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[I. Call to Order and Determination of a Quorum]
THERE IS A QUORUM PRESENT.THE SECOND AGENDA ITEM IS PUBLIC FORUM IS HOGAN.
DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS? WE HAVE NO CARDS.
[III.A. Discuss the Garland ISD Citizen Bond Steering Committee Recommendation - Dr. Brent Ringo, Mr. Paul Gonzales, Mr. Javier Fernandez]
DR. BRANT RENKO.MR. JOHNSON, BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
AND SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO RICH AUBIN.
HE'S A FORMER GARLAND CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.
THE OTHER CO CHAIR IS BRIAN ROBINSON.
HE'S A 40 YEAR RESIDENT OF GARLAND, A GISD ALUM, SOUTH GARLAND HIGH SCHOOL.
PARENT OF TWO GISD ALUMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN COLLEGE ALSO.
AND SO WITH THAT, I'M WALKING THEM UP TO THE PODIUM.
YAY! GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
BUT TO ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR INPUT AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU.
AND THANKS ALSO TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE ON ON BEHALF OF ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BOND COMMITTEE WHO DID A LOT OF REALLY GREAT WORK. AND SO WE'RE VERY THANKFUL TO THEM AS WELL.
WE'RE GOING TO SPLIT THE PRESENTATION.
BUT AT ANY POINT, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE JUST PLEASE JUST JUMP IN AS KIND OF THE LAST THING IN MY BIO IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT IS THAT I HAVE FOUR DAUGHTERS ALL IN GARLAND SCHOOLS AND, YOU KNOW, FOR YEARS AND THEIR AGES, ONE IS GOING TO BE 11 NEXT WEEK AND THE OLDEST IS 15.
SO I HAVE ONE IN ELEMENTARY, TWO IN MIDDLE SCHOOL AND ONE IN HIGH SCHOOL.
AND AND I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, WAIT A LITTLE BIT TILL THEY'RE LIKE ALL TEENAGERS.
AND, YOU KNOW, COME MAY, I'LL HAVE THREE TEENAGE GIRLS.
SO IF YOU ALL WANT TO START THE PRAYING NOW, I THINK I'D BE ALL RIGHT WITH THAT.
BUT ANYWAY, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD BEEN THEY'VE BEEN IN GARLAND ISD FOR A LITTLE WHILE NOW.
THEY HAD STARTED OUT IN A HIGH PERFORMING CHARTER SCHOOL.
AND THEN AT REALLY ONE OF THE FIRST OPPORTUNITIES, I BROUGHT THEM OVER TO GARLAND ISD.
AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT A LOT OF THE REASON FOR THAT WAS WAS THE OPPORTUNITIES, THE DIVERSITY OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE DISTRICT PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY FROM AN EDUCATIONAL PERSPECTIVE TO CHOOSE YOUR CAMPUS AND CHOOSE THE FOCUS OF THAT CAMPUS, PARTICULARLY AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL, THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES. I HAVE TWO DAUGHTERS WHO THIS WEEK ARE GOING TO BE WHO ARE IN DRAMA, WHO WILL BE TRYING OUT FOR THEIR MIDDLE SCHOOL PLAY FOR THE ALICE IN WONDERLAND MUSICAL, WHICH I'M SURE IS GOING TO BE SPECTACULAR.
AND THAT'S A LOT OF THE INSPIRATION FOR WANTING TO BE INVOLVED HERE AND WANTING TO LOOK AT WHAT THE REALLY WHAT THE NEXT GENERATION IS OF THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT.
AND I'M BRIAN ROBINSON, LIKE YOU SAID, 40 YEAR RESIDENT.
WELL, THAT'S A BIG NUMBER THAT IT'S QUITE PRETTY MUCH TRUE, TO BE HONEST.
I'M ONE ONE SOMEONE RECENTLY ASKED ME, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF QUALIFIES YOU TO BE MAKING THIS PRESENTATION TO THE TO THE SCHOOL BOARD? AND I THOUGHT, WELL, I'M PROBABLY ABOUT THE QUINTESSENTIAL EXAMPLE BECAUSE I'M A PRODUCT OF GISD AND I'M A PARENT OF GISD.
SO I'VE HAD BOTH SIDES AND I'M A HOMEOWNER, I'M A TAXPAYER, SO I'M A CUSTOMER ALSO.
SO WHO ELSE WOULD BE MORE QUALIFIED? BUT LET ME JUST TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT MY STORY, BECAUSE I THINK IT IS SOMETHING A TESTIMONY TO THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE HERE IN GISD.
MY MOTHER MOVED ME HERE 39 YEARS AGO.
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GREAT EDUCATION, WELL PREPARED TO ATTEND TEXAS A&M AND MATRICULATE THROUGH WITH A DEGREE IN MECHANICAL ENGINEERING.FROM THERE I STARTED, I GUESS IT'S BEEN A LOT OF 20 SOMETHING YEAR CAREER IN THE WIRELESS INDUSTRY.
CURRENTLY, I'VE BEEN WORKING IN SYSTEM SUPPORT WITH APPLE, BUT MAINLY I WOULD SAY THE PREPARATION THAT I GOT IN GISD SET THE STAGE FOR MY SUCCESS. AND SO I WANT TO TALK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT HOW THAT IS SO IMPORTANT TO HELPING PEOPLE MAKE CHOICES TO COME TO THIS DISTRICT.
BUT WE HAD TWO CHILDREN AND WHEN IT CAME TIME FOR THEM TO GO TO SCHOOL, WE HAD A CHOICE AND WE LOOKED AT WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AT THAT TIME.
AND THEY HAVE A WONDERFUL SCHOOL DISTRICT.
AND HE WAS OFF THE CHART AND SHE TALKED TO US ABOUT THE GT PROGRAM HERE IN GARLAND.
AND FROM THAT, WE MADE THE CHOICE TO SELL OUR HOUSE IN GARLAND, IN FRISCO, AND MOVED TO GARLAND.
AND THROUGH THAT, I CAN TELL YOU THIS.
WE CHOSE LAKEVIEW CENTENNIAL COLLEGIATE ACADEMY, AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE SECOND BEST DECISION WE MADE BECAUSE THEY WERE ABLE TO TAKE THE DEGREES THAT THEY GOT FROM THAT ASSOCIATE DEGREE AND COMBINE THAT WITH CERTIFICATIONS THAT GOT HERE IN THIS BUILDING AT THE GRCTC, AND THEY ARE MILES ABOVE THEIR PEERS.
THOSE FIRST COUPLE KIDS, WE'RE NOT EVEN WORRIED ABOUT THEM.
THEY'RE IN OUR REARVIEW MIRROR.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SAY.
BECAUSE WHILE MY SON GRADUATED FULL RIDE TO COLLEGE, THE USDA IS PAYING FOR HIM RIGHT NOW.
HE'S GOING TO WORK FOR HE'S ACTUALLY LEAVING THIS MONTH TO GO WORK FOR CONGRESS.
MY DAUGHTER IS OUR ACADEMIC SUPERSTAR.
SHE GRADUATED IN 2021 WITH THE ASSOCIATE DEGREE AND OF COURSE, WITH THE CERTIFICATION FROM HERE.
AND SHE GOT A JOB AT UT SOUTHWESTERN ASSOCIATE DEGREE CERTIFICATION, $50,000 A YEAR.
SO WE WERE LIKE, SO THEY WERE SURPRISED WHEN SHE LEFT TO GO TO COLLEGE, THEY WERE REALLY SHOCKED.
WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT GETTING THE FACILITIES TO STEP UP TO MATCH THOSE PROGRAMS. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE COMMITTEE HAS BEEN CHARGED TO DO, TO GET OURSELVES TOGETHER SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO ATTRACT PEOPLE WITH CHOICES TO THIS DISTRICT.
AND SO YOU GUYS HAVE CALLED TOGETHER A GROUP OF CITIZENS FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE TO COME IN AND HAVE THEIR SAY, THEIR VOICE IN THE PROGRAM. AND WHEN DOING THAT, WE GOT ALL PEOPLE FROM ALL GAMUTS WE HAVE PARENTS, OF COURSE, MOST OF US WERE PARENTS OR EITHER GRANDPARENTS IN THE DISTRICT, BUT BUSINESS LEADERS LIKE KARINA AVALOS FROM THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, CIVIC LEADERS LIKE RICKY MACNEIL FROM THE NAACP, RETIREES LIKE MY OLD HIGH SCHOOL PRINCIPAL TOM POORE, WHICH WAS REALLY COOL TO SEE.
HE HAS THIS THING WHERE HE GIVES OUT PENCILS AND HE'S BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS AND YEARS.
AND WHEN HE SHOWED UP, WHEN I MET HIM, HE KNEW EXACTLY WHO I WAS.
I WAS SURPRISED. HE LOOKED AND HE LOOKED BASICALLY THE SAME.
MY MOTHER, WHEN I TOLD MY MOTHER ABOUT IT, HE SAID SHE SAID, DID HE GIVE YOU A PENCIL? I SAID HE SURE DID.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO RECONNECT A LOT OF PEOPLE I KNEW A LOT OF PEOPLE I DIDN'T KNOW.
AND BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU THINK ABOUT THOSE SIX DEGREES OF SEPARATION, MAYBE ONE OR TWO DEGREES OF SEPARATION WAS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE CONNECTING WITH INDIVIDUALS HERE, WE ALSO HAD COMMUNITY LEADERS LIKE JENNIFER NGUYEN ALUMNI LIKE DAVID SMITH, OF SOUTH GARLAND 1998, AND EDUCATORS LIKE PHIL GILBREATH, NAMESAKE OF THIS BUILDING, ALL PARTICIPATED IN THIS PROGRAM TO PRESENT TO YOU WHAT WE THINK IS THE BEST THING FOR THE DISTRICT GOING FORWARD,
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JUST TO GIVE EVERYONE THEIR 5 MINUTES OF FAME.I KNOW MANY OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE WATCHING RIGHT NOW.
SO WE'VE GOT ALL THEIR NAMES LISTED HERE.
WE HAD A TOTAL OF SIX MEETINGS.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE DETAILS, WHAT HAPPENED IN EACH ONE OF THEM.
BUT THIS TELLS US WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
SO THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING, THEY LET THEIR VOICES BE HEARD, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE AGREED TO.
SHOULD YOU GO FORWARD WITH THIS BOND? I WOULD SAY 90% OR MORE HAVE AGREED TO HELP PARTICIPATE IN SUPPORTING THE BOND THROUGH THE ELECTION PROCESS.
SO EXPECT THAT TO BE PART OF COUNT THAT INTO YOUR DECISION WHEN YOU'RE DOING IT.
OKAY. NOT ONLY DID WE HAVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BUT WE ALSO HAD STUDENTS.
AND WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE, WE WANT TO ALWAYS MAKE SURE THAT WE RECOGNIZE THEM.
AND AND I WAS TELLING THIS ABOUT TELLING MY CHILDREN ABOUT THIS.
AND ONE THING THAT THEY SAID, WE NEED SOME WINDOWS IN LAKEVIEW CENTENNIAL STUDENT INPUT.
SO AS WE GO FORWARD AND START THINKING ABOUT REDESIGNS, THINK ABOUT THAT.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING I GOT FROM STUDENTS.
SO WHEN WE THAT NUMBER OF PEOPLE KIND OF WOULD SEEM OVERWHELMINGLY OVERWHELMING, NORMALLY WITH I THINK IT WAS ABOUT 66 PEOPLE OR SO OR MAYBE MORE THAT ACTUALLY PARTICIPATED IN ALL THE MEETINGS.
AND YOU WOULD THINK THAT MIGHT BE CHAOS WHEN YOU STARTED MEETING.
EACH EACH TIME WE MET, WE ALL SET AT THE SAME TABLE.
THERE WERE THOSE WHO HAD BEEN EDUCATORS COULD ALL GIVE US INPUT INTO THE PROCESS AND SUPPORT AND GIVE THEIR VIEW ON WHAT THEIR VIEW ON THESE DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING. EACH TABLE WAS LED BY A FACILITATOR, AND THE FACILITATOR CAME FROM DISTRICT EMPLOYEES.
NOW, THESE GUYS WERE HERE, NOW THEY WERE NOT HERE TO PUT THEIR THUMB ON THE SCALE.
THEY WERE JUST NEUTRAL FACILITATORS.
THAT KIND OF HELPED US KEEP ON TRACK AS THEY MIGHT MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD THE RIGHT MATERIALS, THAT OUR QUESTIONS GOT ANSWERED, THAT WE KNEW WHEN TO BE THERE AND WHERE TO BE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT CAME DOWN TO THE TOUR AND KEEPING US IN LINE IN GENERAL.
BUT THEY WERE THEY SERVED AS JUST A GUIDE, NOT SO MUCH AS A CONTROLLING MECHANISM IN EACH ONE OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES AS WE PROGRESSED, BUT GREAT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY DISTRICT ADMINISTRATORS, PRINCIPALS, COMMUNITY LIAISONS, PROBABLY STAFF, MAYBE SOME OF THEM ARE HERE RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY REALLY HELPED OUT IN KEEPING US FOCUSED INSIDE THE SUBCOMMITTEES AND IN THE COMMITTEE IN GENERAL.
SO WHAT WE HEARD FROM YOU AND I WANT TO I GUESS AT THIS TIME I PROBABLY SHOULD THANK MR. SELDERS, BECAUSE HE WAS THE ONE WHO NOMINATED ME TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM.
I APPRECIATE THAT. AND WE TOOK THE CHARGE THAT YOU GUYS GAVE US SERIOUSLY TO DEVELOP A SCHOOL FACILITY REFERENDUM RECOMMENDATION THAT IS FISCALLY SOUND. WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS FOR PRESENTATION TO THE TO THE GISD BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND ULTIMATELY TO THE GARLAND ISD COMMUNITY.
THE FISCALLY SOUND PART, WE STARTED WITH A NUMBER IN MIND.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT WHAT I SAID BEFORE GETTING THE GETTING THE FACILITIES TO MATCH THE OUTSTANDING PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE SO THAT STUDENTS, WHEN THEY LEAVE HERE, THEY'RE WELL PREPARED TO SUCCEED IN LIFE.
OKAY. SO THE PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH, THERE WERE A TOTAL OF SIX MEETINGS.
IT WAS REALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN SIX WEEKS.
IT WAS PROBABLY MORE LIKE EIGHT WEEKS BECAUSE THERE WAS A GAP IN THERE.
AND THEN I THINK WE CAME BACK AFTER THANKSGIVING TO FINISH UP.
BUT WE TALKED ABOUT THE PROCESS.
THEY GAVE US A TIMELINE FOR US TO CONSIDER AS TO WHAT WAS WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO HAVE THE BOND REFERENDUM IN MAY VERSUS HAVING IT IN NOVEMBER AND WHAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN AND WHAT THAT MEANT.
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AND WE SAT DOWN OR WE HAD A DEMOGRAPHER COME IN AND GIVE US A REPORT.HE TALKED ABOUT WHERE THE DISTRICT WAS GOING OR WHERE THE THE AREA WAS GOING AND WHERE THE GROWTH WAS GOING TO BE, WHERE THE PEOPLE WITH SMALL CHILDREN WERE GOING TO BE, WHERE THE SINGLES WERE GOING TO BE, WHERE THE PEOPLE THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, THE SENIORS WERE GOING TO BE.
AND WE STILL NEED TO CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THAT.
AND THEN FINALLY, ON THAT FIRST NIGHT WAS THE SCHOOL FINANCE REPORT.
THE SECOND MEETING WAS A REVIEW OF THE PAST BONDS, AND RICK IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE PAST BONDS THAT YOU HAVE DONE AND WHAT THE NEEDS SHOULD BE GOING FORWARD. BUT WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN 2014, THAT 2014 BOND.
I SAID, OH, REALLY? YOU KNOW, SO WHERE IS THAT GOING TO COME FROM? AND SO THEY WERE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT AND HELPING TO SELL IT TO THE PARENTS.
I KNOW THEY WERE SELLING TO ME, YOU KNOW, TO GET US TO VOTE FOR IT.
AND SO AND THEN SOMETHING ELSE CAME OUT, THIS FUNNY SHAPED BUILDING OUT HERE, LIKE I SAID.
IT MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN MY CHILDREN'S LIVES.
MY DAUGHTER IS STUDYING FOR, IS GETTING READY TO APPLY FOR A PHD IN COMPARATIVE MEDICINE AFTER BEING OUT OF SCHOOL TWO YEARS BECAUSE OF A UNIT SHE LEARNED HERE IN THE VET ASSISTANT PROGRAM JUST IN THE OTHER ROOM.
SHE TOLD ME THAT WHEN SHE I REMEMBER WHEN SHE CAME HOME AND TOLD ME ABOUT SOMETHING SHE LEARNED AT THE VET ASSISTANT THING CALLED COMPARATIVE MEDICINE, AND SHE'S GOING TO HELP CURE CANCER. SHE'S ACTUALLY APPLYING FOR THE PHD PROGRAM NOW.
SO IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE.
BUT WE TALKED ABOUT PAST BONDS.
THIS ONE, OF COURSE, WAS THE BIG ONE, AND IT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN OUR CHILDREN'S SUCCESS.
THEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT, AND YOU GUYS HAD THOSE GIANT BINDERS.
WE DIDN'T GET THE BINDER, WE GOT THE PDF VERSION, WHICH WAS MUCH APPRECIATED.
WE GOT THE PDF ON A JUMP DRIVE THAT WAS MUCH APPRECIATED.
SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO TAKE HOME THOSE GIANT BOOKS WITH ALL THOSE STUFF IN IT.
AND SO THE THE NUMBER WITH THE B, IT DEFINITELY WAS A B, AND SO, WE WENT THROUGH THAT AND KIND OF GOT A LAY OF THE LAND ON IT THE THIRD DAY, THE THIRD MEETING WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT.
WE DID A FACILITIES TOUR AND, YOU KNOW, I'D BEEN IN GISD FOR A LONG TIME AND I BUT, YOU KNOW, AS A STUDENT AND AS A PARENT, YOU GO TO THE SCHOOL THAT YOU GO TO THAT YOUR CHILDREN GO TO OR THAT YOU GO TO, YOU DON'T SEE EVERYTHING.
AND HERE WE GOT TO SEE A LOT MORE THAN WE NORMALLY WOULD HAVE.
WE MY GROUP STARTED OFF WITH THE TRANSPORTATION CENTER.
BUT I WOULD USE IT FOR IT TO COOL OFF MY HORSES VERSUS COOL OFF PEOPLE.
BUT THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE.
BUT THEN THE TEACHERS, ONE OF THE ADMINISTRATORS THERE, TOLD US THAT TO GO TO THE RESTROOM, THEY HAVE TO GO TO WILLIAMS STADIUM TO GO TO THE RESTROOM.
AND I THOUGHT, OKAY, WHAT IF IT'S COLD? AND, YOU KNOW, TWO DAYS AGO, IT WAS FREEZING CLOSE TO FREEZING.
HE SAID WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT THIS.
SO FROM THERE WE WENT TO FREEMAN ELEMENTARY AND THIS WAS PROBABLY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT FOR ME BECAUSE AS I TOURED IT, I THOUGHT IF I WAS A PARENT OF A STUDENT HERE, I WOULD REALLY, REALLY BE UPSET AND I WOULD FEEL IT WOULD BE VERY PERSONAL BECAUSE IT LOOKS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND EVEN THE AVERAGE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND GISD, YOU KNOW, IT HARKS THE SEGREGATION ERA BECAUSE IT WAS SO MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE QUALITY OF WHAT THE STUDENTS AT FREEMAN HAVE AND THE AND WHAT THE STUDENTS HAD.
EVEN HILLSIDE, MUCH LESS DAUGHTERY HAVE.
NOW, I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE CONSIDERING, YOU KNOW, MAKING A DECISION ON THAT.
BUT THAT JUST SHOWS HOW MUCH WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE IN SOME AREAS OF THE DISTRICT.
SO FROM THERE WE KIND OF, WE WENT TO NAAMAN FOREST NAME AND HIGH SCHOOL AND WE WENT TO AND WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE ATHLETIC FACILITIES, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THEY DEFINITELY NEED SOME IMPROVEMENT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STRUCK US MOST THERE WAS THE TRAINING ROOM AND WHICH IS THE PLACE WHERE WE SENDING OUR STUDENTS TO RECEIVE MEDICAL CARE IF THEY GET INJURED ON THE FIELD OR DURING PRACTICE. AND IT'S REALLY MORE LIKE INSTEAD OF BEING LIKE A MEDICAL FACILITY, IT'S MORE LIKE A BROOM CLOSET.
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AND THIS IS I'M NOT BEING EXAGGERATING.THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT IT WAS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO STEP THIS UP.
IF WE WANT CHILDREN, WE WANT PEOPLE THAT HAVE CHOICES TO MAKE THEIR CHOICE TO MOVE HERE.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T PRESENT THAT TO THEM GOING FORWARD.
SO THERE'S A NEED THERE TO MAKE CHANGES.
SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS IMPORTANT.
IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN ON A BRIGHTER SIDE.
WE WENT OVER TO HILLSIDE, WHICH IS MY CHILDREN'S ALMA MATER, AND WHILE THEY DID TALK ABOUT TELL US HOW THE CONCEPT AND THE OPEN CONCEPT THAT IT HAD IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE SECURITY OF OUR OF OUR STUDENTS AND HOW WE NEED TO MAKE THE CHANGE, WHICH I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH AND DEFINITELY NEED FENCING AROUND IT SO THAT THOSE KIDS THAT RUN DON'T GET AWAY OR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T COME IN THAT ARE THAT ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE.
SO THERE ARE LOTS OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN EVEN AT HILLSIDE.
AND SO SOME OF THE SOME WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT IN SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE.
EXCELLENT PRESENTATION, A BEAUTIFUL CAMPUS WE NEED.
THAT SHOULD BE THE STANDARD IN GISD.
IT REALLY SHOULD BE. AND SO WE KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO.
WE JUST GOT TO FIND THE MONEY AND MAKE IT HAPPEN.
AND SO THAT TOOK CARE OF ALL THE FACILITIES THAT WE TOURED.
WITH THAT IN MIND. WE WENT INTO MEETING FOUR AND WE STARTED WORKING ON THE PROJECT PRIOR TO THE PRIORITY LIST AND WE STARTED REALLY KIND OF NARROWING IT DOWN TO WHAT REALLY NEEDS TO HAPPEN BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO EVERYTHING, BUT WE DO NEED TO START KIND OF FIGURING OUT WHAT WE CAN DO.
AND SO THEY INTRODUCED A PRIORITY WORKSHEET AND GAVE US A HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT TO GO HOME AND RANK THE FACILITIES OR RANK THE PROJECTS THAT WE THINK NEED TO HAPPEN AND THINGS THAT NEED, THAT WE CAN WAIT ON.
AND BASICALLY THAT WAS HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENTS.
COME BACK WITH YOUR ANSWERS FROM THEIR MEETING.
BUT HOW WOULD HOW WOULD WE PRESENT A BOND? HOW DOES IT GET PAID FOR? WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO DO A 20 YEAR VERSUS A 30 YEAR BOND? AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS ULTIMATELY WILL DECIDE.
BUT WE HAD TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE WERE COMING UP WITH THIS NUMBER BECAUSE IT STARTS WITH A B FROM THAT WE HAD A MOCK VOTE TO JUST INTRODUCE, YOU KNOW, TO SEE WHERE THE LAY OF THE LAND WAS. AND SO IT WAS A GREAT EXERCISE BECAUSE AT THAT POINT THE SUBCOMMITTEES KIND OF GOT TO START HASHING IT OUT ON WHAT WE THINK IS BEST.
AND WE KIND OF GOT INTO HOW EACH OTHER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROCESSING THINGS.
THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WERE IN FAVOR, HAD PET PROJECTS, THINGS THAT THEIR CHILDREN HAD BEEN INVOLVED WITH THAT THEY WANTED TO GET DONE OR, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT WE KIND OF HAD TO SEE, WELL, WHAT'S GOING TO MAKE SENSE AND WHAT CAN WE FIT INTO THIS? WE HAD A MOCK VOTE AND THEN I THINK WE TURNED THAT IN SO THAT THE HIGHER [INAUDIBLE] NEXT TO THAT COULD SEE WHERE WE WERE THINKING GOING INTO THE FINAL THE FINAL WEEKEND OR THE FINAL NIGHT. THAT FINAL NIGHT WAS THE FINAL VOTE.
AND WHEN WE SHOWED UP, THEY HAD A HUGE TECHNOLOGY DISPLAY WITH EACH SUBCOMMITTEE OR TABLE HAD ITS OWN GIANT SCREEN, PROBABLY THESE THINGS THAT WE WERE VOTING ON. AND SO AS WE CAST OUR VOTE, THE VOTES WERE BEING PROJECTED ONTO A SCREEN AT OUR TABLE AND THEN ALSO TO A SCREEN ON THE WALL.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO GET INTO NOW.
WHAT ARE THE RESULTS? AND. SO LIKE I SAID, IT'S A BIG NUMBER.
STARTED WITH A B, AND IT ENDS WITH A B.
WE INITIALLY I THINK THAT BIG BINDER HAS $3 BILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS IN IT.
DR. LOPEZ AND HIS GROUP GOT IT DOWN TO A MORE MANAGEABLE NUMBER THAT THEY PRESENTED TO US.
BUT LIKE I SAID, YOU HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, FROM RICK AND I, AND I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM THE PARENTS ONCE THEY FIND OUT WHAT'S WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED.
I NOTICED. I'LL TAKE YOUR SILENCE AS AGREEMENT.
YOU KNOW, ONE THING I DID WANT TO FOLLOW ON WITH.
AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FACILITIES.
BUT THE UNDERLYING STORY HERE AND I KNOW IT'S MOSTLY STAFF THAT'S BEHIND ME IS THANKS TO THE STAFF OF THIS DISTRICT. YOU GUYS DO MORE WITH LESS THAN I THINK PRETTY MUCH ANY OTHER DISTRICT IN THE METROPLEX.
AND AND THAT'S A REAL TESTAMENT TO YOU ALL.
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THE CONDITIONS THAT WE SAW IN SOME SCHOOLS WERE VERY DIFFICULT TO TEACH.AND YOU'RE FIGHTING THE FACILITY IN WHAT'S ALREADY A DIFFICULT ENVIRONMENT TO EDUCATE.
AND SO WE'RE SO GRATEFUL FOR YOUR WORK AND OUR GOAL.
I THINK THE GOAL OF THE COMMITTEE WAS GIVE YOU MORE TO DO MORE.
AND SO THAT'S REALLY, I THINK, WHERE WE'RE AT AND THE STUFF THAT YOU'LL SEE, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT THE SELECTION, HOW THESE PROJECTS WERE SELECTED, HOW THEY WERE TALKED ABOUT, QUESTIONS WERE ASKED.
BUT THE PROCESS ULTIMATELY ON THE VOTE WAS WE WERE DIVIDED INTO TEN TABLES AND IN ORDER FOR A TABLE TO APPROVE IT, TWO THIRDS OF THOSE MEMBERS AT THE TABLE HAD TO SAY YES, ON A PROJECT OR ON THE PRIORITY ONE, THERE WAS A LARGE BUCKET.
SO THERE WAS A LARGE BUCKET THAT'S ALL PRIORITY ONE THAT PASSED 100%.
EVERY PERSON, EVERY TABLE, EVERY PERSON, NOT A SINGLE VOTE AGAINST.
I THINK WE KNOW AND MOST OF THAT IS ALONG THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THE OF THE DISTRICT.
AND AND SO YOU HAD TO HAVE TWO THIRDS OF THE TABLES APPROVE.
SO SEVEN OUT OF THE TEN GETS US TO THAT NUMBER.
SO AS WE GO THROUGH IT, I'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE DETAILS.
AND SO THIS SHOWS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE FIELDHOUSE AND THE MULTIPURPOSE ACTIVITY CENTER THAT EVERY TABLE APPROVED THAT HAD A VERY HIGH APPROVAL RATE, ONLY ONE VOTE AGAINST ON THE FIELD HOUSE RENOVATIONS, WHICH IS PUTS IT AT 98% OF THE PEOPLE THERE SUPPORTED IT.
AND THEN YOU LOOKED AT SOME THINGS THAT WERE ALMOST THERE THAT SIX OF THE TEN TABLES APPROVED AND A NUMBER OF THESE WERE THE WERE THE ELEMENTARY PROTOTYPE CLASSROOMS. AND SO I THINK WHAT YOU SEE HERE AND BY THE WAY, NO PROJECT, NOTHING THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US, DID ANYONE SAY THIS IS A TERRIBLE IDEA? WE ALL LOOKED AT ALL OF THESE THINGS AND THESE ARE ALL NEEDS, $3 BILLION IN NEEDS.
THERE ARE SO MANY NEEDS IN THIS DISTRICT.
AND YOU LOOK AT THAT AND WE SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME HARD CHOICES.
BUT AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THIS MORE LATER, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK FOR THAT ONE.
NOW, THERE WERE A FEW INSTANCES WHERE WE SAID, NOT THIS.
AND THE ONES THAT YOU SEE HERE IN RED, WE'RE VERY CLOSE, THE COMMITTEE WAS VERY FOCUSED AND VERY CONCERNED ABOUT SECURITY, SAFETY AND SECURITY ISSUES. AND A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS, I MEAN, EVEN THE MULTIPURPOSE FACILITY HAS A SAFETY AND SECURITY COMPONENT TO IT.
ARE IN SUCH POOR CONDITION, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO PUT EIGHT OR $9 MILLION INTO A SCHOOL THAT'S ALREADY FAILED INTO A SCHOOL THAT SHOULD JUST BE REPLACED.
AND SO THAT'S WHY THESE ENDED UP IN RED.
NOW, THERE ARE STILL SECURITY IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE PART OF THE PRIORITY ONE, IMPROVEMENTS.
I KNOW THE STAFF CAN TALK IN GREATER DETAIL ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST ONE THAT TALKS ABOUT ROWLETT, TOLER, NORTHLAKE, AND HICKMAN, $28 DOLLARS AND SIX SAID YES, SOME TABLES SAID NO.
YOU KNOW, IF WE DIVIDED THOSE OUT, IT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT.
YOU KNOW, TOLER IS AND THOSE ARE THINGS FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER.
TOLER IS IS A SCHOOL THAT IS ACTUALLY IN RELATIVELY GOOD SHAPE FOR THAT SCHOOL.
IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE. WHEREAS FOR ROWLETT OR NORTHLAKE IT MIGHT NOT MAKE SENSE.
SO TOLER IN PARTICULAR IS KIND OF A FAR FLUNG PART OF THE DISTRICT.
AND, AND THAT BRINGS UP QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR ABILITY TO RESPOND FROM A SECURITY PERSPECTIVE.
BUT WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN IDEA.
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AND IMPROVEMENTS AT EVERY ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS, PRIORITIZING MAINTENANCE, ROOFING, HVAC, PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL, JUST REAL NUTS AND BOLTS. AND THAT WAS PART OF THE PRIORITY ONES AND WAS APPROVED 100%.WE REALLY BELIEVE THAT THAT THE UNDERLYING FOCUS OF OF THIS BOND ELECTION, THE UNDERLYING STORY OF IT IS IS IMPROVING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, IMPROVING THE FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE AND THE FACILITIES THAT WE NEED TO HAVE.
AND THERE'S A LOT MORE DETAILED BREAKDOWNS.
AND I THINK IT'S PROBABLY WORTH FOR US TO GIVE YOU TODAY.
THE NEXT ITEM WAS THREE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, THREE NEW ELEMENTARY CAMPUSES.
AND THIS IS ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE VERY STRONG ABOUT.
IT ACTUALLY CAME DOWN INITIALLY WITH TWO ELEMENTARY CAMPUSES GETTING 100% SUPPORT ON EACH OF THEM.
THE THIRD ELEMENTARY CAMPUS, WE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS THERE WAS A LOT OF I DON'T WANT TO SAY DISSENSION, BUT WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS, THE POTENTIAL SECURITY IMPROVEMENTS COMPARED WITH JUST REPLACE, JUST BUILDING A NEW SCHOOL, AS WE GOT TOWARDS THE END OF THE MEETING, THERE WAS KIND OF THIS SWELL OF MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T DO THOSE SECURITY IMPROVEMENTS, MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T PUT MONEY INTO FAILING SCHOOLS AND WE SHOULD BUILD ANOTHER ELEMENTARY CAMPUS.
AND THE CHAIRS WORKED WITH STAFF TO TRY AND FIND A WAY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
I STRONGLY SUPPORT NEW FACILITIES.
I MEAN, WE HAVE AS BRIAN I MEAN, FREEMAN ELEMENTARY, GOD BLESS IT.
IT'S WHAT, ALMOST 80 YEARS OLD AND IT'S TIME.
IT'S JUST TIME. YOU CAN ONLY PUT SO MANY BAND AIDS AND SO MANY RENOVATIONS AND OTHER THINGS.
AND YOU JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT OUR TEACHERS, OUR STAFF AND OUR KIDS DESERVE THEY DESERVE BETTER.
WE DID NOT SAY YES ON ON A NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL, BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY A NEED.
AND I'LL TALK TOWARDS THE END ABOUT THE PATH GOING FORWARD WHERE WE LOOK AT FOR THE FUTURE.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ON THE COMMITTEE SAW THIS AS A SINGLE BOND ELECTION PROCESS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO TAKE MANY YEARS.
AND THE NEXT ITEM, ADA ACCESSIBLE PLAYGROUNDS WITH CANOPIES AT EVERY ELEMENTARY CAMPUS.
YOU KNOW, WE THOUGHT THIS WAS THIS WAS A BIG ONE, MAKING SURE THAT AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, THAT ALL ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS THAT THEY HAVE THAT CAPACITY FOR SAFE AND EFFECTIVE PLAY FOR EVERY STUDENT THAT'S AVAILABLE, THAT'S ADA ACCESSIBLE AT EVERY CAMPUS.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT ELEMENTARY PLAYGROUNDS ARE SO IMPORTANT WHEN WHEN WE DID THE THE CITY BOND ELECTION PLAYGROUND, YOU KNOW, I WAS ON THE CITY COUNCIL AT THAT POINT, ONE OF THE PRIMARY ARCHITECTS OF THE CITY BOND PROGRAM.
I WANT TO SEE THAT. AND WE'VE GOT TO WHERE IS IT? THIS IS A PLAYGROUND OVER AT A NEW ELEMENTARY THAT'S BEING BUILT IN.
VERY SAFE, VERY ACCESSIBLE ON THE PLAYGROUND THAT APPEARS TO YOUR LEFT.
YOU CAN SEE THE RAMPING THAT'S THERE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL KIDS ALL KIDS HAVE A PLACE.
EVERY KID, NO MATTER WHAT THEIR ABILITY IS, WHAT THEIR CAPABILITIES ARE.
HAS A PLACE, HAS A HOME IN THIS DISTRICT.
AND SO IT'S KIND OF, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IT DIDN'T HAVE A SEPARATE PROPOSITION.
IT'S KIND OF BURIED IN THE PRIORITY ONE.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY GOOD, IMPORTANT STUFF IN THERE.
COMBINE THESE, BUILD A NEW ONE.
NEW TRANSPORTATION CENTER BRIAN TALKED ABOUT THAT THAT GOT 72% SUPPORT SO IT WAS GOT SOME REALLY GOOD SUPPORT.
AND YOU LOOK AT THE TRANSPORTATION CENTER, YOU LOOK AT THE NEED IS THERE.
I MEAN, MY GOD, THEY CAN'T FIT A, IF YOU CANNOT FIT A BUS INTO A REPAIR BAY, I MEAN, ARE YOU REALLY REPAIRING THE BUS? AND SO THINGS LIKE THAT AND THINGS THAT WE PUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD ENOUGH TO ATTRACT DRIVERS AS IT IS, AND THAT IS NOT A FACILITY THAT I'D BE PROUD
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OF WORKING OUT OF.AND SO WE NEED A NEW TRANSPORTATION FACILITY.
AND I THINK THAT AND THAT'S ON LAND THAT COULD BE USED FOR OTHER THINGS IF IT GETS MOVED.
AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER.
THE NEW NETWORK OPERATIONS CENTER RECEIVED 97% SUPPORT.
AND MATT WAS, YOU KNOW, MATT WAS AT MY TABLE.
SO THAT MIGHT HAVE INFLUENCED MY TABLE.
NO, WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL ACTUALLY, AND STANLEY POLLARD ALSO.
SO I WAS TABLE SIX, WE GOT THREE OF THE TABLE'S SIX MEMBERS HERE SO WE'RE REPRESENTING.
BUT THE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND, BUT I'M SURE PEOPLE WERE AT HOME WATCHING AND STUFF.
DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THE NETWORK OPERATIONS CENTER IS TO THE DISTRICT, THAT IT'S REALLY THE ABSOLUTE HEART OF THE DISTRICT. IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN TO THAT NETWORK OPERATION CENTER, WE MIGHT AS WELL JUST JUST ALL GO HOME AND JUST FORGET ABOUT IT.
AND AND SO WE NEED A NEW NETWORK OPERATION CENTER, A NEW FACILITY.
RIGHT. LET'S LOOK AT SOMETHING.
LET'S WE HAVE AN EXISTING FACILITY THAT IS SUBPAR, THAT DOESN'T WE TURN IT INTO BE MORE NOT TO DETRACT FROM THE CURRENT FACILITY, BUT IT FEELS ALMOST LESS OF AN EDUCATION FACILITY AND MORE OF A HOBBY FACILITY.
SO WE CAN'T DO THAT STUFF HERE.
AND SO WHERE CAN WE DO THAT? AND THEN THE EXPANSION OF THIS FACILITY, THE SECOND LEG AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THAT WAS THAT WAS JUST CLOSE TO 77 TABLES PAST IT. AND SOMETIMES YOU LOOK AT A FACILITY AND YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT FIRST PIECE WAS STEP ONE.
SO THESE ARE ALL YOU KNOW, THE GREAT THING HERE IS THIS WHOLE LIST WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NEW THINGS BUILDING NEW BUILDING IT RIGHT AND BUILDING ACROSS. THESE ARE ALL OVER THESE THESE ARE THINGS THAT I THINK WE WILL SEE ALL OVER THE DISTRICT, THINGS THAT AFFECT THE ENTIRE DISTRICT.
WE'RE REALLY CONCERNED WITH MAKING SURE THAT EVERY STUDENT GETS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REACH THEIR FULLEST POTENTIAL, WHATEVER THAT IS, WHATEVER THAT IS. WHAT'S YOUR POTENTIAL? YOU KNOW, ARE YOU SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO GO INTO MEDICINE? ARE YOU SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO GO INTO INTO TECHNOLOGY OR INSURANCE OR SOME KIND OF SPORTING RELATED THING? HOW CAN WE GET YOU TO YOUR FULLEST POTENTIAL? AND THAT'S A BENEFIT TO THOSE STUDENTS.
IT'S A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT BRINGS IN.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT IMPROVING YOUR COMMUNITY, YOU BRING BUSINESSES WANT TO BE IN PLACES WHERE THEY CAN GET GREAT STUDENTS AND WHERE THEIR KIDS CAN GO TO GREAT SCHOOLS. AND SO WE THINK THE APPEAL ON THIS STUFF IS MORE THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, I HAVE KIDS WHO ARE GOING TO BE IN THE DISTRICT FOR X NUMBER OF YEARS.
I LIVE. IN THIS TRI-CITIES COMMUNITY, AND I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE REAL GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT HERE.
SECOND SLIDE ON RECOMMENDATIONS.
THIS IS CONTINUED FINE ARTS IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH INCLUDE RENOVATIONS OF ALL HIGH SCHOOL AUDITORIUMS AND DANCE ROOMS. SPENT A FEW TIMES AND I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN IN THREE OR FOUR OF THE HIGH SCHOOL AUDITORIUMS JUST BECAUSE THEY DO THE THE MIDDLE SCHOOL DRAMA COMPETITIONS HAPPEN THERE AND AND THEY'RE GOOD FACILITIES. BUT WE NEED BUT A LOT OF THEM ARE, MAN, WHAT KIDS DO TO SUCCEEDING IN AUDITORIUMS. IT HASN'T CHANGED SINCE I WAS A KID.
BUT THESE ARE USED FACILITIES AND THEY NEED RENOVATION.
SO FIELDHOUSE ADDITIONS AT EVERY HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS.
YOU KNOW AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT HERE THESE.
THIS WAS APPROVED 98% THERE WAS ONLY ONE DISSENTING VOTE.
I DON'T KNOW WHO IT WAS BUT FIELDHOUSE ADDITIONS WERE A BIG DEAL AND THIS WAS THE TRAINING FACILITIES, YOU KNOW, AND TO THANK THE FACILITATORS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A LOT OF INSIDE KNOWLEDGE AND WE GET BACK TO OUR TABLE AND WE ASKED.
CARMEN WE'RE LIKE SO THAT TRAINING ROOM AT NAAMAN IS THAT LIKE THE ONLY ONE AND NOT ONLY BY THE WAY, NOT ONLY IS IT AS BRIAN SAID, A BROOM CLOSET, IT'S A BAD BROOM CLOSET AND AND CARMEN WAS LIKE, OH, NO, ALL OF OUR TRAINING FACILITIES OR ALL OF OUR TRAINING ROOMS ARE LIKE THAT.
THEY'RE ALL BROOM CLOSETS WE'RE WORKING WITH.
IT'S JUST. AND IT'S JUST A FACTOR OF HOW THOSE THINGS WERE DESIGNED AT THE TIME.
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AND WE WENT ON THE TOUR IN ARLINGTON AND WE WENT TO LAMAR.MAN, THE TRAINING FACILITY THERE, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD WANT TO SEE THAT IF I WENT THERE, IF I HAD A KID WHO WAS ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN ATHLETICS AND SPORTS, I WOULD WANT TO KNOW THAT THAT'S WHERE THEY WERE.
I'D SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE CAN MAYBE FIND ANOTHER DISTRICT FOR YOU BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT.
BUT BUT WE NEED TO GIVE THEM THE TOOLS THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE TO DO THESE THINGS THAT THE AND THIS TIES IN AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE MULTI USE FACILITIES.
THIS WAS ALL THAT WAS A PRIORITY ONE ITEM.
TURF FIELDS FOR ALL HIGH SCHOOL BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FOOTBALL FIELDS WITH CANOPIES.
AND WE ACTUALLY VOTED IN FAVOR OF REMOVING PORTABLES BECAUSE THERE ARE SECURITY RISK.
THERE ARE BEHAVIORAL ISSUES AND OTHER STUFF.
WE VOTED IN FAVOR OF MOVING THEM EVERYWHERE.
BUT BUT STAFF LOOKED AT IT AND THEY BELIEVE THAT THAT THAT REMOVING THE USE OF PORTABLES AT THE AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND OTHER LEVELS CAN BE DONE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE BOND PROGRAM. BUT THAT'S THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
AND THAT'S KIND OF THE COMMITMENT THERE IS WE'RE GETTING RID OF THESE PORTABLES.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU GO TO HILLSIDE, WENT TO HILLSIDE, YOU STEP OUTSIDE AND THERE ARE ALL THESE PORTABLES AND YOU'RE LIKE, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY 100% NOT SECURE.
BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST THE REALITY THAT WE HAVE.
AND THAT GETS INTO AND I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT HOW EXPENSIVE.
THE NUMBERS ARE EXPENSIVE, THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
THERE'S STICKER SHOCK ASSOCIATED WITH ALL THIS $50-60 MILLION FOR AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
AND YOU THINK, OH MY GOD, HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE? BUT THEN YOU REALIZE THAT YOU'RE MAKING THESE THINGS TORNADO SAFE AND YOU'RE MAKING THEM BASICALLY SAFE FROM ATTACK.
SO IT'S BOTH A FORTRESS AND A SIEVE.
I MEAN, IT'S ONE OF THESE THINGS.
IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED DESIGN.
AND THESE CAMPUSES ARE EXPENSIVE.
SECURITY PERIMETER FENCING AT ALL ENTRANCES, AT ALL CAMPUSES.
AGAIN, PEOPLE VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF THAT.
AND AND THEN SECURITY FILM AT ALL ENTRANCES.
ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO PROVIDE TIME TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS THAT'S THAT THAT PASSED WITH 92% OF THE VOTE TOTAL HERE IS A LITTLE OVER $1,000,000,000 AND WE'RE NOT DONE. AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE WERE SOME FOLKS THERE WERE PLENTY OF FOLKS WHO WERE LIKE, WELL, COULD WE SPEND COULD WE DO 1.9 BILLION? HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST TO DO THE WHOLE 3 BILLION? I MEAN, PEOPLE THERE ARE CITIZEN SUPPORT TO DO BIG THINGS HERE, AND SOME OF THEM ARE.
IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE, I THINK, TO MANAGE OR TO GET PASS A PROGRAM THAT IS THAT LARGE.
BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY THINKING ABOUT HOW DO WE ADDRESS ALL? ALL OF THESE NEEDS.
AND CANDIDLY, THE 3 BILLION DOES NOT EVEN I DON'T THINK YOU'RE EVEN TOUCHING ALL THE NEEDS.
BE RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, MULTIPURPOSE ACTIVITY CENTERS AT ALL CAMPUSES.
THIS WAS APPROVED BY ALL TEN TABLES WITH 94% OF THE VOTE.
AND I WENT WITH WITH SOME OTHER FOLKS.
WE WENT AND WE TOURED THE MULTIPURPOSE ACTIVITY CENTER AT LAMAR HIGH SCHOOL IN ARLINGTON.
ALL THE ARLINGTON, ALL ARLINGTON HIGH SCHOOLS HAVE THIS ALL 40 HIGH SCHOOLS HAVE THIS HALL.
I THINK. RICHARDSON HIGH SCHOOLS HAVE THIS.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE SEEING.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT LET'S, YOU KNOW, LET'S DO SOMETHING.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT BEING WHEN I HEARD ABOUT IT, I THOUGHT IT WAS AVANT GARDE.
OH, WE'RE DOING SOMETHING. IT'S LIKE, ACTUALLY, NO, WE'RE CATCHING UP.
WE'RE CATCHING UP TO WHERE OTHER FOLKS ARE.
THIS GOES WITH THE FIELD HOUSE IMPROVEMENTS.
THESE WILL BE TYPICALLY CONNECTED TO OR RELATED TO THE FIELD HOUSES IN ARLINGTON.
THEY BUILT THEM AS A COMBINED FIELD HOUSE AND ACTIVITY CENTER.
AND AND AND I REALLY GOT TO TELL YOU, I'M SEEING IT MADE ME EVEN MORE OF A BELIEVER.
I HAD MY DOUBTS BUT TRUSTED IN WHAT OTHER FOLKS WERE SAYING, WHAT STAFF WAS SAYING, BUT ACTUALLY SEEING IT, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THERE AT NINE IN THE MORNING AND 9:15 IN THE MORNING, AND WE SPENT A COUPLE OF HOURS OR SO THERE, MAYBE AN HOUR AND A HALF, I DON'T KNOW.
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BUT IT WAS IT WAS IN CONSTANT USE.WE WERE OUT LOOKING AT THE FIELD ITSELF.
THEY WERE THERE WAS A SOCCER TEAM THERE.
THEY DO ALL KINDS OF THINGS, THINGS THAT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO DO IN EITHER OUR VERY HOT SEASON OR ON RAINY PARTS OF OUR RAINY SEASON OR VERY COLD OR ALL KINDS OF OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES.
I THINK EVERY EVERY HIGH SCHOOL WOULD USE IT DIFFERENTLY AND WE'LL HAVE THE BENEFIT OF HOW BECAUSE ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WAS WHAT WOULD YOU DO DIFFERENTLY? AND THEIR ANSWER WAS THAT THEY WOULD MAKE IT BIGGER AND THAT THEY WOULD HAVE CHANGED THE VIEWING PLATFORMS, THAT THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO RECORD THINGS AND DO BAND STUFF AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, IS IT APPROPRIATE? WHERE WOULD YOU PUT THEM? WE DIDN'T GET INTO THE WEEDS OF WHERE WOULD YOU PUT THESE AT EACH HIGH SCHOOL AND HOW WELL, WHAT HIGH SCHOOLS WOULD USE THEM THIS WAY OR, OR WHATEVER.
BUT WE STRONGLY BELIEVED IN PROVIDING EQUITY AND OPPORTUNITY TO TO ALL TO ALL HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS IN THE DISTRICT. I WANT TO PLEASE JUMP TO PLEASE.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS WE LOOKED AT THIS, I WAS THIS WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WAS KIND OF LOOKS LIKE A SPECIAL THING, YOU KNOW, AND WHY DO WE NEED THIS? AND AS I THOUGHT ABOUT IT MORE AND TALK WITH OTHER PARENTS, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO WE WANT TO ATTRACT PEOPLE WITH CHOICES INTO THIS DISTRICT.
AND WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO BUY THEIR HOUSE? AND THEY'RE MAKING THE DECISION, YOU KNOW, AND THEIR CHILDREN, BECAUSE THEY'RE PUTTING THEIR MONEY BEHIND IT, THEIR CHILDREN AND THEIR ATHLETICS IS IMPORTANT TO THEM.
IT WOULD MIND IF I WAS ONE OF THOSE PARENTS, I'D BE HONEST.
SO, YOU KNOW, THIS JUST GETTING US UP TO BE ON PAR WITH THE OTHER DISTRICTS IS IMPORTANT.
YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE IF YOU'RE NOT USING IT OR MAY NOT, YOU MAY BE WORRIED ABOUT THE USE OF IT, BUT IT'S GOING TO ATTRACT THE PEOPLE THAT WE WANT HERE TO HELP MAKE THIS HELP GROW THE DISTRICT, HELP MAKE THE DISTRICT EVEN BETTER THAN IT IS NOW.
THANK YOU, BRIAN. YEAH, IT'S, I THINK THERE'LL BE, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR FEELINGS TO BRIAN ON THIS.
YOU LOOK AT IT AT FIRST, YOU'RE LIKE, HMM.
AND THEN YOU START TO DIG INTO THIS STUFF AND YOU'RE LIKE, YEAH, THIS IS SOMETHING WE REALLY NEED.
AND WE'VE GOT KIDS OUT THERE IN THE SUMMERS AND OTHER TIMES.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE ON THAT GOING FROM THERE.
PROPOSITION C, WHICH IS A STUDENT AND STAFF DEVICE REFRESH, WHICH HAD 67%.
I MEAN, THESE ARE ALWAYS TOUGH, RIGHT? IT'S LIKE IT'S JUST, LIKE, REPLACEABLE.
YEAH, IT'S LIKE WE SPENT ALL THIS MONEY TO BUY THESE, AND HERE WE ARE AGAIN.
BUT, BOY, YOU GOT TO KEEP UP, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE SAME THING.
IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST LIKE REPLACING YOUR OWN TECHNOLOGY, YOUR PHONE OR WHATEVER ELSE.
AND SO THAT'S A THAT'S A REAL QUESTION ON THAT.
GO AHEAD. ONE THING THAT WASN'T A QUESTION, THOUGH, WAS HOW IT BENEFIT US DURING THE PANDEMIC.
HOW HOW THE STUDENT BECAUSE MY MY DAUGHTER WAS A SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL.
AND WHEN THEY SWITCHED OVER TO JUST TO VIRTUAL LEARNING, THEY ALREADY HAD THE EQUIPMENT NECESSARY.
THEY ALREADY HAD THE EQUIPMENT NECESSARY TO PERFORM, TO MEET WITH THE TEACHERS AND TO GET THEIR HOMEWORK DONE, TO TURN IT IN, TO LOAD IT UP TO THE GOOGLE DRIVE OR WHATEVER THEY WERE USING, AND TO TO CONTINUE ON AS IF ALMOST AS IF, YOU KNOW, IT HADN'T EVEN HAPPENED.
WE'VE GOT TO KEEP THIS UP AND THIS IS PART OF IT.
SO IT MAKES IT IF WE SHOULD DO IT.
AND SO THEN YOU CAN LOOK AT THIS IS JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE DISTRIBUTION IS.
YOU KNOW, 59% OF THE BOND GOES TOWARDS NEW FACILITIES, MAJOR ADDITIONS, THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, THE LOCKER ROOMS, THE GCRTC, THE SERVICE CENTER, THE FIELD HOUSES, EVERYTHING.
THERE'S A LOT OF NEW THAT'S IN HERE.
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AND BUT IT'S NEW, BUT IT'S REPLACING EXISTING FACILITIES FOR THE MOST PART.WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BRINGING OUR CAPABILITY TO BRING OUR FACILITIES UP TO PAR.
AND SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS WHY WE LOOK AT THE PRIORITY IMPROVEMENTS.
BUT BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S THESE ARE THESE ARE CAMPUS PRIORITY IMPROVEMENTS BY BUILDING NEW CAMPUSES, NEW FACILITIES. IT IS VERY MUCH A NUTS AND BOLTS INFRASTRUCTURE BOND.
CAMPUS SECURITY IMPROVEMENTS, 7%.
BUT, YOU KNOW, ALMOST ALL OF THESE THINGS HAVE A SAFETY AND SECURITY COMPONENT TO THEM.
NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS HAVE A MAJOR SAFETY AND SECURITY COMPONENTS.
THE ACTIVITY CENTERS HAVE A SAFETY COMPONENT TO THEM.
SO YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THAT STUFF, YOU HAVE TO PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER.
SO THE TOTAL COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION AND I KNOW THIS IS STICKER SHOCK, I WILL TELL YOU THAT WHEN I STARTED THIS PRODUCT PROCESS, I NEVER THOUGHT I'D BE STANDING HERE SAYING AND SO WE CUT IT DOWN TO 1.2 BILLION.
REALLY? YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME.
AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT AS YOU START BRINGING THIS OUT TO THE PUBLIC AT WHATEVER YOU ALL DECIDE, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN YOUR HANDS. AND I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT TO BRING IT OUT EARLY TO PEOPLE BECAUSE THERE IS GOING TO BE STICKER SHOCK AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT.
AND THEN BECAUSE ONCE YOU GET INTO THE DETAILS OF IT, YOU'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS IS REASONABLE.
YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO.
AND I'LL ADD TO THAT, THAT THAT THE TIME IS NOW FOR THIS STUFF.
INFLATIONARY PRESSURES ARE INSANE.
AND THE MORE WE WAIT ON SOME OF THIS STUFF, IT'S NOT GOING TO GET ANY CHEAPER.
THE OPPORTUNITIES AREN'T GOING TO GET ANY BETTER.
THE OTHER PIECE OF IT IS, IS THAT THERE IS A LOT OF AND I KNOW THE FINANCIAL FOLKS WILL TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THINGS HAVE BEEN SO WELL MANAGED OVER THE YEARS AND BECAUSE THE LAST BOND WAS NINE YEARS AGO, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT BONDING CAPACITY HERE, YOU KNOW, THE UPTICK IN VALUE VALUATIONS AND OTHER THINGS.
AND NOW IS THE TIME TO ADDRESS THESE NEEDS, PARTICULARLY PARTICULARLY NOW, PARTICULARLY BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE CHANGES ANYTHING OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. AND JUST FROM THE POLITICAL FROM THE POLITICAL PERSPECTIVE, AS SOMEONE WHO SERVED ON THE CITY COUNCIL IN GARLAND OVER SIX YEARS, THE THINGS THAT GIVE YOU HEARTACHE ARE LIKE HOW MUCH MORE DIFFICULT? I MEAN, IT'S I HATE TO CALL IT A GAME, BUT IT'S LIKE, HOW MUCH MORE DIFFICULT IS THE LEGISLATURE GOING TO MAKE IT FOR THE PEOPLE TO EXPRESS THEIR WILL? HOW MUCH MORE DIFFICULT ARE THEY GOING TO MAKE IT TO PASS A BOND? I MEAN, IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHERE WERE YOU WEARING CLOWN SHOES WHEN YOU VOTED? BECAUSE IF YOU DIDN'T, YOUR VOTE'S NOT GOING TO COUNT.
I MEAN, IT KIND OF FEELS LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, IT WAS LIKE, WELL, IF YOU DON'T HAVE, I THINK THE.
IT'S LIKE IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE 50% TURNOUT, IT DOESN'T COUNT, WHICH IS INSANE.
AND IT DIDN'T PASS. BUT BOY, THAT BILL GETS FILED AGAIN, 50%.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT THE TURNOUT LEVELS LOOK LIKE.
IT'S ONLY IT'S VERY RARE THAT YOU GET ABOVE A 50% TURNOUT.
AND SO IT WOULD MAKE FURTHER GROWTH IN THE DISTRICT IMPOSSIBLE.
AND CANDIDLY, YOU KNOW, SO YOU LOOK AT THIS, YOU KNOW, AND I KIND OF FEEL LIKE, AND FOR WHAT, $0.02, YOU KNOW, FOR A COUPLE PENNIES ON THE VALUATION, YOU GET ALL THIS.
I FEEL LIKE I'M SELLING STEAK KNIVES OR SOMETHING, RIGHT? YOU GET ALL THIS. BUT NOW WE'RE GOING TO ALSO THROW IN WE'RE SENDING EVERYBODY IN THE DISTRICT SOME GINSU KNIVES AND YEAH, YOU GET A PLAYGROUND AND YOU GET A PLAYGROUND AND YOU GET A PLAYGROUND. AND THAT'S THE THING.
I MEAN, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AND THIS IS AND MAYBE THIS IS PURELY POLITICAL, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE MANDATORY LANGUAGE OF THIS IS A TAX INCREASE. I MEAN, LISTEN, YOU SEND SOMEBODY INTO A VOTING BOOTH, YOU SPEND ALL THIS TIME IF LET'S SAY THAT THIS NUMBER WAS 900 MILLION OR 800 MILLION REQUIRED, NO TAX INCREASE WHATSOEVER. AND SO YOU SPEND ALL THIS TIME SAYING NO TAX INCREASE, NO TAX INCREASE, NO TAX INCREASE.
SOMEBODY GOES INTO THE VOTING BOOTH AND THE LANGUAGE SAYS THE MANDATORY LANGUAGE FROM THE LEGISLATURE SAYS THIS IS A TAX INCREASE, MIGHT AS WELL JUST PUT UNDERNEATH IT. AND YOU HAVE BEEN LIED TO.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT IT FEELS LIKE, RIGHT? THAT COGNITIVE DISSONANCE WE'VE BEEN TOLD THIS MUST BE THE LANGUAGE AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO GO INTO THE VOTING BOOTH AND THEY'RE ALL GOING TO SAY, WELL, THAT BOARD OF TRUSTEES ARE ALL A BUNCH OF LIARS.
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AND SO, I MEAN, SO IF THEY'RE GOING TO SAY IF THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE YOU SAY MAKE IT A TAX INCREASE, THERE'S MORE THAN ENOUGH NEEDS.I MEAN, LITERALLY, YOU KNOW, GETTING THIS DOWN TO 1.2 BILLION WAS DIFFICULT.
IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED IT.
WE DESPERATELY NEED MIDDLE SCHOOLS.
WE DESPERATELY NEED NEW MIDDLE SCHOOLS.
I MEAN, $320 MILLION FOR A NEW HIGH SCHOOL.
AND IT'S A MIND BOGGLING NUMBER.
BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, IS AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHERE I TALK ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS, YOU KNOW, SO WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU CALL THIS BOND THAT YOU CALL IT NOW BEFORE IT GETS MORE COMPLICATED, BECAUSE IF IT IF YOU WAIT UNTIL NOVEMBER, IF THE RULES ARE GOING TO CHANGE AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU DO THEN DO IT WITH THESE TODAY'S RULES.
THE OTHER RECOMMENDATION IS CONSIDER ADOPTING A BOND CYCLE POLICY AND PROCESS GOING FORWARD, WHICH I DID HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT PART, BECAUSE AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT AND THAT WERE REALLY GOOD, GOOD IDEAS.
BUT THERE ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T REALLY BRING THINGS FROM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE NEVER HAD NO ONE HAD EVER THOUGHT OF, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR US TO EITHER CONTINUE WITH A COMMITTEE LIKE THIS OR TO HAVE A PLACE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE INPUT, TO BE ABLE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA, FIND OUT HOW MUCH IS THIS GOING TO COST SO THAT WE CAN CONSIDER IT IN A FUTURE BOND SO THAT THAT WE KNOW IS GOING TO BE COMING UP.
SO WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS LIKE CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF WAITING TEN YEARS TO DO THE NEXT BOND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE GO AHEAD AND SAY, YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS ONE, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER ONE COMING SOON OR COMING IN THE NEXT FIVE OR SIX YEARS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CONSIDER CLOSELY IN THE FUTURE SO THAT WE KIND OF HAVE A PIPELINE OF WHAT TO EXPECT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS THE TRUSTEES, YOU GUYS ARE SET IN THE FUTURE OF THE DISTRICT. YOU KNOW WHAT? THE CHILDREN THAT ARE NOT EVEN BORN GOING TO BE ATTENDING THESE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.
SHOULD WE HAVE THEM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE BE THE FIRST ONE THAT'S ENDING? SHOULD WE GO FORWARD WITH IT? WE GOT TO LOOK AT WHAT THE FUTURE IS GOING TO BE, LAY THE GROUNDWORK NOW AND THEN SET IT UP SO THAT TRUSTEES THAT COME AFTER YOU CAN JUST PICK UP THE BATON THAT YOU'RE LEAVING AND THE OTHER. AND FOLLOWING WHAT BRIAN WAS SAYING THERE, IT'S YOU KNOW, I KNOW FOR A LOT OF REASONS, IT'S BEEN NINE YEARS SINCE THE LAST BOND.
THE PREVIOUS BOND BEFORE THAT WAS A 12 YEAR GAP AND THEN SIX YEARS AND THEN FOUR YEARS.
AND SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN ONE BOND SPENDING MORE MONEY THAN THE PREVIOUS FOUR.
ALTHOUGH IF YOU ADJUST THAT FOR INFLATION, IT'S IT'S A LOT CLOSER.
IF YOU IF YOU TAKE THE PREVIOUS FOUR AND ADJUST THEM FOR TODAY'S DOLLARS.
THE PREVIOUS FOUR BONDS WERE ABOUT 1.7 BILLION.
AND SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING BIG, BUT WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT THESE ARE FACILITIES.
WE HAVE FACILITIES THAT ARE THAT ARE TRULY STARTING TO AGE OUT.
AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY ARGUMENT ABOUT THAT.
AND AND HOW DO YOU I MEAN, IT PAINS ME IT PAINS ME GREATLY TO SAY, YOU KNOW, LET'S PUT 70 OR $80 MILLION INTO A HIGH SCHOOL, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE SAYING LET'S LET'S PULL OUT THE BULLDOZERS AND BUILD A NEW HIGH SCHOOL.
BUT WITH THE NUMBERS BEING 300 MILLION, IT'S JUST NOT.
AND WITH SEVEN HIGH SCHOOLS, IT'S JUST NOT.
BUT BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO YOU ALL ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A PLAN.
I MEAN, EVEN IF YOU REPLACED ONE HIGH SCHOOL EVERY SEVEN YEARS, IT'S GOING TO BE 50 YEARS BEFORE WE GET TO THE SEVENTH HIGH SCHOOL. AND IN 50 YEARS, OUR NEWEST HIGH SCHOOL IS GOING TO BE, WHAT, 70 YEARS OLD? SO WE HAVE TO START THINKING ABOUT THAT.
IT'S HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ADDRESS, FOR EXAMPLE, I MEAN, I KNOW FOLKS DON'T REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT, BUT HOW DO YOU ADDRESS CARR IN HIGH SCHOOL? WHAT DO YOU DO? WHAT DO YOU DO? IT'S SURROUNDED BY YOU HAVE LIKE THREE LANES OF TRAFFIC HERE AND THREE LANES OF TRAFFIC THERE AND SIX LANES OF TRAFFIC THERE.
HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THAT? DO YOU MOVE IT? DO YOU SAY WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT OVER ON ON PRESERVE THE FACADE AND MOVE THE BUILDING OVER TO TO TO GLENBROOK OR SOMETHING, MOVE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S THAT'S THE MULTI STEP PROCESS.
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WHAT DOES THAT LOOK TO THREE BOND CYCLES DOWN THE ROAD.DO YOU TAKE DO YOU MOVE DO YOU MOVE THE NETWORK OPERATIONS CENTER AND THE TRANSPORTATION FACILITY AND SOME OTHER THINGS AND CLEAR A BUNCH OF LAND THERE TO BUILD SOMETHING NEW THERE? DO YOU BUILD A HIGH SCHOOL THERE? I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THAT, BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE CHARGE TO YOU.
AND THAT'S DEFINITELY IN OUR MINDS.
NONE OF THESE PROJECTS THAT WE LOOKED AT, IT PAID.
I MEAN, I WILL TELL YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE NOT EXPLAINED TO MY TWO MIDDLE SCHOOL DRAMA DAUGHTERS YET THAT THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER DID NOT MAKE THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND SO ONE OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO EXPLAIN EXPLAIN THAT TO THEM.
I MEAN, IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S A ACTUALLY, I HAVE TOLD THEM IT'S A DIFFICULT CHOICE.
AND YOU TALK ABOUT THOSE KINDS OF CHOICES.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT IT'S A FACILITY THAT I DO HOPE WE SEE AND I THINK THERE'S A NEED FOR IT.
BUT WE HAVE TO WE HAD TO MAKE SOME CHOICES HERE.
THAT'S WHERE THE THAT'S WHERE THE COMMITTEE CAME DOWN ON IT.
YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS KNOW ALL THIS ARE OUR PREFERENCE IS GIVEN THE POTENTIAL CHANGES COMING FROM THE LEGISLATURE THAT YOU DO CALL AN ELECTION IN MAY, IT'S GOING TO BE A HEAVY LIFT.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF WORK.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF WORK FROM EVERYBODY BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET OVER THE STICKER SHOCK THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE WHEN YOU TELL THEM THAT THERE'S THIS IS THE BE ELECTION, THIS IS THIS IS OVER $1,000,000,000.
BUT I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT'S ALL THAT WE HAVE.
WE ARE HERE FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.
WERE YOUR QUESTIONS ONGOING? WE BOTH WANT TO BE CONTINUE TO BE VERY INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS AND WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL.
THANK YOU FOR FOR BEING PATIENT WITH US AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH IT.
THANK YOU BOTH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AND YOU, TOO, IN PARTICULAR, NOT ONLY FOR WHAT YOU'VE PRESENTED TO US THIS AFTERNOON, BUT FOR ENTRUSTING US WITH YOUR CHILDREN, WHICH I THINK IS THE BIGGEST THING THAT I CAN THANK YOU FOR. I ALSO AM A PARENT OF GISD STUDENTS, SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.
AND I'LL START WITH TRUSTEE BEACH.
FIRST OF ALL, THANK BOTH OF YOU.
YOUR MOTIVATION IS OUTSTANDING AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT FROM THE COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW, I'M JUST GOING TO SIT BACK GOING, OH BOY, ANOTHER BORING DEAL.
I KIND OF KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.
AND YOU GUYS REALLY LAID IT ON THE LINE HERE FOR US.
AND THANK YOU BOTH FOR SERVING ON THAT COMMITTEE AND LISTING ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED.
AND I TOO, VISITED ARLINGTON RIDGE THE DAY THAT YOU WERE THERE.
AND TODAY'S BUILDING COST IS COSTING ABOUT 43 NOW TO 54, A NEW ELEMENTARY.
SO THAT'S THE RISING COST THAT'S OUT THERE.
SO TO FILL THAT MAY THE 23RD IS A GREAT TIME TO CALL THIS BOND.
AND HOPEFULLY THE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
AND I THINK THE COMMITTEE SEES THAT URGENCY ALSO.
THE ONE THING ONE QUESTION I GUESS I WANT TO ASK MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE, DO YOU FEEL AS AS BEING COMMUNITY LAYS ON PEOPLE THAT THE PROCESS PREPARED YOU ENOUGH TO SELL THIS BOND PROGRAM TO THE COMMUNITY? DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT YOU WERE GIVING ENOUGH INFORMATION? I KNOW Y'ALL WENT QUICKLY THROUGH THOSE EIGHT WEEKS OR SIX WEEKS AND YOU HAD A TIMELINE THERE, BUT WAS THE PROCESS WHAT YOU EXPECTED AND WAS HOPING TO GET FROM IT? I WAS PRETTY I WAS PRETTY PRIMED TO SPEAK FOR HIMSELF, OF COURSE, BUT I WAS PRETTY PLEASED WITH THE PROCESS.
I FEEL THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT LEVEL OF INFORMATION.
YOU KNOW, IT'S SUPER EASY, BUT TO GIVE WAY IN THE WEEDS AND WHICH I'M TOTALLY NOT QUALIFIED FOR, YOU KNOW, AS I TELL PEOPLE, I'M JUST EITHER STUPID LAWYER OR STUPID POLITICIAN. I DON'T KNOW.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S SO EASY TO GET WAY IN THE WEEDS ON THIS STUFF.
I FELT LIKE WE GOT THE RIGHT LEVEL OF INFORMATION.
STUFF LIKE THAT. SO I FELT THAT THERE WAS AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION CLOSELY ENOUGH, BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY I MEAN, WE'RE READY TO I MEAN, WE'RE READY TO TAKE IT ON THE ROAD AND GO.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AND I GUESS.
YES, YEAH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE SELLING TICKETS, BUT KIND OF LEADING WHERE I WAS GOING BECAUSE FROM A STANDPOINT FROM GISD ON THE WAY THAT WE WILL MARKET THIS IN THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THE COMMUNITY GROUP ITSELF AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO MARKET IT, WE HAVE TO BE VERY MOTIVATED, JUST LIKE THIS COMMUNITY GROUP WAS.
AND SO IT'S GOING TO BE A PARTNERSHIP THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE CAN GET OUT IN MEETINGS WITH CLUB MEETINGS, WHATEVER, CHURCHES, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, THAT WE CAN ADVERTISE THIS. AND BECAUSE WHAT YOU GUYS LEARNED IN A SIX WEEK WINDOW OR EIGHT WEEK WINDOW TO GET THAT POINT ACROSS TO THE PEOPLE ABOUT THE NEW
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THAT THIS IS A LOT OF NEW STUFF IS COMING FORTH AND THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET.AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE.
THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL, ONE THING TO ADD ON TO THAT IS THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WAS INVOLVED, ROBINSON FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT'S LISTENING, IT WAS SO BROAD. THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE COMMITTEE, THERE WERE PEOPLE THERE WHO WERE AT THE TABLES WHO WERE PRETTY MUCH EXPERTS IN THOSE TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT, WELL, WHAT DOES THE PENNY GET YOU AND THIS AND THAT AND, YOU KNOW, AND KNOWING THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
SO THE THE SUPPORT IS THERE IN THE COMMITTEE IF WE TAP INTO IT.
SO, YES, THE ANSWER THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS YES, WE ARE PREPARED BECAUSE THE STUFF IF I DON'T KNOW IT, I KNOW I GOT SOMEONE THAT WAS SITTING AT THE TABLE WITH ME OR SITTING AT THE ADJACENT TABLE THAT DOES AND CAN DEFINITELY HELP GIVE US THE FEEDBACK.
BOARD. GENTLEMAN? MR. GRIFFIN. YES.
LET ME JUST SAY, I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU ALL A ROUND OF APPLAUSE.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATE OR INAPPROPRIATE, BUT YOU KNOW ME, SO.
BECAUSE NOT ONLY DID YOU COMMIT TO SIX WEEKS, BUT YOU HAVE STEPPED UP INTO A LEADERSHIP POSITION, AS YOU SEE THE PREVIOUS QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED OF YOU.
SO SHOULD WE MOVE FORWARD? YOUR WORK HAS ONLY JUST BEGUN.
AND I WILL TALK TO STAFF ABOUT SOME MORE DETAILS THAT I THINK SHOULD BE ON SOME OF THE PAGES.
JUST LIKE I GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF ONE WHEN WE CALL PROPOSITION B RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, THAT WORD GIVES ME HEARTBURN, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S CORRECT OR WHATEVER, BUT DETAILS NEED TO BE ADDED THERE.
DIMENSIONS AND ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
YOU CAN'T ASSUME THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S IN PLANO AND WHAT'S IN RICHARDSON.
SO A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS, BUT WE NEED TO ADD THE DETAILS THERE.
OKAY. SO THEN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PRIORITY ONES, LET ME GO BACK TO THE PAGE.
WHEN WE SAY THAT I DON'T HAVE A PAGE NUMBER WHEN IT SAYS PRIORITIES ONE THROUGH THREE AND MAJOR PROJECTS. WE STARTED WITH 3 BILLION.
WILL WE AS A BOARD KNOW WHICH OF THE PRIORITIES, ONES AND THREES THAT ARE NO LONGER INCLUDED? YOU DON'T HAVE TO. YOU KNOW, JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER BASICALLY TODAY BECAUSE WHEN WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL PRIORITY ONES, THAT MEANS THAT THE MASTER PLAN THAT WE HAD, EVERY PROJECT THAT WAS IN THERE, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.
SO I THINK IT JUST NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE CLARITY ON THAT.
AND THEN IF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE MASTER PLAN BOOK THAT WE HAD, IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO COMPLETE THOSE SCHOOLS TO THE LETTER OF THE DETAIL THAT'S IN THAT MASTER PLAN BOOK, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THE COSTS WERE DONE AND A LOT OF THIS YOU ALL CANNOT ANSWER.
BUT STAFF IS HERE. YOU ALL JUST STAND AND TAKING THIS.
OKAY. SO OUR STAFF IS IS BASICALLY HEARING THAT.
AND I THINK YOU ALL HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB.
AND I GUESS TO TO STAFF, I WILL ASK, DO WE KNOW WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO BE GIVEN US FOR TECHNOLOGY? IS THAT STILL IN THE WORKS? IS THAT STILL WHATEVER? SO IF THERE'S SOME RESEARCH BACK THERE, I CAN'T SEE YOU THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE DECIDED.
WE'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS FEDERALLY OF WHAT WE'RE BASICALLY WAS GOING TO DO FOR THAT.
SO THOSE WERE JUST MY OBSERVATION.
I DO WANT TO, IF I CAN THANK YOU.
TRUST YOU, GRIFFIN I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THAT AS WE LOOKED AT PRIORITY ONES, WE RELIED VERY HEAVILY ON STAFF REGARDING THAT JUST BECAUSE I MEAN, I AM MANY THINGS, BUT I DON'T KNOW MUCH OF ALL AT ALL ABOUT HVAC AND ELECTRIC AND STUFF.
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BUT I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU.I'M SAYING IT'S KIND OF HIGH POINTS, BUT THERE IS.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE MOST IMPRESSIVE THINGS TO ME.
YOU KNOW, THE THE THE WORKING ON THE CITY COUNCIL AND YOU THINK, OH, THE OPERATIONS OF THE CITY ARE VAST, BUT THEN YOU COME TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, YOU'RE LIKE, IT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF VAST IT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF DETAIL.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOMEBODY OUT HERE WHO KNOWS THAT IN AN IN AND OUTS OF LIKE EVERY I MEAN, IT BEING IT'S SO IMPRESSIVE STAFF THIS IS SO IMPRESSIVE BECAUSE YOU COULD BE LIKE SO TELL ME ABOUT THIS ELEMENTARY AND BOOM HERE'S THE LIST, HERE'S WHY AND HERE'S THIS AND HERE'S THAT.
OKAY. THANK YOU FOR CLARITY ON THAT.
THEN I WILL JUST REDIRECT THAT QUESTION TO DR.
LOPEZ AND HE WILL PROVIDE US THAT INFORMATION.
HE AND STAFF. ABSOLUTELY, MR. SELLERS. YES.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AND I AGREE WITH MR. BEACH AND MISS GRIFFIN.
JUST WANT TO GIVE A HUGE SHOUT OUT TO THEM FOR AVAILING THEMSELVES TO THE PROCESS AND BEING PREPARED TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND ASK THE QUESTIONS AND HAVE THE HARD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE VARIOUS PROJECTS THAT WERE YOU GUYS WERE PRESENTED WITH.
AND SO I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KIND OF HAVE YOUR PERSPECTIVE IN TERMS OF BASED ON THE PROPOSITION A, B AND C WITH IN THE CONTEXT OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE OFFER THAT YOU FELT WERE ATTRACTIVE TO PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN VERY MUCH ABOUT OUR PROGRAMS AND HOW FACILITIES COULD GO TO MATCH THAT.
WHAT IS IT WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THESE PROPOSITIONS THAT ALLOW US TO DO THAT? OK TAKE, FOR INSTANCE, THE AGG FACILITY AND THAT AND I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER PARTICIPATED IN FFA HER FINAL TWO YEARS.
AND WHEN WE WOULD GO TO COMPETITION, I NOTICED THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST THE, THE THINGS THAT THEY HAD AVAILABLE TO THEM AT OTHER SCHOOLS WERE SUPERIOR. YOU KNOW, IN A LOT OF WAYS WE'RE SUPERIOR TO WHAT WE HAD, YOU KNOW, OVER ON BRAND WHERE THAT STREET, WHATEVER STREET IS ON.
BEING ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE OUR OWN FACILITY WITH WHERE WE CAN HAVE COMPETITIONS, WHERE WE CAN HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO BE IT BECAUSE WE HAD TO WAIT TO THE SECOND SEMESTER TO EVEN GET INTO THE EGG BARN AND I HAD TO KEEP THE COWS AT HOME UNTIL THAT WAS THAT BECAME AVAILABLE.
AND ALSO TO EXPAND IT SO THAT MORE STUDENTS CAN PARTICIPATE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE GOT WE'RE GETTING BACK TO TO AGRI EDUCATION IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE WE GET OUR FOOD AND HELPING PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND GET GET CLOSE TO THAT, GET CLOSE TO THE LAND, GET CLOSE TO THE PRODUCTION OF FOOD IS GOING TO HELP THE COUNTRY GOING FORWARD.
THAT'S THAT'S ONE THING LIKE BICENTENNIAL.
LIKE I SAID, ONE THING IS WINDOWS.
BUT THERE ARE QUITE A FEW OTHER THINGS.
WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO ATTRACT PROFESSORS TO GET A FEW MORE CLASSES THERE.
ONE THING THAT WE MISSED THERE WAS FIT WAS PHYSICS.
WE DIDN'T HAVE A PHYSICS TEACHER.
SO THE IMPROVEMENTS AT THE SCHOOL AND THE PRIORITY ONES, IT'S GOING TO HANDLE THAT.
SOME OF THE I WOULD PRAY THAT'S GOING TO HANDLE SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
YOU GUYS GAVE A LOT OF COMPELLING REASONS WHY WE SHOULD SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE COMMUNITY SHOULD SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE STEERING COMMITTEE IS BRINGING FORWARD.
CAN YOU ENVISION OR THINK ABOUT ANY REASONS WHY SOMEONE WOULD NOT SUPPORT THIS?
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PROBABLY THE TAX.THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEONE WHO'S NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THEM.
I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I THINK SOME PEOPLE I MEAN, YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO SAY YOU'RE DOING TOO MUCH OR I DON'T WANT TO PAY ANY MORE IN TAXES OR I'D RATHER YOU.
RIGHT. THAT THERE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE PEOPLE WHO SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, IF I DON'T VOTE FOR ANY OF THIS, WILL MY TAX RATE GO DOWN? YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE THOSE PEOPLE.
DO I THINK THERE ARE ANY RATIONAL REASONS TO SAY NO? YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO QUESTION THE NEED.
THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO SAY, WELL, I DIDN'T NEED AN IPAD WHEN I WAS IN.
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE USE PAPER ALL THE TIME.
AND I WALKED UPHILL BOTH WAYS TO SCHOOL.
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SO WHAT IF THERE'S A LIGHTNING STORM, YOU KNOW, ON THE WAY? THEY'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, SO YOU'LL GET SOME DETRACTORS.
BUT I THINK THIS IS I HAVE NO PROBLEM AT ALL.
I THINK THIS IS FULLY SUPPORTABLE.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM GOING AROUND AND TALKING TO EVERYBODY ABOUT IT.
AND I THINK YOU'LL GET A LOT OF SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, GOING TO GET OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK THERE'LL BE THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE PEOPLE WHO WON'T SUPPORT IT.
BUT I THINK THESE I THINK THESE ARE ALL VERY GOOD, VERY REASONABLE AND FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE CHOICES.
AND WE DO HAVE SCHOOLS THAT ARE LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU PUT MONEY INTO THAT SCHOOL? YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SAYS, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND WE'RE GOING TO AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO TELL PEOPLE.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FUTURE BONDS AND WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE ALL THIS STUFF.
WE'RE GOING TO FIX THESE SCHOOLS.
IT'S WE REALIZE AND I THINK PEOPLE WANT THAT.
I THINK THEY SUPPORT IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, ONE OTHER THING IS THAT THEY MAY PEOPLE MAY HAVE HAD PROJECTS THAT THEY WERE EXPECTING TO BE IN THE BUILDING BECAUSE KIND OF WORD GOT OUT THAT CERTAIN THINGS WERE IN IT.
AND THEY MAY FIND THAT THEY'RE DISAPPOINTED THAT THAT IT WASN'T THERE.
AND THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE VISION THAT THIS BOARD HAS FOR GOING FORWARD WITH FUTURE PROJECTS WHEN THINGS MIGHT GET DONE IN THE FUTURE IF THEY HAVE NO VISION OR NO HOPE, ONTO WHEN THAT MIGHT.
YEAH, YOU MIGHT PUSH BACK BECAUSE THEY DON'T GET THEIR THING.
AND BECAUSE I KNOW THIS OTHER THING IS COMING IN THE FUTURE.
BUT THE REASON WHY I WAS WITH THE DIVERSITY IN TERMS OF BACKGROUNDS, AGE RANGES, GENDER, SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS, WHATEVER THE CASE, THE COMMITTEE WAS VERY DIVERSE.
AND SO WHAT WHAT MESSAGES OR WHAT CONVERSATIONS WERE HAD ABOUT THE MESSAGING TO COMMUNICATE TO THE COMMUNITY SO THAT THEY COULD SEE THE VALUE IN SUPPORTING THIS PARTICULAR BOND PROGRAM AND ALSO WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE MIGHT BE THOSE PROJECTS THAT THEY THOUGHT SHOULD BE INCLUDED. BUT NO, THAT WILL POTENTIALLY HAPPEN IN A DIFFERENT BOND CYCLE.
YOU KNOW, HOW THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT BRINGING EMPLOYERS INTO THE AREA BECAUSE YOU HAVE PARENTS THAT ARE MOVING INTO THE AREA THAT WE CAN ATTRACT, KNOW PEOPLE WITH OPTIONS, AND SO THAT MIGHT BRING THE JOBS BEHIND THEM.
YOU KNOW, WHEN LOOKING AT WHAT THE CITY IS PLANNING TO DO, IT'S ESPECIALLY SORT OF GARLAND TO HELP IMPROVE THE, YOU KNOW, THE LOOK AND FEEL OF THE OF OUR CITY AND HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PRESENTING PROGRAMS AND FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT STANDPOINT THAT KIND OF COMPLEMENT THAT, WHICH IS WHY, YOU KNOW, FREEMAN IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT BECAUSE IT ANCHORS THE CITY AND WE NEED TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, VERY PRESENTABLE SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE COME INTO THE CITY, THEY SEE A GREAT LOOKING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
SO I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WE TALKED ABOUT AT OUR TABLE.
THERE'S DEFINITELY THAT COMPONENT OF IT.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT TO SOME DEGREE THAT WE DIDN'T DO A LOT OF TALK ABOUT MESSAGING.
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WE'RE MOSTLY VERY FOCUSED ON THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS AND THE NEED.BUT THERE WAS SOME. TALK OF, YOU KNOW, REALIZING THAT THAT THEY'RE REACHING ALL THESE DIFFERENT CONSTITUENCIES, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THERE IS EQUITY ACROSS ALL THE CAMPUSES, MAKING SURE WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY FOCUSED ON AGG, WHO ARE VERY FOCUSED ON THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, AND THAT THESE WERE THINGS THAT WOULD BE GOOD, AS BRIAN WAS TALKING ABOUT, LIKE WITH FREEMEN AND OTHER STUFF.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, JUST LAST NIGHT I'M ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND SO I WAS I WAS THERE LAST NIGHT.
I ENDED UP TALKING WITH JACO SCHUSTER, WHO'S THE HEAD OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN GARLAND, AND SHE POSITIVELY SWOONED WHEN I TOLD HER THAT THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A NEW FREEMAN ELEMENTARY.
I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT STUFF IS GOING TO SELL.
BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE HAS TO BE THERE HAS TO COME KIND OF FROM YOU ALL THAT THAT THE BOARD HAS A VISION GOING FORWARD BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE FINE WITH IF YOU TELL THEM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE THIS NOW, YOU DIDN'T GET WHAT YOU WANT, BUT WE'RE COMING FOR YOU.
WE DIDN'T FORGET ABOUT YOUR WHETHER IT'S WHETHER IT'S AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OR A MIDDLE SCHOOL.
AND YOU'VE GOT I MEAN, AN ELEMENTARY PARENTS, BY THE WAY, TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I SEE MY SCHOOL LIBRARIAN SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK BECAUSE I SEE HER IN CAR LINE. IT'S LIKE, YES, YOU KNOW, KNOW, LET'S EVANGELIZE THIS STUFF AND LET PEOPLE UNDERSTAND.
THOSE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PARENTS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN THIS DISTRICT FOR A LONG TIME.
THEY HAVE A BIG STAKE GOING FORWARD AT ALL LEVELS.
AND I THINK THEY REALIZE THAT.
AND THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF BRYANT WAS TALKING ABOUT.
AND IN FACT, THEY WANT YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY.
THEY WANT MORE OPPORTUNITIES, THEY WANT MORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S LIKE, YEAH, BUT IF WE ATTRACT IF IF WE ATTRACT, IF WE'RE BUILDING SCHOOLS IN SUCH A WAY THAT THAT WE'RE THAT WE'RE ATTRACTING PEOPLE TO THE DISTRICT, WE'RE ATTRACTING BUSINESSES TO THE DISTRICT AREA, STUFF LIKE THAT, YOU'LL START TO SEE A LOT OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ACROSS THE BOARD.
AND THE OTHER THING IS, I WILL TELL YOU AND YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS KNOW THIS, WHEN YOU BUILD SOMETHING NEW, EVERYTHING AROUND IT, PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE TAKE A CIVIC PRIDE IN THAT. YOU KNOW, YOU PAVE SOMEBODY'S STREET AND EVERYBODY STARTS GOING OUT AND FIXING THEIR DRIVEWAYS.
YOU BUILD, YOU KNOW, YOU BUILD A YOU BUILD A BRAND NEW SCHOOL.
AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT KNOW, DAUGHTER IS GORGEOUS SCHOOL AND ALL AROUND IT, I THINK THERE'S BEEN IT HAS IMPROVED JUST NOT JUST CIVIC PRIDE, BUT PEOPLE IMPROVE THEIR HOMES AND OTHER STUFF.
AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, CANDIDLY, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T FEEL THAT GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES, WHETHER THEY BE SCHOOL DISTRICTS OR CITIES OR OTHER THINGS, THEY FEEL THAT THEY DON'T TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS, THEY DON'T DO THINGS.
AND SO PUSHING THAT PROGRESS, I THINK, IS GOING TO BE A BIG THING.
NOT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE HAPPY WITH IT.
I MEAN, I LOOK AT AN EXAMPLE FOR ME PERSONALLY IS THE SKATE PARK THAT THE CITY BILL, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, TALK ABOUT GOING HAMMER AND TONGS TO GET THAT BUILT, EVEN THOUGH IT HAD BEEN IMPROVED IN A BOND PROGRAM IN 2004.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPROVING THAT COMMUNITY EVERY TIME YOU GO DOWN THERE.
THERE ARE 100 KIDS SKATING THERE.
IT'S THE SECOND LARGEST ONE IN TEXAS.
AND I TELL PEOPLE THAT IT'S THE SECOND LARGEST ONE IN TEXAS, SIXTH LARGEST IN THE UNITED STATES.
AND YOU CAN SEE THEM SWELL WITH PRIDE.
THE FACT THAT, YEAH, YOU KNOW, YEAH, WE CAN HAVE NICE THINGS HERE.
WE'RE A GOOD COMMUNITY. WE CAN HAVE NICE THINGS, WE CAN TAKE CARE.
AND WE'RE FOCUSED ON TAKING CARE OF OUR KIDS AND TAKING CARE OF OUR FUTURE.
I THINK THERE'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY THERE.
THERE'S ONE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER IS THAT THE COMMITTEE WAS SO DIVERSE, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT WITH PEOPLE THAT RICH CAN'T, AND HE'LL BE ABLE TO CONNECT WITH PEOPLE THAT THAT I DON'T REACH.
BUT IT GOES WAY OVER WELL BEYOND THE TWO OF US.
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THERE WERE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, FROM PRETTY MUCH ALL THE WALKS OF LIFE THAT ARE IN.WE DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF A FAILED, BUT WE WANT TO BE A PART OF A SUCCESSFUL BOND.
SO AND THEY ARE WILLING TO DO IT.
SO IT'S NOT WE'RE JUST KIND OF THE TIP OF THE SPEAR, THE THE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND AND THE DIVERSITY OF THE PEOPLE BEHIND IT WILL BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S ASPECTS THAT PROBABLY PUSHES IT THROUGH.
SO I WOULD FEEL CONFIDENT ABOUT THAT.
I MEAN, I WASN'T ON THE BOARD WHEN THE 2014 BOND GOT PASSED.
BUT I GUESS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WILL WORK WITH THE CONSULTANT AND YOUR STAFF TO FIGURE OUT.
GRIFFIN JUST JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, AT THE VERY END OF THE PROCESS, WHAT WE DID IS WE SAID IF YOU WANT TO COMMIT TO THE NEXT PART OF THE PROCESS, IF IT GOES THROUGH BY THE BOARD, WE GOT ALL THE ONES THAT WANTED TO COMMIT.
SO IT WASN'T JUST TAKING FOR GRANTED THAT YOU CAME AND WE'RE GOING TO CALL YOU.
WE MADE THEM WRITE IT DOWN AND WE HAVE A NICE BIG LIST NOW THAT WILL TRANSFER TO THE PAC, RIGHT? SO THE THE POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE WILL WORK WITH IT WITH THE CONSULTANT.
AND THEN THE PAC CAN GO AHEAD AND CREATE THE ADVOCACY GROUPS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
BUT EVERYBODY WILL NOT HAVE TO BE ON THE PAC TO PARTICIPATE.
SO. RIGHT. NOT EVERYBODY HAS TO BE PART OF THE PAC TO PARTICIPATE.
YES. SO THOSE THINGS DON'T NECESSARILY CONVERT INTO A PAC.
AND WITH VISION FOR THE FUTURE.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WE DID IN 2014.
AND IF WE HAVE PEOPLE STANDING READY TO WORK, OUR CHALLENGE IS.
HOW DO WE PASS A SUCCESSFUL BOND? SO THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE HAVE TO HOLD ON NECESSARILY TO THE PASS BECAUSE IT'S GONE.
SO WE HAVE A WHOLE DIFFERENT PROCESS, A WHOLE NEW SET OF INDIVIDUALS.
AND I WOULD JUST SAY, LET'S JUST SEE WHAT WE NEED TO DO NEXT RIGHT NOW.
AND, YOU KNOW, YEAH, I MEAN, MY QUESTION WASN'T I KNOW, BUT I'M GEARED TOWARDS THAT.
YEAH. BUT I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS OF WHAT WE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO GOING FORWARD.
I MEAN, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING, I MEAN, BECAUSE I WASN'T A PART OF THAT PROCESS.
AND THEN WHAT THAT CONVERSATION NEEDED TO BE, YOU KNOW, FROM A MESSAGING STANDPOINT TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, YOU AND I CAN TALK OFFLINE, BUT FOR UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND WHAT I'M SAYING IS I GET YOUR POINT.
IT'S NOW. AND THE COMMITTEE SUPPORTED IT.
I MEAN, THERE WAS I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY DISSENSION IN THE ROOM.
THERE WAS DEFINITELY NOTHING EXPRESSED REALLY LOUDLY.
AND FROM MY RECOLLECTION THAT WE APPLAUDED AT THE END, WE THOUGHT WE DID A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH WITH, YOU KNOW, BALANCING AND STAYING FISCALLY SOUND AND, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE TOP PRIORITIES.
AND WE SAW THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T GET.
BUT HOPEFULLY THE BOARD WILL CREATE THAT VISION TO FOR A PIPELINE GOING FORWARD.
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT IT. I MEAN, I WILL TELL YOU THAT IF YOU TELL SOMEONE WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A 1.2 BILLION OR $1.3 BILLION NUMBER, THEY'RE GOING TO THINK YOU'RE INSANE.
THEY'RE GOING TO CHOKE ON THAT NUMBER.
AND THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO GET OUT THERE, GET AS MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE NOW TALKING TO PEOPLE ABOUT THAT NUMBER, TALKING ABOUT HOW IT BREAKS DOWN, EXPLAINING THE NEED, EXPLAINING THE FACT THAT YOU GET TO THAT NUMBER AND YOUR TAXES ARE NOT GOING TO QUADRUPLE.
THAT'S GOING TO BE OVERCOMING THAT INITIAL OBJECTION, WHICH IS ANOTHER REASON.
BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REACH OUT TO THOSE SPECIFIC VOTERS AND EDUCATE THEM BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, MY OWN INITIAL RESPONSE WAS I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO CHOKE ON THE NUMBER. BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE CITY PASSED ITS $425 MILLION BOND, WE PASSED IT WITH A WITH A TRANSPARENT STATEMENT OF AND WHEN YOU APPROVE THIS, WE'RE RAISING YOUR TAXES EIGHT AND ONE HALF CENTS AND IT'S STILL GOT APPROVED.
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THAT HAPPEN. AND SO ALL OF YOU ALL ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COMMIT TO GO INTO A LOT OF RIBBON CUTTINGS, A LOT OF GROUNDBREAKING THINGS, A LOT OF OTHER THINGS, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO SHOW PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE PULLING THE PROJECTS OUT OF THE GROUND, THAT YOU'RE SERIOUS ABOUT IT.RIGHT? YOU HAVE TO GO OUT THERE AND YOU HAVE TO SAY, YOU TOLD US WE COULD DO THIS.
AND SO WE'RE DOING IT. WE'RE LISTENING TO WHAT YOU SAID.
WE'RE PULLING THESE PROJECTS OUT OF THE GROUND.
AND YOU GUYS DID THAT. I MEAN, I GOT TO TELL YOU, YOU DID THAT WITH THE 2014 PROGRAM.
I HAVE TO TELL YOU, SEEING THE NATATORIUM, WHICH I KNOW WAS DIFFICULT, SEEING THAT COME OUT OF THE GROUND AND BE A WORLD CLASS FACILITY, WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE WITH THIS FACILITY FROM THE PRIOR BOND? I MEAN, YOU GUYS HAVE OR WITH THE WITH THE CULWELL CENTER AND YOU GUYS HAVE A HISTORY.
THE DISTRICT HAS A GOOD HISTORY OF DOING THAT.
BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE, I THINK, REALLY IMPORTANT.
IT'S LIKE WE'RE DOING THIS STUFF AND WE REALLY MEAN IT.
WE'RE GOING TO TEAR UP EVERYTHING.
WE'RE GOING TO TEAR IT ALL UP. WE'RE BUILDING NEW THINGS AND IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND I THINK IT'LL BE A LOT OF FUN, HONESTLY, BECAUSE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE HERE FOR.
MS.. STANLEY. THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE PRESENTATION.
MY QUESTIONS WOULD REALLY BE MORE TOWARDS DR.
LOPEZ AND THE STAFF, BECAUSE THIS IS THIS IS A GREAT 90,000 VIEW.
LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO.
BUT IT'S NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION FOR ME.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GO ABOUT GETTING A LOWER I DON'T NEED THE THE TOTAL WEEDS.
BUT THIS IS A VERY HIGH LEVEL LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
AND SO I JUST NEED SOME HELP IN IN MAKING SURE THAT I HAVE A GOOD GRASP OF REALLY TRULY, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, WE HAVE TO LEARN FROM HISTORY.
AND I THINK THAT WE'RE NOT VERY GOOD AT LEARNING FROM HISTORY.
I STILL HEAR A LOT OF DISTRUST IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT IT.
AND SO THAT TO ME, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, IS ONE OF THE HUGE STEPPING BLOCKS THERE'S GOING TO BE A STUMBLING BLOCK FOR US, IS THAT WE HAVE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET TO OUR TAX PAYERS, WHICH IS GOING TO BE, IN MY OPINION, THE ONES THAT YOU HEAR THE MOST ABOUT THAT HAVE HEARTBURN FOR WHATEVER REASON. I'M NOT HERE TO DECIDE TO GO OVER WHAT HAPPENED IN 2014, BUT THEY STILL DON'T FEEL THAT THEY GOT EVERYTHING THAT WAS PROMISED TO THEM IN THE BOND. I MEAN, WHEN WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE, PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE TAKEN CARE OF THE AIR CONDITIONING AND THE 2014 BOND EDUCATION.
I'M NOT SAYING WE'VE DONE ANYTHING WRONG, BUT THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT IF SOMEONE SAID THAT TO ME AND THEY DID, I JUST HAD TO SHRUG MY SHOULDER AND SAY, I'LL GET BACK TO YOU BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE PROMISING.
I'M A VERY HIGH LEVEL LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE PROMISING.
BUT THAT'S IT. AND I'M THRILLED TO DEATH THAT WE HAVE CONCENTRATED SO HEAVILY ON FACILITIES BECAUSE I MYSELF FEEL THAT I DON'T CARE WHAT OUR PROGRAMS ARE IN OUR OUR FACILITIES.
NO PARENT IS GOING TO WALK INTO A LOT OF OUR FACILITIES.
SO I'M THRILLED THAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT OUR FACILITIES.
MR. PRESIDENT, CAN I DO CLARITY? WELL, YEAH, I DO WANT TO COMMENT THAT THIS THESE ARE REALLY SUPPOSED TO BE FOR QUESTIONS FOR TWO BOND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
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NOT REALLY. NOT NECESSARILY.NOT NOT NOT TO KIND OF STAY WHERE WE ARE OR TAKE OUR TEMPERATURE ON THESE THINGS.
IT'S SO WE HAVE THEM HERE NOW.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET IT OUT NOW.
BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE WE'RE NOT DONE WITH THIS ISSUE.
THIS IS WE'RE TAKING A VOTE HERE IN LIKE 5 MINUTES.
SO SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. AUBIN AND MR..
GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AND I'D LIKE TO ALSO THANK ALL THE OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
IT WAS A LOT OF WORK, AND I KNOW YOU DID A LOT OF HOMEWORK OUTSIDE OF THOSE MEETINGS.
SO THANK YOU. AND I THINK, MR. PRESIDENT, WE ARE GOING TO BE HAVING A VERY LENGTHY DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS IN TWO WEEKS.
THAT'S ON THE AGENDA, I BELIEVE.
SO I'LL SAVE ANY QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR THAT.
BUT AGAIN, GENERAL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. AUBURN? MR. ROBINSON.
FROM THE BOTTOM OF OUR HEARTS.
I MEAN, WE CANNOT THANK THIS COMMITTEE ENOUGH FOR WHAT THEY DO.
AND I WOULD BE REMISS ACTUALLY, AS WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS.
OUR OVERALL FACILITATOR WAS GREG MCINTYRE, WHO'S HERE, WHO DID A GREAT PROCESS OF KIND OF DESIGNING HOW WE WENT THROUGH THIS AND GETTING US THE INFORMATION AND THE PROCESS.
WE'RE HERE FOR YOU AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
AND MR. JOHNSON AND MR. ROBIN NOTED THIS. GREG MCINTYRE WITH TRENTON FOR WHO WAS OUR FACILITATOR, IS HERE AND BACK AT THE ROOM.
LIKE GREG MCINTYRE IS MY LIKE, MUSE WITH RESPECT TO MY BEARD GROWING, TRYING TO CATCH HIM.
I DON'T THINK I'M EVER GOING TO MAKE IT, BUT I'LL GIVE IT A GO.
ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THREE BE DISCUSSED THE GARLAND ISD BOND ELECTION SUMMARY DR.
[III.B. Discuss the Garland ISD Bond Election Summary - Dr. Brent Ringo ]
RINGO.MR. JOHNSON, BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
DR. LOPEZ. GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN.
THIS IS YOU HEARD OUR CO CHAIRS PRESENT ON THE RECOMMENDED PACKAGE AND A DOLLAR AMOUNT.
THIS LEADS RIGHT INTO THE SUMMARY PRESENTATION OF THE IMPACT OF VARIOUS BOND CAPACITY AMOUNTS AND THE TAX RATE AT 2025 AND 30 YEARS.
AND WITH THAT, I HAVE GEORGE WILLIFORD, OUR DISTRICT'S FINANCIAL ADVISOR WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES.
AND AGAIN, I CANNOT THANK HIM AND ERIC MARJO ENOUGH WITH THE WORK THEY'VE DONE FOR THIS PROCESS BECAUSE IT'S CREATED A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT TAX RATES, IMPACT, BOND CAPACITY, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
AND SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO.
IT'S 439 AND WE'RE GOING TO GO OFF THE RECORD BRIEFLY.
AND WE ARE BACK FROM A BRIEF RECESS.
I THINK THE TECHNICAL ISSUES THAT WE HAD HAVE BEEN RESOLVED DR.
RINGO YOU CAN GET BACK TO WHERE YOU LEFT OFF AND DISCUSSION ITEMS THREE B.
MR. JOHNSON. AND BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
DOC LOPEZ. GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN.
JUST IN CASE OF TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, I WILL START BACK OVER.
AND WITH THAT YOU SAW A DOLLAR AMOUNT OF A LITTLE LESS THAN 1.2 BILLION.
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NOTED GEORGE WILLEFORD WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES HAVE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE AND RESPONSIVE TO THIS PROCESS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION DISCUSSIONS AND IT REQUIRES A LOT OF CALCULATIONS AND ANALYSIS TO GET THAT DONE.AND SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO GEORGE WILLIFORD WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES.
DR. LOPEZ, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
PLEASURE TO BE BACK BEFORE YOU.
AND YOU SHOULD HAVE A HARD COPY OF WHAT I BELIEVE IS PROJECTED ON THE SCREEN.
AS THE COMMITTEE CHAIRS INDICATED, WE MET WITH THE COMMITTEE AT THE END OF NOVEMBER IN A MEETING AND HAD A MUCH MORE EXTENSIVE PRESENTATION AND WENT INTO A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE DISTRICT'S DEBT POSITION, CREDIT POSITION, WHICH IS EXCELLENT. AS YOU KNOW, THE DISTRICT IS RATED TRIPLE-A BY MOODY'S, DOUBLE A-PLUS BY S&P, THE HIGHEST RATINGS THEY OFFER DISTRICTS IN TEXAS.
ALSO COMPARATIVE INFORMATION WITH RESPECT TO DEBT BURDEN, TAX RATE AND SO ON RELATIVE TO OTHER LARGE DISTRICTS IN THE AREA AND IN THE STATE AND SO ON.
RINGO SAID, WE'VE FOR THE LAST LITERALLY FEW MONTHS BEEN RUNNING A LOT OF ITERATIONS OF MODELS RELATIVE TO AMOUNTS, ASSUMED LENGTH OF THE BOND PROGRAM AS FAR AS ISSUANCE AND SO ON.
AND THEN AS FAR AS TODAY, WHAT I'M WHAT WE HAVE FOR YOU IS REALLY JUST THE IMPACT CONNECTED WITH FOUR SPECIFIC BOND AUTHORIZED AMOUNTS.
SO WITH THAT, IF WE CAN LOOK, THE FIRST QUESTION WE HAD WAS WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH LITERALLY ZERO TAX IMPACT AS FAR AS THE INS RATE, THE CURRENT IRS RATES 31.7 $0.09 PER 100, AND THESE MODELS ARE VERY CONSERVATIVE.
I WANT TO POINT OUT A FEW FACTORS.
FIRST, WE RAN 20 YEAR, 25 YEAR AND 30 YEAR REPAYMENT FOR EACH SERIES OR ISSUE FROM THE AUTHORIZATION, BUT YOU'LL SEE KIND OF MIDDLE OF THE PAGE. THEY ASSUMED INTEREST RATES RANGE DEPENDING ON THE TERM FROM FIVE AND A QUARTER TO 5.95.
THOSE ARE EASILY 100 BASIS POINTS OR SLIGHTLY MORE THAN CURRENT INTEREST RATES.
OF COURSE, WE ALL KNOW WHAT INTEREST RATES HAVE DONE OVER THE LAST YEAR AND STILL A LOT OF UNKNOWNS.
SO WE TRY TO BE CONSERVATIVE FROM THAT ASPECT.
THEN YOU'LL NOTE DOWN AT NUMBER FOOTNOTE NUMBER FOUR THAT WE'RE ASSUMING ONLY 3% GROWTH IN THE TAXABLE ASSESSED VALUE FOR TWO YEARS AND THEN 2% FOR THE NEXT THREE.
SO ONLY GROWTH SCENARIO AS FAR AS TAXABLE VALUE FOR FIVE YEAR PERIOD.
ONE THING BEING REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE WANT TO ASSURE THAT THERE'S SUFFICIENT PRINCIPAL BEING RETIRED WITH RESPECT TO EACH ISSUE AND THE OVERALL AUTHORIZATION TO ACCOMMODATE IN PARTICULAR TECHNOLOGY PURPOSES.
SO THAT PRINCIPLE IS BEING RETIRED AND NOT CONTENDING THAT TECHNOLOGY OR SHORTER LIFE EQUIPMENT IS STRETCHED OUT OVER SOME PERIOD OF TIME AND SO ON.
IN EACH CASE THAT I'LL GO OVER WITH YOU.
SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, IF THERE'S AN ELECTION IN MAY THAT SUCCESSFUL, THE ASSUMPTION WOULD BE THAT THE FIRST ISSUE WOULD OCCUR IN SUMMER OF 23 AND THEN THE NEXT THREE SUMMERS ANNUAL ISSUANCE OF REALLY EVEN AMOUNTS.
WE'VE JUST SPLIT THE AUTHORIZATION INTO FOUR.
SO GIVEN ALL THAT, WHAT YOU'LL SEE, GIVEN ALL THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE'VE MADE, THAT ON A 20 YEAR REPAYMENT WITH RESPECT TO EVERY ISSUE, THE CAPACITY WITH NO TAX INCREASE IS SLIGHTLY OVER 900 MILLION.
IF THE REPAYMENT FOR EACH SERIES IS STRETCHED TO 25, YOU CAN SEE THE CAPACITY IN THAT CASE BANDS TO 983 TO 984 MILLION.
THAT'S IN THE COLUMN THAT'S BOXED IN.
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DIMINISHING RETURN, THERE'S BENEFIT, AND IN FACT, IT'S BECOME MAYBE MORE THE NORM FOR DISTRICTS AS NEEDS AND COST HAVE GROWN TO NOT BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN A 20 YEAR REPAYMENT PROGRAM THAT THAT'S KIND OF OLD SCHOOL OR USED TO BE THE NORM.BUT MOST DISTRICTS HAVE GONE FIRST TO 25 AND THEN GIVEN THE EXTENT OF NEEDS TO 30.
BUT YOU GET MORE BENEFIT AS FAR AS CAPACITY AND LOWERED IMPACT BY THAT STEP FROM 20 TO 25.
THEN YOU DO BY GOING THAT ADDITIONAL FIVE YEARS ON OUT TO 30.
IF THAT MAKES SENSE. BUT HOPEFULLY YOU'LL SEE THAT HERE IN A MOMENT.
SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS TRIED TO MEASURE THAT AND REFLECT THE IMPACT WITH RESPECT TO, LIKE I SAID, A BILLION, BILLION, 1,000,000,002 AND 1,000,000,003 AUTHORIZED AMOUNT FIRST. MY SCREEN JUST WENT BLANK.
IF IT'S OKAY, I'LL JUST REFERENCE THE HARD COPY.
BUT ON THE SECOND PAGE OF SCHEDULES, IT'S ACTUALLY PAGE THREE AT THE BOTTOM.
AND YOU'LL NOTE THAT THE INCREASE OVER ON THE FAR RIGHT HAND SIDE FOR A 20 YEAR REPAYMENT WOULD BE 2.4 $0.04 ABOVE THAT, TAKING THE TAX RATE TO 34.23 PENNIES PROJECTED.
IF THE REPAYMENT WAS 25 YEARS, THERE'D BE VIRTUALLY NO INCREASE TO SUPPORT $1,000,000,000.
SO WELL UNDER A HALF A PENNY OVERALL IMPACT RATE WOULD JUMP TO ROUGHLY 32.16 DOWN IN THE BOTTOM.
WHAT WE'VE DONE IS SHOWED THE IMPACT ON INDIVIDUAL HOME OWNERS, OUR HOME VALUES AND IN TAXES.
AND THAT'S REGARDLESS OF THE VALUE OF YOUR HOME.
SO YOU CAN'T REALLY TAKE $100,000 HOME AND EXTRAPOLATE EASILY BECAUSE IT'S 40,000 REGARDLESS.
BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE IS DEDUCT THAT.
AND WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS THE TAXABLE VALUE.
AND THE AVERAGE, WE'VE BEEN TOLD IS AROUND 260,000 IN THE DISTRICT.
SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT REPRESENTS A $300,000 MARKET VALUE HOME AND IN THAT CASE, THE AVERAGE HOME VALUE FOR THE 20 YEAR REPAYMENT AT 2.4 $0.04, YOU CAN SEE THEIR ANNUAL TAX BILL WOULD GO UP ROUGHLY $63 OR ABOUT $5 A MONTH. AND IF IT WAS ONLY 25, IF IT WAS 25 YEAR REPAYMENT, THEY'D ONLY HAVE, LIKE I SAID, A VERY NOMINAL $9 INCREASE IN THEIR TAX BILL.
IF YOU MOVE TO THE NEXT PAGE, THIS IS A BIG AND ONE AND THEY'VE BEEN OVER TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE 20 YEAR REPAYMENT, THE INCREASE IS VIRTUALLY DOUBLED FROM 2.44 TO 4.88.
WHAT WE FOUND, GIVEN THE WAY WE WERE STRUCTURING DEBT ON THE 20 YEAR REPAYMENT FOR EVERY $100 MILLION OF INCREASED OVERALL AUTHORIZATION, THE INCREASE IN THE REQUIRED TAX RATE WAS 2.4 $0.04 PER 100 MILLION.
IN THE CASE OF A 25 YEAR REPAYMENT, THE INCREASE PER 100 MILLION DIFFERENCE IN THE AUTHORIZATION IS 2.2 $0.03. SO A LITTLE OVER A 20.2 CENT BENEFIT ARE LESS IMPACT WITH RESPECT TO GO INTO THAT 25 YEAR REPAYMENT.
AND THEN IF IT STRETCHED OUT TO 30 YEARS, THE ANNUAL OR THE INCREASE IS 2.13 PER 100 MILLION.
SO YOU SEE YOU DON'T GET QUITE AS MUCH BENEFIT AS DROP FOR HIS DROP.
BUT IN THIS CASE, FOR 1.1 BILLION AVERAGE HOME OWNER, THE ANNUAL BILL WOULD BE $126 INCREASE OR ABOUT $10.57 PER MONTH AT A 20 YEAR REPAYMENT.
AND THEN 425 THE INCREASE WOULD BE 67.62 OR ABOUT 5.63.
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VERSUS TRYING TO RESTRICT IT TO A 20 YEAR REPAYMENT.THE NEXT PAGE IS A 1.2 BILLION PROGRAM AND AGAIN, ON THE FAR RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE OVERALL INCREASE ASSOCIATED WITH A 20 YEAR REPAYMENT WOULD BE 7.3 CENTS.
FOR A 25, IT WOULD BE 4.83 OR UNDER A NICKEL.
AND AGAIN, DOWN ON THE AVERAGE HOME VALUE.
YOU CAN SEE FOR MY AVERAGE HOMEOWNER, THE ANNUAL BILL WOULD GO UP ABOUT $190 OR 15.8 $0.06 PER MONTH OR $125 OR ABOUT $10.50 A MONTH IF IT WERE 25 YEAR.
AND THE LAST MODEL THAT WE RAN IN THIS CASE WAS FOR 1,000,000,003 OVERALL PROGRAM.
AND UP AT THE TOP AND FAR RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU SEE THAT THE INCREASE AT A 20 YEAR REPAYMENT IS NEARLY $0.10, 9.7 $0.06 OVERALL PROJECTED WITH ASSUMED 25 YEAR REPAYMENT SEVEN POINT CENTS ABOVE 7.0 $0.07 ABOVE THE 31.79.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT ASSUMING 25 YEAR REPAYMENT VERSUS.
FOR AN AVERAGE HOMEOWNER, WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN IS IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT 20 YEAR ASSUMED REPAYMENT, THEIR BILL WOULD GO UP ABOUT $253 IN THIS CASE OR OVER $20 A MONTH.
BUT IF WE WERE STRUCTURING EVERYTHING BASED ON AN ASSUMED 25.
THE INCREASE THAT YOU WOULD COMMUNICATE WOULD BE $183 OR SLIGHTLY OVER $15 PER MONTH.
THE LAST THING THAT WE PREPARED AND IT WAS EMPHASIZED BY THE CHAIRS IS THE ELECTION CALENDAR.
AND AS YOU'RE WELL AWARE OF, FEBRUARY 17TH IS THE LATEST DATE TO CALL THE MAY ELECTION.
AND I AGREE 100% WITH THEM THAT GIVEN GOVERNOR ABBOTT'S TAXPAYER BILL OF RIGHTS, AS WELL AS THE LEGISLATOR LEGISLATURE GOING INTO SESSION, IF IT'S NOT A FEBRUARY BUT A NOVEMBER, ARE LATER ELECTION VERY LIKELY BE SUBJECT TO A LOT DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS AND PROCESS.
BUT WITH THAT, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD BOARD MEMBERS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. WILLIFORD, REGARDING THE ISSUES THAT ARE CONTAINED IN THIS BOARD MEMBERS? QUICK QUESTION. WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL FOR WHEN WE MEET IN JANUARY TO HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN IF WE KEPT THIS, THE RECOMMENDED AMOUNT FROM THE COMMITTEE, HOW MUCH IT WOULD BE FOR JUST PROPOSITION A ON THE 20 2530 PROPOSITION BE WHAT THE INCREASE WOULD BE IF THAT BECAUSE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THAT EFFECTIVELY IS AN AGGREGATE TO THE TAX RATE FOR EACH PROPOSITION THAT GOES THROUGH.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THE TAX IMPACT ON EACH OF THOSE IF EVERYTHING STAYED THE SAME? YES. YES.
COULD WE HAVE THAT FOR THE 24TH, PLEASE? AND I ACTUALLY HAVE ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT WITH RESPECT TO.
AND I NOTICED WITH RESPECT TO THE BOND COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION, IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE FIVE ON THIS SHEET, THAT'S RELATIVELY CLOSE TO WHAT THE BOND COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION IS. IT'S $1.2 BILLION BOND ELECTION AMOUNT.
THE RECOMMENDATION IS JUST SHY OF 1.2.
AND I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT THAT MR. WILLIFORD DID A GREAT JOB OF PRESENTING THE RATES PER 101,000 EVALUATION.
FOR INSTANCE, IF IF WE WERE TO DO 1.25 BILLION, THAT WOULD EFFECTIVELY END UP BEING A 0.0595 INCREASE ABOVE THE CURRENT TAX RATE BECAUSE YOU TAKE THAT AT A 25 YEAR REPAYMENT, BECAUSE YOU TAKE THAT TO 23 AND DIVIDE IT IN HALF EFFECTIVELY, RIGHT? YES, SIR. OKAY. SO FROM THAT, THAT'S THE INFORMATION YOU GUYS NEED IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF ARITHMETIC AND FIGURE A LITTLE BIT OF THIS OUT ON YOUR OWN.
I MEAN, I THINK THIS REALLY GIVES US EVERYTHING WE NEED TO KNOW.
DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO ADD? MR. GLICK? YEAH.
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20, 25 AND 30 YEARS, AND I THINK I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT ALSO.THANK YOU. CAN I HAVE AN EXTENSION TO THAT QUESTION? BECAUSE ON THE INTEREST RATE ON THIS, IS THAT IS THAT RIGHT BETWEEN EACH FIVE YEARS IS ONLY A QUARTER OF A PERCENT DIFFERENCE FROM THE LOWS AND HIGHS FOR SO SO I'M LOOKING AT 5.25 AT THE LOWEST AND THEN IT GOES 5.5 TO 5.75.
THAT'S IS THAT IS IT REALLY THAT CONSTRAINED OR IS CAN YOU WHAT THE WAY WE STRUCTURED THAT AND THE WAY INTEREST RATES ON BONDS ARE THERE ON A SCALED SITUATION ACCORDING TO THE YIELD CURVE.
NOT A LOT, BUT THE REASON WHY SO MUCH LOWER IT COMPARED TO OTHER MODELS, LET'S SAY IN THE COMMERCIAL MARKET, LIKE FOR HOUSING AND STUFF LIKE THAT. WELL, AS I SAID, CURRENTLY TAX EXEMPT RATES ON A 20 YEAR DEBT, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT SOMEWHERE AROUND FOUR OR SLIGHTLY OVER 4%.
AND AROUND A LITTLE UNDER FOUR AND A QUARTER FOR 25.
SO THESE ARE ABOUT 100 OVER PLUS.
MR. BEACH, JUST REAL QUICKLY, JUST SO I HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING ON THE ON PAGE FIVE WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TAXABLE HOME VALUE AFTER EXEMPTION, IS THAT FIGURE, THE 260,000, IS THAT THE FIGURES FOR THE ANNUAL AND MONTHLY THEY'RE BELOW IT.
IT'S ACTUALLY CALCULATED ON THE 260.
THEY GET THE MANDATORY 40,000 EXEMPTION SO THAT THEIR TAXABLE VALUE IS 260,000.
SO YOU TAKE THE TAX RATE IN THIS CASE, THE FOR EXAMPLE, THE 25 YEAR RATE INCREASE OF 4.8 $0.03, AND YOU CALCULATE THAT BASED ON THE 260,000 FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
THANK YOU. MR. SELLERS. THANK YOU.
YOU MADE A POINT TO MENTION EARLIER THAT MOST DISTRICTS HAVE GONE TO TERM BASE TO 25 OR 30 YEARS BASED ON THE NEED AND THE CAPACITY SIZE. SO ASIDE FROM PAYING MORE INTEREST, WHAT ARE THE OTHER BENEFITS OF OR MORE INTERESTING THAN HAVING INCREASED BOND CAPACITY? WHAT ARE THE OTHER BENEFITS OF EXTENDING THE TERM TERMS OF 25 OR 30 VERSUS GOING 20 YEARS? THE BENEFIT OF EXTENDING, IT'S REALLY JUST PRIMARILY AFFORDABILITY.
AND AS MR. GLICK ASKED THAT THE OVERALL INTEREST OVER 20 YEARS VERSUS 25, THE AGGREGATE AMOUNT WOULD BE A LOWER DOLLAR FIGURE.
OKAY. THANK YOU. 111 CLARIFICATION.
BUT DOES THAT DOES THIS RATE KEEP UP WITH THE AGGREGATE THAT'S HAPPENING ON INFLATION RATES? SO YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT'S A BENEFIT, BUT I THINK IT'S MORE THAN BOND CAPACITY.
TALKING TO OTHER SUPERINTENDENTS, IT'S THIS DOESN'T COMPETE WITH THE AMOUNT OF INFLATION OUT THERE.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO GET MORE BANG FOR YOUR BUCK.
FOR INSTANCE, WHEN WE SAW THE 2017 SCHOOL THAT WAS BUILT FOR 900 KIDS, IT WAS 27 MILLION.
NOW WE'RE LOOKING IN THE MID FIFTIES FOR SCHOOL OF 750 SMALLER BUT OVER TWICE THE AMOUNT.
SO IS THERE A WAY WE CAN LOOK AT THAT COMPARISON SO WE CAN MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION? WELL, I THINK MAYBE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS IF YOU HELD TO 20 MILLION, SO WE NOT ONLY FOR THE TAX RATE, OUR 20 YEARS A TAX RATE OF X, THEN YOU'D ONLY BE ABLE TO AFFORD SO MANY DOLLARS.
WHEREAS IF YOU STRETCH IT OUT TO 30 YEARS, YOUR CAPACITY GOES UP AND YOU DO THAT DOES MAKE YOU ABLE TO BUY IN THAT LEVEL OF IMPROVEMENTS AT TODAY'S COST VERSUS AND WHAT WE CAN'T AFFORD IT, WE GOT TO PUT IT OFF, IN OTHER WORDS, AND BEEN SUBJECT TO INFLATION BY DELAY.
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IS THAT ANOTHER REASON WHY SCHOOL DISTRICTS MAY GO TO A 25 OR 30? BECAUSE IT'S MORE BENEFICIAL IN SOME WAY THAT WE'RE NOT SEEING IT? IF YOU STRUCTURE THE DEBT PROPERLY AND STILL HAVE DECLINES OVER TIME, THEN YOU MAINTAIN AND PRESERVE THAT CAPACITY TO LAYER NEW PROGRAMS ON WITHOUT AS SIGNIFICANT AN INCREASE AT SOME POINT IN TIME.WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO GET INTO IS A SITUATION WHERE YOU KNOW YOU'VE LEVELED OUT YOUR DEBT SERVICE OR ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE FOR 15 OR 20 YEARS WHERE WHATEVER YOU DO IS JUST A PURE INCREASE AND YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE DECLINES OCCURRING LIKE IS THE STRUCTURE NOW, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO IS THERE A SCENARIO THAT YOU CAN THINK OF WHERE SCHOOL DISTRICTS MAY GO 20 YEARS ONE AND THEN 25 ANOTHER AND THEN THE 30, OR DO THEY GO STRAIGHT 2530? NOW WHAT IS WHAT IS THE TRENDS YOU'RE SEEING? THE DISTRICTS THAT I WORK WITH AND MOST I'M AWARE OF OTHERWISE, ONCE THEY'VE MOVED FROM A SHORTER AMORTIZATION TO A LONGER THAN THEY STAY WITH THAT. AND IF ANYTHING, OVER TIME, GIVEN COSTS GOING UP AND OTHER FACTORS, THEY MAY EVEN MOVE FROM A 25 TO A 30. AND THEN SOME OF THE REALLY FAST GROWTH DISTRICTS ARE HAVING TO STRETCH OUT, YOU KNOW, FROM AN AFFORDABILITY STANDPOINT TO EVEN 35 YEARS OR SO.
AND LAST QUESTION IS THAT BECAUSE THE CAP OF OF A DOLLAR 50, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A I'M NOT GOING TO MENTION THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT IS AT THAT CAP THAT CANNOT DO ANY UTILIZATION BECAUSE OF JUMPING THE TAX RATE TOO HIGH IN THIS AREA IN THE METROPLEX, PARTICULARLY UP NORTH OR NORTHWEST.
YES, A DOLLAR $0.50 IS A BIG FACTOR BECAUSE, FOR INSTANCE, IN DENTON COUNTY, EVERY DISTRICT EXCEPT IN ISD THAT VOTED IN ELECTION IN MAY WERE DOING IT. THEY VOTED IN MEGA AMOUNTS MORE THAN THEY COULD AFFORD, LITERALLY.
BUT THEY'RE GROWING TO SUCH AN EXTENT THAT THEY KNOW THEY HAVE TO STRUCTURE THE REPAYMENT AS LONG AS THEY CAN AND STAY UNDER THE $0.50 AND CAN ONLY INCUR MORE DEBT AS THE VALUES GROW.
SO, YEAH, THEY'RE HAVING TO STRETCH OUT TO TO JUST STAY UNDER THE $0.50.
MR. BEACH WELL, I THINK LOPEZ WAS KIND OF ASKING THE SAME QUESTIONS I WAS LOOKING AT IS AS FAR AS OUR DISTRICT LOOKING AT POLICIES FOR FUTURE BONDS ON TOP OF THIS ONE AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WHAT YOU FEEL PROFESSIONALLY IS THE BEST BENEFICIAL FOR A DISTRICT OF OUR SIZE SO THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, TO STAY UNDER THE RADAR IF WE'RE GOING TO START DOING CONTINUING BOND PROGRAMS? YES, SIR. DO YOU HAVE ANY ADVICE FOR US IN THAT RESPECT? DR. RINGO AND I HAVE TALKED AND I'VE EXPRESSED 20 YEARS, LIKE I SAID, THAT USED TO BE KIND OF THE NORM FOR SCHOOL BONDS, REGARDLESS OF DISTRICT SIZE AND SO ON. BUT GOING BACK ABOUT 15 OR SO YEARS AGO, THAT HAD TO START CHANGING.
THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE.
AND I CAN REMEMBER ARLINGTON ISD WAS MENTIONED.
SEE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. WE THANK YOU, SIR.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION ITEMS THREE C DISCUSS BOND PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION.
[III.C. Discuss the Bond Program Administration - Mr. Paul Gonzales, Mr. Javier Fernandez]
MR. GONZALES, MR. JAVIER FERNANDEZ.MR. JOHNSON I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT TO THE PRESENTATION THEY PRESENT.
THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS YOU SEE WOULD NEED TO BE ADDED TO THE AMOUNTS THAT WERE SHOWN FROM THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION OR WHATEVER DOLLAR AMOUNTS DECIDED UPON, BECAUSE ONCE THE BOND PROGRAM IS PASSED, IT HAS TO BE MANAGED.
AND THAT IS WHAT MR. FERNANDEZ AND MR. GONZALES ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT.
SO LET'S JUST BE CLEAR AND SAY IT HAS TO BE ADDED TO THE TOTAL BOND AMOUNT.
ONCE AGAIN, NO DECISIONS BEING MADE TODAY.
THIS IS FOR DISCUSSION FOR TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.
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MR. JOHNSON. WHEN WE RECESSED, THE PRESENTATIONS WERE WIPED OFF THE COMPUTER AND THE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY.SO WE'RE RELOADING THAT PRESENTATION.
WELL, I KNEW HOW THE AIR WAS GOING TO STAND UP COMEDY.
I WAS JUST I WAS CHECKING TO SEE A PAUL OH, I CAN DO STAND UP COMEDY.
MY SO THEY TOLD ME, YOU NEED TO BE YOU NEED TO BE A COMEDIAN.
BUT. I GUESS MY LEAD IN FOR STAND UP IS I ACTUALLY AM STANDING EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN'T SEE ME, I ACTUALLY AM STANDING. AND THIS IS FUNNY.
SO YOU KEEP TURNING BRIGHT RED. I DON'T KNOW.
HUH? ALL RIGHT, GENTLEMEN. IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE SET UP OK.
THANK YOU. SO, PRESIDENT JOHNSON, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. DR.
LOPEZ, WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU THE BOND PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION.
WHAT WOULD THE DOLLARS COST IN ORDER TO ADMINISTER A BOND PROGRAM? SO WHENEVER A DISTRICT PASSES A BOND, THERE ARE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ADMINISTRATION OF A BOND, WHETHER THAT BOND IS ADMINISTERED IN-HOUSE OR WHETHER IT'S DONE THROUGH A THIRD PARTY ORGANIZATION, HOWEVER IT'S DONE, THERE ARE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO WHAT WE HAVE TRIED TO DO TONIGHT IS TO CAPTURE THOSE DOLLARS AND PRESENT TO YOU THREE VARIOUS SCENARIOS OF WHAT THAT COST WOULD BE TO OPERATE A BOND PROGRAM.
SO AGAIN, MY NAME IS JAVIER FERNANDEZ, DIRECTOR OF FACILITY PLANNING CONSTRUCTION, AND I'M WITH PAUL GONZALEZ, WHO'S THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES AND MAINTENANCE. AND WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU THIS, AND PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EITHER STOP ME AT ANY TIME TO ASK ME ANY QUESTIONS YOU'D LIKE, OR YOU CAN ASK ME QUESTIONS AT THE END.
SO AS I STATED EARLIER, WHAT WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT ARE THREE MODELS.
IN THE 2014 JACOBS PROJECT PROGRAM MANAGEMENT WAS A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR ON THAT SCENARIO.
SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, I WILL SHARE WITH YOU TWO THINGS IN THE MODELS.
WHAT IS THE MODEL LOOK LIKE FROM A STAFFING PERSPECTIVE? AND THEN WHAT IS THE MODEL LOOK LIKE FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE, AN IN-HOUSE MODEL? SO THIS IS COLOR CODED BECAUSE WHETHER YOU DO AN IN-HOUSE MODEL, YOU AUGMENT A MODEL OR YOU TAKE A THIRD
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PARTY MODEL, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT FROM AN IN-HOUSE COST.SO THOSE IN-HOUSE COSTS ARE THERE IN BLUE, MEANING THOSE COSTS ARE WHAT WE WERE WHAT WE CALL 199 FUNDS.
SO THOSE ARE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE POSITIONS IN BLUE.
THE POSITIONS IN GREEN ARE ASSOCIATED WITH BOND FUNDED POSITIONS.
IT'S EITHER IN-HOUSE PROCUREMENT, STAFF AUGMENTATION PROCUREMENT OR A THIRD PARTY PROCUREMENT.
SO THAT'S THE MODEL WE'RE LOOKING AT IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THE BOND OF THIS SIZE.
NOW, I SAY THE BOND OF THIS SIZE, THE BOND MODEL THAT WE USE WAS 1.2 BILLION.
OKAY. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE IMPACT OF AN IN-HOUSE MODEL.
IN-HOUSE MODEL. THE FIRST YEAR IMPACT IS 2.2, 2.2 MILLION, SECOND YEAR IS 2.25.
AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE NUMBERS OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.
THAT AVERAGES OUT TO ABOUT $11.8 MILLION TO OVERSEE AN IN-HOUSE MODEL USING THESE POSITIONS.
SO IF ALL THE POSITIONS IN GREEN WERE ACTUALLY AND I AS POSITIONS, THAT IS THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT MODEL OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD, IF YOU LOOK AT A STAFF AUGMENTATION MODEL, YOU HAVE THREE COLORS IN IT.
THE STAFF AUGMENTATION MODEL HAS AND THE REASON THERE IS A DARK GREEN AND THEN MORE OF A LIGHTER GREEN COLOR, WE KEPT THE LIGHTER GREEN COLOR BECAUSE THOSE ARE STILL BOND FUNDED POSITIONS.
HOWEVER, THOSE POSITIONS ARE IN-HOUSE POSITIONS.
SO THEY'RE NOT 199 POSITIONS, BUT THEY'RE GISD POSITIONS.
THE DARKER GREEN POSITIONS ARE THE POSITIONS THAT WOULD BE SHIFTED INTO A STAFF AUGMENTATION MODEL WHERE YOU WOULD PROCURE THOSE POSITIONS THROUGH A OUTSIDE ENTITY.
REPORT TO AN AUGMENTATION FIRM.
NOW THE COST TO DO THAT MODEL, YOU SEE YEAR ONE IMPACT, YEAR TWO AND THREES.
SO THE TOTAL IMPACT OVER FIVE YEARS IS 17.7.
THE STAFF AUGMENTATION THAT IS DONE IS YOU HAVE A DESIGN MANAGER, PROJECT MANAGERS, FIELD OBSERVER, WHO'S A FIELD OBSERVER SAFETY PERSON WHO'S OVER OVERSEEING THAT INTERNAL STAFF REQUIREMENTS ARE IN PLACE.
AGAIN, AS I STATED, THOSE WOULD STAY IN PLACE.
SO THE TOTALS YOU SEE THERE INCLUDE BOTH BOTH THE INTERNAL AND THE AUGMENTED STAFF.
SO THAT'S THE TOTAL COST TO RUN THAT MODEL.
IF WE WERE TO DO A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR MODEL, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE BLUE COLORS, WHICH ARE 199 POSITIONS THAT HAVE TO STILL BE OVERSEEING THE BOND.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE GREEN POSITIONS THAT ARE BOND FUNDED AND STILL REPORT TO THE DISTRICT.
THEN YOU HAVE AN ORANGE COLOR HERE THAT IS A PROGRAM MANAGEMENT FIRM.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS I'LL CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION IS THERE IS SOME DUAL ROLES, IF YOU WILL, WHENEVER YOU HAVE A PM FIRM, BECAUSE YOU STILL REQUIRE INTERNAL STAFF TO MANAGE A LOT OF THE SAME PROCESSES.
FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN IT COMES TO FUNDING, WHEN IT COMES TO THE PROCUREMENT, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PUT OUT THE RFP, CSPS, RFQ, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, THOSE THINGS ARE STILL DONE IN HOUSE AND SO YOU'LL HAVE SOME DUAL ROLES THAT ARE PLAYED THERE.
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MODELS THAT A PROJECT MANAGEMENT FIRM WILL OFFER YOU AND IT'S BASICALLY A FEE.SO THESE FEES THAT YOU SEE HERE OF 3.5, 3.75%, THOSE FEES COME FROM MY ANALYSIS.
JAVIER'S ANALYSIS OF WHAT THE MARKET IS ACTUALLY BEARING TODAY FROM A PROGRAM MANAGEMENT FIRMS. THIS IS WHAT PROGRAM MANAGEMENT FIRMS ARE CHARGING K 12 MODELS.
SO DEPENDING ON WHICH FIRM IT IS, THOSE ARE THE DIFFERENT FEES YOU'LL SEE.
SO WE GO ACROSS, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S A FLAT 3.5% TO RUN A BOND PROGRAM THAT'S ABOUT $42 MILLION.
THE INTERNAL STAFF COSTS IN ORDER TO DO THAT IS 4.1 MILLION.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT A TOTAL OF 46.1.
IF WE WERE TO NEGOTIATE A FEE OF 3.5, A FEE OF 3.7 RUNS AT 49.1, AND THERE ARE SOME PROGRAM MANAGEMENT FIRMS THAT HAVE RUN OF A FEE OF A 5%, WHICH IS ABOUT 60.1.
SO I WANT TO GO BACK REAL QUICK BECAUSE YOU SEE THERE'S A 42 I'M GOING TO USE A HIGHLIGHT.
I'LL HIGHLIGHT THE FIRST ONE WHERE IT SAYS 42 MILLION AND THE 4.136 MILLION.
THE 4.136 IS ACTUALLY THE ONES THAT YOU SEE IN BLUE AND THE ONES THAT YOU SEE IN GREEN.
SO THOSE COST ARE STILL PART OF THAT'S WHAT MAKES UP THE 4.1 MILLION.
SO TO SUMMARIZE WHAT WE SEE IN COST, YOUR IN-HOUSE MODEL FOR A $1.2 BILLION BOND PROGRAM RUNS YOU LESS THAN 1% OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.
YOU AUGMENT THE STAFF, IT RUNS YOU LESS THAN 1.5%.
IF YOU DO A THREE AND A HALF PERCENT FEE ON A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR, YOUR TOTAL COST IS ABOUT 3.8 AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE 5% IS GOING TO RUN YOU A TOTAL COST OF 5.3%.
SO THOSE ARE THE DIFFERENT COST MODELS THAT YOU SEE IN OVER IN THE ADMINISTRATION OF A BOND.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
NUMBER ONE, ON EACH OF THESE LEADING UP TO THE 24TH, CAN WE HAVE THE COLOR CODED COPIES? OUR COPIES ARE JUST YOUR COPIES ARE BLACK AND WHITE, SO WE DON'T GET THE DIFFERENT COLORS, RIGHT.
SO WE CAN ABSOLUTELY GET THAT TO YOU.
SO AND LOOKING AT NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER THREE.
AS I READ WHAT MY RESPONSIBILITY IS AS A AS A BOARD MEMBER, THE SUPERVISION AND GOVERNANCE OF THE BOND IS THAT IS RELIED ON IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE BOARD.
SO WE THAT THAT IS BY LAW, WHAT IT SAYS IS THAT WE'RE TO OVERSEE BASICALLY THE PROCESS.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT TO WITH THE AUGMENTATION AND WE TALK ABOUT PROJECT MANAGERS AND ALL OF THESE KINDS OF THINGS.
AND THREE, HOW ARE THESE PEOPLE HIRED? AND WHO WHO IS THE PROGRAM MANAGER OF THE BOND, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE TO REPORT EVERYTHING BASICALLY TO THE BOARD AND TO GET THAT TYPE OF PERSON? IS THAT IN RFQ? IS THAT AN RFP OR ARE WE GOING TO JUST SAY, OKAY, WE KNOW THIS PERSON OVER HERE AND THEN WE'VE GOT TO BRING THEM AS.
THAT. SO WHAT IS OUR LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY AS THE BOARD IN.
NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER THREE WITH THE PROJECT.
I DON'T KNOW SEE, WE KEEP USING THESE WORDS INTERCHANGEABLY.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S PROJECT MANAGER.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S PROGRAM MANAGER, THOUGH.
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TO ME THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.SO I'M TRYING TO GET TO TRANSPARENCY OF WHO IS THE PERSON THAT REALLY IS THE ONE THAT REPORTS BACK TO THE BOARD.
TO ME, THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN COMING THROUGH OUR FACILITIES MEETING AND ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
IT'S THE PERSON THAT IF WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE BOND PROGRAM, WITH ALL OF ITS PROJECTS, THAT IS THE PERSON THAT CAN ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS BECAUSE THAT IS THE PERSON THAT OVERSEES THE WHOLE PROGRAM.
AM I WHEREVER I'M OFF, JUST CORRECT ME.
OKAY. DO YOU WANT ME TO TAKE THAT QUESTION? ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
TRUSTEE GRIFFIN ULTIMATELY EVERY BOND PROGRAM, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO WHEN WE WRITE CONTRACTS FOR OUR IT'S A STANDARD AA DOCUMENT THAT WE USE TODAY FOR ALL OF OUR ARCHITECTURAL CONTRACTS, ALL OF OUR ALL OF OUR CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS.
THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE ON THAT LINE IS THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
IT'S NOT JAVIER FERNANDEZ, NOT PAUL GONZALEZ, IT IS THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
WE AS STAFF, WE REPORT BACK TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES VIA DR.
WHAT YOU SEE HERE IN THIS MODEL IS THAT IS WHERE THE RESPONSIBILITY LIES.
THAT'S WHERE THE RESPONSIBILITY LIES AND THAT'S WHERE THE WORK AND THE COORDINATION.
YES, MA'AM. WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS WHEN PEOPLE SAY THEY HAVE A PROGRAM MANAGER OR A BOND PROJECT MANAGER, HOW IS THAT PERSON SELECTED? ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT? AND I KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS IN IN HOUSE.
I'M INTERESTED IN THESE OTHER TWO OPTIONS WHERE WHO IS THAT PERSON AND HOW IS THAT PERSON HIRED OR DECIDED ON? OKAY, I CAN.
THEY'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK OUT.
IT DEPENDS ON WHAT WE WANT THEM TO DO ON A STAFF AUGMENTATION MODEL.
THAT MODEL IS STAFF AUGMENTATION.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE ARE GOING TO UTILIZE THE PROCUREMENT METHOD THAT ALLOWS US TO STAFF TO USE ADDITIONAL STAFF FOR THE DISTRICT.
WE HAVE A MODEL TODAY THAT WE HIRE SUBSTITUTES.
SO WHEN WE NEED SUBSTITUTES, THAT MODEL THAT WE USE, WE HAVE PERMANENT EMPLOYEES THAT H.R.
HIRES, RIGHT? WE HAVE THAT PROCESS THERE.
WE ALSO HAVE WITHIN THAT WHICH IS CALLED CONTRACTED SERVICES, I.E.
CONTRACTED SERVICES SUCH AS THAT, SUCH AS SUBSTITUTES.
THAT IS THAT PROCUREMENT METHOD, THAT STREAM OF HOW YOU CAN HIRE.
WHEN YOU GET INTO A PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR THAT IS A DIFFERENT PROCUREMENT METHOD.
THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT PROCUREMENT METHODS THAT YOU CAN USE THERE.
THE FIRST THAT COUNCIL HAS THAT I'VE WORKED WITH, COUNCIL WHO IS SHARED WITH ME THAT IS A CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATOR UNDER THE STATE STATUTES.
YOU CAN YOU CAN HIRE THEM UNDER THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AGENT PROCUREMENT METHOD.
SOME DISTRICTS HAVE CHOSEN TO USE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES STATUTE.
THE COUNCIL THAT I'VE WORKED WITH IN THE PAST HAS REALLY TOLD ME THAT THAT'S REALLY NOT WHAT IT IS.
IT'S REALLY A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER.
AGENT IS HOW WE WOULD PROCURE THAT.
THAT WOULD BE THROUGH AN RFQ BECAUSE YOU GOT YOU GOT A CONTRACT MANAGER AT RISK OR A CONTRACT ABOUT AGENTS AND ALL OF THOSE.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO WHAT I'M JUST FOR CLARITY, WHAT WILL BE BEST
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OF BASICALLY FOR US I SEE THE COST AND YET THESE NUMBERS ARE HIGH ON THE ON THE ON THE THIRD PARTY.AND WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF UNDERSTANDING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH SHOULD WE HAVE TO CHOOSE.
THE AUGMENTATION MODEL AND I THINK YOU'VE JUST TOLD ME.
YES, YES, MA'AM, THERE ACTUALLY IS THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO DIFFERENT PROCESSES THAT WE THAT WE WOULD WORK WITH PURCHASING ON THOSE TWO. WHICHEVER THE THE DISTRICT DECIDES TO USE.
SO THE THIRD OPTION, WHAT WOULD BE THE PROCUREMENT METHOD FOR THAT? OKAY. SO THE THIRD PARTY.
RIGHT. THE THIRD PARTY, AS I STATED, THE STATE STATUTE, BECAUSE THIRD PARTY PROJECT MANAGEMENT FIRMS ARE REALLY CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AGENT FIRMS. THEY OPERATE AS AN AGENT ON BEHALF OF THE DISTRICT.
THAT IS A THAT IS A PROCUREMENT AVENUE UNDER THE STATE STATUTE SIMILAR TO CSP, SIMILAR TO SIMILAR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AGENT, SIMILAR TO A JOC, THOSE TYPES OF PROCUREMENT METHODS.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. SELDERS. YEAH, THANK THANK YOU FOR THIS INFORMATION YOU OUTLINED.
FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, THREE PRIMARY MODELS AND GIVE US SOME VARIATIONS OF THE THIRD IN TERMS OF THE INVESTMENT, WHAT WOULD BE THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THE VARIOUS OPTIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE GETTING VERSUS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING TO SELECT EACH OR ANY ONE OF THESE PARTICULAR MODELS? WELL, THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS TO WHEN YOU ADMINISTER A BOND PROGRAM IS YOU WANT TO BE ON TIME AND ON BUDGET.
I MEAN, THAT'S YOUR BIGGEST THAT'S YOUR BIGGEST TARGET.
YOU KNOW, TIME IS MONEY, RIGHT? AND SO THE CHALLENGE IS THE CHALLENGES ARE ENSURING THAT ALL OF THE BASE PIECES FOR THE BOND PROGRAM, ALL THE VARIOUS PROJECTS THAT A BOND PROGRAM IS GOING TO HAVE, ALL OF THE LITTLE INTRICACIES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER TODAY, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FENCING, WE TALK ABOUT PLAYGROUNDS, WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE THE MAJOR PROJECTS THAT HAVE TO GO ON.
HAVING A SOLID, CONCISE LIST AND HOW THOSE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO BE EXECUTED OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL WHETHER YOU DO ANY OF THESE THREE MODELS.
AND SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT AT THE VERY BEGINNING, THEN THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE BACKWARDS REGARDLESS OF WHICH MODEL YOU USE. SO IT'S EXTREMELY CRITICAL THAT I WILL TELL YOU, IS PROBABLY THE MOST CRITICAL COMPONENT TO BEING A SUCCESSFUL BOND PROGRAM.
NOW, LET ME JUST SHARE WITH YOU.
THERE ARE A LOT OF DISTRICTS AROUND US WHO PASS ONE POINT TO $1.5 BILLION BOND PROGRAMS, BUT THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT ARE WITHIN THAT BOND PROGRAM DO NOT EQUATE TO THE NUMBER OF BOND PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE.
SO YOU SEE A BOND PROGRAM, FOR EXAMPLE, I'M JUST GOING TO USE ISD, ABC, AND THEY PASSED A $1.2 BILLION BOND PROGRAM OUT OF THAT $1.2 BILLION BOND PROGRAM, THEY'RE DOING TEN PROJECTS.
AND YOU'RE SITTING THERE GOING, I'VE GOT TEN PROJECTS, WE'VE HIRED THREE PMS. THAT'S OUR STAFF. WE'RE GOOD.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT TEN PROJECTS HERE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID IN 2014, WHICH IS 90 SOMETHING PROJECTS.
YEAH, PROBABLY OVER 100 PROJECTS.
WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THIS, THE VALUE OF THE PROJECT.
IT MEANS NOTHING WHEN IT COMES TO THE NUMBER OF STAFF YOU NEED.
IT'S THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO PUSH OUT DETERMINES THE NUMBER OF STAFF YOU NEED, BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE ONE PROJECT THAT'S AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND IT'S A 60 TO $60 MILLION PROJECT.
THAT'S ONE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THAT'S ONE PROJECT MANAGER, THAT'S $60 MILLION.
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YOU HAVE ANOTHER PROJECT THAT'S $10 MILLION.BUT WITHIN THAT $10 MILLION, WE'VE GOT EIGHT OR NINE CAMPUSES THAT ONE INDIVIDUAL PHYSICALLY HAS TO GO TO EIGHT OR NINE CAMPUSES RATHER THAN ONE CAMPUS.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S CRITICAL FOR EVERYONE TO REALLY UNDERSTAND.
SO BASICALLY, TO YOUR POINT, AND I AGREE THAT THE CORE PIECES OF THE MODEL HAVE TO BE IN PLACE, AND BASED ON WHAT I'M LOOKING AT, YOU GUYS ARE PRETTY MUCH PART OF THE CORE PIECE OF THAT, RIGHT? SO YOU HAVE TO DETERMINE FOR THOSE IN THE BLUE WHO THOSE PEOPLE ARE AND THEN FOR ALL OF THE OTHER INDIVIDUALS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
AND SO BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THIS PARTICULAR BOND, WHICH MODEL DO YOU FEEL IS GOING TO GIVE US THE GREATEST RETURN IN TERMS OF WE'RE SAYING MADE THE STATEMENT TIME IS MONEY.
SO MORE DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN BETTER.
SO IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, WHICH OPTION SHOULD WE BE LOOKING MORE CLOSELY AT? AND THEN HOW WILL WE GO ABOUT GETTING THOSE PIECES IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF SO THAT WE CAN FINISH ON TIME WITHIN BUDGET? THE GREAT PRODUCT YOU'RE ASKING FOR MY OPINION.
I'LL GIVE MY OPINION. IF YOU WANT MY OPINION NOW, I'LL GIVE YOU MY OPINION.
OKAY. SO BEFORE I GIVE YOU MY OPINION, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.
SO I WAS INVOLVED IN THE ISD, SO I WAS THERE WHEN THEY WERE RUNNING A BOND PROGRAM AT DISD AND THEY HAD FOUR PROJECT MANAGEMENT FIRMS. I WAS A. HE'S THE EMPLOYEE.
WE HAD PROJECT MANAGERS, WE HAD PEOPLE WORKING IN THE BOND OFFICE WITH THOSE BOND PROGRAM MANAGERS.
IT WAS ONE OF ME AND A SLEW OF THEM.
I OVERSAW EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS WITH THEM.
SO I WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE BOND PROGRAM AT DISD.
I LEFT DISD, WENT TO WORK FOR ROCKWALL ISD.
IT MANAGED TO BOND PROGRAMS FOR ROCKWALL ISD.
I LEFT ROCKWALL ISD AND I WENT TO WORK FOR ARLINGTON ISD AND I DID ALL OF THE SPEARHEADING FOR ONE BOND PROGRAM AND STARTED THE ENTIRE BOND PROGRAM DEPARTMENT IN-HOUSE WITH AUDITS AND ISD THERE ON THEIR SECOND BOND PROGRAM WITH THE EXACT SAME MODEL.
SO IN MY OPINION, IF YOU WANT MY HONEST OPINION, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
I KNOW EVERY ARCHITECT IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA.
I KNOW EVERY SINGLE ENGINEER IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA.
I KNOW EVERY TEST AND BALANCE FIRM.
THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE TELLING ME.
SO WHEREVER I GO, ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS FOLLOW.
NOW, ALL THAT BEING SAID, WHAT MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STAFFING AND WE KNOW HOW STAFFING WORKS, WE KNOW HOW THE MARKET WORKS.
AND THIS IS A DIFFERENT MARKET.
WE'RE IN EDUCATION, SO WE KNOW WE YOU CAN HAVE DR.
BROWN UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE HIRE TEACHERS, HOW WE HIRE OUR COUNSELORS, THE CHALLENGES WE'RE HAVING IN THIS MARKET SECTOR, THE BOND PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION. IT'S ACTUALLY A SEPARATE SECTOR.
IT IS WE PLAY IN IT BECAUSE WE'RE K 12 AND WE'RE BUILDING.
BUT IT'S A VERY UNIQUE SECTOR.
AND WITHIN THAT SECTOR THERE ARE UPS AND DOWNS.
THERE ARE VARIOUS MARKET CONDITIONS THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE USED TO SEEING.
THAT'S WHERE MY EXPERTISE COMES IN TO HELP YOU FACILITATE THE RIGHT CHOICES FOR THE DISTRICT.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE IS THAT WE WOULD FUND THE STAFF AUGMENTATION MODEL, FUND THAT PIECE, BUT DO IT IN HOUSE.
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IF YOU LOOK AT THE STAFF AUGMENTATION MODEL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE AND AGAIN, THOSE AREAS IN GREEN, THOSE POSITIONS IN GREEN, THOSE POSITIONS ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN.NOW, THE CHALLENGE THERE IS, REGARDLESS OF WHO WE BRING IN, WHAT FIRM OR WHAT INDIVIDUAL, THEY WILL HAVE TO LEARN THE GARLAND ISD WAY.
THERE'S A GARLAND WAY, THERE'S AN ORANGUTAN WAY, THERE'S A PLANO WAY.
IT'S GOING TO. THEY WILL HAVE TO LEARN THE GARLAND ISD WAY.
SO HAVING THOSE INDIVIDUALS HERE UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESSES THAT GARLAND USES.
THE GOAL IS TO HIRE THEM AND BRING THEM IN HOUSE.
THE CHALLENGE IS SOMETIMES BECAUSE OF WHERE THE MARKET CONDITIONS ARE.
YOU HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE AND DO STAFF AUGMENTATION FOR SOME OF THOSE KEY POSITIONS BECAUSE OF WHERE WE ARE IN WHAT WE CAN PAY VERSUS WHAT A STAFF AUGMENTATION FIRM COULD PAY.
AND SO WITH THAT, THAT'S WHY I SAY FROM MANAGING THE BOND, HAVING THE FUNDING THERE OF 17.7, BUT BEING ABLE TO START AS AN IN-HOUSE MODEL.
I WILL TELL YOU JUST FOR A POINT OF REFERENCE, BECAUSE I LOOK THIS UP, THE COST THAT THE DISTRICT SPENT FOR THE LAST MONTH PROGRAM WAS A OVERALL BOND PROGRAM, 445 MILLION FOR AND 54 AND 45 450 SOME ROUND UP.
OUR TOTAL COST WAS 16.2 IS WHAT WE PAID.
NOW I'LL JUST PUT IT OUT THERE BECAUSE EVERYONE KNOWS WE PAID 16.2.
BUT WHEN I GOT HERE, WE HAD LESS THAN TEN PROJECTS CLOSED AND WE HAD ABOUT 97 JOBS.
SO. THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION.
I'M GOING TO STOP AND LET PAUL GIVE HIS RECOMMENDATION.
LOPEZ, ME AND MR. FERNANDEZ HAVE HAD LONG, LONG DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO MANAGE THIS BOND PROGRAM.
IT'S A VERY BIG RESPONSIBILITY.
MS.. GRIFFIN, YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD WHEN IT COMES TO WHO IS GOING TO BE THE ULTIMATE RESPONSIBLE PARTY FOR THIS BOND PROGRAM. WE ARE THE LAST BOND PROGRAM THAT I WAS PART OF THAT I CAME IN IN 2019, AND MR. FERNANDEZ WAS HIRED A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THAT.
HE IS CORRECT. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROJECTS CLOSED.
AND ME AND MR. FERNANDEZ WORKED REALLY HARD AND FOCUSED ON CLOSING THE BOND PROGRAM, AND WE DID SOME STAFF AUGMENTATION WITH THE PREVIOUS PM AND WE GOT IT ACCOMPLISHED. I CONCUR WITH PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT MR. FERNANDEZ STATED.
I BELIEVE THAT WE KICKED HIS BOND PROGRAM OFF AND WE DO INTERNAL STAFFING.
I THINK WE START IN THAT DIRECTION.
BUT WE ASKED THE BOARD TO GIVE US THE FLEXIBILITY IF WE CANNOT HIRE THESE PROFESSIONALS.
PROJECT SENIOR PROJECT MANAGERS, PROJECT MANAGERS, DESIGN MANAGERS.
IF WE CAN'T HIRE THEM INTERNALLY, WE CAN'T WAIT.
EVERY EVERY MONTH THAT PASSES THAT'S COSTING THE DISTRICT MONEY TO MANAGE THIS BOND PROGRAM, WE'VE GOT TO KICK THIS BUMPER AS SOON AS AS THE FINANCIAL PEOPLE SHARED WITH THIS.
OUR FIRST BOND SALE IS GOING TO BE IN JULY, IN THE SUMMER, JUNE OR JULY.
SO AS SOON AS WE GET THAT BOND SALE, WE NEED TO BE ALREADY HAVING CONTRACTS IN PLACE.
WHO'S GOING TO DO OUR DESIGN WORK? AND ANOTHER THING THAT YOU SPOKE ABOUT WAS HOW ARE WE GOING TO FOLLOW WHAT PROCESSES WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW, STATE STATUTE, WE'RE GOING TO PUT RFQ OUT FOR THE BEST QUALIFIED PROFESSIONALS TO DESIGN OUR BUILDINGS, TO ENGINEER OUR BUILDINGS.
AND IF WE DECIDE TO GO TO A THIRD PARTY, WE WILL FOLLOW THAT SAME PROCESS.
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BUT MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT, AS MR. FERNANDEZ STATED, WE STARTED IN HOUSE, BUT GIVE US THE FLEXIBILITY OF HAVING THE BUDGET OF THE 17 MILLION IF WE NEED TO BRING STAFF AUGMENTATION. THAT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION.MR. GRIFFIN OK IN-HOUSE TO ME MEANS WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.
WHEN YOU USE THAT WORD, I'M JUST I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT CLARITY.
IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STAFF AUGMENTATION, THEN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE I HEARD YOU SAY IT IN ARLINGTON THAT THEY ACTUALLY YOU ACTUALLY FORMED A BOND GROUP.
SO I JUST WANT US TO GET THE LANGUAGE FOR ME, AND MAYBE I'M THE ONLY BOARD MEMBER STRUGGLING WITH THIS IN TERMS OF TERMINOLOGY, BECAUSE THE AUGMENTATION TO ME WILL FALL IN LINE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OR THE GROUP THAT YOU DEVELOPED OVER IN ARLINGTON ARE WILL IT? BECAUSE MY MY DEAL IS I'M ASSUMING YOU WILL BE MANAGING ALL THE NEW PEOPLE THAT WILL HAVE TO BE HIRED OR WHATEVER.
SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE DOING OTHER FACILITIES IN MAINTENANCE THINGS.
THEIR FOCUS IS GOING TO BE THE BOND AND THE BOND ONLY TO WHATEVER PERIOD IS.
SO STATION I'M SORRY, IN AN AUGMENTATION MODEL, WE WON'T HAVE A SEPARATE FIRM.
YOU ESSENTIALLY WILL BE THE FIRM.
NO, THE STAFF AUGMENTATION MODEL.
WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY GO OUT AND WE'LL HAVE TO WE'LL HAVE TO.
YOU DO HAVE WE STILL WE STILL HAVE TO GET A FIRM, BUT THOSE INDIVIDUALS WILL REPORT TO A FIRM.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY PAID BY THAT FIRM.
BUT WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR IS WE'RE PAYING FOR LABOR.
BASICALLY, IT'S LABOR. WE'RE PAYING FOR LABOR.
SO LET ME LET ME GO BACK AND ADDRESS OR ANSWER.
TRUSTEE GRIFFIN WHEN I SAY IN HOUSE MODEL.
SO TO BE CLEAR AND I APOLOGIZE THAT YOUR YOUR, YOUR, YOUR HANDOUTS ARE IN BLACK AND WHITE, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, ANYTHING IN BLUE, THOSE POSITIONS CURRENTLY EXIST.
ANYTHING IN GREEN, THOSE POSITIONS DO NOT EXIST TODAY.
SO THOSE AREN'T THOSE POSITIONS ARE THEY DO NOT.
WE DON'T HAVE THOSE POSITIONS.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO RECRUIT FOR THOSE POSITIONS.
THAT'S WHY THEY'RE GREEN AND THEN THEY'RE BOND FUNDED.
SO THAT'S SO WHILE IT'S AN IN-HOUSE MODEL, THE STAFF IS NOT FULLY HERE YET.
AND THAT THAT IS THE MODEL THAT IS BEING USED IN ARLINGTON TODAY.
WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY THAT WE WERE USING A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR MODEL BEFORE YOUR ARRIVAL WITH JACOBS RUNNING AS PROJECT MANAGER? AND THAT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THREE.
AFTER YOUR ARRIVAL, WHEN JACOBS WHAT WAS REMAINED? THAT IS A EXAMPLE OF TWO.
BECAUSE THEY WERE STILL THERE AND THEY PROVIDED LABOR FOR OUR TEAM.
BUT OUR TEAM EFFECTIVELY AT THAT POINT WAS RUNNING THE BOND.
AND WHEREAS ONE, WE DON'T HAVE A.
I THINK MAYBE MR. GLICK AND MS.. GRIFFIN MIGHT HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE WITH ONE, BUT THE REST OF US PROBABLY DON'T.
SO I THINK THAT THAT'S FROM OUR RECENT HISTORY.
WE CAN KIND OF USE SEE EXAMPLES WITH RESPECT TO THAT.
NOW A QUESTION THAT I HAVE SPECIFICALLY IS DO WE KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE BOND THE FEE WAS THAT JACOB WAS CHARGING US FOR AS A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR IN THE 2014 BOND? ALL DUE, ALL APOLOGIES TO MS..
GRIFFIN ABOUT GOING IN THE PAST.
NOW, WAS THAT THE AGREED UPON FEE OR WAS THAT SHORT OF WHAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HAD JACOBS BEEN ABLE TO, QUITE FRANKLY, FINISH THE JOB ALL THE WAY THROUGH? WE KNOW WHY THEY WERE PULLED, BUT OR WOULD HAVE BEEN HIGHER.
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GOOD THING, MR. GRIFFITH.NO, NO, I'M ASKING YOU A QUESTION RIGHT NOW.
ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE THE 3.5.
WAS THAT A NEGOTIATED FEE? IS THAT WAS THAT THE CONTRACTED RATE WITH JACOBS, OR IS THAT JUST WHAT IT ENDED UP AT THE END OF? THAT'S WHERE IT ENDED UP.
THAT'S WHERE IT ENDED UP BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY ENDED UP SEVERING THE RELATIONSHIP.
HAD WE EXTENDED IT, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN CLOSER TO 3839.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT, MR. GLICK. YEAH, IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PAST, BECAUSE WE HAD MR. SELDERS AND MS STANLEY ASK ABOUT THE 2014 BOND.
SO THE DISCUSSION THAT'S TAKING PLACE NOW NEVER TOOK PLACE.
NEVER TOOK PLACE IN 2014 BEFORE THE BOND WAS PASSED.
IT WAS ONLY AFTER THE FACT THAT WE WERE TOLD THAT WE NEED SOMEBODY TO MANAGE THE BOND.
AND THAT'S WHERE JACOBS CAME IN.
THE 3.5% FEE AND 13.5 MILLION PRETTY MUCH WAS THE INITIAL FEE.
AND THE PROBLEM WAS AT THAT POINT WAS WE HAD PROJECTS TOTALING $455.5 MILLION, AND NOW WE HAD ANOTHER 13.5 MILLION ON TOP OF THAT.
AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO AFFORD THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY AND NOT CUT THE PROJECTS? LUCKILY, AS I'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, WE HAD A PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS WITH THE LOWEST INFLATION RATES IN HISTORY.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT IN MANY, MANY MORE THINGS.
SO ONE THING THAT'S GOOD ABOUT THIS PRESENTATION IS WE'LL BE ABLE, WHATEVER MODEL WE CHOOSE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADD THOSE DOLLARS ON AND KNOW AHEAD OF TIME.
NOW, THIS IS A MUCH SMALLER PERCENTAGE.
IF WE TAKE THE FIRST TWO MODELS ON 1.2 BILLION AS OPPOSED TO THAT AMOUNT ON 455 MILLION.
SO IT'S NOT INSIGNIFICANT, BUT IT'S NOT THAT MATERIAL.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT ALSO.
WE DID START OUT WITH JACOBS AS THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR.
THAT WAS DIRECTLY WE THEY DIRECTLY DID THAT.
THEY EVEN HAD THEIR OWN BUILDING, WHICH YOU MAY HAVE KNOWN IT WAS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT SAYS ANYMORE, BUT IT WAS JACOBS BUILDING.
I THINK IT STILL SAYS THE SAME THING ON OK.
AND THEY HAD ALL THEIR EMPLOYEES THERE AND ALL THAT.
I'M MUCH MORE IN FAVOR OF WHAT YOU'VE PROPOSED AS AN INDIVIDUAL TRUSTEE TONIGHT.
I HAVE TRUST IN YOUR YOUR GENTLEMAN'S ABILITY AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE SO FAR.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE DIRECTION I WOULD GO.
I'M NOT QUITE SURE I UNDERSTAND HOW WE'D WHO YOU'D HIRE ON ON THE STAFF AUGMENTATION AUGMENTATION MODEL. BUT I WOULD BE FOR A OR I'M GOING TO CALL IT ONE OR TWO.
JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON MY MY QUESTION WITH RESPECT.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE MR. GLICK IS A GOOD RESOURCE HERE BECAUSE HE REMEMBERS IT AS WELL.
IF IT WOULD HAVE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN EFFECTIVELY CUT OFF AT SOME POINT.
THE NUMBERS WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW ON THE THIRD PARTY MODEL, YOU'RE RANGING ANYWHERE FROM 3.5 TO 5 IS WHAT DO YOU SEE TYPICALLY ON THAT THIRD PARTY MODEL WITH CURRENT KIND OF CURRENT BOND STRUCTURES ON BOND ISSUANCES, ARE THEY FLOWING CLOSER TO THE FIVE OR CLOSER TO THE 3.5? WHAT I'M SEEING TODAY, I'M SEEING THEY'RE RUNNING AROUND THREE, 5 TO 3 EIGHT.
AND SO LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU WHERE I'M TRYING TO GET DOWN AND DON'T READ ANYTHING INTO MY QUESTIONS.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET INFORMATION.
SO ABSOLUTELY, THEY'RE RUNNING AT ABOUT THREE 5 TO 3 EIGHT.
ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN YOU HIRE A THIRD PARTY, WHEN YOU HIRE A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR, THEIR GOAL IS TO RUN THE BOND PROGRAM FOR YOU. THAT'S IT.
THAT'S THEIR CHARGE, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY HIRE YOUR ARCHITECTS, THEY HIRE YOUR CONTRACTORS, THEY DO YOUR LEGAL CONTRACTS, THEY DO ALL OF YOUR SOLICITATION.
THAT'S BUT THAT'S THAT'S THE MARKET.
SO THEY DO ALL OF THAT FOR THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY.
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SO. IF THE DISTRICT WAS TO SAY, WELL, WE WANT A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR, BUT WE WANT TO RETAIN CERTAIN THINGS, IT GETS VERY THE WATER GETS A LITTLE MUDDY WITH THEM BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE ROLE THEY PLAY.THEY COME IN, THEY HANDLE IT ALL FOR YOU FROM A CONTRACT PIECE THROUGH, LIKE I SAID, ALL OF THAT.
HOWEVER, THERE IS A CLAUSE IN THEIR CONTRACT THAT SAYS THAT WHEN IT COMES TO LITIGATION, THEY ARE AN ADMINISTRATOR OF YOUR AGREEMENTS.
YOU ARE THE OWNER OF THE AGREEMENT.
THEY'RE NOT INVOLVED IN THE LITIGATION PIECE.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS EXECUTIVE SESSION.
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THAT TAKES US TO AGENDA ITEM SIX, WHICH IS ADJOURNMENT.
[VI. Adjournment ]
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