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[I. Call to Order and Determination of a Quorum]

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IT IS 3:00.

AND THIS IS A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING OF THE GARLAND INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF TRUSTEES.

I HAVE DETERMINED THAT A QUORUM IS PRESENT AND IF I CAN OPEN MY AGENDA, THE NEXT ITEM IS PUBLIC FORUM.

MS. HOGAN, DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS? SEEING WE HAVE NO CARDS.

[III.A. Budget Workshop]

WE GO TO INFORMATION ITEMS 3A A BUDGET WORKSHOP RECEIVE 2023 2024 BUDGET WORKSHOP UPDATE BRANDY MAYO.

HELLO. GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT JOHNSON, BOARD OF TRUSTEES, DR.

LOPEZ. IF I COULD JUST TAKE A ONE SECOND TO SAY THANK YOU TO DR.

RINGO. THIS IS OUR LAST BUDGET WORKSHOP TOGETHER.

WE'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT OF BUDGET WORKSHOPS THROUGH THE HOUSE BILL THREE, ALL OF THOSE CHANGES AND THE PANDEMIC.

AND IT HAS BEEN A REALLY WILD RIDE.

AND I'M GRATEFUL TO HAVE HAD YOUR LEADERSHIP AND GUIDANCE THROUGH THAT.

AND SO IT'S KIND OF WEIRD TO BE STANDING UP HERE THE LAST NIGHT.

SO I'LL LET YOU ANSWER ALL OF THE QUESTIONS TONIGHT IN HONOR OF THAT.

SO BUT THANK YOU, DR.

RINGO REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

SO WE WILL GET STARTED.

I JUST HAVE A FEW KIND OF COUPLE OF UPDATES BEFORE WE GET INTO THE MEAT OF WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.

SO JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.

AND OBVIOUSLY, SINCE I'VE MADE THIS SLIDE, YOU KNOW, TWO WEEKS AGO, A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED, BUT WE ARE STILL MOVING THROUGH THE 88TH LEGISLATIVE PROCESS.

THERE ARE A LOT OF BILLS ON THE SENATE AND HOUSE SIDE THAT ARE AFFECTING SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

AND THIS IS JUST A COUPLE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

WE DO HAVE HOUSE BILL 100 BY OUR REPRESENTATIVE KING WILL BE CONSIDERED ON THE HOUSE FLOOR WEDNESDAY.

AND THEN THERE ARE SEVERAL ITEMS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE WHICH INCREASING AND BASIC ALLOTMENT, POSSIBLE NEW SALARY SCHEDULE, NEW ALLOTMENTS FOR REVENUE FUNDING, CHANGES TO OUR FUNDING FORMULA ALLOCATION.

AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF ITEMS IN THERE THAT COULD AFFECT US THERE.

AND THEN THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER BILLS THAT ARE ON THE MOVE.

AND SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO CONTINUALLY TO BE MONITORING THOSE AND HOW THEY ARE GOING TO AFFECT US AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

THESE ARE OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET ASSUMPTIONS.

SO NONE OF THESE ITEMS HAVE CHANGED SINCE WE LAST MET.

THE BUDGET IS STILL BUILT ON CURRENT LAW AND UNDER THESE ITEMS, BUT SINCE WE'VE MET, WE DO KNOW OUR ASSESSED VALUES ARE HIGHER OR SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN 3%.

BUT AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, THE WAY THE CURRENT FUNDING FORMULA IS, IS THE MORE VALUES WE HAVE ON THE LOCAL SIDE, THE LESS STATE.

SO IT JUST OFFSETS.

SO GENERALLY SPEAKING, OUR REVENUE WILL BE SIMILAR UNDER CURRENT LAW.

WE ARE STILL HAVE OUR SAME UNKNOWNS AS WHEN WE LAST MET OUR TAX RATE.

WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH PROPERTY VALUES, CURRENT FUNDING FORMULAS.

WE BUILT IT ON CURRENT LAW.

WE DO EXPECT TO SEE SOME CHANGES THERE.

WE DO NOT HAVE THE OUTCOME OF OUR GIBSON COST SAVINGS AUDIT, WHICH WE DO EXPECT TO AFFECT OUR EXPENSE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.

AND THEN WHAT WE ARE ALL HERE TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT IS OUR RAISE SCENARIOS.

SINCE WE LAST MET I THINK LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED I DID ALERT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE CAMPUSES AND DEPARTMENTS WERE STILL FINALIZING THEIR BUDGETS.

AND SO THERE WERE SOME REQUESTS THAT CAME THROUGH AND THEY'RE DETAILED ON THIS SLIDE PRESENTED BEFORE YOU GENERAL FUND BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE HAD ABOUT $11 MILLION ON THE DOCKET LAST TIME AND NOW WE'RE UP TO 14.7.

SO THESE ITEMS, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THEY'RE DETAILED.

A LOT OF THEM ARE YEARLY ANNUAL REQUIRED ITEMS FOR SOFTWARE AND VARIOUS PROGRAMS THAT WE PARTICIPATE IN.

WE ARE CONTINUING OUR COLLEGE FOR ALL AND OUR MAGNET PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE BEEN INCREASING THROUGHOUT THE YEARS AS PLANNED WHEN THEY WERE INITIALLY PUT IN PLACE. AND THOSE ITEMS ARE ON THERE AS WELL.

SO I'LL LET YOU TAKE A TIME JUST A QUICK SECOND IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THOSE.

AND WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK IF THERE'S A QUESTION FOR THESE SPECIFIC ITEMS. MS. GRIFFIN. YES. JUST FOR CLARITY, WE'RE ON PAGE EIGHT IN OUR BOOKS, AND I THINK THAT'S RIGHT.

SO THESE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

WHEN DO THEY BECOME PART OF THE BUDGET? THEY BECOME PART OF THE BUDGET ON THE DAY THE BOARD APPROVES THE BUDGET.

SO WHAT WE DO AS PROCESS IS WE.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. FIVE.

YEAH. OKAY. THANKS.

WE BRING THESE ITEMS TO THE BOARD ONCE ADMINISTRATION HAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED THESE FOR RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD THEY ARE A PART OF AS WE MOVE THROUGH TONIGHT,

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UNLESS THERE'S ANY ITEMS UP FOR DISCUSSION, THEY WILL BECOME PART OF THE BOTTOM BASELINE BUDGET NUMBER THAT WILL BECOME A REVIEWED IN AT THE END OF JUNE.

OKAY. SO REPEAT THAT STATEMENT.

SO IF? UNLESS THERE IS A DECISION TO REVIEW AN ITEM SPECIFICALLY THAT'S CORRECT. THESE ITEMS WILL BECOME PART OF THE BUDGET AND THEY ARE IN THE SLIDES LATER ON IN THIS PRESENTATION TO GIVE YOU A VISUAL OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

THANK YOU.

MS. MAYO WITH RESPECT TO THE 1 TO 1 SUSTAINABILITY DISTRICT WIDE IF PROPOSITION C PASSES ON MAY THE 6TH WOULD THIS CONTINUE TO BE PART OF THE BUDGET ITEM? IF THAT PROPOSITION PASSES ON MAY THE 6TH, WE WILL EXCLUDE THIS ITEM FROM THE BUDGET.

IT IS COVERED IN THAT PROPOSITION.

THANK YOU. MS. STANLEY. OKAY.

I'M NOT SURE IF THE QUESTION IS TO YOU, MS. MAYOR OR TO DR.

LOPEZ. SO.

IF WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED THE GIBSON AUDIT OF OUR PROGRAMS, THINGS LIKE SAVINGS AUDITS.

TO INCREASE ANY PROGRAMS I FEEL A DISCONNECT.

SO AND WHAT STANDS OUT ARE TWO BIG, VERY BIG TICKETS.

THE COLLEGE FOR ALL PROGRAM INCREASE.

I'D LIKE JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION WHAT THAT IS, AND I'M ASSUMING THAT THE AUDIT WOULD COME BACK, THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE ANYTHING TO CHANGE IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.

BUT THAT'S AN ASSUMPTION.

AND THEN THE ONE POINT ALMOST 2 MILLION IN THE STUDENT BUSSES FOR PLANETARIUM, BIZTOWN STUDENT FEES AND STAFF TRAINING.

THAT'S A VERY BIG BUCKET.

I'D LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL IN THAT.

BUT AGAIN, WHAT IF THE AUDIT COMES BACK WITH ANY KIND OF CHANGES? I'M JUST A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH MAKING ANY KIND OF PROGRAM INCREASES OR DECREASES UNTIL YOU SEE THAT AUDIT. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND I'LL ANSWER IT.

WHICH AUDIT? BECAUSE THESE HARD TO HEAR.

OKAY. I HAVE.

WHICH AUDIT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT.

SCOTT? I'M TALKING ABOUT SCOTT.

CAN WE TURN UP THE VOLUMES? THESE ARE.

TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WHAT AUDIT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? WHICH ONE? WE GOT A LOT OF GIBSON AUDITS.

WHICH ONE? OKAY, I DON'T KNOW.

OKAY. ARE WE READY? OKAY, LISTEN, SO I THINK MS. STANLEY IS REFERRING TO THE AND YES.

SO THE WAY THAT THE PROCESS WILL BE ADDRESSED IS SO WE WOULD MOVE THROUGH THESE ITEMS BECAUSE THIS IS AS PLANNED, THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE FOR YEARS.

THEY'RE CONTINUING TO GROW AND MOVE FORWARD.

ONCE WE RECEIVE THE GIBSON COST SAVINGS AUDIT, AT THAT TIME, WE WOULD REVIEW THE ENTIRE EXPENSE BUDGET AS A WHOLE AND BEGIN TO MAKE THE COST REDUCTIONS THERE.

THAT WOULD LIKELY BE IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, DEPENDING ON WHEN WE RECEIVE THAT AUDIT, BECAUSE AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR BUDGET FIRMED UP BY THE END OF MAY AND PUBLISHED BY LAW AT THE BEGINNING OF JUNE.

BUT WE WOULD LOOK AT ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS AS APPROVED AND MAKE THE DETERMINATIONS AND THE REDUCTIONS BASED ON THAT AUDIT.

AS OF TODAY, WE'RE MOVING THROUGH WITH BOARD APPROVED PROGRAMS AS WE WOULD HAVE HAD INTENDED WITHOUT THE AUDIT.

IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I JUST WANT SOME CLARITY FOR YOU.

SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS SAY WHAT THE MONEY IS GOING TO IN OUR NEXT FINANCIAL MEETING, WITH THE PERMISSION OF OUR CHAIRPERSON FOR THAT IN MAY.

MR. BEACH CAN WE JUST PUT THAT ON THE MAY AGENDA TO START JUST GOING IN A DEEP DIVE WITH THOSE TWO ITEMS ARE AND THAT'S WHY WE DO THIS AHEAD OF TIME.

SO THEN YOU GUYS GET A BETTER FEEL OF WHAT ALL IT IS.

NOW WHAT I WILL SAY THE COST SAVINGS AUDIT IS AUDITING CENTRAL OFFICE STAFFING.

THEY'RE AUDITING OUR ROUTING.

THEY'RE AUDITING OUR CAMPUS STAFFING FROM ELEMENTARY ON UP.

THEY'RE AUDITING OUR PROGRAM USAGE OR THEIR PROGRAMS THAT AREN'T BEING USED TO THEIR FULLEST CAPACITY.

THEY'RE AUDITING ALL OF THOSE THINGS FOR POTENTIAL SAVINGS.

AND SO REMEMBER, 85% OF OUR BUDGET GOES TO STAFFING.

SO THE BIGGEST THE BIGGEST SAVINGS WILL BE ON STAFFING.

AND THEY'RE LOOKING FROM CENTRAL OFFICE TO ALL FACETS OF THE DISTRICT CUSTODIAL, EVERYTHING.

I THOUGHT THAT WE HAD, THOUGH, OR GOING TO DO A PROGRAM AUDIT.

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IS THAT SO AM I JUST SO GRIFFIN YEAH.

SO. SO WHEN THEY SAY PROGRAM, YOU'RE THINKING OF INSTRUCTIONAL PROGRAMS, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT STAFFING PROGRAMS. SO WE'RE USING TWO DIFFERENT WORDS WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THESE PROGRAMS. BUT WHEN HE LOOKS AT THE PROGRAMS AND HOW ROBUST THEY ARE, IF WHAT THEY CALL IF THEY'RE WISE INVESTMENTS, THEY DON'T TOUCH IT.

SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME UP AND TELL YOU TO SAY, WELL, THIS IS YOUR BEST PROGRAM, BUT YOU SHOULD CUT IT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO SAVE YOU THIS MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

RIGHT? BECAUSE OUR JOB IS TO INVEST IN KIDS PREPARATION FOR COLLEGE CAREERS AND IN LIFE.

SO THEY'RE NOT DOING THAT TYPE OF AUDIT UNLESS THERE'S A WASTEFUL PROGRAM OUT THERE.

RIGHT. SO THANK YOU, MR. SELDERS. YES.

ON OUR 2022, 2023 BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS, THERE WERE ONE TIME ADS AND THEN THERE ARE ONGOING ADS AND THERE ARE SOME ONGOING ADS THAT WE HAD IN TERMS OF LIKE PRE-K EXPANSION THAT WERE THERE LAST TIME THAT AREN'T SHOWN HERE.

HOW DOES THAT GET REFLECTED IN THE CURRENT BUDGET OR THE ONE THAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS NOW? THANK YOU. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

SO THE ONGOING ADS, THESE ONGOING ADS ARE NEW.

SO THEY'RE NEW RECOMMENDATIONS.

ANY ONGOING ADS FROM PRIOR YEARS ARE WITHIN THAT CURRENT EXPENSE BUDGET WHEN WE GO DOWN TO THE DETAILS AND YOU SEE SO WHEN YOU SEE PAYROLL, NON PAYROLL, ANY OF THOSE ARE THERE.

THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

AND IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES. SO I SEE THAT WITH THE SRO INCREASES AND COLLEGE FOR ALL, THESE ARE IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED PREVIOUSLY.

SO THESE ARE INCREASES OVER AND ABOVE WHAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY.

THAT'S CORRECT. YES, SIR.

YES. MR GLICK.

I'M SORRY. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, AND IF THERE WAS A AN ONGOING PROGRAMMATIC CHANGE THAT WAS MADE, A DECISION WAS MADE, WE WOULD REFLECT IT AS A REDUCTION ON THE LINE ITEM.

SO YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THAT AS WELL.

THANK YOU, SIR. JUST TO HOPEFULLY ANSWER MS. STANLEY'S QUESTION ABOUT THE SCHOOL BUSSES.

SO IN THE 2014 BOND, WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON GILBREATH-REED, WE MADE AN ADDITION WHICH WAS ADDING BIZTOWN SO WE COULD DO FINANCIAL LITERACY FOR ALL OF OUR SIXTH GRADE KIDS.

AND THAT'S BEEN, I THINK, AN AMAZING ADDITION TO HOW WE TEACH OUR KIDS.

ONE OF THE THINGS QUESTIONS I WOULD ALWAYS GET FROM PARENTS IS THEY LEAVE HIGH SCHOOL.

THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO WRITE A CHECK AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT FINANCIAL LITERACY.

SO I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M PROUDEST OF THAT WE'RE DOING.

AND SO THAT WE BUS ALL OF OUR SIXTH GRADERS THERE AND WE HAVE AND THEY GO THERE FOR SEVERAL DAYS.

IT'S TRAINING BEFORE THEY GET THERE, AND IT'S WORKED OUT VERY WELL.

AS TO THE PLANETARIUM, THAT WAS ANOTHER THING WE ADDED IN THE 2014 BOND BACK WHEN WE HAD REDUCTIONS 2009 AND 10 THE DECISION WAS MADE TO CLOSE THE PLANETARIUM BECAUSE IT WAS OUTMODED AND THE COST WOULD BE PROHIBITIVE TO BRING IT UP TO DATE.

THROUGH THE 2014 BOND WE WENT AHEAD AND DID GO BACK TO LAKEVIEW AND REFURBISH AND MODERNIZE THE PLANETARIUM TO THE POINT NOW WHERE WE HAVE PRE K, K THIRD, FOURTH, FIFTH GRADERS AND SOME HIGH SCHOOL KIDS WHO ARE GOING.

SO THAT'S WHERE ALL THE FEES ARE COMING FROM.

YOU MAY CONTINUE, MA'AM.

THANK YOU, SIR. THIS IS THE GISD RAISE HISTORY SINCE FY 17.

JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE RAISES THAT THE DISTRICT HAS APPROVED AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE YEARS, AND THEN AS REQUESTED, WE HAVE PROVIDED THE RAISE SCENARIOS, BREAKDOWN COMPONENTS, AND IF IT'S HELPFUL TO THE BOARD, I MAY REVIEW THE NEXT FEW SLIDES TOGETHER AND THEN COME BACK TO THIS ONE.

THIS IS A SIMILAR FORMAT THAT WE DID LAST YEAR WHERE WE KIND OF, AS PRESIDENT JOHNSON SORT OF SAID, BUILT OUR OWN RAISE TOGETHER.

SO THIS IS THE RAISE SCENARIO, BREAKDOWN COMPONENTS.

THIS WAS A SPECIFIC BOARD MEMBER REQUEST HERE TO SHOW THE $61,000 STARTING SALARY AND THEN SPECIFIC PERCENTAGE BREAKDOWNS FOR YEARS OF SERVICE AND THEN THE ACCOMMODATING PAY SCHEDULE.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THIS SCENARIO, IF THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT THE BOARD WANTED TO CONSIDER FOR TEACHERS, THAT $9.2 MILLION COULD BE ADDED BACK TO SOME OF THE OTHER COMPONENTS HERE THAT ARE INTERESTED INTO BUILDING.

AND THEN THIS WAS ALSO A RAISE SCENARIO REQUESTED 2% GENERAL PAY INCREASE FOR TEACHERS, COUNSELORS, LIBRARIANS, NURSES WITH THE

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$61,000 STARTING PAY, AND THEN 2.5 FOR OTHER SUPPORT POSITIONS, INCLUDING THE $15 STARTING RATE.

AND THEN IN THIS CASE, THIS COULD BE ADDED TO A GENERAL PAY INCREASE FOR OTHER PAY GRADES.

SO YOU COULD SIMPLY TAKE THAT 1% LINE OR YOU COULD INCREASE IT.

AND THEN THIS IS THE PROPOSED 1.25% GENERAL PAY INCREASE FOR TEACHERS AND 1% FOR OTHER STAFF THAT WE BROUGHT TO THE BOARD IN OUR LAST PRESENTATION.

AND THAT $10.3 MILLION IS FOR EVERYONE.

AND THEN WE HAD A SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT THE OTHER FIGURE, WHICH DOES NOT INCLUDE PAY CODES 113 THROUGH 115. IT SAVES ABOUT $21,000 FOR ASSISTANT SUP AND ABOVE IT'S ABOUT EIGHT STAFF MEMBERS.

SO THESE ARE OUR SCENARIOS THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORTH TO THE BOARD TODAY FOR DISCUSSION.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S BREAK THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

SO WE HAVE SCENARIO ONE, WHICH WAS ONE THAT WAS RECOMMENDED AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING, CORRECT? YES, SIR. WELL, ACTUALLY, IT WAS A FINANCE MEETING.

AND THAT'S THE WHAT AMOUNTS TO IT SAYS 1% ON THE TOP, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY A 1.25% INCREASE.

CORRECT? IT'S A 1.25% GENERAL INCREASE FOR TEACHERS AND THEN 1% FOR ALL OTHER PAY GRADES WITH THE ADDITION OF A $15 STARTING RATE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT, INSTRUCTIONAL SUPPORT AND AUXILIARY.

OKAY. BUT THERE'S NO DECOMPRESSION ASSISTANCE ON THIS ONE UNTIL THE 15TH YEAR, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

FOR SO ANYONE WHO IS AT THEIR CURRENT 14TH YEAR, IT WOULD BEGIN NEXT YEAR AT 15.

AND THEN LET'S CALL IT SCENARIO TWO, WHICH IS THE 1.5 GENERAL PAY INCREASE FOR ALL TEACHERS AND STAFF, CORRECT? WE WILL.

YES. YES.

AND THEN THERE'S AN ENHANCEMENT AT YEAR EIGHT, WHICH GOES TO 3%.

AND THERE'S ANOTHER ENHANCEMENT ON PAGE 11.

AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER ENHANCEMENT AT 15, WHICH GOES TO 4.5%.

AND OBVIOUSLY THE 3% AND THE 4.5% IS DESIGNED FOR THE PURPOSE OF DECOMPRESSING THE SALARY SCALE.

YES, SIR. THAT ALSO INCLUDES A $15 MINIMUM PAY FOR HOURLY EMPLOYEES.

THAT'S CORRECT. ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN THERE'S A THIRD SCENARIO, WHICH IS A 2% PAY RAISE ACROSS THE BOARD FOR ALL TEACHERS, COUNSELORS, LIBRARIANS AND NURSES.

NO DECOMPRESSION ASSISTANCE IS PROVIDED IN THAT ONE.

AND THEN EVERYBODY ELSE EFFECTIVELY GETS A 2.5% PAY INCREASE WITH A $15 STARTING RATE.

THAT'S CORRECT. HAVE I ACCURATELY LABELED THE THREE SCENARIOS THAT WE HAVE? YES, SIR.

OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND.

DOES EVERYONE UNDERSTAND THAT? COULD YOU JUST RECAP IT AGAIN? COULD YOU GO TO SCENARIO ONE, TWO AND THREE? SCENARIO ONE IS THE ONE THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US.

I'LL GO THROUGH THE SLIDES AS HE SPEAKS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

AND IT IS THE ADMINISTRATION'S ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS A 1.25% INCREASE FOR FOR ALL TEACHERS.

YOU INCREASE THE STARTING PAY OF THE OF THE NEWEST TEACHERS TO 61,000.

SO THERE IS A $1,000 BUMP IN THE WHOLE SCALE AT THAT POINT.

CORRECT. AND THEN 1.25% ON TOP OF THAT, IF YOU'VE BEEN A 15 YEAR TEACHER OR ABOVE, IT INCLUDES A DECOMPRESSION, WHICH IS OVER HERE IN TINY LITTLE FONT TO THE RIGHT.

SO IF YOU HAVE MAGNIFYING GLASSES, YOU CAN FIGURE THAT OUT.

BUT THERE IS DECOMPRESSION BUILT INTO THIS SCALE FOR 15 YEARS AND ABOVE EVERYONE ELSE GETS A 1% PAY INCREASE.

BUT EVERYTHING WILL SLIDE UP AS TO A $15 STARTING RATE FOR ALL HOURLY EMPLOYEES WITH EQUITY ADJUSTMENTS BUILT INTO THAT.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU WERE MAKING 15.05 AN HOUR AND EVERYONE SLID UP BENEATH YOU TO 15, YOU'RE 15.05 IS GOING TO GO UP TOO BY A PROPORTION OF WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE.

SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANYBODY WORKING IN THE DISTRICT THAT MADE LESS THAN $15 AN HOUR UNDER THIS SCENARIO ONE.

SCENARIO TWO.

IS ON PAGE 11.

IT ALSO FEATURES A $61,000 STARTING SALARY.

SO OUR ENTIRE SCALE SLIDES UP FROM 60 TO 61 AS ITS BASE.

IT PROVIDES A 1.5% PAY INCREASE FOR ALL TEACHERS, REGARDLESS OF YEARS THAT ARE CURRENTLY EMPLOYED WITH THE DISTRICT.

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HOWEVER, IT HAS A MIDDLE TIER FOR DECOMPRESSION, WHICH IS LISTED AT 3% PAY INCREASE FOR YEARS 8 THROUGH 14, AND THEN A 4.5% INCREASE FOR YEARS, 15 AND ABOVE.

IT ALSO FEATURES A $15 MINIMUM SALARY WITH EQUITY ADJUSTMENTS.

THIS SCENARIO IS ONLY FOR THE TEACHERS.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO ADD THAT PORTION INTO THE TOTAL.

DECOMPRESSION WOULD BE ADDED.

YEAH AND THE 15. THIS INCLUDES DECOMPRESSION FOR THE TEACHERS BECAUSE RATHER THAN USE THE DECOMPRESSION SCALE THAT WAS MENTIONED IN SCENARIO ONE, WE'RE GIVING INCREASES TO DECOMPRESS OF 3% FOR THE YEARS 8 THROUGH 14 AND THEN 4.5% FOR YEARS 15 AND ABOVE, WHICH ACCOMPLISHES DECOMPRESSION ON THAT SIDE OF THE EQUATION AS OPPOSED TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EQUATION.

EQUITY.

LET ME ANSWER.

OKAY. SO YOU'RE A RAISE OR EQUITY.

THERE'S NO EQUITY ON THIS ONE.

IT'S STRICTLY PAY RAISES ON THIS ONE IT'S STRICTLY PAY RAISES.

BUT WE DIDN'T INCLUDE THE HOURLY.

SO IF YOU GO BACK TO THE FIRST ONE, GO BACK TO THE FIRST SLIDE.

FIRST SLIDE IS BOTTOM PAY RAISE AND THEN EQUITY BUILT IN AFTER 15 YEARS.

OKAY. SO AFTER 15 YEARS, THAT'S HOW THE DECOMPRESSION GOES.

WE WILL STILL BE AT OR ABOVE MARKET WITH THIS PAY RAISE.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL AMOUNT IT, YOU SEE HOW IT SAYS STARTING ADMIN SUPPORT AND AUXILIARY.

DO YOU SEE THAT ONE? YOU WOULD BE ADDING THAT TO THE SECOND SLIDE.

OKAY. SO WE'RE STILL RECOMMENDING A BUMP FOR EVERYBODY FOR 15 AND, AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IT CHANGES THE PAY SCALE.

SO IF YOU WERE MAKING 15, SOMEBODY WAS MAKING 12, THEORETICALLY YOU WOULD BE MAKING THEY WOULD BE MAKING 15, YOU'D BE MAKING 18 NOW.

SO THAT WAY WE KEEP THAT THROUGH.

OKAY, SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS, BUT IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE BOTTOM PART.

SO THE OTHER ONE IS KIND OF FLAT, BUT PEOPLE WON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WAS LIKE.

AND SO THE BOARD WAS SAYING THIS ISN'T CLEAR TO PEOPLE.

SO ON THE SECOND ONE, IT'S A THREE TIERED SYSTEM TO GET THE DECOMPRESSION JUST ON TEACHERS, FIRST TIER IS ONE AND A HALF, THEN SECOND TIER WE ADDED A POINT AND A HALF TO 3%.

THIRD TIER, WE ADDED A POINT AND A HALF TO 4.5%.

AND IF YOU LOOK, WE GET ALMOST TO THE SAME MARKS AS WE DID BY DOING THIS THREE TIERED SYSTEM.

AND IT'S KIND OF CLEAR TO THE PERSON IF THEY'RE GETTING A ONE AND A HALF, 3 OR 4.5% PAY RAISE.

RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT.

AND THEN YOU WOULD ADD TO THIS 9 MILLION, THE 3 MILLION FOR THAT.

SO AND SO, RIGHT.

AND THEN YOU WOULD STILL HAVE TO ADMIT THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS AFTER THAT.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A TOTAL OF 16 MILLION.

YES. I HAVE AN EXAMPLE I CAN SHARE.

SO IF YOU TOOK THIS AMOUNT AND THEN.

CAN WE NOT BRING UP A ONE OF THOSE PROGRAMS TO CHART STUFF OR EITHER BRING IN A FLIPBOARD OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE THE NEXT ONE THAT'S DEALING WITH 2%.

I WAS ASSUMING IT WAS GOING TO HAVE DECOMPRESSION IN IT, TOO.

SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE ALL OF THESE NUMBERS HAVE ADDITIONS IN THEM.

AND WHEN WE'RE VOTING, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE BOTTOM LINE IS OF THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE VOTING FOR.

SCENARIO THREE DOESN'T HAVE DECOMPRESSION IN IT.

I THINK THAT THAT'S BEING OFFERED AS A PROPOSAL THAT DOES NOT DEAL WITH DECOMPRESSION.

NO, BECAUSE I WAS THE ONE THAT SUBMITTED IT AND I WAS ASSUMING THAT THE DECOMPRESSION WOULD BE IN IT.

I WASN'T SPECIFIC, BUT FOR THREE, THE CHANGE WOULD BE WHAT THE GENERAL PERCENT WAS, IS 2% AND THEN A 2.5 FOR CLERICAL.

BUT LOOK AT WHAT THE NUMBERS WERE FOR DECOMPRESSION AT 15 AND DECOMPRESSION AT EIGHT.

SO DECOMPRESSION IS ON THAT PAGE 10 FOR 15 TO 25.

SO YOU COULD ADD THAT 1 MILLION OF BACK INTO THAT NUMBER TO GET IF YOU WANTED THAT SCENARIO WITH DECOMPRESSION.

SHE ALSO WANTED 8 TO 14 DECOMPRESSION AS WELL IS WHAT SHE SAID.

ADDED IN? OKAY. YEAH.

SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE BOTH.

SO THE 15 IS 1 MILLION.

LET'S SEE ONE.

YES. AND THEN EIGHT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S ON PAGE SEVEN.

I THINK THAT MAY IF I COULD JUST REVIEW THAT HANDOUT, I THINK THAT IT COULD HAVE THE EARLIER YEARS IN THERE BECAUSE THAT IS REQUIRED TO

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GET IT TO $61,000.

SO THAT PIECE ISN'T LIKE THE ADDITIONAL IT'S REQUIRED FOR THE PIECE.

THE ADDITIONAL EQUITY REQUIRED REQUESTED IS THAT MILLION DOLLARS AND THAT'S THE EXTRA BULLET POINT.

SO THAT PART IN THE BEGINNING TO GET IT THERE IS REQUIRED TO GET EVERYONE TO 61,000 AND TO MAKE SURE THOSE FIRST FEW YEARS FLOW THROUGH CORRECTLY.

SO THE FIRST YEARS ARE INCLUDED IN THAT FIGURE MS. GRIFFIN. IF YOU WANTED TO ADD THE LATER YEARS DECOMPRESSION, YOU'D HAVE TO ADD THE MILLION TO THAT TOTAL.

BUT YOU'RE SAYING IN THE I'M GOING TO GO TO MY PAGE, IT'S IN? IN THAT $6 MILLION DOLLARS.

YES. ON PAGE.

RESTATE THAT WHAT'S IN THE 6 MILLION.

ON PAGE 12? YES I'M THERE IT'S NINE IN OUR BOOK.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THAT 2% INCREASE, THAT'S $6 MILLION AT 61,000.

THOSE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE HERE FOR ZERO THROUGH THREE ON THIS SLIDE IS ACCOUNTED FOR THERE BECAUSE IT REQUIRES THOSE NUMBERS TO GET EVERYONE TO $61,000 SO THAT THE OTHER YEARS ARE NOW FLOWING THROUGH CORRECTLY.

OKAY. SO SOME DECOMPRESSION IS IN THE NUMBERS.

IT'S IN THE TOP PART.

YES, MA'AM. AND THEN BUT IF YOU WANTED TO ADD STARTING AT YEAR 15, YOU WOULD WANT TO ANOTHER MILLION. YES, MA'AM.

OKAY. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE SAYING ONE THING AND THEN.

SO THANK YOU FOR CLARITY.

YES, MA'AM. THAT'S CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT. SO IF WE LOOK AT EIGHT AND.

OH, I'M SORRY. NO, YOU GO AHEAD.

IF WE'RE LOOKING AT 8 AND 15, WOULD ADD 1 MILLION TO THIS 10 MILLION, THAT'S A TOTAL OF THE 2.5 ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT WITH 15 STARTING RATE AND 2.5 FOR INSTRUCTIONAL SUPPORT AND THEN 2.5 FOR OUR AUXILIARY STAFF STARTING THERE.

YES. SO WHAT WE DID ON THERE, WHAT YOU DID ON THERE WAS SPLIT OUT THE CATEGORIES OF HOURLY.

YES. INSTEAD OF US NOT KNOWING WHAT HOURLY IS.

THAT'S CORRECT. YES.

SO FOR A JUST A SCENARIO IN THIS, YOU THEORETICALLY COULD HAVE THIS 10.7, WHICH TAKES CARE OF YOUR TEACHERS, COUNSELORS, LIBRARIANS AND NURSES.

IN THIS SCENARIO, YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE INSTRUCTIONAL AUXILIARY STAFF INCREASE WITH THE $15 AND THEN YOUR REMAINING ITEMS WOULD BE IF YOU WANTED TO CONSIDER A GENERAL PAY INCREASE FOR ALL OTHER PAY GRADES.

AND SO IF YOU WANTED TO ADD A 1% TO THAT, YOU WOULD BE AT JUST OVER 12 MILLION.

AND THEN YOU WOULD WANT TO CONSIDER, IF YOU WANTED TO CONSIDER THAT OTHER DECOMPRESSION FOR THE FUTURE YEARS, YOU COULD ADD THAT OTHER MILLION.

OKAY, SO THIS PAGE IS OUR CALCULATIONS OF ALL ADDITIONS THAT WE COULD ADD TO THE EXISTING SCENARIOS THAT'S PRINTED IN THE BOOKLET.

YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT.

YES, THANK YOU. YES, THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM. OH, SORRY.

THAT'S OKAY.

SORRY. I GOT EXCITED.

ME TOO. OKAY.

BUT SO.

BUT IT WOULD ONLY ADDRESS THE 15 TO THAT MILLION 71 ONLY ADDRESSES 15 OR GREATER FOR THE TEACHERS.

RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT. THE DECOMPRESSION.

BUT WHAT'S THE NUMBER IF WE WANTED TO DO THE 8 THROUGH 14? WE HAVE NOT CALCULATED THAT NUMBER.

OKAY. OKAY.

THAT'S FAIR. SO WE IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR ME TO THEORIZE ON THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD CHANGE EVERY LEVEL OF PERCENTAGE THERE.

NO, I GET IT. OKAY.

BUT THAT SO IF WE WANTED SPECIFICALLY TO TARGET THAT 8 TO 14 AND THEN 15 AND GREATER, WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER NUMBER? ANOTHER. AND I DON'T KNOW IF, IF DR.

BROWN WANTS TO SPEAK TO THIS OR NOT, IF SHE HAS INFORMATION, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT WHENEVER WE LOOK AT COMPRESSION AND I HOPE I CAN ACCURATELY EXPLAIN IT WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH THE DECOMPRESSION AS WE MOVE THROUGH THESE SCALES, THERE IS A LOT OF VARIABLES AT PLAY.

AND SO TO ADD, ALL THAT DECOMPRESSION STARTS TO BREAK THE PIPELINES AS WE GO THROUGH THE REST OF OUR PAY SCALE.

SO ANY TIME WE UPDATE THOSE PIECES, WE ARE NOW RIPPLING OUT INTO THE REST OF THE PAY SCALE AND CAUSING ADDITIONAL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AS WELL.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT AN ENTIRE STUDY TO FIGURE THOSE PIECES OUT BECAUSE IT CHANGES EVERYBODY THAT

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FALLS BELOW THAT ITEM, IF THAT MAKES SENSE, AND THEN EVERYONE THAT COMES OUT.

SO IF YOU'RE A TEACHER AND YOU WANT TO GO INTO ADMINISTRATION OR INTO ANOTHER FIELD, IT CHANGES ALL OF THOSE PIECES.

AND SO WE WOULD IN THAT CASE, HAVE TO REQUEST AN ADDITIONAL STUDY.

SO JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME AN IDEA OF HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS.

SO JUST TO CLARIFY, BECAUSE I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON MS. GRIFFIN'S COMMENT, THEN I'LL GET TO YOU, MR. GLICK. UNDER THIS SCENARIO THREE, IF YOU WERE TO ADD DECOMPRESSION, YOU WOULD BE ADDING $1,071,557 TO THE $10,779,939 THAT'S LISTED THERE.

THAT'S CORRECT. SO AN ACCURATE THING FOR SCENARIO THREE WITH DECOMPRESSION.

IT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF $11,851,000, THAT'S CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT. AND THEN WITH SCENARIO TWO AND MR. PRESIDENT JOHNSON, YOU MAY, BUT THAT WOULD BE NO INCREASE TO ANY OF THE OTHER PAY GRADES.

I JUST WANT UNDER TO REPORT THAT.

UNDER SCENARIO THREE. UNDER SCENARIO THREE SO THAT WOULD CAPTURE ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT, INSTRUCTIONAL SUPPORT, AUXILIARY STAFF, TEACHERS, NURSES, COUNSELORS, LIBRARIANS.

AND THEN THE OTHER PAY GRADES ARE NOT CAPTURED HERE.

SO HAVE TO ADD ANOTHER MILLION THAT'S RIGHT. YES.

FOR PAY GRADES? CORRECT.

OKAY. BE ABOUT 13.

YES. SO IT WOULD END UP BEING ROUGHLY ABOUT 13 MILLION.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. GRIFFIN.

WHICH ONES ARE THOSE? DOES THIS EVER INCLUDE THE ONES THAT WERE ORIGINALLY EXCLUDED WHEN WE WENT WITH THE 1%? THEY DO NOT? SO WE WOULD HAVE TO INCLUDE THOSE IF WE'RE GOING HIGHER THAN 1%, BECAUSE THE AGREEMENT THAT WE SAID WAS THOSE STAY FROZEN IF WE'RE STAYING AT 1%.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE SAID BEFORE WE PRESENTED IT.

THE $21,000? YES. YEAH, WE COULD BACK THAT AMOUNT OUT.

I MEAN. OKAY, SO ADD ANOTHER 21.

YEAH. INTO THAT.

SO WE GET SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING.

YES. SO AND ON SCENARIO TWO.

SO I'VE CALCULATED THAT OUT BY ADDING THE 1% GENERAL PAY INCREASE, THE $1.61 MILLION DOLLAR FIGURE AND THE $3.93 MILLION DOLLAR FOR THE 15 STARTING RATE, ADDING THOSE TWO DOWN INTO SCENARIO TWO.

WOULD YOU AGREE THAT THOSE WERE TWO THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ADDED TO THAT? AND IN ADDITION TO THAT IS A 1% GENERAL PAY INCREASE FOR COUNSELORS, LIBRARIANS AND NURSES.

SO ABOUT $273,000 ON TOP OF THAT.

THAT WOULD BRING US TO RIGHT AT 15 MILLION FOR SCENARIO TWO.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A LITTLE NORTH OF 13 MILLION FOR SCENARIO THREE AND RIGHT ABOUT 15 MILLION FOR SCENARIO TWO.

AND SCENARIO ONE REMAINS STATIC BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS PRESENTED BY THE ADMINISTRATION.

YES. 10 MILLION.

10.3. AND MR. PRESIDENT, WHAT'S THE BENEFIT OF SCENARIO TWO? IT'S MORE. BUT WHAT ARE WE PICKING UP THERE? I GUESS THE BENEFIT OF SCENARIO TWO IS IT OUTLINES THE EXACT AMOUNT OF THE RAISE FOR EACH CATEGORY OF TEACHERS SO THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR RAISE IS AS OPPOSED TO USING A DECOMPRESSION FORMULA.

AND IT ONLY THE DECOMPRESSION FORMULA ONLY AFFECTS 15 YEARS AND UP.

THAT WOULD BE WELL. SHE'S ASKING WHAT THE BENEFIT OF SCENARIO TWO IS.

TWO IS MORE. BECAUSE YOU'RE ADDING THE 8 THROUGH 14 CATEGORY INTO IT.

THEY'RE GETTING ADDITIONAL MONEY, WHEREAS UNDER SCENARIOS ONE, THEY'RE NOT GETTING ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY.

AND UNDER SCENARIO THREE, THEY'RE NOT GETTING ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY APART FROM THE GENERAL PAY INCREASE BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST BEING CALCULATED AS PART OF THE DECOMPRESSION FOR 15 YEARS AND ABOVE. SCENARIO TWO IS THE ONLY ONE THAT DECOMPRESSES FROM 8 TO 14 YEARS.

MR. GLICK. YEAH.

THANK YOU, SIR. SO I THINK I'M PROBABLY RESPONSIBLE FOR NUMBER TWO, BUT GLADLY SO.

BECAUSE AS I SAID AT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE TWO WEEKS AGO, WE NEED TO KEEP OUR SENIOR TEACHERS AND WE NEED TO SHOW THEM THAT WE APPRECIATE HOW HARD THEIR JOB IS.

WE ALSO NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFICULTY IN REPLACING EXISTING SENIOR TRAINED TEACHERS WITH NEW TEACHERS.

AS DR. ADAMS SAID EVEN AT THE LAST MEETING, WE'RE BRINGING IN TEACHERS, NON CERTIFIED TEACHERS, NON TRAINED TEACHERS, AND THEY LAST A WEEK AND THEY'RE GONE. WHAT KIND OF EDUCATION ARE OUR KIDS GETTING THERE? WHEN I WENT BACK, I LOOKED AT 16 YEARS OF HISTORY OF TEACHERS WHO'VE LEFT US AND I FELT GOING BACK TO THE

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EIGHTH YEAR WAS ABOUT RIGHT.

WHEN WE LOSE THOSE TEACHERS, IT'S A GAP THAT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO FILL.

SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF TWO WITH SOME MODIFICATIONS, POSSIBLY.

BUT I THINK, AGAIN, WE DID THIS LAST YEAR.

I THINK WE WERE VERY BOLD LAST YEAR WE WENT TO 60,000 AND WE WENT TO A 5% RAISE FOR ALL THE TEACHERS.

OTHER DISTRICTS WERE SHOCKED THAT WE DID IT AND EVENTUALLY SOME OF THEM COPIED US.

BUT WE WERE FOREFRONT.

WE NEED TO DO THE SAME THING AGAIN.

THANK YOU, SIR. MS. GRIFFIN. YES.

AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ONE OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT I THINK 1.51 FOR GENERAL PAY FOR OUR EXISTING STAFF AND EVERYONE IS NOT ENOUGH.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT ADJUSTED TO TWO.

WHAT WOULD THAT NUMBER BE? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SCENARIO TWO.

I'M TALKING ABOUT SCENARIO ONE.

THE ONE THAT WE'RE SAYING IS, IS 15 MILLION.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS DISAGREEING WITH WHAT.

THAT'S TWO YEAH. I'M WITH YOU.

SO THE 1.5 LISTED THERE IS THOSE ARE ALL FOR TEACHERS.

SO IF YOU WANTED TO CONSIDER A 1 OR 2% OR 1.5 ON TOP OF THAT FOR THE OTHER PAY CATEGORIES, YOU WOULD WANT TO GO BACK TO THE PRECEDING SLIDE AND ADD THE APPROPRIATE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER.

SO IF YOU WOULD JUST TAKE THE 1%, YOU COULD ADD 1% TO 9.21.

OKAY. TELL ME ON OUR BREAKDOWN COMPONENT PAGE.

YES, MA'AM. IF WE WANTED TO DO A 2% INCREASE THERE FOR THE GENERAL PAY INCREASE THAT'S SHOWN ON TWO.

WHAT WOULD THAT NUMBER BE? IT'D BE ABOUT $3.2 MILLION DOLLARS.

AND YOU WOULD WANT TO ADD THAT TO THE 9.2.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE COMING, RIGHT? WAIT A MINUTE.

IT TAKES IT TO 18. IT WILL TAKE IT TO 18.

I JUST. I THINK IF WE CAN, WE NEED TO DO BOTH.

1.5 JUST SEEMS LIKE, WHY AM I HERE? WITH ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE DECOMPRESSION AND ALL OF THAT, BUT I JUST THINK TWO OUGHT TO BE THAT MINIMUM NUMBER.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING FOR OUR PARAS AND.

THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T EVEN SEE SEE THEIR RAISE ONCE TRS KICKS IN OUR INSURANCE KICKS IN.

AND THAT WAS THE REASON FOR TRYING TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE MORE.

I KNOW 15% I MEAN, $15 WILL HELP, BUT WHAT ABOUT THOSE THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE FOURTH QUARTILE AND THINGS LIKE THAT? SO TO ME, WE GOT WE GOT 3 OR 4 GROUPS OF PEOPLE THAT WE NEED TO SHOW OUR APPRECIATION.

YOU KNOW, IF THE MONEY IS BASICALLY THERE.

BUT THAT 1.5 JUST KIND OF IT JUST GRABS ME WRONG.

EXPLAIN HOW THE $15 RAISE AFFECTS THE FOURTH QUARTILE PEOPLE ON THE UPPER END OF EXPERIENCE.

SO IF PEOPLE ARE JUMPING TO 15, WHAT DOES IT DO TO SOMEBODY THAT'S AT THAT LEVEL? I THINK THIS WAS A CONFUSING POINT FOR SOME PEOPLE WHEN WE SAID 60,000 STARTING RATE AND LAST YEAR WE HAD TEACHERS, WELL, I DON'T EVEN MAKE 60.

I'VE BEEN IN THE JOB SEVEN YEARS AND WE'RE LIKE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ADJUSTED AS WELL RIGHT? AND THEN WHEN PEOPLE SAW THE COMPRESSION, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN UNDER THIS TYPE OF COMPRESSION AND THE MAJORITY OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MOVE AWAY FROM IT. BUT NOW WE'RE GOING TO OUR HOURLY RATE.

AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT HOURLY RATE, EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENS IF $15 AN HOUR HITS SOMEBODY IN THE FOURTH QUARTILE, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? SO I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A $15 RAISE, WE'RE OFTENTIMES THINKING ABOUT EVERYONE WHO MAKES BELOW THAT RATE.

AND SO OBVIOUSLY, THE IDEA IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BRING THOSE PEOPLE UP TO $15.

WITH THAT SAID, THERE IS ALSO THE MANEUVERING AND THE MATH THAT HAS TO TAKE PLACE TO BRING THE WHOLE PAY SCALE ON EVERYONE THAT CORRESPONDS TO THAT.

SO IT ISN'T NECESSARILY JUST THE PEOPLE IN THAT PAY SCALE, IT'S THEIR SUPERVISORS, IT'S THE PEOPLE ABOVE THEM.

BECAUSE WHEN WE DO THESE TASB STUDIES AND WE LOOK AT THESE CHANGES, WE APPLY THE EFFECT TO THE WHOLE EVERYONE, THE WHOLE

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PAY SCALE, THE PEOPLE THAT REPORT TO THEM, AND THEN POTENTIALLY THE JOBS THAT THEY ARE PLANNING TO GO INTO IN THEIR FUTURE.

SO THAT NUMBER ACCOUNTS FOR ALL OF THAT EQUITY ADJUSTMENT TO GET EVERYONE TO 15 AND THEN THE EQUITY ADJUSTMENTS FOR EVERYONE ABOVE.

MS. STANLEY. OKAY, I'M GRASPING IT.

BUT I'M AT HOME AND I'M WORKING FROM GISD RIGHT NOW AND I MAKE 17 AN HOUR AND EVERYONE'S GOING TO COME TO 15.

AND THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WONDERING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THEIR PAY.

BUT THEIR PAY IS NOT GOING TO STAY STATIC AT THE 17.

IT'S GOING TO GO UP.

BASICALLY MATHEMATICALLY EQUIVALENT TO HOW THE REST OF THEM WENT TO 15, CORRECT? THERE WOULD BE THE RAISE THAT WAS VOTED ON, PLUS THE EQUITY PIECE THAT IS ACCOMPANIES THAT $15 AN HOUR PART.

THAT'S CORRECT. MR. BEACH. WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

HOLD ON. I JUST WANT CLARITY ON THIS PART.

$17 BEFORE ONCE YOU GET THERE.

$17, YOU WERE SAYING, RIGHT? 17 HOW MUCH WERE THE OTHER PEOPLE MAKING BEFORE THE 15? GIVE US A NUMBER. TEN, 12.

$12 AN HOUR, SOMEBODY MAKING 17 AND THESE ARE ENTRY LEVEL POSITIONS COMING IN AT 12.

USE THOSE TWO PARAMETERS TO SHOW HOW THAT 17 WOULD MOVE.

MR. BEACH.

NOT TO THROW A WRENCH IN IT, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS ON.

ANSWER THE QUESTION.

LET HER ANSWER. YEAH, GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THE QUESTION.

OKAY, I WILL ANSWER THIS TO MY KNOWLEDGE, AND THEN WE DO HAVE HR HERE IF WE WANT TO DIG INTO SOME MORE DETAILS BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PAY STUDIES.

BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING FROM $12 TO $15, THAT'S A VERY CLEAR AND DEFINED PERCENTAGE.

OKAY. WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS.

WHEN WE'RE GOING TO 17.

IT ISN'T OFTEN TIMES THE EXACT PERCENTAGE TO GET FROM 12 TO 15.

SO THAT'S A PERCENTAGE.

AND THEN THERE'S A DECOMPRESSION THAT MOVES THROUGH THE SCALE.

IT'S SIMILAR TO THIS TEACHER PAY SCALE.

AND SO ALL OF THAT IS REVIEWED TO MAKE SURE THAT EACH STEP AND EACH PAY SCALE IS A SIMILAR DISTANCE APART AS IT WAS BEFORE WITH AN EQUITY INCREASE. DID THAT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

NOW THE WRENCH, MR. BEACH. MR. BEACH PLEASE THROW YOUR WRENCH.

[LAUGHTER] MS. MAYO. JUST THROW IT AT ME.

I'M CURIOUS ON THE PAGE FIVE THE LEGISLATIVE UPDATES ON HOUSE BILL 100 AND ALSO THE SENATE BILL NINE.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BASIC ALLOTMENT AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE TODAY BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IS THE BASELINE FOR THE 2 K WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SCENARIOS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'RE TOSSING AROUND A LOT OF NUMBERS AND YET WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE BASIC ALLOTMENT AND WHAT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE IN THESE TWO BILLS.

SO THAT'S A REALLY GREAT QUESTION.

AND I'LL SHARE WITH YOU BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH THIS SIMILAR PROCEDURE WITH HOUSE BILL THREE.

SO WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

WE KNEW THERE WAS GOING TO BE A BILL THAT WAS LIKELY GOING TO CHANGE THE SALARY STRUCTURE.

AND SO THE RAISE THAT WE PROPOSED AT THAT TIME WAS GOING TO BE GREATER THAN WHAT THE BILL WAS GOING TO ISOLATE US INTO.

AND SO WHEN WE GOT SO WE WENT AHEAD, WE MOVED FORWARD.

AND THEN IN THAT SCENARIO, WE CAME BACK.

IF YOU REMEMBER, WE DID SOME RAISE IMPLEMENTATION, WE REVIEWED AND THEN WE CAME BACK IN JULY.

IN THIS CASE, WE KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE WHAT $100 DOES BASED ON CURRENT LAW.

NOW IF THEY CHANGE THE PERCENTAGES, THAT COULD CHANGE.

BUT WITH THE SCENARIOS THE BOARD IS TALKING ABOUT TODAY, IF THESE OPTIONS WERE IMPLEMENTED, I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE WOULD LIKELY MORE THAN EXCEED WHAT THE STATUTE WOULD REQUIRE US TO DO ANYWAY BASED ON THE $100 OR $200 INCREASE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

IS THE $2,000 INCREASE PROVIDED FOR BY SENATE BILL 9 FUNDED BY THE LEGISLATURE? WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

I MEAN, IT'S A ONE TIME PAY INCREASE.

I'M ASSUMING THAT MEANS THAT ONE TIME WE GET THE CASH AND THEN THE REST OF THE TIME IT'S ON US.

IT'S UP TO US. AND SO WE'VE EXPERIENCED SIMILAR THINGS IN THE PAST.

AND SO I THINK THE IDEA FOR THEM WOULD BE TO US TO POSSIBLY BE FUNDED BY THE STATE IN THE BEGINNING, AND THEN WE KEEP GOING WITH IT AFTER THAT.

BUT THAT WOULD BE A DECISION THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE ROOM TO REVIEW.

I GUESS, FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS SESSION TODAY.

I MEAN, IF WE'RE PLANNING THIS OUT AND WE ADOPT ONE OF THESE RAISE SCENARIOS, THAT'S CLEARLY GOING TO PROBABLY ECLIPSE WHAT THEY'RE

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DISCUSSING AS A ONE TIME RAISE.

IS THAT EFFECTIVELY GOING TO PROVIDE US RELIEF FOR ONE YEAR OVER WHAT THE ACTIONS WE TAKE OR WOULD THE LEGISLATURE BE? YOU NEED TO NOW PROVIDE ANOTHER 2K ABOVE WHAT WE JUST DID.

I MEAN, THAT'S MY CONCERN HERE.

MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT BASED ON AGAINST LAST YEAR'S SALARY STRUCTURE OR IS IT BASED OFF ANY SALARY STRUCTURE THAT'S BEEN APPROVED BY THE BOARD PRIOR TO THIS BILL PASSING? SO WITH SO THE 2000 IS THAT'S JUST A STRAIGHT DEPENDING ON THE STUDENTS THAT YOU HAVE IN THE DISTRICT.

SO THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BASIC ALLOTMENT AND THE CURRENT PERCENTAGES.

IT'S JUST SIMPLY BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE GENERATED FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT.

AND SO IT DOESN'T TAKE OUR IN THIS THAT PARTICULAR EXAMPLE, IT DOESN'T TAKE OUR PAY SCALE INTO ACCOUNT.

AND SO IT SAYS IF YOU GENERATED X GENERATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT AND YOU HAVE TO BREAK IT OUT IN THESE PERCENTAGES.

LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT WAS ADOPTED TODAY FELL SHORT.

THEN WE WOULD TAKE THAT ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE BASIC ALLOTMENT AND FILL IN THE GAPS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE STATE.

IF WE EXCEEDED JUST LIKE WE DID WITH HOUSE BILL THREE, THEN WE EXCEEDED, BASED ON THE BOARD'S DECISION TO PROVIDE FOR THE STAFF IN THAT TIME AND WE CARRIED FORWARD.

AND THEN THAT WAS ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT SUPPORTED US THROUGH THE YEARS.

SO AND I MAY NOT BE FOLLOWING HERE, WHICH IS NOT UNUSUAL.

IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY ALREADY, BUT 2K TO DISTRICTS.

ARE YOU SAYING THAT'S 2K ADDITIONAL TO OUR BASIC ALLOTMENT? THE S BILL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SENATE BILL 9.

I'M TALKING ABOUT I'M SORRY.

I SPOKE ABOUT HOUSE BILL 100.

I'M TALKING ABOUT SENATE BILL 9 SPECIFICALLY. SENATE BILL NINE AS IT READS NOW, BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S JUST SUGGESTING A ONE TIME PAY INCREASE TO TEACHERS.

IN OUR CASE, IT WOULD BE $2,000.

AND I WOULD EXPECT THE STATE WOULD PROVIDE SOME FUNDING IN SOME WAY FOR THAT.

AND JUST PLEASE KEEP IN MIND, OFTENTIMES WHEN THEY PROVIDE FUNDING, IT'S A TIT FOR TAT AND SOMETIMES WE DON'T AND IT'S NOT AN OVERALL INCREASE.

THE ONE OTHER THING, THOUGH, THAT I WANT TO MENTION IS THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE ADA SIDE OF INCREASING THAT OUR NUMBER AND THAT THEY ARE SAYING THAT THAT INCREASE GOES TOWARDS TEACHER SALARY. IS THAT A CORRECT STATEMENT? HOUSE BILL 100.

HOUSE BILL 100 IS NOT GOING TO GIVE US MUCH MONEY.

AND THE NEW HOUSE BILL IS GOING TO MANDATE THAT 50% OF ANY MONEY UNLESS THE LANGUAGE CHANGES HAS TO GO TO TEACHER PAY RAISES.

SO WHAT WE'RE GIVING ARE THE PAY RAISES, WHAT WE'RE GIVING RIGHT NOW FAR EXCEEDS THAT.

SO I BELIEVE IF YOU LOOK AT THE INCREASING ALLOTMENT, I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE $15 MILLION DOLLARS WE'RE GOING TO GET TOTAL NEXT YEAR.

YES. OKAY.

AND YOU'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT A 16 MILLION RAISE.

AND SO IN THEORY, 15 MILLION HALF OF THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO TO TEACHERS.

WELL, TO RAISES.

SO IF YOU DO HALF OF THAT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 7.5 MILLION.

EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR SCENARIOS IS WAY ABOVE THAT.

OKAY. BUT THEY'RE NOT GIVING US MUCH MONEY.

THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE US ABOUT $15 MILLION DOLLARS.

AND SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE BASED ON TOTAL ENROLLMENT ANYMORE.

THAT'S GONE OUT THE WINDOW.

BASICALLY, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE ADA.

IT'S ALWAYS BASED ON ADA.

SO. IT'S BEEN TOSSED AROUND ABOUT THAT, THAT POSSIBILITY OF ENROLLMENT.

THEY THREW THAT OUT BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT'D BE TOO COSTLY.

SO WE HAVE THE ADA RULES STILL IN EFFECT.

AND SO AND WE'RE LOOKING AT PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR THAT THEY'RE GIVING US.

AND SO THIS SECOND BILL ABOUT FOR TEACHERS AND THEY SAY 2K TO SCHOOL DISTRICTS, WE GOT TO SEE HOW THAT IS ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. THE 2K IF YOU'RE ALREADY APPROVED A RAISE, IT COULD MEAN THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND 2K YOU ADD TO IT, BUT IT'S ONLY A ONE TIME PAYMENT. OKAY.

OR YOU GET THE WHOLE TWO K, BUT IT'S ONLY A ONE TIME PAYMENT.

SO IT'S UPSETTING TEACHERS BECAUSE THIS WON'T REALLY AFFECT TRS.

BE A ONE TIME PAYMENT.

IT JUST SEEMS MORE SYMBOLIC THAN ANYTHING.

OKAY. AND THAT'S THE SENATE BILL 9.

YES, SIR. OKAY. BECAUSE I WANT TO FOCUS ON THAT FOR A SECOND.

EVERYONE WANTS TO JUMP BACK TO HOUSE BILL 100.

I GET IT. THAT'S THE GENERAL SCHOOL FUNDING PACKAGE AND SUCH.

BUT THAT AFFECTS EVERY ASPECT OF OUR DISTRICT, NOT JUST THIS PARTICULAR ONE OF TEACHER PAY RAISE.

SB NINE IS GEARED EXACTLY ON WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS TEACHER PAY INCREASES.

AND I GUESS MY QUESTION IS THIS, AND BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO STEP IN SOMETHING TODAY, THE 2K THAT THEY'RE DISCUSSING IF WE PASS BECAUSE GENERALLY MY THOUGHT IS ANY SCENARIO WE PASS HERE IS NOTHING THAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS

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REALLY GOING TO AFFECT WHAT WE'RE DOING.

BUT IF THEY DID PASS SENATE BILL NINE, THAT COULD BE MONEY WE GET BACK ONE TIME AGAINST WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.

IS THAT FAIR? BUT IT SHOULDN'T PROHIBIT ANYTHING WE DO TODAY SHOULDN'T PROHIBIT OUR ABILITY TO CLAIM THAT THAT MONEY? NO. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I'M.

NO.

TO DR. LOPEZ'S POINT IS, ONCE WE GET THE DETAILS OF THE BILL, WE MAY DETERMINE THAT WE HAVE ALREADY SATISFIED THIS REQUIREMENT IN THE DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE THIS MONTH.

OKAY. MUCH LIKE HOUSE BILL THREE.

THE ONE THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS IN HOUSE BILL 100, WHICH INCREASES THAT GIVES $7,000 UP TO SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO GET TO THE NEW MINIMUM PAY SALARY, WHICH I THINK GOES FROM LIKE $35,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO $43,000, WHICH WE FAR EXCEED.

I MEAN, AND IT WILL NEVER GO ABOVE THAT.

THERE'S NO WAY THEY CAN REALLY AFFORD US INTO THE 60S.

SO THAT WOULDN'T APPLY TO US.

AND I THINK THAT'S SO THERE IS SOME VERY STRONG DISCUSSION ON THE FUNDING FORMULAS FOR REVENUE AND THAT IS FOCUSED ON SPECIAL EDUCATION TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL ALLOTMENTS TO OUR GENERAL REVENUE FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION.

OKAY. YES. AND SO THERE ARE THOSE TYPES OF FORMULA CALCULATIONS THAT WOULD AFFECT OUR REVENUE.

AND THERE ARE SOME OTHER ONES THAT ARE LIKE THAT, TOO.

AND BUT THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT SPECIAL EDUCATION.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THE THREE SCENARIOS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO WHAT WOULD AFFECT IT HAS ON OUR ESTIMATES AND BUDGET? CAN WE JUST GO AND SAY WHAT THE TOTAL IS OF ONE, WHAT THE TOTAL IS OF TWO AND WHAT THE TOTAL IS OF THREE AND TWO ADDING 2% . [LAUGHTER] WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.

HOW LONG DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD NEED TO CALCULATE THAT? MS. MAYO.

OKAY, SO WE HAVE SCENARIO ONE.

SO THAT ONE IS EASY.

THAT ONE IS SCENARIO.

LET'S START THERE.

SCENARIO THREE IS ALSO DONE.

I MEAN, I THINK WE KNOW IT'S CURRENTLY 13 MILLION.

WE'RE TRYING TO INCORPORATE, YES.

SO SCENARIO THREE WITH THE 10.7 PLUS 1% TO ALL OTHERS.

PLUS 1 MORE THAT'S 13 MILLION.

AND THEN WITH SCENARIO IS THAT THIS? I THINK WE DECIDED SCENARIO TWO WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 18 MILLION.

18 MILLION. THAT'S CORRECT, YES.

SO 18 SO. THAT'S RIGHT.

WHERE YOU HAVE A 1% THERE.

RIGHT. LET'S REVIEW.

LET'S REVIEW. SO THIS IS SCENARIO ONE ON YOUR SCREEN.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

OKAY. SO SCENARIO I'M GOING TO WRITE THESE DOWN.

ONE IS THIS.

YOU GOT SOME HELPERS OVER THERE SO WE CAN GET THESE THESE NUMBERS RIGHT.

SO WE.

I AM SURE THEY ARE FURIOUSLY CORRECTING AND WRITING.

THEN THIS IS SCENARIO TWO THAT'S PRESENTED HERE.

SO THIS IS THE TEACHERS.

SO WE HAVE THE 9.2.

WE ADD IN 1% FOR COUNSELORS, WE ADD IN 1% FOR ALL OTHER PAY GRADES AND THE $15 MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE.

AND THAT PUTS US AT 15.

AND WE WANT TO ADD CHANGE THE 1.5 GENERAL TO TWO.

SO ALL THE INSTEAD OF 1.6 FOR ALL OTHER PAY GRADES, THAT'LL BE 2% FOR THE 3.2.

AND START THE TEACHERS AT TWO? SO MAYBE.

CAN WE? WE'RE NOT ADJOURN. TAKE A BREAK, A RECESS IN THE MEETING UNTIL 4:15.

THAT GIVES YOU 20 MINUTES.

AND BEFORE YOU BREAK, CAN YOU TELL ME THE SCENARIO THAT YOU WANT ME TO CALCULATE? JUST SO I UNDERSTAND.

WE WANT YOU TO WORK ON TWO? OKAY. AND THAT'S A 2% FOR EVERYONE.

EVERYONE.

LARRY? BASICALLY, THERE'S NO 1.5.

IT'S 2% FOR EVERYONE WITH INSTEAD OF A ONE ADDING A 1% GENERAL PAY INCREASE FOR THEIR PAY GRADES, IT'S A 2% PAY INCREASE, 2% FOR TEACHERS, NURSES, COUNSELORS, 2% FOR ALL OTHER PAY GRADES, $15, BRINGING EVERYONE.

ALONG WITH THE THREE AND THE FOUR.

OKAY.AND THE THREE AND THE 4, 5.

YEAH. OKAY.

OKAY. SO WE NEED FLIP CHARTS, Y'ALL.

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ALL THESE DIGITAL FOLKS, WE DIDN'T BRING UP A JOT DOT OR WHATEVER IT IS.

OKAY. WE COULD HAVE BEEN DOING A.

OKAY. I AM READY.

THANK YOU FOR REITERATING THAT.

I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OKAY. WE ARE RECESSED TO.

IT IS 4:28 AND WE'RE RETURNING FROM RECESS.

IN THE SPECIAL MEETING, WE ARE CONTINUING WITH ITEMS INFORMATION ITEM THREE ONE, WHICH IS BUDGET WORKSHOP.

MS. MAYO, YOU WERE DISMISSED WITH SOME HOMEWORK.

HAVE YOU COME BACK WITH THE REQUESTED INFORMATION ON SCENARIO TWO? YES. AND I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE SPECIAL THANKS TO MY TEAM FOR CROWDING AROUND THE TABLE AND PROVIDING THAT SUPPORT.

THANK YOU ALL.

WE WERE PENCILS TO PAPER FURIOUSLY.

JUST TO RECAP, WHAT WE REVIEWED WAS FOR SCENARIO TWO, WE WERE BEGINNING WITH SCENARIO TWO AS A BASELINE A TEACHERS 1 TO 7 AT 2%, TEACHERS FOR YEARS, EIGHT PLUS AT 3% AND PLUS 15 AT 4.5%.

LIBRARIANS, NURSES AND COUNSELORS AT 2%.

ALL OTHER PAY GRADES WE WERE CONSIDERING TWO.

BUT I DID BRING A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT SCENARIO BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE DETAILS WITH THE FIFTH BRINGERS, THEY WERE FAR EXCEEDING TWO.

SO WE BROUGHT THEM WITH THE $15 STANDARD INCREASE, AND THAT TOTAL IS 17,500,000, THAT'S 17. AND THE 1% AS OPPOSED TO THE 2%? 1% FOR EVERYONE THAT WOULD RECEIVE THE $15.

SO IT'S THE $15, THE EQUITY ADJUSTMENTS, AND THEN A 1% INCREASE ON TOP FOR AUXILIARY, AND THEN ALL OTHER PAY GRADES WOULD RECEIVE TWO.

AND THE BASIS FOR THAT IS BECAUSE BY MOVING THE STARTING SALARY TO 15 AND MAKING EQUITY ADJUSTMENTS, THERE'S ALREADY A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN PAY ACROSS THE BOARD FOR OUR AUXILIARY STAFF AND THEN WE'RE ADDING ANOTHER 1% ON TOP OF THAT.

SO IT WOULD BE VASTLY IN EXCESS OF 2% THAT WE'RE TRYING TO TARGET AS A MINIMUM INCREASE.

THAT'S RIGHT. RIGHT. AND THEN IT BEGINS TO ISSUES IN THE FURTHER DOWN THE PAY GRADE LINES, AS WE TALKED BEFORE, WITH DECOMPRESSION AND PIPELINES. SO SO TO RECAP THIS FRANKENSTEIN SCENARIO TWO THAT WE'RE AT NOW.

IT'S A CREATIVE ADJUSTMENT.

[LAUGHTER] WE'RE LOOKING AT.

THANK YOU. BUT I WANT TO RECAP THIS AT 61,000 MINIMUM STARTING PAY FOR NEW TEACHERS, CORRECT? IT IS A 2% RAISE FOR TEACHERS YEARS, ONE THROUGH SEVEN.

IT IS A 3% RAISE FOR TEACHERS EIGHT THROUGH 14 YEARS.

IT IS A 4.5% INCREASE FOR TEACHERS, 15 YEARS AND HIGHER LIBRARIES, NURSES, COUNSELORS.

AND WHAT'S THE FOURTH ONE? WHAT'S THE HOLY FOUR? COUNSELORS, LIBRARIANS AND NURSES? TEACHERS WOULD BE THE FOUR, BUT WE'VE ACCOUNTED.

THERE IS A 1% GENERAL PAY INCREASE FOR ALL THE OTHER PAY GRADES, AND THERE IS A $15 STARTING RATE WITH EQUITY ADJUSTMENT FOR AUXILIARY STAFF AND SUPPORT STAFF.

I HAVE ONE CORRECTION.

THERE IS A 1% FOR THE SUPPORT AUXILIARY STAFF THAT WILL BE BROUGHT TO ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT.

INSTRUCTIONAL SUPPORT AUXILIARY STAFF IS 1% PLUS THEIR EQUITY ADJUSTMENTS AND THE $15 INCREASE.

THE OTHER PAY GRADES WOULD RECEIVE 2% IN THIS SCENARIO.

AND THE TOTAL OF THAT IS? SEVEN APPROXIMATELY 17.5 MILLION.

ALL RIGHT. AND THAT EDUCATES US WITH RESPECT TO ALL THE SCENARIOS THEN.

ALL RIGHT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE ON TO NOW THE IMPACTS OF THESE SCENARIOS RELATIVE TO OUR BUDGET? YES, SIR.

SO WE HAVE HERE OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUE ESTIMATES.

AND I WANTED TO BREAK THIS OUT JUST WE HAD A QUESTION IN OUR PRIOR DISCUSSION ABOUT THE INCREASE OF LOCAL REVENUE AND HOW THAT AFFECTS OUR STATE REVENUE.

AND SO I WANTED TO BREAK OUT THE DETAILS HERE SO THAT YOU COULD SEE OUR INTEREST INCOME AND THE PROJECTIONS THAT WE HAVE AN INTEREST INCOME BECAUSE THAT IS AFFECTING OUR LOCAL REVENUE. AND THEN WHEN YOU REVIEW OUR TOTAL STATE REVENUE, YOU CAN SEE IT'S FROM 248 TO 244 TO 231.

AND THAT IS DIRECTLY IN LINE WITH THE OFFSET THAT AS OUR LOCAL REVENUE INCREASES AND THEN AS WE DECREASE IN ENROLLMENT, THE WEIGHT

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BECOMES HEAVIER ON THE LOCAL REVENUE SIDE.

AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT WE WANTED TO POINT OUT IN THE PRIOR PRESENTATION.

SO I WANTED TO BRING THOSE DETAILS FOR YOU SO YOU CAN HAVE THOSE FOR REVIEW.

AND THEN OUR GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURE ESTIMATES.

SO, I DID NOT CAPTURE THE IMPACT OF THE RAISE IN THIS BECAUSE WE WEREN'T SURE OF WHAT THE OVERALL IMPACT WOULD BE.

BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE THIS IS THE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURE ESTIMATES AND IT DOES INCORPORATE THAT $14 MILLION DOLLAR OF ADDITIONS THAT WE LOOKED AT PREVIOUSLY. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE, AS WAS MENTIONED BEFORE, THE GIBSON COST AUDIT ANY REDUCTIONS TO EXPENSES ON THAT SIDE.

IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY LEGISLATIVE ACTION THAT MAY INCREASE DECREASE EXPENSES OR INCREASE REVENUE.

SO THAT'S JUST THE PICTURE.

SO ANY ADDITIONS WOULD FURTHER BRING US IN SHORT OF EXPENDITURES THERE.

SO YOU CAN DO THE MATH FOR THE RAISES THERE.

I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU AN ESTIMATED GENERAL FUND BALANCE LISTED HERE IS JUST A HANDOUT THAT WAS REQUESTED TO BE PROVIDED BY ONE OF OUR MEMBERS.

AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY AGAIN, SO THIS SHOWS THE 22 23 PROJECTED FUND BALANCE AND THAT'S UTILIZING THE PROJECTIONS THAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU IN COMMITTEE. SO WE KNOW RIGHT NOW WITH ALL OF THE TRANSFERS OUT THAT WE'RE SHOWING ABOUT $77 MILLION DOLLARS IN DEFICIT TO BUDGET.

HOWEVER, WE DO KNOW THAT WITH THE EXTREMELY HIGH VACANCIES AND PROJECTED UNSPENT NON PAYROLL, THAT WE ARE LIKELY NOT GOING TO BE THAT HIGH.

SO WE DID TAKE THAT ESTIMATE FROM THAT WE PRESENTED IN COMMITTEE AND APPLY IT TO THE BUDGET AS OF TODAY.

SO THAT'S WHAT THE PROJECTED FUND BALANCE FOR 22 23 SHOWS.

IF YOU LOOK AT FY 24, 25 AND 26, JUST PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT IS WITHOUT THE GIBSON COST AUDIT THAT IS BASED ON CURRENT LAWS AND THAT IT DOES PROJECT 100% OF FUNDS EXPENDED EXPENSED.

AND THEN IF YOU JUST WANT TO KIND OF LOOK BACK TO FY 22, YOU'LL SEE THAT ABOUT 94% WITH PAYROLL WAS EXPENSED.

AND EVEN IN HISTORICAL YEARS, WHEN THINGS WERE A LITTLE MORE NORMALIZED, WE WERE AT 97%.

SO WE DO KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME SAVINGS AND THE BUDGET WON'T BE 100% EXPENSE.

SO JUST FOR YOUR REVIEW, JUST SO YOU HAVE SOME CLARITY ON THAT.

WHAT IS THAT DOLLAR FIGURE FOR THAT 94%? COULD YOU SHARE THAT WITH US? WE SAVED LAST YEAR IT WAS ABOUT 14 MILLION IN PAYROLL.

OKAY. MR. GLICK. YEAH.

YOU'RE STILL SHOWING SHARS CONTINUING AT THE 2 MILLION.

I KNOW WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT.

WE'VE POTENTIALLY GOING TO DO AN AUDIT OF THAT.

ANY REASON TO STAY AT 2 MILLION OR JUST CONSERVATIVELY STAY THERE? WE'RE GOING TO CONSERVATIVELY STAY THERE.

WE SHOULD BE GETTING OUR COST AUDIT FROM SHARS VERY SOON, I WOULD HOPE AND AT THE END OF THIS MONTH.

AND WHEN WE DO THAT, WE CAN COME BACK WITH SOME BETTER KNOWLEDGE ON HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE INCREASED.

BUT WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE.

AND THEN AS WELL, AS YOU LOOK AT THE INTEREST INCOME, WE ARE LIKELY GOING TO SEE SOME BIGGER FIGURES THAN $8 MILLION IN INTEREST INCOME.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IN FUTURE YEARS WE LOWERED IT TO SIX TO BE CONSERVATIVE, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY POTENTIAL FOR HIGHER THERE AS WELL.

THANK YOU. AND WITH RESPECT TO SHARS IN PARTICULAR, THE LAW CHANGED DRAMATICALLY ON SHARS, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE BASICALLY A PARENT PARENTAL SIGNATURE, OPT IN KIND OF MODEL THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO WITH.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE RIGHT FORMULA FOR CAPTURING AS MANY OF THESE FAMILIES AND PARENTS INTO OPTING INTO THE SYSTEM AS POSSIBLE.

AND UNTIL WE GET THAT, I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT WE KNOW WE'RE ABLE TO CURRENTLY GET.

SO I THINK THAT THAT'S FAIR, BUT I THINK WE CAN EXPECT IT TO GO UP SOME.

AND WE'LL PRESENT THAT AS SOON AS WE KNOW, YOU ALL WILL BE THE FIRST TO KNOW.

AND THEN WE MOVE INTO OUR STUDENT NUTRITION SERVICES FUND.

THIS IS THE SAME. AND I BRING THESE TO YOU BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL THREE BUDGETS WE WOULD EXPECT THE BOARD TO ADOPT IN JUNE, BUT THERE'S BEEN NO CHANGES SINCE THE LAST PRESENTATION OF STUDENT NUTRITION.

THEY'VE DONE JUST A FANTASTIC JOB OF INCREASING PARTICIPATION IN THEIR PROGRAMS SINCE COVID.

AND SO WITH THAT, THEY'VE INCREASED THEIR NET IMPACTS TO FUND BALANCE AND BASED ON FEDERAL LAW, THEY MUST SPEND THAT DOWN.

AND SO THEY HAVE SOME REALLY GREAT UPGRADES AS YOU'VE BEEN PRESENTED BY STUDENT NUTRITION.

AND THEN THIS IS OUR DEBT SERVICES FUND WITH SHOWING THE ANTICIPATED BOND ELECTION THAT'S COMING UP.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SHOW THAT THERE AND THERE'S NOT BEEN ANY CHANGES TO THAT SINCE OUR LAST PRESENTATION.

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AND THEN THESE ARE OUR NEXT STEPS.

SO WE CONTINUE TO REVIEW OUR REVENUE ESTIMATES.

WE CONTINUE TO DISCUSS PROPERTY VALUES.

WE CONTINUE TO FOLLOW CLOSE AT HAND WITH THE LEGISLATIVE EFFECTS AND HOW THEY MAY AFFECT US, ESPECIALLY AS WE GET CLOSER TO MAY AND TO JUNE.

AND THEN INTO JUNE WE WILL BE FINALIZING OUR BUDGETS THERE AND THEN WE'LL BE PUBLISHING OUR DOCUMENTS AS REQUIRED BY LAW, AND THEN WE'LL BE BRINGING THESE BUDGETS FOR YOU TO ADOPT AT THE END OF JUNE.

AND THEN THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.

BOARD MEMBERS EITHER FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS TO CLOSE OUT THIS WORKSHOP.

MR. MILLER. THANK YOU, BRANDY.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THE NUMBERS AND FOR THE EMERGENCY MATH.

YOU KNOW, SCENARIO 1, 2 OR 3, I GUESS I'M NOT REALLY BENT OUT OF SHAPE OVER ANY OF THEM.

THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS AND WHAT I'VE BEEN FOCUSED ON MORE THAN ANYTHING IS THE INTEGRITY OF OUR BALANCE SHEET, THE INTEGRITY OF OUR FUNDS, THE INTEGRITY OF OUR BUDGETING PROCESS, AND MOST CERTAINLY THE YOU KNOW, OUR ABILITY TO MANAGE OUR OUR BUDGETS.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS I LOOK FOR AND I DID ASK FOR THIS CHART TO BE PASSED AROUND TODAY BECAUSE I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE IMPACT IS GOING TO BE TO OUR FUND. WE'RE CURRENTLY OPERATING WITH ABOUT A $285 MILLION DOLLAR BALANCE.

IT LOOKS LIKE PROJECTING OUT BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

THIS YEAR, WE MAY HAVE AN OPERATING NEGATIVE OF ABOUT 25 MILLION, GIVE OR TAKE A FEW.

YEAH, 25 MILLION, GIVE OR TAKE A FEW.

SO THAT BRINGS THE FUND BALANCE DOWN TO 260.

THE FOLLOWING YEAR IF YOU ADD SOME OF THE EXPENSES THAT WE'VE JUST INCREASED JUST WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT ELSE IS HAPPENING WITH THE STATE OR THE FUNDING FORMULA OR ANYTHING ELSE, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE THAT LOSS TO ABOUT 30 TO 40.

THE WAY I SEE IT, WE GOT ABOUT AND THEN THE YEAR AFTER THAT, ESPECIALLY IF WE GIVE ANOTHER RAISE, YOU KNOW, SO IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE YOU GOT ABOUT WE GOT ABOUT A TWO YEAR RUN RATE BEFORE WE HIT.

WHAT I ASSUME IS A FOUR AND A HALF MONTH RESERVE, WHICH FOR US IN OUR CURRENT EXPENSE STRUCTURE WOULD BE ABOUT TWO WOULD REQUIRE IT'D BE ABOUT $550 MILLION RUN RATE AND FOUR AND A HALF MONTHS OF THAT WOULD BE AROUND $200 MILLION DOLLARS. SO SOMEWHERE IN THAT $200 MILLION RANGE OF GENERAL FUND BUDGET TO KIND OF STAY IN GOOD STANDING WITH FINANCIALS, RATING AGENCIES, AUDITS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'VE DEEMED IMPORTANT OVER THE YEARS.

SO WHILE WHATEVER WE DO WITH THIS SALARY INCREASE THIS YEAR IS NOT GOING TO IMPACT US REALLY THIS YEAR, MAYBE THE NEXT YEAR, BUT EVERY YEAR THAT GOES BY THAT WE ADD, I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO BE AT 100 TO 110% OF OUR REVENUE JUST IN SALARIES SOON.

AND THAT IS NOT THAT IS NOT ANYTHING WE CAN SUSTAIN.

SO TRUE WE MAY GET SOME FUNDING FORMULA RELIEF FROM THE STATE.

WE MAY GET THERE'S VARIOUS THINGS THAT MAY HAPPEN TO GIVE US SOME RELIEF.

BUT I REALLY DON'T SEE ANY NUMBERS BIG ENOUGH.

I THINK DR.

LOPEZ MENTIONED THIS CURRENT BILL MAY AMOUNT TO 15 MILLION OR 15 MILLION ON A 30, 40, $50 MILLION DEFICIT DOESN'T GET YOU WHERE YOU NEED TO BE.

WE MAY GET SOME COST SAVES FROM THE EXPENSE AUDIT, WHICH I HOPE HURRIES.

IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO HAVE THAT HERE TONIGHT AS WE'RE MAKING VERY IMPORTANT DECISIONS FOR THE DISTRICT.

SO I'M TRYING TO GET MY ARMS AROUND ALL OF THAT, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, AND GET MY ARMS AND MY MIND AROUND ALL OF THAT.

I WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

AND AS I'VE SAID A MILLION TIMES, MAN, I HAVE A DAUGHTER THAT'S A TEACHER.

I GET IT. BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT I WORK WITH COMPANIES ALL DAY, EVERY DAY, STRUGGLING TO MAKE BUDGETS MEET.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF TOUGH DECISIONS THAT HAVE TO GET MADE EVERY SINGLE DAY.

AND WE'RE NOT WE'RE NO DIFFERENT.

WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

WE CAN'T JUST RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT EVERY YEAR SO THAT WE CAN KEEP SPENDING LIKE WE WANT TO.

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SO WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS JUST SOME RECOGNITION OR SOME ACKNOWLEDGMENT ABOUT ALL THESE GREAT THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR IT? I THINK IT'S REAL IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A WAY TO CASH A CHECK IF WE'RE GOING TO WRITE IT.

WHILE I SEE A WAY TO DO THAT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, I THINK IF WE HEAD DOWN THIS ROAD AND I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T, BUT IF WE HEAD DOWN THIS ROAD AND RAISES THIS YEAR AND THEN WE FEEL THE PRESSURE TO DO IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR WITH NO RELIEF IN A FUNDING FORMULA FROM THE STATE, THAT ALLOWS US TO GIVE RAISES FROM YEAR TO YEAR.

WE THE LINES ARE GOING TO CROSS AND THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE US TO TALK ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT PLEASANT.

I LIKE TO DO THAT IN ADVANCE.

I DON'T LIKE TO DO IT AS AN EMERGENCY IN TWO YEARS, SO I JUST WANT THE BOARD TO THINK ABOUT WE DO WANT TO TAKE CARE OF OUR TEACHERS.

WE DO HAVE A CURRENT TEACHER SHORTAGE.

WE DO HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE FLOATING OUT THERE.

BUT HONESTLY, THE TEACHERS I TALKED TO, IT AIN'T ABOUT MONEY AS MUCH AS IT IS ABOUT GETTING CONTROL OF THE CLASSROOM AND TAKING SOME OF THE PRESSURE OFF THE TEACHERS WITH THE TESTING AND GIVING THEM TIME TO DO THEIR LESSON PLANS AND DO A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT JUST TOTALLY FRUSTRATES THEM AND MAKES THEM WANT TO QUIT.

AND SO I STILL THINK IF WE EVEN IF WE DO RAISES AND TAKE CARE OF THE MONETARY PART, WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF WORK TO DO IN THE CLASSROOM WITH THE TEACHERS TO GET SOME JOB SATISFACTION BACK INTO THE CLASSROOM SO THAT WE CAN START MAKING STRIDES IN ATTRACTING AND RETAINING OUR TEACHERS.

AND TO ME, THAT'S ALL PERTINENT WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT WITH RESPECT TO THE BUDGET AND WITH RESPECT TO THESE RAISES.

YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I'M REALLY AMBIVALENT AS TO WHICH OF THE THREE OPTIONS WE CHOOSE.

WHAT I REALLY THINK THAT HAPPENS AND IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN QUICKLY WITH THIS BOARD IS WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENS IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS BECAUSE WE CAN'T JUST DO THIS AGAIN NEXT YEAR AND THE NEXT YEAR WITHOUT ADDRESSING SOME OF THE FINANCIAL PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE BUILDING INTO THIS SYSTEM.

WE BUILT IN THIS RAISE LEVEL.

IT STAYS THERE FOREVER.

AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR WE BUILD IT IN AGAIN.

LIKE I SAID, PRETTY SOON 100% OF OUR BUDGET IS BEING SPENT ON SALARIES.

WE ALREADY KNOW THAT.

WE ALREADY KNOW THAT.

SO I JUST REALLY THINK TO ME IT'S MORE I'M LOOKING TWO YEARS DOWN THE ROAD AND I'VE GOT TO START THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO EXPLAIN THE DECISIONS WE MADE TWO YEARS AGO, LAST YEAR, THIS YEAR AND THE NEXT YEAR.

THAT'S GOING TO BUILD US INTO A BUBBLE WHERE WE CAN'T COVER IT.

AND SO I'M REAL CONCERNED WITH THAT.

IT'S HARD TO MAKE A TRADE OFF BETWEEN TAKING CARE OF YOUR TEACHERS AND TAKING CARE OF YOUR BUDGET.

BUT ONE OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES WE HAVE BOARD IS TO TAKE CARE OF THE BUDGET.

IT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST RESPONSIBILITIES WE HAVE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK WE NEED TO THINK LONG AND HARD ABOUT THESE KINDS OF THINGS.

THIS IS KIND OF WHAT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF THE PART THAT KEEPS ME UP AT NIGHT BECAUSE I REALLY LIKE TO IF I WRITE A CHECK, I'D LIKE TO PAY FOR IT.

AND WHILE I SEE US DOING IT FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS, DR.

RINGO IS ANY MY MATH WRONG? IS ANYTHING ABOUT MY MATH WRONG? NO, SIR. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK GARLAND HAS ALWAYS.

I'LL FINISH WITH THIS, MR. PRESIDENT. I'LL FINISH WITH THIS.

WE'VE ENJOYED EXTREMELY GOOD FINANCIAL RATINGS, EXTREMELY GOOD FUND BALANCE.

I THINK THE BOARD'S OVER THE YEARS HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY RESPONSIBLE WITH RESPECT TO HOW THEY'VE MANAGED THE BUDGET.

AND WE'VE BUILT UP TREMENDOUS FINANCIAL FLEXIBILITY.

WE HAD THE ABILITY TO TAKE $50 MILLION OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND TO BALANCE THE LAST BOND PROJECT.

WE'VE HAD THE ABILITY TO PAY ONGOING, PROJECTS OF ALL KINDS OUT OF OUR FUND BALANCE.

WE DO IT EVERY YEAR. WE TRANSFER MONEY OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND TO PAY FOR THIS AND TO PAY FOR THAT.

IN TWO YEARS WE WON'T HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY UNLESS WE START TAKING SOME STEPS TO RIGHT SIZE THE BUDGET.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

OUR CHALLENGE HAS BEEN FUNDING, AS YOU'VE KNOWN, SO WE GOT SOME POSITIVES.

THE COST ANALYSIS, POTENTIAL HELP FROM THE STATE ON THE ALLOTMENT.

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YOU KNOW, IT HAS BEEN A IT HAS BEEN A CURSE AND A BLESSING THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO HIRE ALL THE TEACHERS OR OUR DEFICIT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WE'D PRETTY MUCH ALREADY SPENT ALL OF OUR CUSHION.

SO I JUST WANT US TO BE CAREFUL AS WE GO THROUGH THE DELIBERATIONS.

I JUST WANT TO BRING IT UP, AS YOU KNEW I WOULD, THAT WE GOT TO THINK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS NEXT YEAR AND THE YEAR AFTER THAT BECAUSE WE'RE TIGHTENING THE NOOSE CONSTANTLY AS WE GO.

THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MR GLICK. YEAH, SO WE CELEBRATED TODAY.

DR. RINGO IS HE GOES ON TO A NEW JOB AS A SUPERINTENDENT AND CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.

SOMEWHERE PROBABLY IN MY OFFICE OR MY CAR, I WOULD FIND IT.

IT MIGHT BE DIFFICULT.

THERE WAS A CHART DONE BY HIS PREDECESSORS ABOUT THE CROSSING OF THE LINES, AND THAT CHART INDICATED THAT THE LINES WOULD CROSS SOME TIME TWO YEARS AGO, THAT WE'D BE IN A DEFICIT BUDGET TWO YEARS AGO.

INSTEAD, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS CONTINUALLY INCREASED OUR FUND BALANCE.

EVEN SITTING HERE OR ACTUALLY AT GILBREATH-REED LAST YEAR, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A NEGATIVE FUND BALANCE.

AND YET, AS YOU INDICATED, MR. MILLER, WE WENT UP TO THE HIGHEST FUND BALANCE WE'VE EVER HAD IN OUR HISTORY BY FAR.

SO RATHER THAN HAVE A NEGATIVE LAST YEAR, WE WENT UP OVER $40 MILLION DOLLARS AT THE END WHEN WE GOT OUR CAFR IN AT THE OCTOBER MEETING.

SO YEAH, I HAVE A CONCERN.

I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GOING.

WILL THIS BE THE YEAR WHEN WE START BECOMING NEGATIVE? BUT I'VE HEARD THAT FOR SO MANY YEARS AND IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET.

I JUST THINK AND THAT'S WHY I PROPOSED OR TALKED ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, SCHEDULE TWO.

I JUST THINK WE NEED TO KEEP SENDING A MESSAGE, KEEP SENDING OUR MESSAGE TO THEM, OUR MOST VALUABLE EMPLOYEES, AND SAY WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH. WE APPRECIATE HOW HARD THIS JOB IS.

WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE YOU ON OUR STAFF.

AND DO I THINK THERE COULD BE HARD TIMES? VERY POSSIBLY. I DON'T THINK WE EVEN KNOW WHAT THE STATE'S GOING TO DO.

MY GUESS IS WE WILL ADD MORE MONEY BACK.

WE MAY NOT BE BALANCED THIS YEAR, BUT IT WOULD BE THE FIRST YEAR IN A VERY, VERY LONG TIME.

SO I AS I'VE INDICATED BEFORE, WHEN WE COME TO A VOTE LATER, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF SCHEDULE TWO, AS MISS MAYO OUTLINED WITH THE COST STRUCTURE.

BUT AGAIN, I THINK THERE'S MORE THAN JUST THE NUMBERS.

I THINK IT'S WHAT THIS BOARD BELIEVES IN AND WHAT WE BELIEVE IN FOR THE FUTURE OF THIS DISTRICT.

SO THANK YOU, SIR.

ANYONE ELSE? MAY I BRIEFLY COMMENT TO YOU? I'D LIKE TO RETORT I WOULD LIKE TO RETORT TO MY VERY TALENTED AND GIFTED COLLEAGUE, MR. GLICK. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE JUST CAN'T WE CAN'T OVERLOOK IS THE COVID IMPACT ON OUR BUDGET AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVEN'T COME ANYWHERE CLOSE TO HISTORICAL SPENDING PERCENTAGES.

IF WE ASSUME THAT WE'RE GOING TO STAY AT 94% UTILIZATION OF OUR BUDGET, IF THAT'S GOING TO BE THE NUMBER GOING FORWARD, WHICH IS THE NUMBERS I WAS USING WHEN I WAS THROWING OUT ESTIMATES EARLIER, I'M NOT EVEN ASSUMING THAT WE EVER GET BACK TO HIRING FULL UTILIZATION. I DON'T THINK, I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING THIS YEAR OR MAYBE THE NEXT YEAR.

THE TEACHER SHORTAGE MIGHT EVEN GET WORSE.

SO I'M KIND OF GIVING CREDIT FOR ALL THAT.

I THINK IN THE YEARS PAST WE BENEFITED SO MUCH FROM ESSER AND THE WHOLE NOT BEING ABLE TO HIRE STAFF, AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON OUR BUDGETS STAYED POSITIVE.

THERE'S NO OTHER REASON FOR IT BECAUSE OUR PERCENT OF PAYROLL TO TOTAL SPENDING HAS BEEN RISING CONSTANTLY, EVEN WITH THE SAVINGS FROM NOT BEING ABLE TO FULLY UTILIZE OUR STAFF ARE FULLY STAFFED.

SO, YOU KNOW, GOD FORBID WE GET BACK TO 100% FULL STAFF MR. GLICK AND WE KNOW THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

BUT SO I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT GETTING BACK TO THAT.

WHAT I'M REALLY WORRIED ABOUT IS GARLAND HAS ALWAYS ENJOYED THIS FINANCIAL BALANCE SHEET THAT LEAVES US

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AT THE TOP OF THE HEAP.

AND IF YOU WERE EVER GOING TO COME TO GARLAND FOR ANY REASONS, TO ME HAS BEEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE FACT THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS HAD THE TOP FINANCIAL RATINGS YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR, AND THAT'S A CREDIT TO THE BOARD, THE PAST BOARDS, THE CURRENT BOARD, THE ADMINISTRATION AND EVERYBODY THAT'S GONE INTO THAT. SO AND I APPLAUD THAT.

BUT MAN, WHAT I'VE NOTICED IN THE INDUSTRY OR I WILL BET IN THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT, ONCE YOU LOSE IT, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET IT BACK. SO THAT'S WHY I'M FIGHTING SO HARD.

I'M NOT FIGHTING.

THAT'S WHY I'M TALKING TO THE BOARD TONIGHT TO SAY, LET'S EARNESTLY CONSIDER THE IMPACT ON OUR GENERAL FUND.

I THINK IT'S GOOD EVERY TIME WE PUT MONEY IN THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE THAT GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY TO SPEND IT WHEN WE NEED IT LATER.

ME AND MR. GLICK HAVE TRADED CONVERSATIONS.

I THINK MR. GLICK KNOW HE SAID THIS.

HE WOULD RATHER SPEND THE MONEY EVERY YEAR.

IF ANYTHING, IT UPSETS HIM MAYBE A LITTLE BIT THAT WE DIDN'T SPEND IT ALL LAST YEAR BECAUSE WE HAD OPPORTUNITIES THAT MAYBE WE COULD HAVE SPENT SOME MORE MONEY. BUT I'M ONE OF THOSE I LIKE TO KNOW.

I CAN WRITE THE CHECK. I CAN'T SLEEP AT NIGHT IF I DON'T KNOW IF THE CHECK IS GOING TO CLEAR.

I'M ALREADY WORRIED ABOUT A YEAR FROM NOW, TWO YEARS FROM NOW.

I'M WORRIED ABOUT HOW THE HECK WE GIVE RAISES NEXT YEAR WITHOUT A CHANGE IN THE FUNDING FORMULA BECAUSE THE FUNDING FORMULA FROM THE STATE DOES NOT ALLOW US TO GIVE RAISES. THERE'S NOTHING IN IT THAT CALCULATES RAISES FOR THE TEACHERS.

AND YET WE'RE UNDER PRESSURE EVERY SINGLE YEAR TO GIVE RAISES TO THE TEACHERS.

WE WANT TO.

IT'S A DESIRE OF THE BOARD.

BUT THE LINES ARE CROSSING, AND I SEE IT.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M CAUTIONING EVERYBODY ABOUT, IS LET'S JUST BE.

I MEAN, I'M SORRY, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M RATTLING ON A LITTLE BIT, BUT I HAVE TO.

AND I KNOW LINDA'S SHAKING HER HEAD YES, BUT I'VE HEARD LINDA GRIFFIN CARRY ON AND PREACH AND PREACH AND PREACH.

SO MAYBE TONIGHT IS MY TURN.

OKAY. BUT LIKE I SAID, I JUST.

I THINK THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS.

I CHECKED THE NUMBERS WITH DR.

RINGO. WE'VE GOT ABOUT A TWO YEAR RUN RATE AT THE RATE WE'RE GOING, UNLESS SOMETHING DRASTIC HAPPENS.

THE LITTLE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WE KNOW THE STATE MIGHT PROVIDE US MIGHT SLOW IT DOWN BY A YEAR.

MAYBE. BUT WE'RE KIND OF HEADED IN THAT DIRECTION.

AND SO LET'S JUST KEEP WORKING ON THEN WHATEVER PASSES TONIGHT AND I HOPE SOMETHING PASSES, WHATEVER PASSES TONIGHT, LET'S JUST KEEP IN OUR MINDS THAT WE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO ON BUDGETING.

MAYBE NOT THIS YEAR WITH ESPECIALLY STARTING THE NEXT YEAR, ESPECIALLY AFTER WE GET THE COST SAVINGS AUDIT, ESPECIALLY AFTER WE FIND OUT IF THE BOND IS APPROVED OR NOT.

THE CONSOLIDATIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN CONTEMPLATED WITH SCHOOLS.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN DO FROM AN EFFICIENCY STANDPOINT, AND IT'S GOING TO BECOME A PRIORITY FOR ME GOING FORWARD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MILLER. ANYTHING ELSE? SEEING NOTHING, IT IS 4:57, I BELIEVE.

[VI. Adjournment]

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I THINK THAT COVERS THE ENTIRETY OF INFORMATION ITEMS THREE.

OKAY. SO NEXT, WE HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

DO WE HAVE ANY ITEMS FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION? DR. LOPEZ. NO ITEMS FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SO THAT MEANS WE SKIP STRAIGHT TO ADJOURNMENT.

DO YOU HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE SPECIAL MEETING? THE SPECIAL MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 4:57 P.M.

WE WILL START THE BOARD MEETING AT 5:15.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.