OPINION, WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS KIND OF VISION CHARGING STATEMENTS LIKE WHAT ROBERT IS TALKING ABOUT, BROADER STATEMENTS THAT ARE SENT TO THE COMMITTEE SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND THE DIRECTION, WHAT THE VALUE IN WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS DETERMINE AND KIND OF MONUMENT, WHAT INDIVIDUAL PRIORITIES FALL UNDER THOSE BROADER CATEGORIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THE CHARGE.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE DID WHAT WE JUST DID IS SO WHENEVER YOU HAVE IN A CHARGE STATEMENT, THE COMMITTEE IS CHARGED BY THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO EVALUATE AND PROVIDE A 21ST CENTURY LEARNING ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR FOR OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH AND DETERMINE WHAT THAT MEANS WITH GREATER DETAIL, IF THEY NEED IT, BECAUSE THEY'LL KNOW THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED IT.

ROBERT JUST LISTED OUT ALL THE THINGS HE FELT LIKE LISTED IN 21ST CENTURY ENVIRONMENT.

THEY'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THIS.

THIS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT'S ACCESSIBLE TO THEM.

SO WHILE IT WON'T BE IN THE CHARGE, NOT ALL OF THIS, IT WILL BE SOMETHING THEY CAN USE TO KIND OF SEE WHAT WE PRIORITIZED IN OUR DISCUSSIONS. AND THEY CAN UTILIZE THAT HOWEVER THEY FEEL IS APPROPRIATE INSIDE THEIR COMMITTEE.

THAT'S WHAT THAT PURPOSE WAS FOR.

BUT WE'RE STILL GOING TO THE NEXT STEP IS TO NOW FORMULATE A CHARGE THAT IS GOING TO BE GIVEN TO THEM.

AND TO ADD TO THAT REAL QUICK, DR.

LOPEZ FINISH. JUST TO ADD TO IT, IT'S REALLY GOOD TO CALIBRATE.

SO YOU COULD ALL SEE WHAT EACH OTHER'S THINKING.

YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY GOOD TO LOOK UP.

AND I MEAN, IF WE PUT THEM ALL UP THERE AND WE DIDN'T CALIBRATE AND THEN WE STARTED MOVING WITH THE CHARGE STATEMENT, SOME OF US MIGHT STILL FEEL LIKE WHATEVER WE PUT UP THERE MIGHT TAKE THE BIGGEST PRIORITY.

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YOU CAN PUT MORE THAN ONE DOTS THERE.

YOU KNOW, THEORETICALLY, IF I HAD FIVE DOTS, I COULD PUT ALL FIVE ON ONE PLACE, BUT THEN THAT WOULD LEAVE OUT OTHERS.

RIGHT? AND SO WE GET THERE AND WE CAN PRETTY MUCH SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY FELT REALLY STRONGLY ABOUT A FEW AREAS. AND I THINK THAT CALIBRATION HELPS US MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CHARGE STATEMENT AND NO ONE'S FEELINGS ARE HURT AND WE'RE ALREADY MENTALLY CONSOLIDATING.

FOR INSTANCE, I THINK EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD PROBABLY WANTS TO ELIMINATE OPEN CONCEPT SCHOOLS.

BASED ON WHAT I'VE HEARD, NO ONE PUT A DOT BY IT BECAUSE THEY ALL REALIZE THAT'S GOING TO FALL UNDER EITHER, YOU KNOW, 21ST CENTURY LEARNING ENVIRONMENT OR SAFETY AND SECURITY.

SO I DON'T WANT TO USE A PRECIOUS DOT ON THAT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE ADDRESSED.

I HEARD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE I'M NOT GOING TO SAY WHO.

I'M NOT GOING TO PUT ONE BY PARTY ONE.

I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO END UP ON THERE ANYWAY.

SO WE'RE ALREADY STARTING TO GROUP THIS STUFF IN MENTALLY, AND THAT'S KIND OF THE PURPOSE OF THE EXERCISE.

MR. WHAT'S YOUR NAME AGAIN? I DON'T KNOW. MILLER I THINK IN AN OVERSIGHT THAT HAS OCCURRED IS ALONG WITH TRANSPORTATION, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME KIND OF BUS SCHEDULE. I THINK THAT'S ONE THING.

WE'VE ALMOST PUNTED TO THE CURB HERE FOR A YEAR.

THAT'S NOT A BOND ISSUE, THOUGH.

ARE YOU SURE? I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO ASK THE VOTERS TO APPROVE A BUS SCHEDULE.

WHERE WILL THE MONEY COME FROM IF NOT? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT NEW BUSSES? YES. OK.

THAT'S. YEAH, I MEAN.

WELL, WE CAN OBVIOUSLY GET NEW BUSSES WITH A BOND.

I WOULD INCORPORATE IT WITH TRANSPORTATION FACILITY/BUS REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE OR BUS REPLACEMENT STRATEGY, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD.

OKAY. I MEAN, IT'S GOT TO BE THE MONEY'S GOT TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE WES.

YEAH. I MEAN, WHEN YOU SAY BUS SCHEDULE, THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.

I WASN'T THINKING. I WAS LIKE, NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT REPLACEMENT OF FLEET THAT WE'VE WE'VE KIND OF PUSHED THAT OUT.

AND THEN MY ONLY OTHER COMMENT ON THIS WHOLE THING, ON THIS WHOLE THING IS THAT EVEN ITEMS THAT DIDN'T GET A DOT ARE STILL PRIORITIES, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE NOT A PRIORITY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET A DOT THAT TO ME, EVERYTHING UP THERE, YOU KNOW, I COULD SUPPORT.

BUT WHEN GIVEN FIVE DOTS, I DON'T WANT THE COMMITTEE TO THINK SINCE THERE'S NOT A DOT BY IT, IT DOESN'T DESERVE CONSIDERATION.

TRUE. BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHERE KIND OF THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO KIND OF YEAH, IT'S EASY TO SUPPORT EVERYTHING, BUT YOU HAVE TO PUT YOU KIND OF HAVE TO PUT PUSH YOUR SKIN INTO THE GAME ON WHERE YOU THINK IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THAT THAT EXERCISE IS FOR.

AND AGAIN, THE COMMITTEE CAN CONSIDER ALL OF IT, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND LOOK AND SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT THE BOARD DEEMED MOST APPROPRIATE.

RIGHT? UM, ONE CLARIFYING QUESTION, MS. GRIFFIN. YOU SAY IT.

SPEAK NOW, MOVE NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND THEN I SAID IT WAS TONGUE IN CHEEK.

OKAY, SO THESE ARE THE CATEGORIES.

NO, THOSE ARE NOT THE CATEGORIES.

WELL, THESE ARE WHATEVER.

WE STILL DIDN'T COME UP WITH A NAME.

SO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THIS LIST IS FROM BOARD CORPORATE.

YES. AND THINGS WILL NOT BE ADDED TO IT.

I'M TALKING ABOUT WITH US AND ADMINISTRATION.

IT CAN BE ADDED WITH THE COMMITTEE IF IT FORMS AND IF IT MEETS.

IS THAT A RIGHT ASSUMPTION? IS THAT RIGHT OR WRONG? IT GENERALLY IT'S RIGHT.

IF THERE IS SOME MASSIVE OMISSION THAT WE HAVE NOT CONSIDERED, WE COULD ADD A BOARD MEETING, ADD IT TO AN AGENDA, DISCUSS IT AND THEN AMEND THE CHARGE.

SO IT WILL COME BACK TO US.

YES. OKAY.

THAT'S THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO GET CLARITY BECAUSE BUT TO ADD SOMETHING TO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE TODAY WOULD REQUIRE A MEETING OF SEVEN BOARD. VERY GOOD.

THAT'S ALL I NEEDED CLARITY ON.

THANK YOU. READY TO MOVE TO A CHARGE STATEMENT? YES, THE CHARGE STATEMENT, AS THE SLIDE SAYS, IS A STATEMENT OF PURPOSE.

[IV. B. Consideration and Possible Action Regarding Establishing the Citizen Bond Committee’s Charge]

SO THEY WILL COME TOGETHER AND LOOK FOR REALLY A MESSAGE, A STATEMENT FROM THE BOARD AS TO, OKAY, WE'RE TOGETHER.

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THE FIRST EXAMPLE IS THE MOST DETAILED WITH FIVE BULLET ITEMS, AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE THAT WOULD SAY THE PLANNING COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION WILL CONSIDER THE NEEDS OF ALL DISTRICT STUDENTS REPRESENT THE PRIORITIES, EXPECTATIONS AND VALUES OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

USE FACTS AND DATA TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS.

STRIVE FOR EQUITY OF FACILITIES DEFINED AS NOT BEING THE SAME, BUT RATHER AS SUPPORTING COMMON EDUCATIONAL GOALS OF THE DISTRICT, INCLUDING SAFETY AND SECURITY, AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH ARE FISCALLY SOUND.

THAT WOULD BE THE MOST DETAILED CHARGE STATEMENT AND ONE THAT'S BEEN BEEN USED BEFORE.

HERE'S ANOTHER ONE.

GARLAND ISD BOND PLANNING COMMITTEE WILL EVALUATE THE CURRENT NEEDS OF THE DISTRICT AND HOW TO IMPROVE LEARNING SPACES THAT COMBINE INDIVIDUALIZATION, COLLABORATION AND EXCELLENCE FOR ALL STUDENTS.

DURING COLLABORATION DECISION MAKING THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP WILL ALSO RELY ON THE MASTER FACILITIES PLAN.

THE PLANNING COMMITTEE WILL MAKE FACILITY RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD.

THE THIRD EXAMPLE I HAVE FOR YOU THE LAST ONE IS THE MOST BRIEF AND THE MOST GENERAL, BUT ALSO ONE USED BY A VERY LARGE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT I WORKED WITH.

AND THIS ONE SAYS THE OBJECTIVE OF THE GARLAND ISD BOND PLANNING COMMITTEE IS TO DEVELOP A FACILITY REFERENDUM RECOMMENDATION FOR PRESENTATION TO GISD'S BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND ULTIMATELY THE GISD COMMUNITY.

SO YOU CAN SEE THEY CAN BE WRITTEN IN VERY DIFFERENT WAYS, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE AREAS OF EMPHASIS OR PRIORITY THAT WE JUST WENT THROUGH IN A CONSENSUS BUILDING TO SEE WHAT OUR LEVEL OF SUPPORT FOR THOSE ITEMS ARE.

THIS WOULD BE THE STATEMENT THAT ACCOMPANIES THOSE PRIORITIES SO THAT WHEN WE PULL THE COMMITTEE TOGETHER AND THE MESSAGE IS DELIVERED TO THEM, HOW IS IT AND WHAT IS IT THAT YOU AS A BOARD WANT TO COMMUNICATE TO THE COMMITTEE? AGAIN, YOU'VE GOT ALL THREE IN THE HARD COPY BEFORE YOU FROM SPECIFIC TO MORE GENERAL, KNOWING THAT YOU'VE GOT THE PRIORITIES THAT WOULD ALSO BE PRESENTED TO THE COMMITTEE.

SO IS THERE A PREFERENCE OF THE THREE THAT I'VE SHOWN YOU, A, B OR C THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER AS A STARTING POINT? NO, THIS IS NOT A STICKER ACTIVITY.

NO MORE STICKERS TODAY.

WE ONLY HAD ONE STICKER ACTIVITY.

THIS IS NOT A STICKER ACTIVITY.

IS THERE ONE, A, B, OR C? AGAIN, FOR MORE SPECIFIC AND DETAILED TOWARD MORE GENERAL AND BRIEF THAT WE'D LIKE TO USE AS A STARTING PLACE.

I'LL START. I REALLY PREFER C, I'LL TELL YOU WHY.

OK. THE OTHERS WERE A BIT REDUNDANT AND IT WAS ALMOST TELLING THEM EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO BECAUSE IT WAS THE SAME THING JUST SAID DIFFERENT WAYS AND SO REALLY DIDN'T LEAVE MUCH TO THE IMAGINATION.

NOT THAT WE WANT TO LEAVE THE IMAGINATION, BUT THIS IS REALLY ASKING THEM TO TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE GATHERED.

TAKE A LOOK AT OUR FACILITIES, OUR PROGRAMS, WHATEVER YOU WANT, AND COME TO US WITH WHAT THEY THINK THE GISD SHOULD LOOK LIKE TODAY AND IN THE FUTURE.

AND THAT'S REALLY THEIR THEIR ROLE IS TO BRING A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU AND MAKE THAT PRESENTATION.

AFTER THAT, IT IS THE BOARD TO TAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION AND DO WITH IT WHAT, WHAT WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.

I MEAN, BUT YES, INCLUDING I MEAN, WE DON'T WANT TO EXCLUDE THESE AREAS THAT WE SAY IS VERY IMPORTANT.

THESE THIS THIS DOES NOT PUT ANYBODY IN A BOX.

IT DOESN'T MAKE ANYBODY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO PLAY OUTSIDE OR OUTSIDE THE LINES WITH WHATEVER THEY DECIDE TO BRING FORWARD.

AND WE DON'T WANT TO STUNT ANYBODY'S, YOU KNOW, LET THEM BE PASSIONATE ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT.

[INAUDIBLE]. MR. MILLER YEAH.

I WAS GOING TO AGREE OF THE THREE I LOOKED AT.

I LIKE C, NOT KNOWING EXACTLY WHO I WAS GOING TO BE ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE, BUT HAVING LOOKED AT A BUNCH OF NAMES AND THERE'S SOME REALLY GIFTED AND TALENTED PEOPLE,

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AND I'D LIKE FOR THEM TO HAVE THE FREEDOM THEY NEED TO COME BACK TO US WITH AS GOOD A PLAN AS THEY CAN TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THIS BOARD. AND I THINK GIVING THEM THE FREEDOM TO BE, TO BE WHO THEY ARE AND DO WHAT THEY DO IS IS EXCELLENT.

AND SO WHEN I READ C, I IMMEDIATELY THAT'S THE ONE THAT WAS MY FAVORITE.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM TRUSTEES? NO LOVE FOR A, NO LOVE FOR B.

MR. SELDERS? YES. NOT THAT THERE IS NO LOVE FOR THEM.

THEY GOT MAD LOVE.

I LIKE C, BECAUSE IT IS SIMPLE AND I AGREE WITH WHAT'S BEEN STATED.

AND I THINK THOUGH WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME FRAME OF REFERENCE.

I THINK WE DON'T WANT THE COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND THEN SAY, OH, WE DON'T REALLY THINK WE WANT THAT.

WE WANT SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

SO I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE THE EXPECTATION EITHER.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE NEEDS TO BE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS BASED ON X, Y, Z, OR I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE IN CHARGE B, IT SAYS UTILIZING THE MASTER FACILITIES PLAN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE STATE THAT, BUT I THINK SOMETHING NEEDS TO KIND OF SET A FOUNDATION FROM WHICH THEY BEGIN.

AND THEN IF THEY WANT TO CRAFT AND CREATE FROM THERE, I THINK AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO BE BASED ON PREDICATED ON SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT OR SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING TO. YEAH.

THE ONLY REASON I FLIP TO THE EXAMPLE A WAS THE SECOND BULLET.

I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AT LEAST REPRESENT THE PRIORITIES AT WHICH WERE OUTLINED BY THE BOARD IN SOME WAY.

YES. AND SO IF WE WERE TO TAKE EXAMPLE C AND BE ABLE TO CRAFT IT IN A WAY SO THAT THERE'S AT LEAST AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THE BOARD PRIORITIES.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH.

I MEAN, I THINK YOU COULD LITERALLY JUST PUT THE SECOND BULLET ON THE END OF EXAMPLE C AND THAT SECOND BULLET.

WHOOPS, WENT A LITTLE TOO FAR DIDN'T I.

JUST PUT THE WORD USING AS OPPOSED TO REPRESENT YOU PUT USING THE PRIORITIES, EXPECTATIONS AND VALUES OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

SO THE OBJECTIVE OF THE GARLAND ISD BOND PLANNING COMMITTEE IS TO DEVELOP A FACILITY REFERENDUM RECOMMENDATION FOR PRESENTATION TO THE GISDS BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND ULTIMATELY THE GISD COMMITTEE REPRESENTING THE PRIORITIES, EXPECTATIONS AND VALUES OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

YOU DON'T LIKE THAT [INAUDIBLE] WELL, NO.

WHAT YOU JUST SAID WAS WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY REPRESENT THE VALUES AND ARE THE VALUES AND PRIORITIES THAT WE JUST GOING OVER.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THAT SENTENCE SAYS.

YEAH. SO HOW WOULD WE WANT TO ADD A PHRASE TO EXAMPLE C THAT WOULD REFLECT THAT? HOW ARE THESE PRIORITIES GOING TO BE SHARED? IS THAT YOU SAID IT'S GOING TO BE THE CHARGE PLUS SOMETHING ELSE.

YES. THEY WOULD BE SHARED BY THE BOARD PRESIDENT FIRST NIGHT, YOU KNOW, EXHIBIT, APPENDIX, POWERPOINT.

YES. AND EVERYONE WOULD HAVE HARD COPY OF IT.

NO, BUT I MEAN, I WAS JUST SAYING IT TO REFERENCE LIKE YOU CAN SAY, THE OBJECTIVE OF THE GARLAND ISD PLANNING COMMITTEE IS TO USE EXHIBIT A, IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING OUR PRIORITIES ARE TO HELP DEVELOP A FACILITIES REFERENDUM RECOMMENDATION FOR PRESENTATION TO GISD.

SO THEY HAVE SOME FRAME OF REFERENCE BASED ON THE PRIORITIES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

I DON'T KNOW. SO WE COULD SAY SOMETHING LIKE THE OBJECTIVE OF THE GARLAND ISD BOND PLANNING COMMITTEE IS TO DEVELOP A FACILITY REFERENDUM RECOMMENDATION.

THAT'S NOT EASY TO SAY.

REFERENDUM RECOMMENDATION WHICH REPRESENTS THE PRIORITY THE BOARD PRIORITIES FOR PRESENTATION TO GISD BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND ULTIMATELY THE COMMUNITY.

IF WE WORK THAT PHRASE IN AFTER THE WORD RECOMMENDATION.

TO ME YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT I HAVE TO DO WHAT THE BOARD'S ALREADY LAID OUT? I WAS GOING TO MAKE A STATEMENT HERE.

I'M SORRY. I WAS ON THE PREVIOUS BOND STEERING COMMITTEE.

AND NO, NOT TO ANYBODY.

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AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS NOT THE WAY TO DO IT.

I FAVOR C IN ITS ENTIRETY, GIVE THE BOND STEERING COMMITTEE THE FREEDOM TO BE AS CREATIVE AND HAVE AS MUCH INPUT AS THEY WANT.

IT ALWAYS COMES BACK TO US TO BRUSH UP, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMMUNICATED TO OUR PRIORITIES.

THERE'S NO WAY THEY WON'T.

IT'S GOING TO BE ON A PRESENTATION.

THEY'RE GOING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM.

WHAT WE WANT THEM TO DO IS USE THEIR TALENTS AND SKILLS AND THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY BASED ON PARENTS AND STUDENTS AND OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO COME BACK WITH AND USING THIS 55 POUND BOOK TO COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO US THAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE BOARD THEN GETS TO BRUSH INTO THE DOCUMENT THAT WE NEED OR WE FEEL LIKE IT'S APPROPRIATE TO GO FORWARD WITH.

SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE THAT'S WHY I COME FROM THAT VIEWPOINT.

NEVER MIND THAT.

I GUESS MY QUESTION THEN IS SO IF WE JUST SPENT HOWEVER LONG WE SPENT GOING THROUGH ALL OF THIS AND WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT TO THE COMMUNITY, WHICH FROM WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THEY'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH WHAT THEY FEEL IS OR SHOULD BE A PART OF THE BOND PROGRAM.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BRUSH IT UP.

SO WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY MEAN? I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

WELL, THE BOARD GETS FINAL VOTE.

MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROCESS IS RIGHT.

SO WHAT THEY COME BACK WITH DOESN'T REPRESENT THE THINGS OR THE PRIORITIES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

DO WE JUST SAY NO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME? BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. WELL.

WELL, MY COMMENT TO THAT WOULD BE.

IT CAN'T.

IT'S NOT GOING TO STRAY TOO FAR FROM.

FROM THESE THINGS AND SOME OF THE PRIORITIES WE HAVE, I DON'T THINK THAT'S PRACTICAL, BUT IF IT DOES, THEN MAYBE WE'RE NOT AS CONNECTED TO THE COMMUNITY AS WE NEED TO BE. YEAH, I MEAN, I MEAN, ALL OF THAT IS POSSIBLE, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT WHAT'S GOING TO BE IN PLACE TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING.

RIGHT. IF WE DON'T? WHAT DO YOU WANT TO PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING? WELL, WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET IS SOME SORT OF SORT OF REFERENCE POINT.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU HAVE TO DO EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE SAYING.

THAT'S NOT MY CHARGE TO THE COMMITTEE.

MY CHARGE IS LIKE, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

IF YOU GUYS WANT TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT, I MEAN, I THINK IT SHOULD BE I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN THAT COMMITTEE WOULD SAY WE DON'T CARE ABOUT SAFETY AND SECURITY.

I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CASE.

BUT I GUESS WHAT I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AT IS WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME FRAME OF REFERENCE SO THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

TO ME, THE FRAME OF REFERENCE IS RIGHT THERE ON THE BOARD AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET THAT LIST I JUST DON'T THINK WE OUGHT TO FORCE IT AND SAY YOU CANNOT DEVIATE FROM.

NO, I DON'T. I HOPE THAT'S NOT WHAT CAME ACROSS TO YOU ALL.

WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHAT IS COMING ACROSS THAT.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE WANTING.

BUT BY SAYING WITHIN THE CONFINES OF WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED OR WITHIN THE YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE ALL QUIETLY TELLING ME THAT I CAN THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX AS LONG AS I STAY INSIDE THE BOX.

SO HOW CAN WHAT WOULD SAY, FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, THAT YOU HAVE THE REIGN TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX AND COME UP WITH GREAT IDEAS? BUT THERE IS THERE ARE SOME PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE AS A DISTRICT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ALSO INCLUDE, BUT WITHOUT FEELING LIKE YOU'RE HANDCUFFED OR FEELING LIKE YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, CONFINED. SO FOR ME, IT WOULD BE THAT STATEMENT AND THAT IT WOULD BE FOLLOWED WITH A PRESENTATION OF HERE IS BASED ON WHAT THE BOARD KNOWS WHAT.

SO WHY GIVE THEM THAT THEN? WHY GIVE THEM THAT? TO LET THEM KNOW WHERE WE'RE THINKING SO THAT IF WE HAVE A DISCONNECT RIGHT AWAY, WE'RE GOING TO KNOW IT RIGHT AWAY AND WE NEED TO KNOW IT.

I MEAN, IF WE GO AND DO THIS WORK AND WE SAY, HERE'S WHAT HERE'S WHAT WE'RE THINKING, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE SAYING, GO DO THIS.

HERE ARE SOME OF OUR THOUGHTS.

RIGHT? HERE'S JUST SOME OF OUR THOUGHTS.

IF THEY COME BACK AND THEY SAY, YOUR THOUGHTS ARE HORRIBLE AND WE WANT TO GO DO A WATER PARK, THEN WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

YES, YOU'RE RIGHT. WE HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM.

BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT HAPPENING.

AND IF IT DOES AND I THINK WE HAVE TO ADDRESS IT WHEN IT HAPPENS, AND I THINK THAT HAPPENS THROUGH YOUR YOUR WHOEVER YOU THEY'RE GOING TO VOTE IN THEIR CHAIRPERSON OR ASSISTANT CHAIRPERSON.

RIGHT. AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ADMINISTRATION THERE.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE STEERING PEOPLE THERE AT ALL TIMES.

AND IF SOMETHING'S STEERING FUNNY, I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT WE WOULD FIND OUT ABOUT IT.

YOU EVEN TALKED ABOUT HOW WE CAN LISTEN AS IT'S GOING ON.

BUT SO I SPEAK FROM BEING ON THE GARLAND BOND.

SO I WASN'T ON THE BOND COMMITTEE, BUT I WAS ON ONE OF THE COMMITTEES THAT PRESENTED TO THE COMMITTEE.

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OKAY, WELL, THEN HERE YOU GO AHEAD AND DECIDE HOW TO SPEND IT.

SO WE TURNED IT INTO THIS IS OUR VISION AND IT'S ALL WITHIN THE MASTER PLAN.

IT'S ALL WITHIN OUR CODES, IT'S ALL WITHIN EVERYTHING.

NOW YOU GUYS GO AND DO SOMETHING WITH IT, AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SEE.

COME BACK FROM THIS COMMITTEE.

THAT MAKES SENSE AT ALL.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT TWO THINGS HAVE TO HAPPEN WHENEVER YOU HAVE THESE THINGS, RICK [INAUDIBLE] FROM PLCS CALLS IT LOOSE, TIGHT LEADERSHIP.

AND WHAT IT IS, IS YOU HAVE THE FREEDOM TO EXPLORE.

BUT WITHIN THESE CONFINES, YOU'RE YOU'RE GIVING UP SOME CONFINES TO WORK IN.

RIGHT. SO, FOR INSTANCE, WE DON'T SAY GO BUILD A BUILDING, RIGHT? WE SAY IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A BUILDING, YOU HAVE TO BUILD IT ON THIS LOT.

YOU CAN'T JUST GO BUILD A BUILDING ANYWHERE AND WHEREVER YOU DESIRE.

THOSE THINGS DON'T HAPPEN.

YOU'RE GIVING THEM THE PLOT TO LOOK AT BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE GET ENTHRALLED WITH IS JUST THINK OF THE COMMITTEE NOT UNDERSTANDING THE TECHNOLOGY CENTER.

THAT'S A VERY ABSTRACT THING TO THINK ABOUT, BUT THAT IS THE BACKBONE OF EVERYTHING WE DO.

IF THE TECHNOLOGY CENTER GOES DOWN OUR AIR FOR THE ENTIRE DISTRICT GOES DOWN, THAT'S SCARY.

THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE PHONES AND THE LIGHTS AND THE WI-FI AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

THE AIR GOES OUT.

SO WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME CONFINES FOR THEM TO TO WORK THROUGH.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THERE'S SOME CREATIVITY THERE.

WE DO HAVE PLUMBING, ROOFING ISSUES.

RIGHT. THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT MIGHT BE IN HERE, BUT IT COULD GET OVERLOOKED REAL QUICKLY WHENEVER YOU START ADDING PROJECTS.

RIGHT. SO YOU'RE JUST GIVING THEM A TEMPLATE TO WORK ON, RIGHT? AND THEN FROM THAT TEMPLATE THEY'LL COME BACK WITH US WITH SUGGESTIONS.

AND FROM THERE, THAT'S WHENEVER THE BOARD WILL SAY, GREAT, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THIS, WE'RE GOING TO ADD A FEW OTHER THINGS OR WE'RE GOING TO SUBTRACT A FEW THINGS. THE THING IS, WE DIDN'T GIVE THEM A BUDGET, RIGHT? THEY MIGHT COME BACK AND SAY, WE HAVE THE WE HAVE THE BEST PLAN EVER.

IT'S THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN EVER.

AND IT'S $1.7 BILLION THAT BECAUSE THERE'S NO CONFINES ON BUDGET THERE.

AND THEN WHEN THEY COME HERE, THE BOARD HAS TO MAKE A DECISION.

DO WE GO FOR $1.7 OR DO WE GO LOWER? THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE TO COME OUT THROUGH THROUGH THE COMMITTEE PROCESS.

SO THERE'S ALWAYS CONFINES.

WE CAN'T SAY WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT THERE AND GIVE THEM A CHARGE.

NOW, IN HERE, WHAT I DON'T SEE RIGHT IS YOU WILL BUILD US THIS, THIS AND THIS, RIGHT? YOU SEE A DETERMINING PRIORITY TWOS TO BE INCLUDED.

WE WANT PRIORITY ONES.

WE SHOULD HAVE. YOU CAN CHANGE THAT TO RECOMMENDATIONS ON PRIORITY ONE LISTINGS, EVALUATE PRIORITY TWOS, 21ST CENTURY LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS, ALL OF THAT. I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY EXCITING AND THERE'S A LOT OF KEY CONCEPTUAL FRAMEWORKS THAT YOU CAN GIVE THEM WITH.

SO I MIGHT BE THINKING OF 21ST CENTURY AND I MIGHT BE A PARENT THAT JUST HAS A NEWBORN.

SO WHERE'S MY MIND PRE K RIGHT.

LIKE OH MAN, WE NEED PRE K OR I MIGHT HAVE LATER ELEMENTARY KIDS.

BY THE TIME ALL THIS GETS BUILT, I'M THINKING HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THREE OR FOUR YEARS MY KID IS GOING TO BE IN HIGH SCHOOL.

SO ALL OF THAT'S GOING TO COME IN TO WHATEVER PACKAGE THEY BRING US.

BUT THERE HAS TO BE SOME SOME CONFINES.

YOU CAN'T JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, HEY, HERE'S HERE'S SOME IDEAS, COME BACK WITH IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'LL COME BACK.

MR. GLICK. YEAH.

WE CANNOT ALLOW.

THIS IS JUST ME. THIS COMMITTEE TO COME BACK IN ONE DAY.

WE SEE YOUR PRESENTATION AND IT'S FOR SIGNIFICANT MORE MONEY THAN DR.

RINGO HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS OF HOW MUCH WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SPEND IN THIS BOND.

AND I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT HE'S GOING TO MAKE A PRESENTATION, I THINK, IN THE FIRST MEETING.

SO THEY'LL HAVE SOME IDEA, I BELIEVE, OF OUR CONSTRAINTS.

I WOULD HOPE INSIDE THOSE CONSTRAINTS.

AND THAT'S WHY I AGREE WITH SOME OF THE POINTS ROBERT WAS MAKING, IS WE CANNOT JUST OPEN THIS UP AND SAY, DRAW UP WHATEVER YOU LIKE, BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN TAKE A LOT OF NUMBERS AND YOU CAN BE AT THE NUMBER YOU ARE SUGGESTING JUST LIKE THAT.

AND WE COULD DO THAT, BUT WE CAN'T AFFORD IT, NOR DO WE, NOR DO I EXPECT THAT THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD APPROVE, NOR DO WE WANT THEM TO COME BACK AND BE SHOCKED WHEN THEY GIVE US.

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THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED.

AND WE START CARVING AWAY.

THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT THE WAY THIS SHOULD WORK.

AND I FEEL WE WERE MUCH CLOSER IN 2014.

WE WERE $7 MILLION APART FROM THE NUMBER THEY SUGGESTED TO WHAT WE DID.

SO I THINK THERE HAS TO BE SOME CONSTRAINTS.

AND THE PRESENTATION, I THINK, SHOULD BE WHATEVER THE STATEMENT IS, THAT'S THAT'S WORDS.

I ASSUME THEY'RE GOING TO GET THIS BOOK.

I ASSUME THEY'RE GOING TO GET THESE CHARTS, WHICH ARE REALLY, REALLY HELPFUL.

AND THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. I APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE IT'S ALL COMPREHENSIVE.

IT'S ALL ON A PAGE NOW WHERE IT SHOULD BE.

THEY'LL GET OUR IDEAS AND THEN HAVE THAT AS A CONCEPT TO START WITH.

AND I AGREE WITH YOU, JAMIE, I LOVE SOME OF THE NAMES ON THERE.

I THINK THERE'S SOME GREAT THINKERS ON THERE, PEOPLE WHO WE HAVE REPRESENTED THIS THESE THREE CITIES FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

I THINK WE'LL COME UP WITH GREAT IDEAS, BUT I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME BASIS.

SO, ROBERT, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THANK YOU, SIR. SO WITHIN THE PRIORITIES, SHOULD WE PUT THAT WE WILL NOT INCREASE THE TAX RATE RECOMMENDATION WILL NOT CAUSE AN INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE CONSTRAINT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE THE MATH IS WHAT THE MATH IS.

DR. RINGO'S BEEN GOING OVER IT NOW FOR FOUR MONTHS, SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE EASY TO SEE WHAT THE PLAYING FIELD IS, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, BECAUSE IT'S LAID OUT HERE AND IT'S LAID OUT IN OUR FULL AFFORDABILITY.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

AND IF YOU GO BEYOND THAT, I MEAN, THE BOARD IS NOT GOING TO HAVE MUCH OF A CHOICE.

YOU HAVE TO SAY, NO, WE GOT TO CUT IT BACK.

SO IT'S THE PRACTICAL REALITY OF THE PROCESS I'M FINE WITH, BUT LET THE COMMITTEE WORK WITHIN THIS LET'S CALL THEM.

THE NATURAL CONSTRAINTS.

THE NATURAL CONSTRAINTS ARE WE KNOW WHAT THE BOOK SAYS AND WE KNOW WHAT THE BUDGET SAYS.

AND THAT'S GOING TO BE COMMUNICATED UP FRONT, I'M ASSUMING.

IS THAT RIGHT DR. RINGO? YES, SIR. THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE PRESENTATIONS AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS.

SO DEFINE THE PLAYING FIELD, BUT THEN LET THE TEAMS GO PLAY.

THAT'S REALLY MY PHILOSOPHY TO THIS WHOLE THING.

WHAT MATERIALS WILL THE COMMITTEE BE PROVIDED WITH? SO WE HAVE SOME CLARITY ON THAT.

SO WHEN THE COMMITTEE COMES IN TO EVALUATE EVERYTHING TRADITIONALLY, WHAT TYPE OF MATERIALS ARE THEY GIVEN? TYPICALLY, THE COMMITTEE IS PROVIDED COPIES OF EVERY PRESENTATION THAT IS MADE AT THEIR MEETINGS.

SO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE CHARGE AND THE PRIORITIES FROM THE BOARD.

PRESENTATIONS ON FINANCES.

PRESENTATIONS ON WHAT OUR PRIORITY ONES AND PRIORITY TWOS FROM THE FACILITY STUDY, PERHAPS EVEN DEMOGRAPHIC STUDY INFORMATION, ANYTHING THAT IS PRESENTED, THE COMMITTEE IS GIVEN COPIES OF THAT INFORMATION.

SO THEY HAVE THE DATA AT THEIR FINGERTIPS.

AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING MISSING, WE HAPPILY PROVIDE THAT.

SO THEY WON'T BE GETTING THIS BOOK, THE ENTIRE BOOK FOR EACH PERSON.

YEAH, I WOULD SAY YES, BUT THE ENTIRE BOOK, I WOULD DOUBT THAT.

BUT ABSOLUTELY THE SUMMARIES.

I'M GOING TO TAKE A STAB AT THIS AND SEE IF THIS MAKES YOU HAPPY AND IF IT MAKES LARRY A LITTLE BIT MORE HAPPY.

THE OBJECTIVE OF THE GARLAND ISD BOND PLANNING COMMITTEE IS TO DEVELOP A FACILITY REFERENDUM RECOMMENDATION THAT IS FISCALLY SOUND FOR PRESENTATION TO THE GISD BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND ULTIMATELY THE GISD COMMUNITY.

IT DOESN'T PUT ANY CONSTRAINTS ON THE COMMITTEE, BUT IT DOES SAY THAT WE EXPECT IT TO BE FISCALLY SOUND.

SPEAK, MILLER DON'T JUST GIVE ME THAT SMIRK.

I THINK AS A PART OF THE NATURAL PROCESS, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

I JUST KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE THAT I APPOINTED TO THE COMMITTEE ARE PHYSICALLY SOUND.

SO IT AIN'T GOING TO GO THAT WAY.

NOT YOU.

I JUST DON'T SEE THAT I MADE CERTAIN RECOMMENDATIONS.

BUT YOU'RE NOT. YOU'RE ONLY ONE OF THE.

I UNDERSTAND. I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR WHO I RECOMMEND.

MS. GRIFFIN. I HOPE.

I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE A STAB AT THE CHARGE.

I HOPE THAT WHATEVER THE COMMITTEE ENDS UP WITH THAT WE AS A BOARD

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SO WHEN WE ARE DEVELOPING THAT CHARGE, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT.

THAT WE DO NOT TAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND SAY, OH, LET'S TWEAK IT A LITTLE BIT.

AND TWEAK IS ONE THING, MASSIVE CHANGE IS SOMETHING ELSE AND WE TEND TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TWEAKS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MASSIVE CHANGE.

SO HOWEVER WE ARE CONSTRUCTING THIS, JUST KNOW THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE GIVING UP THEIR TIME TO SERVE AND HELP US AND WE MUST LISTEN TO THEM AND NOT DO ANY MAJOR ALTERATIONS FROM WHAT THEY COME BACK AND RECOMMEND.

SO HOWEVER WE PUT THAT IN THE TRAINING, HOWEVER WE PUT THAT IN THE PRESENTATION TO ME, THAT'S WHAT I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT.

OKAY. ANYONE ELSE HAVE COMMENTS ON THIS OR RECOMMENDED LANGUAGE FOR A CHARGE? OKAY. SO WE STILL HAVEN'T REALLY I DON'T REALLY SEE THAT WE HAVE CONSENSUS.

MICHELLE, IS THIS AN ACTION ITEM SPECIFICALLY SO.

OKAY. SO JUST REMEMBER, WHEN YOU MAKE A MOTION, YOU HAVE TO READ THE ENTIRE LANGUAGE OF WHAT YOU'RE EXPECTING TO MOVE.

SO IF THERE IS A MOTION FOR A CHARGE THAT WE WISH TO CHARGE THE THE GARLAND ISD BOND PLANNING COMMITTEE WITH, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO MAKE SAID MOTION.

I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE CHARGE EXAMPLE C, AS WRITTEN ON THE SCREEN.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR CHARGE EXAMPLE C WHICH I WILL NOW READ FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE RECORD.

THE OBJECTIVE OF THE GARLAND ISD BOND PLANNING COMMITTEE IS TO DEVELOP A FACILITY REFERENDUM RECOMMENDATION FOR PRESENTATION TO THE GISD'S BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND ULTIMATELY THE GISD COMMUNITY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THAT LANGUAGE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

POINT OF CLARITY. OK WE HAVE A POINT OF ORDER.

SO THIS IS THE CHARGE.

WHAT'S THE LANGUAGE FOR HOW THE OTHER INFORMATION IS GOING TO BE SHARED? IT'S BEEN EXPLAINED THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE GIVEN TO THEM IN A PRESENTATION AND A POWERPOINT WHICH WILL BE DISTRIBUTED.

BUT HOW IS THAT LANGUAGE GOING TO READ? THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE THAT LANGUAGE VERBATIM NOW, BUT HE SAYS HE'S GOING TO REWORD THOSE PRIORITIES THAT ARE ON THAT SHEET INTO A PRESENTATION.

OKAY. OKAY.

WE STILL HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON WHAT I'VE READ.

I'M NOT GOING TO READ IT AGAIN.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT LANGUAGE.

RAISE YOUR HAND. WE ONLY HAVE THREE VOTES FOR THAT LANGUAGE, DOES NOT PASS.

DO WE HAVE ANOTHER MOTION OR AN AMENDMENT TO THE EXISTING MOTION? MR. PRESIDENT, WOULD YOU READ THE WHERE WHERE YOU INSERTED FISCALLY SOUND IN THE DOCUMENT AND SEE THE LANGUAGE THAT I SUGGESTED IS WE WOULD INSERT THAT AS FISCALLY SOUND BEHIND THE WORD RECOMMENDATION.

SO IT WOULD READ. THE OBJECTIVE OF THE GARLAND ISD BOND PLANNING COMMITTEE IS TO DEVELOP A FACILITY REFERENDUM RECOMMENDATION THAT IS FISCALLY SOUND FOR A PRESENTATION TO THE GISD'S BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND ULTIMATELY THE GUILD COMMUNITY.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION EXACTLY AS THE PRESIDENT JUST READ IT.

THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT. SO THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE LANGUAGE AS READ BY ME AND MOTION AND MOVED BY MR. GLICK. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

THAT PASSES FOUR IT HAS FOUR VOTES.

ANY OPPOSED TO THAT LANGUAGE? TWO OPPOSED ONE ABSTENTIONS.

SO THAT PASSES 4 TO 1.

WE HAVE A CHARGE FOR THE COMMITTEE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

DID YOU GET THE CHARGE MICHELLE? [INAUDIBLE]

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JOHNNY BEACH VOTE NO.

OKAY. NEXT ON THE LIST, ALTHOUGH WE DID GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AND WE DISCUSSED THE COMMITTEE CHARGE, WE NEED TO KIND OF ESTABLISH THE COMMITTEE ITSELF.

SO I GUESS WE'RE TO ACTION ITEM C, IS THAT CORRECT? OR A, A CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING FORMATION SO OBVIOUSLY WE ARE FORMING A COMMITTEE WITH AN EYE ON A POTENTIAL BOND ELECTION.

[IV. A. Consideration and Possible Action Regarding the Formation of a May 2023 Citizen Bond Committee or November 2023 Citizen Bond Committee -]

ONE WILL BE THE ELECTION THAT WILL OCCUR IN MAY OF 2023 AND THE OTHER WOULD BE IN THE ELECTION THAT WILL OCCUR IN NOVEMBER OF 2023.

DR. LOPEZ, I BELIEVE THIS IS YOUR DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER.

WE HAVE TWO SECTIONS ON VOTING FOR REFERENDUM.

ONE IS IN MAY AND ONE IS IN NOVEMBER, BOTH IN THE YEAR 2023 THAT ADMINISTRATION IS PROPOSING.

EACH OF THESE REFERENDUMS HAVE PLUSES AND MINUSES ON HOW AND WHEN WE SHOULD VOTE FOR THEM.

IF WE LOOK AT THE MAY, WHAT MAY ALLOWS US TO DO IS TO START ON PROJECTS AS SOON AS IT'S VOTED ON.

SO THERE'S GOING TO BE LOW HANGING FRUIT.

IF YOU KNOW ABOUT FACILITIES AND CONSTRUCTION, THE PERFECT TIME TO GET TO SCHOOLS IS IN THE SUMMER.

THIS WILL ALLOW US NOT TO DO THE MAJOR RENOVATION PROJECTS BUT START WITH LOWER END PROJECTS.

IT WOULD ALSO ALLOW US TO DO SOME OF THE THINGS IN OFF SEASON ATHLETICS THAT NEED IMMEDIATE ATTENTION.

THE OTHER THING ABOUT HAVING A MAY ELECTION IS THAT IT ALLOWS US TO AVOID ANY LEGISLATION THAT COMES OUT DURING THIS NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

TRADITIONALLY, LEGISLATIVE AGENDAS COME OUT WITH OUR WITH, I GUESS DIFFERENTIATING VIEWS OF HOW TO DEAL WITH BONDS AND TRES HERE.

WE'RE STILL STRICTLY WORRIED ABOUT THE BONDS, AND WE WOULD PREFER A MAY 2023 ELECTION.

IF WE GO TO NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER, WE'LL BE ON THE GENERAL CYCLE IN NOVEMBER.

THERE'S NOTHING MAJOR HAPPENING IN 2023 EXCEPT A FEW ELECTIONS HERE AND THERE AND AND SOME REFERENDUMS THAT WE THINK WILL HAVE TO BE PASSED.

IT DOES GIVE US A LITTLE MORE LEAD TIME, BUT BY THE TIME WE GET TO IT AND WE HAVE TO START PROJECTS, WE PROBABLY HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL MAY OF 2024 TO START GETTING THEM DONE IN THE SUMMER. SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION ON THESE TWO DATES, IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

MS. GRIFFIN. YES, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM OUR CONSULTANT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT'S WHY WE WHAT'S THEIR FEELING OR IF WE'VE ALREADY GONE OUT WITH THE CONSULTANTS, WHAT WE HEARD WAS THE ADMINISTRATION VIEWS.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THERE'S SOME OTHER PROS AND CONS THAT HAS BEEN EXPERIENCED IN THE METROPLEX BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR AREA IN VOTING AND THE VOTER TURNOUT.

YEAH, I THINK SPECIFICALLY SHE'S ASKING FOR GREG'S OPINION WITH RESPECT HE'S HERE. HE'S HERE.

SO FAR AS THE TIMING VERSUS MAY OR NOVEMBER? I BELIEVE THAT'S THE QUESTION ON THE TABLE, CORRECT? YES. YES, YES.

YOU CAN TALK FROM YOUR EXPERIENCES THEN WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN? IS THAT THAT'S A BETTER WAY TO ANSWER.

ASK IT. I'VE SEEN THEM GO AT BOTH TIMES, TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU.

THE MOST RECENT ONE THAT I WORKED ON WAS A MAY ELECTION, AND BECAUSE IT WASN'T NECESSARILY COMPETING WITH OTHER ELECTIONS, IT RECEIVED THE ATTENTION, I THINK, OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITY THAT IT DESERVED, TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU.

AND IT PASSED AT A VERY HIGH RATE, HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS ONES THAT I BELIEVE THEY HAD HELD IN NOVEMBER AT TIMES, BECAUSE THAT CAN GET LOST IN OTHER ELECTION CONSIDERATIONS, TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU.

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NOW, AS FAR AS TIMING IS CONCERNED, THE TIMING SO FAR AS DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION GOING OUT FOR BIDS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS CAN CERTAINLY AFFECT IF YOU'RE TRYING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF STUDENTS, PARTICULARLY IN THE AREA OF OVERCROWDING AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

IT CERTAINLY DELAYS IT.

AND IN DELAYING, AS WE ALL KNOW, THERE CAN BE CERTAIN CONSIDERATIONS FOR INFLATION TO BE BUILT IN, IN THOSE KINDS OF THINGS FOR ESCALATING COSTS.

AND SO I DO THINK THAT THOSE HAVE TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

NOW THE QUESTION FROM US AS A BODY, SO SHOULD WE BE THINKING ABOUT OUR LOCAL ELECTIONS ARE HELD IN MAY OR SHOULD WE NOT? IS THAT A CONSIDERATION? AND THOSE OF YOU WHO SHAKE YOUR HEAD NO [INAUDIBLE] WE TALK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT OFF LINE A COUPLE OF TIMES SEVERAL TIMES.

SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP PUBLICLY.

I WOULD SAY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, YEAH, I THINK YOU CONSIDER IT FOR SURE.

I MEAN, I'M NOT UP.

WE HAVE CITY COUNCILMAN THAT ARE UP.

WE HAVE SOME TRUSTEES THAT ARE UP.

AND OUR BOND ELECTION MIGHT BE THE LOUDEST THING THAT GOES ON IN THAT ELECTION CYCLE.

PROBABLY WILL BE.

SO WHAT WE DO IS GOING TO HAVE AN EFFECT ON INDIVIDUAL PEOPLES RACES THAT ARE IN THIS ROOM.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE EFFECT ON THE CITY ELECTION AND MULTIPLE.

NOW WE JUST HAVE TO WEIGH THE IF THE NEEDS OF THE DISTRICT OUTWEIGH THAT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THEN WE GO WITH THAT.

I WILL SAY THIS.

I THINK THAT I'M MORE INTERESTED IN WHAT DR.

LOPEZ IS SAYING ABOUT GETTING OUT IN FRONT OF THE PROJECTS AND GETTING INTO THE SCHOOLS THIS SUMMER OR NEXT SUMMER WITH SOME OF THESE THINGS.

THAT, TO ME, IS THE BIG DRIVING CONSIDERATION FOR MY PERSPECTIVE.

I AM NOT OVERWHELMINGLY CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING LOST IN A NOVEMBER ELECTION BECAUSE THIS IF THERE'S EVER GOING TO BE A NOVEMBER ELECTION, YOU WANT TO PUT IT ON.

IT'S GOING TO BE THE ONE THAT'S COMING UP NEXT YEAR.

AND THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH GOING ON IN THAT CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT ELECTION.

IT'S VERY SMALL, VERY, VERY LOW TURNOUT GENERALLY.

THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A TURNOUT IN THAT ELECTION IS IF WE PUT OUR BOND THERE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

SO THAT DOESN'T WORRY ME.

THE LEGISLATIVE ISSUE IS A BIT OF A CONCERN FOR ME BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE CAN DO SOMETHING IN THE SPRING'S LEGISLATIVE SESSION THAT WOULD AFFECT WHAT TYPE OF BOND WE COULD PASS, BECAUSE IF WE DO IT IN MAY, THE LEGISLATION, NO LEGISLATION WILL BE SET YET BECAUSE THEY DON'T EVEN REALLY START TO MAKE THOSE VOTES UNTIL THE LAST TWO WEEKS OF MAY.

AND EVEN THEN, THE STATUTES WOULDN'T GO INTO PLACE UNTIL SEPTEMBER.

SO WE'RE PLAYING UNDER THE RULE BOOK THAT WE KNOW IN MAY.

AND SO THAT'S A PRETTY VALID CONSIDERATION.

BUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS, IN MY OPINION, ARE FACTORS.

AND IF ANY ONE OF THEM IS MORE OF A FACTOR FOR SOMEONE ELSE, I THINK THAT'S LEGITIMATE AND WE SHOULD ACCEPT IT.

THERE'S NO WRONG VOTE ON THAT.

PLEASE. DR.

LOPEZ, YOU HAVE STATED VERY CLEARLY YOUR PROS AND CONS, AND I GUESS YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND YOUR TEAM.

WHAT IS OUR BANDWIDTH WITH LEARNING LOSS, WITH SHORTAGE WITH THIS WITH THAT? I CAN ONLY REFLECT ON WHAT HAPPENED WHEN WE TRIED TO DO ANOTHER ELECTION AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE BANDWIDTH OF DO WE HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR SUCCESS WITH THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO PULL THIS OFF? WE TEND TO HAVE A HIGH PRIORITY AND ALL HANDS ON DECK AND THEN WE RUN STEADY THE SHIP.

SO WHAT IS THE BANDWIDTH OF STAFF AND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED TO MAKE THIS A SUCCESSFUL ELECTION? BECAUSE THE BIG BANDWIDTH WHERE ANY TYPE OF BOND PROGRAM AND I JUST HAVE TO SAY SCHOOL DISTRICTS ACROSS THE STATE ARE HAVING BONDS ALL THE TIME AND THEY HAVE TO MAKE THE BALANCE WORK.

EVEN IN THE MIDST OF COVID, EVERYBODY'S EXPERIENCING LEARNING LOSS.

EVERYBODY'S EXPERIENCING WHAT WE'RE DOING TEACHER SHORTAGES, LEARNING LOSS, BUS DRIVER SHORTAGES.

NOW WE HAVE BACKLOG AND HELMETS.

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AND ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT OUR LEARNING LOSS IS WE WANT TO CAPITALIZE ON CREATING THE BEST LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS FOR KIDS.

AND PART OF THAT IS HAVING GREAT LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS.

THAT SEEMS TO DO A LOT.

IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THIS FACILITY, KIDS WANT TO LEARN.

AND WHEN YOU COME IN HERE, YOU WANT TO LEARN.

IT'S JUST A BEAUTIFUL FACILITY.

AND I THINK A DREAM OF MINE IS TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF FEELING AT ALL OF OUR CAMPUSES.

AND THE LONGER WE WAIT, THE HARDER IT IS FOR FOR NOT ONLY OUR TEACHERS AND STAFF, BUT THE STUDENTS COMING INTO A CONDUCIVE LEARNING ENVIRONMENT.

SO THERE ARE SACRIFICES THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE CHILDREN AND AND THE BOND PROGRAM IS ONE OF THEM.

WE'RE READY. DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ISSUE AMONGST THE BOARD? MS. STANLEY.

THE ONLY THING THAT CONCERNS ME AND BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GIVING THE PROPER TIME FOR THE PROPER ABSORPTION OF NOT ONLY THE BOND COMMITTEE, BUT ALSO OUR CONSTITUENTS.

SO I HAVE CONCERNS JUST THAT THIS IS A VERY SHORT TIME FRAME AND THIS IS A LOT OF STUFF THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO ONCE THAT PRESENTATION COMES TO US THAT WE THEN HAVE TO GET OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO TELL THEM WHAT THIS ENTAILS.

AND SO THAT TO ME IS THE ONLY THING THAT DRIVES ME.

THIS IS MY FIRST TIME BEING HERE FOR A BOND, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT I JUST KNOW THAT AS SOMEONE WHO'S SAT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MANY ENTITIES, THAT ONCE THAT BOND IS ADOPTED AND THEN THE COMMUNICATION OUT BEFORE YOU GO TO THE TO THE POLLS TO VOTE ON, IT ALWAYS SEEMS TO BE A BONE OF CONTENTION THAT IT'S JUST SO SHORT AND PEOPLE AREN'T ABLE TO THEY JUST ALWAYS FEEL LIKE IT WAS DROPPED ON THEM.

SO THAT IS MY CONCERN AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A CONCERN THOUGH, EVEN FOR A NOVEMBER ELECTION, BECAUSE AGAIN, IT COMES DOWN TO ONCE WE MAKE THAT DECISION, HOW DO WE ROLL OUT THAT TO THE TO THE TO THE BASE THAT HAVE TO VOTE ON IT? SO TWO THINGS FOR CLARITY.

REGARDLESS OF WE VOTE TODAY FOR EITHER A MAY OR NOVEMBER BOND DOESN'T DOESN'T HOLD US TO THAT.

IT'S JUST A GOAL.

THE OFFICIAL BOND PROCLAMATION WOULD HAVE TO COME IN FEBRUARY, WHERE YOU SAY THIS IS OUR REFERENDUM, THAT WE ARE OFFICIALLY GOING OUT AT THIS DATE AND TIME.

RIGHT. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE TWO VOTES JUST FOR CLARITY, THIS ONE JUST FOR DIRECTION, AND THEN THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE THE OFFICIAL ONE.

AND I BELIEVE THE FEBRUARY 10TH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS THE DATE.

I COULD BE WRONG, BUT IT'S IN FEBRUARY.

THEN FROM THERE, THAT'S WHEN YOU ROLL OUT YOUR ENTIRE PACKAGE FOR THE BOND.

RIGHT. AND WHAT LIMITS SCHOOL DISTRICTS IS WHENEVER YOU GO FOR A BOND, YOU CAN'T SAY VOTE FOR THIS.

THAT'S ILLEGAL.

EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE PROMOTING.

ALL YOU CAN DO IS PROMOTE. THIS IS WHAT THE BOND DOES AND JUST PROMOTE FACTS.

A SEPARATE AGENCY, A PAC CAN DO ALL THAT, BUT WE CAN'T.

SO EVEN AS WE ROLL IT OUT, IT'S GOING.

BUT WHAT WE HAVE WHAT HAVE WE HEARD CONSTANTLY FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS? THE HVAC GOING OUT ALL THE TIME, RIGHT? THE FACT THAT OUR FACILITIES ARE NOT COMPARABLE TO OTHER DISTRICTS.

THE FACT THAT WHEN WHENEVER WE HAVE INCLEMENT WEATHER, WE'RE THE ONLY SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT CAN'T PRACTICE, WHEN EVERYBODY ELSE CAN PRACTICE.

THE FACT THAT OUR ARTS FACILITIES AREN'T ON PAR.

THAT WE DON'T HAVE 21ST CENTURY LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS, LIKE ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE ON THERE, WE HEAR FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS EACH AND EVERY DAY.

THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE PEOPLE, LET'S SAY, WHERE DID THIS BOND COME FROM? MOST OF THEM DON'T HAVE CHILDREN IN OUR SCHOOLS.

MOST OF THEM AREN'T CONNECTED TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

AND TO ROLL IT OUT TO THAT SCALE AND JUST WAIT FOR EVERYBODY KNOWS IS A VERY DIFFICULT PROCESS BEFORE YOU ROLL ANYTHING OUT.

AND THAT'S WHY SOME PEOPLE FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST DROPPED ON THEM BECAUSE IT'S FEBRUARY THAT YOU OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCE IT AND THEN THEY HAVE TO VOTE ON IT IN MAY AND YOU JUST GOT THAT SHORT WINDOW TO GO THROUGH.

IF WE DID IT IN NOVEMBER, THE OFFICIAL VOTE WOULD HAPPEN IN AUGUST AND THEN IT WOULD BE IN.

YEAH. THE COMMENT BOARD, MR.

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WHILE IT WON'T BE THE SAME FISCAL YEAR, YOU WOULD HAVE THEN REQUIRED A SECOND ELECTION IN THAT SAME FISCAL YEAR THE FOLLOWING MAY.

SO IF YOU PUT A BOND ON THIS MAZE OF THIS MAY'S BALLOT, IT WILL FALL UNDER THIS FISCAL YEAR'S BUDGET.

YOU WILL PAY FOR TWO ELECTIONS AT ONE TIME FOR ONE COST.

IF YOU PUT IT ON NOVEMBER OF 2023, YOU WILL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THE FACT THAT YOU WILL PAY FOR A NOVEMBER ELECTION, WHICH WE POTENTIALLY MAY BE ON THE BALLOT ALONE.

YOU WON'T HAVE MANY OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS UNLESS THEY ALL ARE GOING OUT FOR BOND THE SAME TIME.

SO YOU WOULD ABSORB THE MAJORITY OF THOSE COSTS AS AN ENTITY ON YOUR OWN, IN ADDITION TO WHATEVER COUNTY OR CITY ELECTIONS THAT MAY BE GOING ON AT THAT TIME, THAT POTENTIALLY CAN BE UPWARDS FROM $300,000 TO $400,000 FOR US TO HAVE A SINGULAR REFERENDUM WITH MULTIPLE BALLOT OPTIONS, OF COURSE, ON A BALLOT, AND THEN WE HAVE TO GO WITHIN THE SAME FISCAL YEAR FOR THE MAY 2024 ELECTION OF HAVING OUR GENERAL PLACE SIX AND SEVEN ELECTIONS AT THAT TIME.

SO YOU WOULD HAVE TWO ELECTIONS IN 23-24, AND ONE SHOULD YOU DO IT THIS FISCAL YEAR IN 2 2-23.

IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN BREAK THAT DOWN.

TYPICALLY, OUR ELECTIONS RUN BEFORE THE INCREASE IN COST.

THEY WERE $70,000.

AFTER THE INCREASE IN COSTS TWO YEARS AGO, THEY INCREASED TO ABOUT $200-$400,000 FOR A SINGULAR DISTRICT ELECTION.

EFFECTIVELY, DALLAS COUNTY ELECTIONS DIVIDES UP THE COST OF THE ELECTION, PAYING THE ELECTION OFFICIALS AMONGST ALL THE ENTITIES THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE ELECTION.

CORRECT. THE MORE PARTICIPANTS, THE LOWER YOUR COST, THE FEWER PARTICIPANTS, THE MORE YOUR COST.

SO IF YOU CHOOSE TO SEPARATE THIS ISSUE OUT, AND I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE A PREVAILING FACTOR, I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE TO VOTE ON THE ELECTION CONTRACT FOR THE BOND AND IT WILL BE MORE THAN $175,000, I CAN GUARANTEE YOU, SHOULD WE CHOOSE TO DO IT IN NOVEMBER.

BECAUSE THERE ARE VERY FEW PARTICIPANTS LOCALLY WHO GO OUT FOR NOVEMBER ELECTIONS ON ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR BONDS OR TAX REFERENDUMS OR SPECIAL.

CORRECT IN THAT WE ONLY FOCUS ON DALLAS.

I DON'T DEAL WITH ANYTHING OTHER THAN DALLAS COUNTY.

SO ONLY DALLAS COUNTY IS OF RELEVANCE AS IT RELATES TO THESE ELECTIONS.

SO ANYWHERE FROM $175 OR ABOVE AND THAT'S THE LOW END, $175 IS I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A $175 MAY ELECTION JUST TO PUT THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE IT'S NEVER THAT LOW ANYMORE.

FOOD FOR THOUGHT. ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANY BOARD MEMBER? SEEING NONE. IS THERE A MOTION TO FORM A BOND STUDY COMMITTEE FOR EITHER A MAY 2023 POTENTIAL BOND ELECTION OR IN NOVEMBER 2023 POTENTIAL BOND ELECTION? POINT OF CLARITY.

ARE WE VOTING ON THE COMMITTEE OR ARE WE VOTING ON THE BOND DATE? [INAUDIBLE].

IT'S TWO SEPARATE ITEMS. THE MOTION THAT I WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO MAKE RIGHT NOW BE TO VOTE ON THE FORMATION OF A MAY AND OR A NOVEMBER, SO THE FORMATION OF A COMMITTEE.

SO THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT WE NEED TO GIVE DR.

LOPEZ AND THE ADMINISTRATION IS TO PICK, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO FORM A MAY 2023, WHICH WOULD GIVE US A GOOD IDEA OF THE TIMELINE SO THAT WE CAN COME BACK PRIOR TO FEBRUARY 17TH AND CALL AN OFFICIAL MAY BOND ELECTION OR TO PROCEED WITH CREATING A NOVEMBER 2023 COMMITTEE.

AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO, AT THAT TIME, COME BACK IN AUGUST OF 2023 TO CALL THE OFFICIAL ELECTION FOR NOVEMBER.

FEBRUARY 17TH.

YOU SAID. FEBRUARY 17TH IS THE FRIDAY CORRECT? IT'S THE LAST DAY TO PUT ANYTHING ON THE DALLAS COUNTY ELECTIONS BALLOT.

I WAS A WEEK OFF. WOW.

SO SPECIFICALLY, MS. GRIFFIN, WE ARE VOTING ON THE FORMATION OF A COMMITTEE FOR TO EXPLORE FOR A POTENTIAL MAY ELECTION OR A POTENTIAL NOVEMBER ELECTION.

BUT WE'RE NOT DECIDING THE ELECTION YET, BECAUSE WE CAN'T.

ALSO, IF WE'RE FORMING A COMMITTEE TO STUDY IN MAY, THEN WE'RE BASICALLY MAKING A DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD IN MAY.

BUT WE CAN FIX IT.

LIKE DR. LOPEZ SAYS, IF WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE TIME AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN FEBRUARY, WE JUST DON'T MAKE THAT VOTE.

BUT OKAY DO WE HAVE A MOTION, MR. MILLER? MR. JOHNSON IN RECOGNITION OF WHAT I THINK IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE GARLAND INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PROCEED WITH THE ORGANIZATION OF A COMMITTEE FOR THE MAY 2023 ELECTION.

SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE ORGANIZATION AND FORMATION OF A COMMITTEE A CITIZEN BOND COMMITTEE FOR THE MAY 2023 ELECTION.

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CAN WE TAKE A? DID YOU HAVE? WE ARE SAYING ONE THING, AND THEN THE MOTION CAME OUT SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

SO I WANTED TO MAKE AN AMEND.

WE SAID, FORM A BOND COMMITTEE FOR MAY OR NOVEMBER ELECTIONS SO THAT IF WE GOT DOWN THE ROAD AND WE HAD TO SWITCH, WE ALREADY HAD THE COMMITTEE IN PLACE.

SO I WAS TRYING TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT, BUT I WASN'T QUICK ENOUGH.

WHEN YOU SAY MAY OR NOVEMBER, IT'S AN EITHER IT'S AN OR.

I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO PICK ONE OF THE TWO.

LIKE WE STILL HAVEN'T DECIDED NECESSARY TO HAVE A BOND IN MAY OF 2023.

OKAY, LET'S GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN.

MR. MILLER HAS MADE A MOTION.

THERE IS A SECOND REGARDING THE FORMATION OF A MAY 2023 CITIZENS BOND COMMITTEE.

IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF THE FORMATION OF THAT COMMITTEE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND? THAT PASSES SEVEN ZERO.

NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ACTION ITEM 4C, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING APPOINTING MEMBERS TO THE CITIZEN BOND COMMITTEE.

[IV. C. Consideration and Possible Action Regarding Appointing Members to the Citizen Bond Committee]

OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE MEMBERS THAT ARE APPOINTED BY BOARD AND WE HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE RECOMMENDATIONS ON PAGE TWO.

FOR PURPOSE OF THE MEETING TODAY I WANT TO TAKE ACTION ON WHICH IS MORE OR LESS A FORMALITY ON THE PAGE ONE ITEM, WHICH IS THE BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS. AND I WANT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO STUDY THE ADMINISTRATIVE RECOMMENDATIONS UNTIL IT WAS PROVIDED TO US YESTERDAY FOR THE FIRST TIME.

I WANT EACH BOARD MEMBER TO EVALUATE, REVIEW AND PROVIDE TO MS. HOGAN YOUR 10 PEOPLE ON THIS LIST OF ADMINISTRATION RECOMMENDATIONS YOU WANT TO SEE ADDED TO THE COMMITTEE.

SO THE ADMINISTRATOR RECOMMENDATIONS WE MAKE, WE WILL SAY, PICK THE TEN PEOPLE YOU WANT.

WHAT I DO NOT AND I WILL NOT ALLOW IS FOR US TO DISCUSS ALL THESE PEOPLE HERE IN THIS FORUM IN OPEN, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE ON THIS LIST THAN WE CAN HAVE ON THIS COMMITTEE. WE WOULD HAVE A MASSIVE COMMITTEE, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME SELECTIONS, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT IN A PUBLIC FORUM BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL GOOD CITIZENS AND I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO FEEL LIKE WE'RE PRIORITIZING ONE OR THE OTHER.

BUT I DO WANT EACH BOARD MEMBER TO MAKE THEIR SELECTION WITHOUT OBVIOUSLY ANY DISCUSSION AMONGST EACH OTHER.

WE'RE NOT DOING ANY OF THAT, BUT SEND IT IN TO MS. HOGAN, AND THAT WILL PROVIDE US WITH A FORUM WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT AND HAVE A SLATE OF ONES THAT MULTIPLE TRUSTEES HAVE DEEMED APPROPRIATE.

AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND THEN VOTE THAT SLATE UP AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.

SO THAT WILL COMPLETE OUR COMMITTEE, BUT WE CAN HANDLE THE FIRST PART OF IT NOW.

MS. STANLEY.

I'M 100% WITH WHAT YOU SAY, BUT I DID HAVE I DO BELIEVE THERE'S SOME OMISSIONS.

IT SHOULD BE ON THIS LIST AND WE CAN TAKE IT UP ANY WAY YOU WANT.

AND SO THAT WAS MY ONLY THING.

WELL, YOU INCLUDE THAT WITH RESPECT TO THE EMAIL THAT YOU HAVE, IF THERE'S PEOPLE THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE HAD EFFECTIVELY A MONTH TO PUT FORTH NAMES.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PUTTING FORTH NAMES.

OKAY. IT IS THE FACT THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THERE'S AN INDIVIDUAL ON HERE THAT WAS ON THE BOND LAST TIME THAT I WOULD HAVE AN EXPECTATION WOULD BE ON THIS LIST SINCE THE OTHER PEOPLE FROM THE BOND WERE ON HERE.

THINGS LIKE THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH MY NAMES.

I'VE COME UP AND I HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP TO DR.

LOPEZ SEVERAL TIMES.

SO IT IS NOT SOMETHING NEW.

THIS IS NOT A NEW THING.

THIS LIST ALSO IS MISSING ONE, I THINK ONE OR TWO NAMES.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATED LIST WITH THE BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE FIRST PAGE.

OKAY. SO WHAT ARE THE NAMES? WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT ANY NAMES.

OKAY. NO NAMES. MR. JOHNSON, JUST A QUICK POINT OF CLARITY.

WHAT FROM WHOM WILL THESE EXTRA NAMES COME FROM? ASIDE FROM THE TEN THAT WILL BE SELECTED FROM THIS LIST, ARE THEY ALLOWED ARE TRUSTEES THEN ALLOWED TO GO BEYOND THE 10 SELECTIONS AND ADD THESE EXTRA PEOPLE? NO. ANY IF YOU FEEL AS THOUGH THERE IS SOMEBODY WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THIS SECOND PAGE LIST THAT ISN'T, YOU EMAIL THAT

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LOPEZ.

WE GET NO MORE AUTOMATIC PASSES ONTO THIS COMMITTEE.

SO THAT'S DONE.

YOU HAD YOUR LIST? WE TURNED IN OUR NAMES.

THAT'S AS MUCH.

IF, FOR WHATEVER REASON, ADMINISTRATION DOES NOT FORWARD IT OR INCLUDE THEM ON THE LIST, THEN THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TAKE UP AT THAT POINT.

SO WE WILL MAKE WE WILL GO THROUGH AND PUT OUR TEN NAMES.

AND THAT GOES TO MS. HOGAN, NOT TO DR.

LOPEZ. MR. BEACH. JUST QUICKLY CLARIFICATION FOR ME.

THERE'S NAMES ON HERE WITH ALREADY YESES BESIDE THEM.

ARE THOSE FOLKS GOING TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE AND ARE WE VOTING FROM THE NO'S OR THE YES AND NO'S.

NO, SIR. THOSE PEOPLE WERE CONTACTED AND COMMITTED FROM YOUR CONTACT OR ADMINISTRATION'S CONTACT THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO SERVE.

THAT'S ALL THAT SAYS.

THEY'RE STILL ON THE ADMINISTRATION LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS.

ANYBODY ON THIS LIST OF THESE PEOPLE CAN BE SUBMITTED? YES, SIR. ANYBODY? YEAH. ANYBODY FROM THIS LIST? YES. ANYBODY? ANYBODY ON PAGE TWO, YOU CAN PUT IN YOUR PART OF YOUR TEN NAMES.

THERE WILL BE APPARENTLY SOME OTHER NAMES ADDED.

AND IF YOU FEEL LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THERE IS A NAME YOU WANT ADDED, YOU CAN ARGUE FOR THAT WITH ADMINISTRATION AND MAYBE THEY'LL ADD THAT NAME.

I DON'T KNOW. BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE UP TO THEM.

BUT SO WE WILL BE LOOKING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS FOR AN UPDATE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO TURN IN YOUR TEN NAMES UNTIL LET'S GO WITH THE TUESDAY BEFORE THE BOARD MEETING, ONE WEEK BEFORE THE BOARD MEETING. DOES THAT WORK FOR MS. HOGAN? BEFORE THE BOARD MEETING, MR. GLICK. I WANT TO SEE IF I UNDERSTAND.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO GET TEN NAMES OFF THIS LIST OF RIGHT NOW 54 NAMES, AND WE'RE GOING TO SUBMIT THOSE TEN EACH, EACH ONE WILL GIVE YOU TEN NAMES? WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO EACH OF OUR TEN LISTS OF TEN THEN? ARE YOU GOING TO MATCH THEM AND LOOK FOR SIMILARITIES, CONCURRENCES? SO POTENTIALLY WE COULD THE SEVEN OF US COULD LITERALLY PICK EVERYBODY ON THIS LIST RIGHT ? POTENTIALLY. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PARE THAT DOWN, BUT WE'RE GOING TO SEE IF WE CAN NATURALLY PAIR IT DOWN THIS WAY.

GOOD. THANK YOU.

YOU NEED THIS BY WHEN? A WEEK FROM TODAY. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE IT FIRM.

PLEASE PROVIDE ME WITH YOUR TEN NAMES NO LATER THAN 4:00 P.M.

TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 20TH, VIA EMAIL.

YOU WILL TYPE YOUR OWN LIST.

YOU WILL EMAIL ME THAT LIST.

I WILL CREATE A MASTER LIST BASED OFF THE TEN EACH OF YOU SUBMIT.

I MAY HAVE UP TO 70 NAMES OR DUPLICATES OF 70 VERSIONS OF NAMES.

EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? ALL RIGHT. I DON'T REALLY THINK WE NEED TO VOTE ON THE FIRST PAGE BECAUSE WE CAN JUST DO IT AT ONCE.

THE FIRST PAGE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE IN.

THE SECOND PAGE PEOPLE WE NEED TO IDENTIFY AND ISOLATE.

AND, MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE TOLD DR.

LOPEZ I WILL HAVE ALL THE MISSING INFORMATION I JUST GOT BACK IN TOWN.

HE'LL HAVE THAT BY TOMORROW NIGHT.

THAT'S FINE. ALL RIGHT.

IF THAT'S THE CASE, DR.

[V. Executive Session]

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THIS MEETING TO CLOSED THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL BE HELD FOR PURPOSES PERMITTED BY TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.001.

SPECIFICALLY, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION REGARDING PROJECTED ENROLLMENT, WHICH WILL BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.074, WHICH IS DELIBERATION REGARDING EMPLOYMENT, EMPLOYMENT EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT DUTIES OR DISCIPLINE, DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICER, EMPLOYEE, OR TO HEAR A COMPLAINT OR CHARGE AGAINST AN OFFICER EMPLOYEE.

AGAIN, THE SPECIFIC DISCUSSION WILL BE REGARDING PROJECTED ENROLLMENT.

IT IS 2:31 AND WE ARE IN CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IT IS 3:25 P.M.

AND WE ARE RETURNING FROM CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[VI. Reconvene from Executive Session]

SEEING THAT THERE IS NO OTHER, THERE IS NO ACTION ITEM FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THERE'S NO OTHER AGENDA ITEMS.

[VII. Adjournment]