[00:00:02]
GOOD AFTERNOON AND BEFORE WE BEGAN
[I. Call to Order and Determination of a Quorum]
OUR WORKSHOP, I WOULD ASK FOR A MOMENT OF MEDITATION.WE'VE HAD SEVERAL BEREAVEMENTS IN THE GARLAND INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT FAMILY.
SO IF YOU WOULD JUST PAUSE WITH ME FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
IT IS NOW 2:02, AND I CALL THE WORKING MEETING TO ORDER OF THE GARLAND INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT ON TUESDAY, APRIL 9TH, 2024.
OKAY, I'M CALLING THE WORKING MEETING TOGETHER FOR MAY 14TH, 2024.
I WILL CERTIFY THAT THE AGENDA WAS POSTED AS REQUIRED BY LAW.
AND AS I CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER, I DO DETERMINE THAT WE HAVE A FORUM PRESENT.
AND NUMBER TWO IS OUR PUBLIC FORUM.
DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[III.A.1. Receive Budget Planning Presentation for 2024-2025]
THE AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE BUDGET WORKSHOP.A, IS TO RECEIVE BUDGET PLANNING FOR 2024.
PRESIDENT GRIFFIN, BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
DOCTOR LOPEZ, SORRY ABOUT THAT.
YOU GO THROUGH THESE THINGS 100 MILLION TIMES AND YOU STILL MISS SOMETHING.
BUT AS WE GET STARTED ON OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP, THIS IS OUR SECOND BUDGET WORKSHOP.
WE WILL HAVE ONE MORE IN JUNE, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON OUR REGULAR BOARD MEETING JUNE 25TH WHERE THE BOARD, THE PROPOSED BUDGET WILL BE SENT FOR APPROVAL.
SO THE 2023-24 BUDGET UPDATE AND END OF YEAR FORECAST TAXES AND TRENDS BUDGET HIGHLIGHTS.
WHAT ARE WE PROPOSING FOR THE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET AND NEXT STEPS? AS WE LOOK AT THE BUDGET, CURRENT BUDGET, YOU SEE WHERE WE ARE ON OUR FINANCIALS WHERE WE ARE ON OUR ACTUALS AS OF MARCH AND THEN WHERE WE FEEL LIKE WE WILL END, WHICH IS STILL PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS WE TALKED ABOUT IN APRIL, SOMEWHERE AROUND $54 MILLION, $55 MILLION DEFICIT, JUST DEPENDING ON HOW SOME OF THESE THINGS END IN AS WE END THE YEAR.
STUDENT POPULATION OR STUDENT AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE CONTINUES TO GO DOWN.
SO THAT WILL AFFECT OUR REVENUE, WHICH WILL AFFECT WHERE WE WILL END ALSO.
YOU ALSO HAVE A GRAPH, JUST OUTLINE WHERE OUR EXPENDITURES ARE FOR OUR CURRENT BUDGET, WITH 86 THE LARGEST PART, 86.7% IN PAYROLL, AND THEN THE REST OF THE EXPENDITURES.
WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT MAKES UP OUR PROPERTY, OUR TAXES.
[00:05:04]
WE HAVE A MNO TAX RATE ON THIS TAX RATE FOR A TOTAL TAX RATE AND SO THAT STAYS THE SAME.M AND O IS FOR OUR TOTAL BUDGET OUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS BUDGET INTEREST AND SINKING IS ONLY FOR PAYMENTS ON APPROVED VOTER DEBT.
AS WE LOOK AT OUR TAX RATE FROM 2018-19 THROUGH WHERE WE'RE ESTIMATING FOR OUR 24-25 SCHOOL YEAR, YOU'LL SEE THAT OUR TAX RATE HAS CONTINUALLY DROPPED, AND WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT WE WILL BE JUST A LITTLE BIT UNDER WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET AT M&O RATE AT SIX, SIX, SIX, NINE AND OUR INS RATE AT 3840.
YOU SEE WHERE WE MATCH UP TO AREA SCHOOLS ON OUR TOTAL TAX RATE.
ON PROPERTY TAXES, WE DID GET INFORMATION FROM THE DALLAS CAD SINCE THE LAST BUDGET WORKSHOP.
WE DID RECEIVE OUR EARLY ESTIMATES.
THAT IS, THAT THEY PROVIDE THE DISTRICT.
WHAT YOU SEE IN THIS GRAPH IS THE EARLY ESTIMATE IN THE BLUE.
THAT IS, THE VALUES THAT THEY ARE SHOWING THAT WE ARE OR WHAT THEY'RE ESTIMATING THE YELLOW LINE OR GOLD OR ORANGE, WHATEVER COLOR YOU WANT TO CALL THAT, THAT IS WHERE WE FEEL LIKE OR WHERE THEY FEEL LIKE THE CERTIFIED VALUES THAT WILL RECEIVE JULY 25TH WILL END UP.
SO YOU SEE, THERE'S QUITE A BIT THERE'S 7.28% DROP IN WHAT THE EARLY ESTIMATE IS.
AND THEN WHAT THEIR HISTORICAL WHERE THEY COME IN ON THEIR CERTIFIED VALUES, AND THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION THROUGHOUT THE CADS AND THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
WITH THE $100,000 HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF MISUNDERSTANDING ON HOW THAT WORKS THROUGH OUR VALUES AND SO EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE PREDICTING A LITTLE OVER 11% INCREASE IN OUR VALUES IN MY PREDICTIONS, I DID NOT GO UP THAT HIGH.
I LEFT IT SOMEWHERE AROUND 7.5% BECAUSE I'VE SEEN SCHOOL DISTRICTS COME IN AND THEN THE CAD COMES IN ON TOP OF THAT AND SAYS, WAIT, THIS CALCULATION WAS WRONG.
YOUR VALUES ARE ACTUALLY LOWER.
SO I'M TAKING A VERY CONSERVATIVE APPROACH ON OUR VALUES.
IT WON'T MAKE TOO MUCH DIFFERENCE IN OUR REVENUE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE TALKING THROUGH PROPERTY VALUES, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IS HOW IT AFFECTS OUR M&O TAXES AND AS OUR VALUES KEEP GROWING, THAT MEANS THE STATE PAYS LESS.
AND SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO I'M STILL A LITTLE MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN WHERE THEY'RE COMING IN ON, ON HOW I'M FIGURING THIS BUDGET, AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE LAST YEAR, THE CEILING, WHICH IS THE 65 AND OLDER, CAME IN AND IT LOWERED OUR VALUES ALMOST 2 BILLION AND THAT WAS AFTER THE CERTIFIED VALUES HAD COME IN, AFTER THEY HAD DONE THE 100,000 EXEMPTION.
THIS IS SINCE OUR VALUES HAVE INCREASED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
WE ARE WHAT THEY CALL AT THE FLOOR.
THE TEA DOES A WILL SET OUR TAX RATE AND SO THEY WILL GIVE US THE MAXIMUM COMPRESSED RATE.
WE ARE SETTING AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THAT RATE, AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO ADD UP TO FIVE PENNIES, AND THAT'S WHERE WE COME UP WITH OUR TAX RATE AT 0.6669 PROPOSED FOR NEXT YEAR.
AND THIS IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT ON OUR INCREASED TAXABLE VALUES ARE SHOWING 11.57% INCREASE.
WE DO EXPECT ABOUT A 99% COLLECTION RATE.
I DID LOWER FROM THE AS I TALKED ABOUT IN THE LAST BUDGET WORKSHOP, WE WERE PROJECTING ADA AT 46621 LAST MONTH.
[00:10:07]
AND THIS IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT ON MAXIMUM COMPRESSED RATE.THIS YOU SEE THE FLOOR IN THE CEILING.
THAT'S THE VARIABLE THAT IF RATE, IF YOUR VALUES DON'T INCREASE MORE THAN I BELIEVE IT'S TWO AND A HALF TO 3%, YOU MAY BE AT A LITTLE HIGHER RATE THAN MOST SCHOOL DISTRICTS, BUT MOST SCHOOL DISTRICTS NOW ARE STILL SETTING AT THE FLOOR.
SAVINGS WHERE CONSOLIDATION OF SCHOOLS AND OUR NEW K PROGRAM.
SOME INVESTMENTS AND BUDGET ADDS.
SPED/DYSLEXIA IS AS OUR SPED NUMBERS INCREASE, THAT'S GOING TO BE CONTINUALLY A BUDGET ADD OUR FLEET MAINTENANCE AND CUSTODIAL STAFF AND THEN OUR COMPENSATION AND OUR SRO SALARY ADJUSTMENTS.
AND HERE IS JUST A ADA VERSUS ENROLLMENT.
YOU WILL SEE THE ADJUSTMENT FOR THE ESTIMATE FOR NEXT YEAR.
THAT'S DOWN FROM 262 MILLION TO 207 MILLION.
AND THEN A FORECASTING OUT DOWN TO 153 MILLION, EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT, EXCUSE ME NOT MATCH UP TO WHAT WE'RE SHOWING ON A BUDGET DEFICIT NOW BECAUSE WE ALWAYS HAVE SOME VARIANCE AS WE GET TOWARDS THE END THAT WE FEEL LIKE SOMETIMES WE'LL FINISH A LITTLE LESS THAN WHAT WE'RE AT.
AND SO THIS IS OUR PROPOSED BUDGET.
YOU SEE OUR CURRENT BUDGET AND WHAT WE'RE SETTING IN THE 23-24 AS WE MOVE FORWARD OUR LOCAL REVENUES AND OUR STATE REVENUES, THEY'RE ON UNDER THE 24-25 PROPOSED BUDGET WE HAVE DECREASED OUR FEDERAL JUST BECAUSE WE NO LONGER HAVE ESSER, AND SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE WHEN YOU DO THINGS WITH A FEDERAL, YOU HAVE AN INDIRECT COST THAT CHARGES TO THAT PROGRAM, AND THEN IT'S ADDED TO THE 199 FUND FOR ADMINISTRATION COST. AS YOU LOOK DOWN OUR PAYROLL COSTS OR OUR INCREASING, AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGH DIFFERENT BUDGETS TO DECREASE BUDGETS ENDING AT A $596 MILLION EXPENSE BUDGET, WHICH THIS DOES INCLUDE ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS HERE IN A MINUTE.
SALARY AND THIS DOES INCLUDE THE FIRST OPTION OF SALARIES IN IT AT 87,132,267.
IF YOU REMEMBER LAST MONTH, WE WERE AT 84 MILLION.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGH DIFFERENT BUDGETS, CUTTING AND WORKING THROUGH EACH DEPARTMENT, EACH SECTION OF BUDGETS TO GET WHAT THIS WOULD BE DOWN TO. AS WE LOOK FORWARD PAST OUR NEXT YEAR.
WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST TO GET THIS BUDGET BACK TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.
WE KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME FIGHTING BACK AND FORTH ON VOUCHERS.
BUT IF VOUCHERS DOESN'T PASS, THERE'S NO WAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO ANYTHING FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION.
WE'LL JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS THERE.
BUT I WENT AHEAD AND INCREASED WHAT OUR TAX RATE WOULD BE.
THIS WOULD BE ADDING ROUGHLY ABOUT $49 MILLION TO OUR REVENUE.
AND AND THAT EVEN INCLUDES STUDENT POPULATION GOING DOWN.
SO AS YOU LOOK AT 25-26 PROJECTED BUDGET, YOU, YOU SEE WHERE IT DOES SAY WITH VATR, YOU KNOW, IF WITHOUT THE VATR VOTER APPROVED TAX RATE ELECTION YOU WOULD SIMPLY SUBTRACT OFF ABOUT $49 MILLION.
[00:15:03]
THAT'S ABOUT WHAT IT BRINGS IN.IN OUR SCHOOL NUTRITION SERVICES.
THIS IS OUR BUDGET WITH REVENUES OF 27.9 MILLION, EXPENDITURES AT 33.7 MILLION.
THEY ARE STILL WORKING ON THEIR OVERAGE ON THEIR FUND BALANCE.
AND SO THAT IS A REASON WHY THIS IS IN A DEFICIT BUDGET.
AND THEN OUR DEBT SERVICE BUDGET WITH LOOKING AT A PROPOSED REVENUE OF 119 MILLION AND PROPOSED AMOUNT ON PAYMENTS, 114 MILLION.
AND NEXT STEPS, THIS IS WE WILL HAVE OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP ON JUNE 11TH.
WE WILL PUBLISH BY JUNE 15TH FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON BUDGET.
JUNE 25TH, WE WILL FINISH UP ALL OF OUR BUDGET TRANSFERS AND FOR AND WITH THE FINAL BUDGET AMENDMENTS AND THEN OUR PROPOSED BUDGET FOR 24-25.
AND THEN WE WENT AHEAD AND ADDED WHEN OUR CERTIFIED VALUES WILL ACTUALLY COME IN.
SO YOU SEE, WHEN YOU'RE A JULY 1ST, JUNE TO JUNE 30TH BUDGET YEAR, YOU'RE THERE'S NO.
NO CONCRETE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE BUILDING A BUDGET ON.
I'VE BEEN DOING IT SINCE 2005 AT THIS FISCAL YEAR.
AND THAT'S WHY I SAY A BUDGET IS GOOD THE DAY THAT IT'S APPROVED.
AND THEN IT WILL CHANGE AS WE GET MORE INFORMATION.
SO ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT TRUSTEES, LET'S TALK.
BECAUSE I THINK ALL OF US BENEFIT FROM THE QUESTIONS OF OTHERS.
SO WHATEVER YOU'RE THINKING AND THE TALKING ALSO GIVES THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AN OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT WHAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE NEXT WORKSHOP THAT WE'LL HAVE IN JUNE.
COULD YOU GO TO PAGE OUR PAGE 19? WHICH ONE IS THAT? IT SAYS GENERAL FUND, ON TOP.
I THINK THERE'S A, AN ERROR IN THE NUMBERS UNDER THE YELLOW BOX IN THE MIDDLE. I THINK BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE PRESENTED BEFORE, A COUPLE OF PAGES EARLIER, THE BEGINNING FUND BALANCE SHOULD BE 207, RIGHT? OH, YES, I SEE THAT.
IT'S BEEN CHANGED TWICE, SOMEHOW IT JUST GETS THE SNEAKING BACK IN THERE.
YEAH. EVERYONE SEES WHERE WE, WHERE LARRY IS TALKING ABOUT.
YEAH, IT'S PAGE 19 IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S PAGE 15.
IT'S JUST TAKING THE NUMBER FROM PAGE 17 UNDER THE ENDING FUND BALANCE FROM ONE YEAR AND TRANSLATING IT INTO. YEAH. OKAY.
I'LL HAVE COMMENTS LATER, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CORRECT THAT ONE.
BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO DISCUSS THE BUDGET PLANNING PROCESS.
SO ANYTHING CONCERNING BUDGET, I THINK WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT NOW IS THAT DID I MISS IT? WANT ME TO CONTINUE THEN? I THINK SO, BECAUSE WHEN WE LEAVE ONE, WE'RE GOING TO SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
WE SEEM TO COME TO THIS EVERY YEAR ABOUT THIS TIME SOMETIMES, IT'S BEEN A MONTH EARLIER WHERE WE DEBATE WHAT OUR ENDING FUND BALANCE WOULD BE.
[00:20:04]
AND ALMOST EXACTLY THIS TIME LAST YEAR, THE NUMBER THAT NOW SHOWS AT 262520 OUR ENCUMBERED FUND BALANCE, NOT THE UNENCUMBERED.THAT'S 10 MILLION LOWER, WERE SHOWN TO US TO BE ABOUT $30 MILLION LESS.
SO. OKAY, LET'S MAKE SURE WE ARE FOLLOWING YOU OKAY? OKAY.
PAGE 17 OKAY. SO YOU REFERRED THERE TO 262 WAS LESS, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
IT USED TO BE CALLED THE CAFR.
NOW FOR SOME REASON WE'VE SWITCHED THE A AND THE C I GUESS.
SO THE FINANCIAL REPORT THAT WE GET FROM OUR AUDITORS IN NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER AND..
RIGHT. AND LAST YEAR IN MAY, WE WERE TOLD, AS WE WERE FINALIZING THOSE RAISES THAT OUR NUMBER WOULD BE 30 MILLION LESS THAN IT ACTUALLY TURNED OUT TO BE, WHICH IS A PROCESS THAT'S OCCURRED, AS I'VE REPEATEDLY SAID, EVERY YEAR FOR BUDGET.
SEEMS LIKE SINCE I GOT ON THE BOARD THAT WE ALWAYS UNDERESTIMATE OUR ENDING FUND BALANCE.
THAT'S NOTHING TO SAY WITH YOU, SIR OKAY.
I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT PAST ADMINISTRATIONS.
I KNOW THAT'S THAT'S HAD A MAJOR CHANGE, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN THIS UNDERESTIMATION.
AND THAT'S ALWAYS PROVEN TO BE WRONG.
AND WHAT I'M LEADING TO IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE THE NEXT DISCUSSION, I BELIEVE, ON RAISES.
SO YOU USE THE WORD I WROTE IT DOWN.
I THINK YOU USED THE WORD SURVIVE.
I DON'T REALLY BELIEVE WE'RE IN.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE IN THAT MODE.
I BELIEVE THAT THERE WILL BE ENOUGH PRESSURE ON THE STATE ADMINISTRATION AND THE STATE LEGISLATURE.
THEY'VE READ ALL THE ARTICLES.
SO I DON'T BELIEVE WE WILL GO THROUGH ANOTHER LEGISLATIVE SESSION LIKE WE DID LAST TIME.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE COMPROMISE WILL BE.
I'M NOT SURE WHERE 6160 WILL GO TO.
I KNOW THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT AN EXTRA $1,000.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WILL OCCUR.
I KNOW THERE WAS MONEY FOR OUR SECURITY OFFICERS THAT WE NEVER RECEIVED.
I BELIEVE BOTH WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
AND THANK YOU. A LITTLE BIT ON MR. GLICK'S POINT, WHICH IS WHICH IS A FINE POINT.
IT'S A GREAT STARTING POINT FOR WHERE I WANT TO GO TODAY.
YOU PROVIDED US WITH AN ESTIMATE OF ABOUT 50 TO 55 MILLION, LET'S SAY OF A DEFICIT BUDGET.
WHAT IS THE, IF YOU WERE GOING TO SAY GIVE OR TAKE ON THAT 55 NUMBER, WHAT WOULD IT BE? 4 OR 5 MILLION? 6 MILLION? 10 MILLION? I'M GOING TO SAY IT'S AND I'M BEING VERY CONSERVATIVE.
AND YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND TWO BUDGETS ARE THERE SO WE DON'T BUST A FUNCTION AND MESS UP OUR AUDIT.
THE RIGHT NOW, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.
WE COULD BE AT 45 MILLION RIGHT NOW.
IT'S VERY HARD BECAUSE EACH DAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE KIDS SHOW UP AND OUR AD DROP, ADA DROPS, THAT MAY BE LOSS IN REVENUE THAT WE WERE COUNTING ON TO BE AT A LOWER AMOUNT THAN WHAT WE'RE AT.
UNTIL WE GET TO THE JUNE BUDGET WORKSHOP WE WILL STILL BE IN LIMBO ON WHERE THAT WILL BE.
WE DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S GOING TO BE.
AND I DO NOT REALLY WANT TO SAY THIS.
[00:25:02]
I DON'T WANT TO JINX THIS.YOU KNOW, THINGS BREAK AND GO WHERE WE HAVE LARGE EXPENDITURES IN ORDER TO GET THEM BACK UP.
THIS 54 MILLION IS A CONSERVATIVE NUMBER, I WILL SAY THAT.
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT US TO COME IN HERE AND SAY IT'S GOING TO BE 45 MILLION, AND THEN IT ENDS UP 54 MILLION, AND WE HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION SAYING, YOU TOLD US IT WAS THIS, AND NOW IT'S A LOT HIGHER.
IT'S A LOT EASIER TO DIGEST IF IT COMES IN AND IT'S A LITTLE LOWER.
I TRIED TO GET AS CLOSE AS WE COULD WITHOUT GIVING AWAY ANY TYPE OF MARGIN THAT WE HAVE.
AND SO I'M HOPING THAT WE FINISH STRONG AND THAT WE DON'T LOSE ADDITIONAL REVENUE.
AND I'M HOPING THAT WE ARE FINISHING WHERE THIS NUMBER ISN'T 54 MILLION, THAT IT ENDS UP AT 45 MILLION. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I WANT TO COME OUT HERE AND SAY THAT.
BECAUSE IF I'M WRONG THE WRONG WAY, IT LOOKS BAD, TOO.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT MR. GLICK AND I, THE REASON I WENT AHEAD AND LOWERED FROM WHERE WE ARE ON OUR CURRENT BUDGET, I WANTED TO GIVE A GOOD PICTURE OF WHERE THIS IS, AND IT'S GOING TO CHANGE MONTHLY AS WE FINISH OUR ACTUALS OUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
BUT I DID WANT TO GO AHEAD AND SAY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT OUR CURRENT BUDGET IS, THAT'S STILL ABOUT A $25 MILLION CHANGE IN WHAT OUR BUDGET ACTUALLY SAYS TO WHERE I'M SAYING WE WOULD FINISH.
AND SO THERE'S STILL, THERE'S STILL SOME THINGS GOING ON.
YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE SOME SOME THINGS HAPPEN.
WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE OKAY.
AND SO I JUST I DON'T WANT TO OVERESTIMATE WHERE WE THINK WE'LL BE FINISHED.
SURE. SO AND JUST REAL QUICK SINCE WE'RE ON THE SUBJECT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT NEXT YEAR.
WILL THIS CURRENT BUDGET THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THE DEFICIT INCREASES FROM 70 MILLION TO 87 MILLION, 87 MILLION? WHICH IS SURPRISING TO ME BECAUSE I THOUGHT MAYBE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO START REDUCING THAT DEFICIT THIS YEAR.
SO LET'S SAY YOU'RE ABLE TO DO THE SAME KIND OF PERFORMANCE BECAUSE OF INABILITY TO FILL STAFF POSITIONS, VACANCIES OR WHATEVER SAVINGS IN OTHER PLACES.
WE DON'T REALLY EVER HAVE A DEFICIT OF 87 MILLION.
IT'S USUALLY SOMETHING PROBABLY NEXT YEAR WILL BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 40 AND 50 AGAIN.
SO HIGH END, LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS, WE GOT A HIGH END OF 110 OR SO MILLION OF DEFICIT SUBTRACTED FROM THE CURRENT GENERAL FUND TO A LOW OF MAYBE 90.
IN EITHER EVENT THAT STARTS GETTING US DOWN TO THE 150 MILLION RANGE BALANCE RANGE IN THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH THEN PUTS US PERILOUSLY CLOSE TO THE RECOMMENDED MINIMUMS IN TERMS OF HAVING THREE MONTHS OF OPERATING EXPENSES IN RESERVE IN YOUR GENERAL FUND.
SO AND THIS IS ME GIVING OPINIONS HERE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M VERY CONCERNED BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THE TRAJECTORY AND I'VE SEEN THE TREND, I'VE SEEN US DO THINGS THAT ARE ENTIRELY NECESSARY, LIKE OVER THE LAST 4 OR 5 YEARS, INCREASE OUR STAFF SALARIES AND FUNDING BY $90 MILLION.
BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE A PENNY OF PERMANENT FUNDING WITH WHICH TO PAY THAT.
IT HAS COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, AND I DON'T SEE THAT WE HAVE THAT OPTION ANYMORE.
I SINCERELY DON'T SEE HOW THE MATH IS EVER GOING TO WORK.
WHAT DO WE CONTROL AS A BOARD? YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT CAN HAVE SOME INFLUENCE ON OUR AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE.
WE MIGHT CAN MAKE IT A BOARD PRIORITY TO GO AFTER ATTENDANCE AND TRY TO INCREASE THAT.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE, WHAT, 3500, 3600 ABSENTEES A DAY? YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND IMPROVEMENT IN THAT IS WHAT, SEVEN POINT $7.5 MILLION ROUGHLY, THAT WE COULD ADD TO THE BUDGET IF KIDS ARE IN CLASS GETTING THE EDUCATION THAT THEY NEED.
[00:30:01]
FOR WHATEVER REASON, THOUGH, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ABSENTEES ALL YEAR LONG.SO WE WE CAN MAKE AN EFFORT ON ADA.
WE CAN MAKE AN EFFORT ON A TRE, BUT THAT SUBJECT TO VOTER APPROVAL AND I SEE A LOT OF HEADS NOD WHEN I SEE YOU TALK ABOUT A TREE.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD ARGUE THAT.
AND THE OTHER THING IS THE STATE.
WHAT I'VE HEARD COMING FROM THE STATE AND MR. GLICK MAY HOLD OUT SOME HOPE FOR THINGS THAT WOULD COME FROM THE STATE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY HELP OUR BUDGET DEFICIT.
BUT WHAT I THINK IS HAPPENING AND MORE LIKELY TO HAPPEN IS THEY WILL DO THINGS APPROPRIATELY TO INCREASE TEACHER PAY, WHICH MEANS IT WILL BE A DOLLAR IN AND A DOLLAR OUT.
IT WILL NOT HELP OUR BUDGET DEFICIT.
IT WILL BE ALLOCATED OR DESIGNATED FOR PURPOSES THAT WE DON'T GET TO CONTROL.
SO WITH THAT KIND OF HORIZON OUT IN FRONT OF ME, AND I'VE TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND THE STATE CONSULTANTS AND PEOPLE, AND THAT'S KIND OF THE OUTLOOK THAT I GET.
WHEN REALLY THIS IS THE YEAR WHERE WE NEED TO BE BACKING OFF.
BUT HERE'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY IS, I MEAN, THIS IS WHERE THIS IS WHERE WE AS A BOARD, THIS IS WHERE WE GET TO EARN OUR MONEY, WHICH, BY THE WAY, WE DON'T GET PAID.
BUT THIS IS WHERE WE GET TO EARN OUR KEEP.
PROVIDING THE LEADERSHIP THAT IT TAKES TO GET THE DISTRICT FROM POINT A TO POINT B, RIGHT NOW POINT A IS WHERE WE ARE, WE'RE ALMOST 600 MILLION IN EXPENSES AND 509 MILLION IN REVENUE.
SO POINT B IS 509 AND WE'RE AT 600.
AND WE NEED A ROAD MAP THAT GETS US FROM THERE FROM 600, 600 MILLION TO $509 MILLION.
BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY GIVEN WE HAVE.
WE CAN ASSUME THINGS WILL HAPPEN.
BUT AS WE HAVE FOUND FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS, WAITING AND ASSUMING THAT SOMETHING FAVORABLE WOULD COME OUT OF THE STATE, OR HELPING OUR FUNDING OR OUR ADA OR TURN IT AROUND, NONE OF THAT'S HAPPENED.
AND EVERYBODY HERE KNOWS YOU CAN'T WRITE A CHECK ON MONEY THAT'S NOT IN THE ACCOUNT.
IT'S NOT HOW I WANT TO RUN THE DISTRICT.
MY OPINION, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SPREAD RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T DO IT THIS YEAR, THEN NEXT YEAR IS GOING TO BE A REALLY PAINFUL YEAR.
NOW I WILL SAY THIS, AND I KNOW THIS STAFF, Y'ALL BEEN WORKING ON THIS AND I CONGRATULATE YOU.
YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR A LONG TIME.
THE BOARD HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK.
WE'VE DONE AN EFFICIENCY STUDY.
WE'VE GONE FROM 58,000 ENROLLED TO, WHO KNOWS, 50,000, MAYBE 48,000.
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF CAMPUSES THAT ARE BEING CONSOLIDATED.
WE'RE BUILDING A COUPLE OF NEW CAMPUSES THAT WILL MAKE EVERYBODY MORE EXCITED.
AND ALL THOSE THINGS ARE GOOD.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT TRAJECTORY OF WHERE WE'RE HEADED AND YOU GO, I THINK WHEN I GOT ON THE SCHOOL BOARD IN 17, WE WERE ABOUT 80% 81% SALARIES TO TOTAL BUDGET.
AND NOW WE'RE AT 87, AND WITH THIS BUDGET, DO WE STAY AT 87 OR DO WE CLIMB EVEN UP A LITTLE HIGHER? AND THAT'S JUST WE CAN'T DO THAT.
SO I'M SITTING HERE VERY CONCERNED AND IT'S MORE TRAJECTORY THING.
I THINK THE MORE RESPONSIBLE WAY TO APPROACH THIS BUDGET IS TO BUDGET FOR WHAT YOU KNOW.
WHAT YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DEPEND ON WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE BANK TO WRITE A CHECK ON.
AND I DON'T THINK MY PERSONAL OPINION IS WE DON'T GET THERE WITH THIS BUDGET.
[00:35:01]
SO I AM A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED, AND I KNOW THAT YOU WILL BE WORKING ON IT THE REST OF THE YEAR.AND I KNOW THE CABINET IS WORKING ON AND I FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, MY PHILOSOPHY IS YOU GOT TO BANK WHAT YOU KNOW, AND I CAN'T WAIT, I CAN'T WAIT ANOTHER FOUR YEARS FOR THE STATE TO DISAPPOINT ME.
SO WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN CONTROL.
ALL OF OUR CAMPUSES SHOULD GETTING THOSE KIDS IN THE IN THE CLASS IS THE BEST WAY TO TEACH THEM.
AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A LOT OF UNFUNDED THINGS.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PERMANENT THINGS WE'VE ADDED TO OUR BUDGET, AND NONE OF THESE ARE BAD.
SO I'M SITTING HERE GOING, OKAY, IT'S TIME TO TIGHTEN THE BELT AND LET'S BE RESPONSIBLE.
MR. BEACH. YES, THANK YOU, MS. GRIFFIN. I'M JUST CURIOUS TO ON THE CERTIFIED VALUES OF PROPERTY.
HOW MUCH IN FOR CLARITY FOR ME.
HOW MUCH IN DOLLARS IS WHAT WE PROJECT TO THAT 11.57 IN OTHER WORDS, HOW MANY DOLLARS DIFFERENCE WOULD THERE BE BETWEEN WHAT YOU HAVE, WHAT WE HAVE PROJECTED AND WHAT THEY ARE COMING IN AT OR SAYING IT'S GOING TO BE AT? THE DIFFERENCE IN WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.
IN OTHER WORDS, EACH PERCENTAGE POINT IS HOW MUCH? HOW MANY DOLLARS. DO YOU KNOW THAT PARTICULAR FIGURE? THE NO, NOT OFFHAND.
I WILL SEE IF I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT IS A CHANGE.
BUT IT ALSO CHANGES WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET FROM THE STATE.
BUT IT WHEN THE WAY THE SYSTEM IS BUILT, IT'S BUILT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO EARN A TARGET REVENUE.
AND YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T SAY THAT ANYMORE.
NOW IT WE'RE BACK TO THAT SITUATION AFTER 2019.
IS THAT GOING TO BE A WASH? IT, WELL, I CAN TELL YOU TAX DOLLARS IS A FULL DOLLAR WHERE STATE DOLLARS ARE NOT EXACTLY A FULL DOLLAR.
BUT I WILL SAY AS OUR VALUES GO UP AND OUR TAX REVENUE GOES UP EQUALLY WILL GO DOWN THE STATE REVENUE AND SO YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE MAKING BASED ON YOUR STUDENT ATTENDANCE.
AND THIS CHANGED IN 2019 BECAUSE VALUES USED TO BE A HUGE, HUGE FACTOR WHEN YOU'RE FIGURING YOUR BUDGET BECAUSE YOU WANTED YOUR VALUES TO GO UP. EXACTLY.
YOU WANTED EVERYTHING TO GO UP BECAUSE THAT WOULD MEAN THAT YOU WOULD BE INCREASING IN YOUR REVENUE.
WHEN 2019 CAME ON, THEY SWITCHED IT.
WHERE STUDENT NUMBERS NOW BECOMES THE MAIN DRIVER IN YOUR BUDGET AND VALUES IS THE SECONDARY.
THEY ALSO SWITCHED WHEN AS YOUR VALUES WERE CLIMBING, YOU WERE ON A YEAR LAG.
AND SO IF YOUR VALUES WENT UP, YOU ACTUALLY WERE EARNING MORE MONEY THAN WHAT THE STATE WAS SAYING YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO, SO YOU WERE ACTUALLY EARNING ADDITIONAL REVENUE AS THAT GOES ALONG.
IN 2019 WHEN THEY CHANGED AND WENT TO HOUSE BILL THREE, IT WENT THE OPPOSITE WAY.
[00:40:06]
THEY BROUGHT IN CURRENT YEAR VALUES.AND SO THERE'S NO NO INCREASE IN REVENUE.
IT ACTUALLY WILL DECREASE YOUR STATE REVENUE BASED ON WHAT YOUR VALUES ARE DOING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT EXPLAINS IT MUCH, BUT THAT'S ESSENTIALLY AS VALUES CONTINUE TO INCREASE, THAT MEANS YOUR STATE REVENUE IS GOING TO PER STUDENT IS GOING TO GO DOWN. IT'S BASICALLY GOING TO BE A LOSS STILL THEN? IT'S PRETTY MUCH SO IT IS.
SO SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD IN PAST YEARS, WE'VE HAD THE CFO HAS GIVEN US INFORMATION ABOUT CONVERSATIONS THAT THEY'VE HAD WITH STATE PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE PROJECTING OR WHAT THEY'RE SEEING OR WHATEVER, LIKE THAT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR ENDS ABOUT WHAT IS BEING SAID TO YOU OR OUR DEPARTMENT ABOUT FROM THE STATE LEVEL, ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT OR SEEING? WELL, MR. MILLER KIND OF TOUCHED ON THAT.
YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THERE'S A BIG FIGHT OVER WHETHER THERE'S VOUCHERS OR NOT.
WE NEED SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
I THINK THAT A LOT OF IT WILL BE BASED ON ALLOTMENT BASED.
THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE THE ONES GIVING THOSE RAISES.
SO THEY WOULD BE LIKE THE TIA.
AND IT COULD INCLUDE COUNSELORS, YOU KNOW, BUT LIBRARIANS AND NURSES, BECAUSE IN THE STATE, THEY'RE ALL BUILT IN THAT ONE SALARY SCHEDULE. WE WILL SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WHEN IT COMES OUT.
AND THEN WE WERE REQUIRED TO USE 30% OF THAT FOR RAISES.
IT WON'T BE THAT WAY, IN MY OPINION, AND I HAVE A FEELING THIS IS THE WAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT.
IT WILL COME OUT AS ANOTHER ALLOTMENT, JUST LIKE THE SPED ALLOTMENT, JUST LIKE CTE ALLOTMENT.
JUST LIKE MR. MILLER HAD SAID.
NOW I FEEL LIKE THEY WILL MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE BASIC ALLOTMENT.
WHEN THEY WERE TALKING BACK THERE WAS NUMBERS THROWN OUT.
THE DISTRICT SAID WE'RE OPERATING YOU KNOW, OFF 2019 REVENUE, AND WE HAVE 2024 EXPENSES.
AND SO THERE HASN'T BEEN THAT INCREASE.
AND SO WE HAVEN'T REALLY WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANGE IN THAT BASIC ALLOTMENT.
THERE COULD BE AN ADJUSTMENT FOR INFLATION.
RIGHT. AND SO I DO THINK THAT THERE WILL BE AN INCREASE WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, I THINK ORIGINALLY WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT IT, IT WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND $50, ONE YEAR, $90, AND NEXT YEAR, THAT'S NOT A BIG INCREASE.
SO I DO THINK THERE'LL BE AN INCREASE IN THE ALLOTMENT OR IN THE WEIGHTS IN THE ALLOTMENT.
IN SPECIAL EDUCATION, THEY DID A YOU KNOW, A REVIEW OF SPECIAL EDUCATION, KNOWING THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT YOU CAN'T JUST GROUP A GROUP OF KIDS IN THIS ONE AREA, THAT THAT AREA ACTUALLY CONTAINS THREE DIFFERENT GROUPS.
SO AS OUR STUDENT POPULATION IS GROWING, OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION AND IS GROWING AS OUR ATTENDANCE IS GOING DOWN, OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION ACTUALLY GOING UP. BUT I HAVE A FEELING THAT THEY WILL CHANGE THAT.
THERE COULD BE SOME CHANGE IN THE SAFETY AND SECURITY ALLOTMENT.
I THINK THAT THEY WILL ADD SOME MONEY TO THAT, BUT ALL OF IT'S GOING TO BE DESIGNATED JUST ABOUT TO DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT IT WILL JUST MORE OR LESS BE A FLOW THROUGH INSTEAD OF AN INCREASE TO THE REVENUE SIDE.
THE ONLY WAY WE WOULD INCREASE IS IF THEY ACTUALLY DID A INCREASE TO THE BASIC ALLOTMENT.
SO WE GO THROUGH THIS EVERY YEAR AS MR.
[00:45:02]
GLICK CAN ATTEST TO. AND WE THAT'S WHY WE BOTH HAVE WHITE HAIR AND HE HAS NONE.EXACTLY AND MR. MILLER TOO, FOR THAT MATTER. SO BUT WE GO THROUGH IT EVERY YEAR TRYING TO SET A BUDGET, LOOKING AT TEACHER PAY RAISES, WHICH WE REALLY WANT TO DO FOR OUR TEACHERS, BUT WE REALLY DON'T KNOW.
SO YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, WHAT DO WE DO AS A BOARD TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE AND LET TEACHERS KNOW THAT, HEY, WE'RE ON BOARD WITH YOU, BUT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT TOUGH TIMES HERE FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS UNTIL WE FIND OUT SOMETHING.
WELL, I THINK AT THIS POINT, I THINK THAT LEADS US INTO BASICALLY THE SECOND ITEM, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE.. MS. GRIFFIN I STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS JUST.
OKAY, WELL, LET ME LET MR. BEACH FINISH.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE SAYING WHAT WE DO FOR OUR TEACHERS, I THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE WE DO IT, BUT IT'S.
WELL, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I GUESS WHERE I GET CONCERNED OR I, AND I LOOK AT WHEN WE HAVE THE GEOGRAPHIC REPORTS COME IN AND WE LOOK AT THAT AND THEY SHOW THE AREAS OF POCKETS WHERE NEW HOMES ARE BEING BUILT, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE IS THERE GOING TO BE MORE FAMILIES THAN TO SEE APARTMENTS GO IN, WHICH NORMALLY DON'T BRING FAMILIES WITH THEM? IT'S NORMALLY JUST INDIVIDUAL COUPLES AND I'M WONDERING ABOUT, BUT I ALSO I'VE HEARD THAT WE'VE DONE WE DID EXTREMELY WELL IN OUR PRE-K ENROLLMENT, THAT IT LOOKED REALLY PROMISING, AND OF COURSE, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT PART OF IT BECAUSE ONCE WE GET THEM HERE, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THEM AND I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE INVOLVED.
AND I SEE THE EXCITEMENT FROM THAT PRE-K UP THROUGH THE THIRD GRADE AND SO HOPEFULLY WE'RE YOU KNOW, WHERE I'M SEEING THE MOST OF OUR KIDS NOT COMING TO SCHOOL IN THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL. AND THEY GET TO THAT 14, 15, 16 YEAR OLD AND THEY JUST WANT TO WALK AWAY.
SO I WONDER, YOU KNOW, LIKE MR. MILLER SAID, WHAT WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE THAT ADA TO EACH CAMPUS TO SEE WHERE, YOU KNOW OF COURSE, WE HAD THE FUNDS FOR THE TITLE NINE THAT THEY WERE DOING THE INTERVENTION TO GOING OUT, AND THEY WERE KNOCKING ON DOORS GETTING THOSE FOLKS.
AND I JUST WANT TEACHERS TO KNOW THAT WE ARE, AS A BOARD, WILLING TO WE'RE LOOKING AT IT.
WE'RE TURNING EVERY ROCK TRYING TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
MR. MILLER, YOU SAY YOU HAD A COUPLE OF MORE COMMENTS.
IN TERMS OF THE LIFE OF PROGRAMS ONCE THE BOARD APPROVES A PROGRAM AND IT BECOMES PART OF THE BUDGET AND THERE'S A LINE ITEM IN THERE, WHAT FLEXIBILITY DO YOU HAVE? IS THERE A TWILIGHT TO THAT PROGRAM? DOES IT GO ON FOREVER? HOW? JUST TELL ME HOW THE PROGRAM PART OF BUDGETING AND FINANCE FOR THE DISTRICT WORKS.
AND SO THAT CARRIES FROM YEAR TO YEAR TO YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS BUDGETED, THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME PROGRAMS THAT HAD STARTED AND THEN IT HAD CHANGED INTO ANOTHER PROGRAM, AND THEN THAT FUNDING GOES INTO THAT OTHER FUND, YOU KNOW, OTHER PROGRAM.
THERE ARE PROGRAMS THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE INITIATIVE HAS STARTED THEN IT BECOMES ITS OWN PROGRAM, IT BECOMES ITS BUDGET, AND IT MOVES AS IT NEEDS INSIDE THE BUDGET.
YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THERE'S SOME THAT YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE DYSLEXIA, IT WAS CREATED, BUT NOW DYSLEXIA IS ACTUALLY MOVING UNDER SPED. AND THAT IS A STATE THING.
THAT'S WHAT THE STATE TOLD US THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO IT THERE'S STILL FUNDING FOR DYSLEXIA.
WE WILL STILL HAVE THAT TYPE OF FUNDING.
BUT WE'RE LOCKED INTO THAT DYSLEXIA DEAL BECAUSE IT WAS AN INITIATIVE STARTED BY THE BOARD.
AND SO IF WE WERE GOING TO LOOK AT CHANGING SOME OF THAT FUNDING WE NEED TO CHANGE IT WITH THE BOARD TO GO AHEAD AND SAY, OKAY, WE KNOW IT'S BECOME THIS PROGRAM, WE KNOW THERE'S BUDGETED DOLLARS FOR THAT PROGRAM.
AND WE LET THAT LET THE BUDGET AS THE ATTENDANCE IN THAT PROGRAM GROWS OR SHRINKS.
IT NEEDS TO FLOW AS THE BUDGET AS THAT PROGRAM IS GOING ALONG, IT NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO EITHER IF WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT STARTS DECREASING THEN WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DECREASE THOSE DOLLARS BECAUSE I DON'T NEED TO BE LOCKED INTO A HIGH DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THAT PROGRAM.
[00:50:09]
AT A CAMPUS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE YOUR CAMPUS ALLOCATIONS FOR STAFFING BASED ON WHATEVER WE HAVE DECIDED WE WANT STUDENT ENROLLMENT PER TEACHER TO BE.AND SO AS IF A CAMPUS STARTS GROWING, THAT MEANS MORE THAN LIKELY THEY WILL PRAY AT A TEACHER HERE, WHETHER IT'S IN THIRD GRADE OR FOURTH GRADE, BECAUSE THAT GRADE IS GROWING. IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL DO IF A IF IT STARTS DECLINING, WE WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM THAT PROGRAM OR THAT CAMPUS, THAT TEACHER ALLOCATION, IT MAY BE GROWING IN ANOTHER CAMPUS.
AND SO WE WOULD MOVE THAT THAT POSITION OVER THERE, BUT THE BUDGET WOULD BE ABLE TO FLOW WITH WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING IN THE PROGRAMS. SO DO YOU FEEL LIKE THE BUDGET IS FLOWING NOW? I THINK IN SOME PROGRAMS OUR HANDS ARE TIED ON THAT.
NOW. SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS HAVE GROWN ABOVE WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY ALLOCATED.
BUT I DO THINK AS WE GO THROUGH THIS AND IF THERE'S AN INITIATIVE TO CREATE A NEW PROGRAM OR WHATEVER, THAT YES, THERE'S INITIAL DOLLARS THAT NEEDS TO GO INTO THAT PROGRAM, BUT ONCE IT BECOMES A PROGRAM AND IT'S THERE WILL BE MONEY ALLOCATED TO THAT PROGRAM BASED ON HOW THAT PROGRAM IS EITHER GROWING OR DECLINING.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, BOARD, THANK YOU FOR.
THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION AND I AGREE WITH WHAT'S BEEN SHARED SO FAR.
JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY I GO BACK TO I THINK IT'S SLIDE NUMBER 16 WHERE..
YOURS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN MINE.
SO PAGE 12, I GUESS ON YOURS, TELL THEM THE TITLE.
YES. AND SO KIND OF PIGGYBACKING, PIGGYBACKING OFF OF MR. MILLER'S QUESTIONS A LITTLE BIT.
WE NOTICED THAT ENROLLMENT HAS DECLINED.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT FROM 2019 TO WHAT YOU HAVE ESTIMATED AT 2024.
JUST FOR ADA, THAT'S ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 5000 STUDENTS.
RIGHT. AND SO ENROLLMENT DECLINED.
BUT IT WASN'T THAT SAME AMOUNT.
AND SO AS ENROLLMENT DECLINES, IS IT OUR EXPECTATION THAT OUR SUPPORT SYSTEMS STAY THE SAME? AT THE SAME LEVEL, OR SHOULD THEY ALSO DECLINE? AND IF THAT'S TRUE, IF IT SHOULD DECLINE, WHAT HAVE WE DONE TO ADJUST ALONG THE WAY FOR THE DECLINING ENROLLMENT? SO WE HAVE TO GET IN THE MODE, BECAUSE THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.
WE HAVE TO GET IN A MODE OF SAYING WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO MORE WITH LESS, WE'RE DOING LESS WITH LESS.
SO YES, THE SYSTEMS OF SUPPORT ARE GOING TO DECLINE, AND WE JUST GOT TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
AND IT'S JUST IT IS WHAT IT IS.
THAT MEANS IN SOME CASES THEY'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO GO AWAY.
THERE'S NO WAY TO SUSTAIN EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING AND AND TURN AROUND AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN BEFORE AND STRETCH OUR PEOPLE THIN.
OUR PEOPLE ARE ALREADY STRETCHED THIN.
THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN DO WE CAN DO MORE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO LESS WITH LESS.
AND AND THAT'S, I THINK, WHAT MR. MILLER WAS SAYING, RATHER THAN WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR TO MAKE ALL THE BIG CUTS, WE SHOULD LOOK AT SOME LOW HANGING FRUIT.
NOW, TRANSFER IT OVER AND THEN PROCEED.
SO WE'RE REDEFINING A LOT OF ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES IN OUR DISTRICT.
WE'RE DOING A LOT OF REORGANIZATION.
WE DON'T HAVE THE MANPOWER OF T-CLASS.
WHERE'S NO WAY WE CAN SUSTAIN THE STAFFING FORMULAS THAT WE ONCE DID.
SO IN ORDER TO MAKE ENDS MEET, THOUGH, A LOT OF THOSE THINGS HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED.
NOW, FORTUNATELY FOR GARLAND, WE HAD LOWER TEACHER CLASS LOADS THAN ALL OUR NEIGHBORS, SO ALL WE'RE DOING IS AVERAGING IT OUT. BUT IF THIS CONTINUES AND WE KEEP WANTING TO ADD SOME THINGS WITHOUT DECLINING IT, WE WANT TO ADD BIG PAY RAISES.
THEN WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IS REALLY LOOK AT THOSE CLASS SIZES AND REALLY BUMP THEM UP.
THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THE REALITIES OF WHERE THE BULK OF THE MONEY IS.
THE BULK OF THE MONEY ISN'T WHERE PEOPLE THINK IT IS.
IT'S IN STAFFING IT WITH 87% POTENTIALLY BEING IN THE STAFFING.
EVERY TIME WE GET A RAISE THAT GROWS.
[00:55:03]
YEAH. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.I GUESS WHERE I WAS KIND OF THINKING IS, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE'VE SEEN THE BUDGET, IT'S THE EXPENSES HAVE ALWAYS INCREASED, RIGHT? THEY'VE NEVER GONE DOWN.
AND SO AS OUR ENROLLMENT HAS DECREASING, BUT OUR EXPENSES ARE CONTINUING TO GO UP, ARE YOU SAYING THAT THAT PAYROLL NUMBER IS WHAT'S CONTINUED TO DRIVE THAT HIGHER EACH TIME, OR HAVE WE ADJUSTED SUPPORT ALONG THE WAY WHILE THAT SALARY NUMBER IS INCREASED OVER TIME.
SO WE'VE DONE OUR BEST TO TRY TO MINIMIZE THAT IMPACT OVER TIME.
THERE, EVERY YEAR WE'VE DECLINED POSITIONS.
BUT NOW WE'RE AT A POINT, A CRITICAL POINT WHERE NO MATTER WHAT WE DO WE'RE REALLY GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL OUR SYSTEMS IN A VERY HARD MANNER.
WE'RE NOT DOING THIS INDEPENDENTLY.
SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR, OUR, OUR SALARIES AND WE'RE OPERATING RIGHT NOW ON 13%.
OF THE BUDGET. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE OPERATING ON BECAUSE THE 87% IS TIED UP IN SALARIES.
THAT THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHERE WE HONESTLY HAVE TO LOOK.
WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED WITH OUR CUSTODIAL SERVICES THAT WENT UP, YOU KNOW, PAY RAISES.
THERE'S ALL THOSE THOSE NUANCES THAT WE KEEP ADDING.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE INITIATIVES THAT WE DID.
AND I'M NOT I DON'T WANT TO NAME ANY BECAUSE THEN PEOPLE THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TARGETING.
BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN INITIATIVES THAT ARE $1 MILLION A YEAR, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE MR. MILLER WAS GETTING ON.
AND WE'RE CONTINUALLY WE'RE CONTINUALLY GOING THROUGH IT.
MISS STANLEY. SO I GUESS HERE'S MY STRUGGLE. IS IF WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING AT.
PAY RAISES AND OTHER THINGS TONIGHT.
AND YET WE DON'T HAVE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WE DON'T HAVE THE PROGRAM REVIEW, WE DON'T HAVE THIS LOW HANGING FRUIT REVIEW.
AND I HOPE THAT I'LL BE EXCITED SHOULD I EVER, YOU KNOW, LEARN OF IT TOO.
BUT THE POINT IS, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION BASED ON WHAT I'M HEARING TONIGHT.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S JUST ME AND MY COMFORT WITH HOW I WOULD MANAGE MY BUSINESS.
SO. RIGHT. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO PUT IT INTO WHAT WE KNOW.
BUT I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN FRONT OF ME SHOWING ME THE REVIEW OR THE FINDINGS OF THE OTHER THINGS.
WE PRESENTED THE REVIEW FROM GIBSON ON THE AUDIT TO TRIM 130 POSITIONS FROM SECONDARY LEVEL BACK WHEN WE GOT THE AUDIT. WE HAVEN'T TRIMMED ALL 137, BUT WE TRIMMED ABOUT 100 SO FAR AND HR HAS BEEN WORKING TO TRIM MORE.
THEIR CONSOLIDATION PLAN WAS EIGHT INTO FOUR.
WE'RE EVENTUALLY GOING TO DO 12 INTO SIX.
WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THE CONSOLIDATION PLAN.
SO IT KIND OF GOES INTO WHAT ROBERT WAS SAYING ABOUT IF OUR POPULATION IS DECREASING, HOW ARE WE MANAGING OUR POPULATION? CONSOLIDATION IS A BIG PART OF THAT, OKAY.
WE CAN'T CONTROL THE ENROLLMENT WE NEED.
[01:00:01]
AND THOSE ADA FACTORS WILL.THAT MEANS KIDS NEED TO COME IN AND WE'VE AND YOU'VE SEEN OUR PRINCIPALS TAKE A HARD LINE.
YOU CAN GO ONLINE AND PEOPLE ARE WHY ARE YOU ENFORCING THE 90% RULE.
IF YOU'RE NOT HERE 90% OF THE TIME, YOU DON'T GET CREDIT FOR YOUR CLASS EXCUSED OR UNEXCUSED.
OKAY. AND SO PEOPLE FORGET THAT PRIOR TO COVID, THAT WAS THE LAW.
THERE WAS A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE OF IT.
BUT NOW THE LAW IS BACK IN EFFECT, WE NEED YOU IN THE CLASSROOMS. THE THE SECOND THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY HAVE TO HAVE CONTROL OVER IS STAFFING HOW WELL WE STAFF OR HOW EFFICIENT WE STAFF.
OKAY, SO THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS WE CAN CONTROL.
MR. GLICK BROUGHT UP LEGISLATURE.
HE'S CONFIDENT IN IT. WE COULD BE AS CONFIDENT AS WE WANT TO BE.
THE MONEY ISN'T THERE TILL THE MONEY IS THERE.
MR. MILLER BROUGHT UP THE FUTURE TRE.
OKAY. AND SO WE NEED TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THESE THIS IS THE, OUR CURRENT REALITY.
THOSE ARE GOING TO BE OUR TWO, TWO PROTOCOLS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH.
AND WE'VE AND WE'VE BEEN VERY CLEAR THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT.
AND SO EVEN WITH THOSE THINGS WITHIN OUR BUDGET, YOU COULD SEE THAT WHAT WE'RE BASING OUR DECISIONS ON IS THE PROJECTED, WHAT WE CALL WORST CASE SCENARIO DEFICIT THAT WE WOULD HAVE.
SO REMEMBER, AND I THINK THIS IS WHAT MR. GLICK WAS TALKING ABOUT.
HE SEES THE DEFICIT BUDGET AND HE'S ALL LIKE, NO, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THERE.
THAT'S THE WORST CASE SCENARIO.
OKAY. WHAT HAS HELPED US? THE BOND HAS HELPED US TREMENDOUSLY.
THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE A MAJOR SAVE.
SO THOSE TWO THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND WE'RE ALREADY ROLLING THAT OUT THIS COMING YEAR.
SO THIS COMING YEAR, WE'RE WE'RE COMBINING MOST OF OUR CAMPUSES EXCEPT FOR THE HILLSIDE KIMBERLIN.
THOSE WE'RE REMAIN SEPARATE CAMPUSES UNTIL THE NEW CAMPUS IS BUILT.
SO CAN I ASK JUST A FOLLOW UP TO THAT? JUST I NEED CLARIFICATION.
SO I THINK MAYBE IT'S THE WORD PROGRAM.
WHAT I'M THINKING PROGRAM REVIEW AND WHAT YOU'RE THINKING PROGRAM REVIEW.
AND EDUCATION AND YOU'VE SEEN THE WAY THE FUNDING IS IN EDUCATION, IT'S REAL FUNKY, RIGHT? IT'S NOT A CLEAR LIKE WE GET THIS BIG GUARANTEED A LOT SUM OF MONEY.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT MR. DODDS WAS SAYING. IT'S IT'S CONSTANTLY FLEXING, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.
OKAY. HOW MANY REMAINING QUESTIONS DO WE HAVE? HAVE ONE, ONE, TWO, THREE.
ALL RIGHT. GOOD. AND I'M JUST, I'M NOT TRYING TO RUSH US.
WE HAVE TO, BUT FOR ALL OF US, THAT WE WHAT YOU LEARN IN PUBLIC EDUCATION AND BUDGETING, IT IS TO A DEGREE PROJECTION.
AND WE DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED FROM ONE TIME TO FROM ONE POINT TO ANOTHER.
JUST REFRESH THE BOARD AND EVERYONE AGAIN, FROM THE ESTIMATED 23-24 OF 207 MILLION TO 153.
THE EFFECT WHAT DOES THAT PUT US AS FAR AS A BOND, AT RATING? I HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING WHAT THAT WILL DO.
I WILL SAY, ONCE WE GO BACK OUT TO SELL THE REMAINING PART OF OUR BONDS JUST BECAUSE WE WERE ON THE BUBBLE OF ANYWAY, NO MATTER WHAT OUR FINANCIALS LOOK LIKE, BUT JUST OUR OUR DEBT PER STUDENT.
AND AS OUR STUDENT ENROLLMENT KEEPS COMING DOWN, THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE.
THEY HAVE THIS MATRIX THAT THEY GO THROUGH.
AND ONCE IT PASSES THAT IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T REALLY FALL ON FINANCIALS.
SO WE WERE AT THE BUBBLE WHEN WE WENT OUT FOR THIS LAST BOND SALE WHICH WE SOLD 800 MILLION.
AND SO AS WE HAVE ROUGHLY 300 AND A LITTLE OVER 300 MILLION LEFT TO SELL
[01:05:02]
I CAN PRETTY MUCH TELL YOU WE WILL PROBABLY BE OFF THE TRIPLE A RATING JUST BECAUSE OF THAT RATIO BY ITSELF.I HAVE A FEELING WE WILL PROBABLY BE AT A DOUBLE A ONE, WHICH IS THE ONE RIGHT UNDERNEATH THAT.
UNFORTUNATELY. AND I DON'T CONTROL THOSE RATIOS.
THEY SET THOSE RATIOS AND THAT'S THAT'S WHERE IT'S AT.
AND SO IT HAS BEEN A GREAT TIME WITH THAT TRIPLE A RATING, BUT IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT IT.
YES. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT.
I THINK MOST PEOPLE THINK OF ME AS A REALIST, BUT AMONG MAYBE THIS CONVERSATION, I'M AN OPTIMIST AND I DON'T NORMALLY THINK OF MYSELF THAT WAY, BUT.
I THINK WE'RE HEARING NUMBERS THAT CERTAINLY ARE POSSIBLE, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE REAL.
THAT'S A POWERFUL STATEMENT THERE.
YEAH, WELL, IT IS, AND IT'S PROVEN OVER 17 YEARS.
I'M GOING TO JUST SAY THIS OF BEING CORRECT.
SO IF THAT'S BRAGGING, SAY IT IS.
OKAY. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE NUMBERS ALWAYS ARE BETTER OKAY.
DO WE HAVE OTHER WAYS AS WE TO RAISE MONEY? YES. AS MR. MILLER TALKED ABOUT, WE HAVE A TRE.
DID WE LEARN LESSONS FROM OUR LAST ONE? I BELIEVE WE LEARNED A LOT OF LESSONS.
I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE 100,000 PEOPLE VOTING IN THE NEXT TRE.
DO I REALLY BELIEVE THE LEGISLATURE WILL DO SOMETHING? I THINK THEY'LL DO ALL OF THE THINGS THAT MR. DODDS REFERRED TO. I READ EVERY SINGLE BILL THAT CAME FROM THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE.
AND AS YOU SUMMARIZED, THEY WERE ALL THERE.
THERE WERE SEPARATE BILLS ON EVERY ONE OF THOSE.
DO I THINK THEY'LL ALL COME BACK UP? YES I DO, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL ALL PASS.
NO, BUT I THINK A LOT OF THEM WILL PASS BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF SUPPLEMENT THAT THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS, REMEMBER, STATE OF TEXAS IS PRODUCING MORE OIL RIGHT TODAY, THIS VERY DAY THAN MOST COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD, THE STATE OF TEXAS.
SO THE AMOUNT OF DEPLETION, THE AMOUNT OF ALL THOSE REVENUES COMING IN THE STATE, SALES TAX REVENUES, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING HERE, ALL OF THOSE DOLLARS ARE INCREASING. AND THAT WILL BE A PRESSURE ON THE LEGISLATURE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT INCREDIBLE SURPLUS.
SO THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT.
I THINK EVERYONE HAS GOTTEN THEIR QUESTIONS OUT CONCERNING OUR BUDGET PLANNING FOR 24-25.
SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO TO B, DISCUSSION ITEM PAY RAISE RECOMMENDATION FOR GISD EMPLOYEES FOR
[III.B.1. Pay Raise Recommendations for Garland ISD Employees for 2024-2025 School Year]
2024-2025 SCHOOL YEAR.MATT, DO YOU HAVE THAT ONE OR IS IT LOADED DIRECTLY ON THIS ONE? AND YOU HAVE A BLUE FOLDER.
I THINK IT'S THE IT'S IT'S A MAY PROPOSED RAISE WORKSHOP.
DO YOU WANT ME TO CLICK ON OR.
SO AS I WAS HOPING TO GET THROUGH THE BUDGET WORKSHOP PART IN ABOUT 15 MINUTES.
BUT I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, A BIG PART OF WHAT WE'RE AT AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS BUDGET, I'VE BEEN TOLD US A LITTLE BIT TOO LENIENT.
I WON'T SAY WHO SAID THAT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING AS WE'RE WORKING ON.
IT DOESN'T END WHEN WE PASS A BUDGET JUNE 3RD AND JUNE 25TH.
IT WILL BE A HARD YEAR, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS.
BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO MOVE THIS BUDGET DEFICIT DOWN.
WE HAVE TO SHOW OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE DOING OUR PART IN MOVING THIS BUDGET DEFICIT DOWN.
[01:10:08]
CAN MOVE FORWARD AND HOW WE CAN GET THERE TO GET THIS BUDGET DEFICIT DOWN.I'M MR. MILLER. THERE'S NO WAY IN THE WORLD I WANTED TO PRODUCE A BIGGER BUDGET THAN WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY UNDER.
SO LOOKING AT WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT RAISES AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, THIS IS SORT OF OUR HISTORICAL AND, YOU KNOW, THE FOOTNOTE THERE IS WE HAVEN'T HAD AN INCREASE OR REQUIRED INCREASE IN SALARIES SINCE 2019-2020, WHEN HOUSE BILL THREE WAS APPROVED.
THAT WAS A REQUIRED INCREASE IN SALARIES.
IT WAS A 30%, 25% OF THE INCREASE HAD TO GO TO TEACHERS AND I BELIEVE 5% WENT TO OTHER STAFF.
THAT WAS WHAT WAS BACK IN 2019 WHEN THAT CAME OUT OF THE LEGISLATURE.
AND SO YOU SEE OUR HISTORICAL STARTING SALARIES FOR OUR TEACHERS, OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF, INSTRUCTIONAL STAFF AND AUXILIARY STAFF IN WHICH YOU KNOW OUR CURRENT BEGINNING TEACHER PAY IS AT 61,000.
YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A BIG RAISE FROM 22 TO 23 MOVING FROM $11.26 AS A STARTING PAY TO $15 AS A STARTING PAY.
THESE ARE SORT OF THE BUDGET IMPACT THAT HAS HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS, AND SO THESE ARE WHAT WAS APPROVED WHEN RAISES PEOPLE HAVE LEFT. PEOPLE HAVE COME IN DIFFERENT SALARIES.
SO IT'S NOT A FULL TRUE PICTURE OF WHAT THE BUDGET IMPACT HAS BEEN.
BECAUSE AS YOU GET DOWN TO THE ACTUALS, IT CHANGES, IT MOVES, IT MOVES.
SO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENT IMPACT.
NOW WE'LL MAKE ONE NOTE IN 21-22 THERE WAS A ONE TIME PAYMENT OUT OF ESSER.
SO IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE GENERAL FUND IMPACT OVER THERE TO THE FAR RIGHT.
SO AS WE LOOK AT 22-23 AND THE AMOUNT AND THEN 23-24, OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE'VE HAD A BUDGET IMPACT OF ABOUT $69,413,000 TO GENERAL FUND.
AND THAT IS JUST INCREASE IN SALARIES.
THIS IS SORT OF WHAT OUR TEACHER MAKEUP IS.
YOU LOOK AT OUR 1 TO 5, AND THAT'S ABOUT 28% OF OUR TOTAL TEACHERS ARE 1 TO 5 YEARS.
AND AS YOU GO AROUND THE CIRCLE, YOU SEE THE DIFFERENT PERCENT OF WHAT OUR TEACHERS ARE AND WHAT THE MAKEUP AND YEARS OF EXPERIENCE ZERO YEARS IS BEGINNING TEACHERS AT 8%.
WHEN A BUDGET STANDPOINT, THAT'S BETTER, BUT IT THEY'RE LEARNING IN THE CLASSROOM.
AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A DIRECT IMPACT TO OUR EMPLOYEES.
ALL THOSE THAT ARE ACTUALLY ON TRS INSURANCE, WE HAVE A LOT OF EMPLOYEES OR NOT.
BUT YOU SEE, WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 496 EMPLOYEES, 4960 EMPLOYEES THAT ARE ACTUALLY ON TRS COVERAGE.
WE WENT AHEAD AND DID A SURVEY OF CONTRIBUTIONS THAT IS TOWARDS OUR INSURANCE.
YOU SEE, WE ARE SITTING RIGHT CLOSE TO WHERE A LOT OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE SITTING ON THE CONTRIBUTION AT $325 PER MONTH FOR THE CONTRIBUTION FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.
IF YOU GET INTO SOME OF THE PROPERTY WEALTHY, THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM ARE NOT ON TRS INSURANCE, THEY'RE ON THEIR OWN, THEY'RE SELF-FUNDED INSURANCE, AND SO THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS ARE A LOT DIFFERENT.
BUT SETTING ROUND US, THAT'S WHERE WE SET.
YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE CHANGE IS IN TRS ACTIVE CARE PRIMARY.
IT GOES FOR EMPLOYEE ONLY FROM $450 TO 50 TO $501.
THAT IS A $51 PER MONTH CHARGE CHANGE.
[01:15:05]
PRIMARY THIS NEXT YEAR BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY CHEAPER TO BE IN THE PRIMARY THAN IT IS IN THE ACTIVE CARE, HIGH DEDUCTIBLE, THAT'S WHAT HD STANDS FOR.SO IF YOU'RE ON THAT PLAN THAT GOES AWAY, YOU WILL HAVE TO SWITCH TO ONE OF THESE OTHER PLANS.
BUT THIS IS JUST AN IMPACT TO OUR EMPLOYEES, THAT ACTUALLY IS SOMETHING WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER.
AS WE LOOK AT DIFFERENT WAYS TO COMBAT THAT AND JUST WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE SEEING AROUND, WE HAVE THREE. WE CAME UP WITH THREE OPTIONS.
AND THE FIRST ONE BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN THE THE DISTRICT HAD APPROVED RETENTION STIPENDS IN ESSER, WHICH IS GOING AWAY, THOUGH.
IT WOULD BE A 1% INCREASE IN SALARIES AND WITH $1,000 STIPEND, A ONE YEAR, $1,000 STIPEND UNTIL WE SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE LEGISLATURE, SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN OUR FUNDING AND HOW THAT WORKS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL COST DOWN THERE, IT'S IT'LL BE AROUND 12,500,000.
IF WE LOOK AT A 1% 1.5% INCREASE, NO STIPEND THAT WOULD BE $7,647,000 INCREASE TO THE BUDGET.
AND THEN LOOKING AT A 2% INCREASE THE FIRST OPTION THE 1% IT ONLY TIES US TO 1%. AS AS WE INCREASE THE SALARIES EACH TIME YOU INCREASE THE SALARIES, THAT TIES THE BUDGET TO THAT THE ONE THE $1,000 STIPEND.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL GO AWAY AT THE END OF THIS NEXT YEAR AS WE GO INTO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
THAT'S REALLY SORT OF HAVING SINCE WE'VE HAD THOSE RETENTION STIPENDS.
I, YOU KNOW, BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY THE LARGEST IMPACT TO THE BUDGET BY DOING THAT.
AND THAT'S PER FULL TIME EMPLOYEE.
SO WE HAVE A LITTLE OVER 7600 EMPLOYEES.
SO THAT'S WHY THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT IS ACTUALLY HIGHER IS BECAUSE OF THAT $1,000 STIPEND.
AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, THE 1.5% INCREASE IS JUST A STRAIGHT 1.5% INCREASE.
IT WILL INCREASE THE NEW STARTING SALARY AS YOU SEE THERE AND THEN THE 2%.
BUT IF WE GO TO DIFFERENT PERCENTAGES, THAT WILL BE OUR NEW START FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
THAT THAT TIES US BUDGET WISE.
MR. WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? OR IF WE ON THAT FIRST LINE, IF WE JUST DID AWAY WITH THE 1% INCREASE AND JUST GAVE $1,000 STIPEND UNTIL WE COULD GET OUR ARMS AROUND WHAT THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO DO. WOULD THAT CUT THAT FIGURE, LIKE, IN HALF? NO, IT WOULD CUT IT.
PROBABLY SOMEWHERE AROUND 4 MILLION.
I DON'T HAVE THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT.
EXACTLY. BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT $1,000 STIPEND AND ALSO INCLUDES BENEFITS WITH THAT.
SO THAT THAT $1,000 STIPEND IS, IS ABOUT A 7 TO 8, 7.6 MILLION TO $8 MILLION HIT RIGHT THERE.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE AROUND 4 MILLION, A LITTLE OVER 4 MILLION AS A DISTRICT.
IF WE DID, LET'S SAY 250 FOR OUR FALL BREAK, 500 AT CHRISTMAS AND 250 IN THE SPRING TO HELP, BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID ONCE YOU GIVE SOMEONE A PAY INCREASE, YOU'RE STUCK WITH IT.
I MEAN, IT'S IT'S IN THE BUDGET.
I MEAN, EVEN IF WE GAVE THEM A 2% RAISE, THEY THEY MIGHT GET $3 IN THEIR PAYCHECK.
AND WHEN I USED TO HEAR THE PAY RAISES WE WERE GOING TO GET, I'D BE SO EXCITED.
THEN I'D GET MY CHECK AND I'D GO, WHERE DID IT GO?
[01:20:02]
YOU KNOW? SO. YES, SIR.MISS WES JOHNSON, MR. JOHNSON. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT.
AND MR. DODDS, I APPRECIATE THE REPORT.
AS THE SUPERINTENDENT POINTED OUT, 87% OF OUR BUDGET IS TIED UP IN SALARIES.
SO UNTIL YOU TALK ABOUT THE SALARIES, YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET.
SO NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SALARIES.
TO ME, THE BIGGEST THING THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED, AND IT'S WHAT I'VE SEEN TOO, I THINK MR. GLICK HAS COMMENTED THAT HE'S SEEN IT AS WELL, IS THE BIG CONCERN IS THAT ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING TOWARDS TEACHER PAY INCREASES IS GOING TO BE DONE BY THE STATE THROUGH THE FORM OF AN ALLOTMENT, AND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT IS THAT PROVIDES NO RELIEF TO OUR BUDGET WHATSOEVER.
THAT'S MONEY THAT WILL HELP OUR TEACHERS AND MAY HELP FUTURE BUDGETS.
IT'S WHY I'M IN FAVOR OF THE STIPEND APPROACH.
EVEN THOUGH IT IS GOING TO POSSIBLY COST MORE.
IT DOESN'T HAMSTRING US LATER, ESPECIALLY IF WE GET ALLOTMENT VALUES TO FUND TEACHER PAY RAISES IN THE FUTURE, THEN WE'RE ABLE TO DO AS WHAT I THINK SOME WELL-INTENTIONED LEGISLATORS INTEND TO DO AND TURN THAT OVER TO THE STATE TO FUND THE PAY INCREASES AS OPPOSED TO US.
SO I VIEW THE STIPEND AS BRIDGE EFFECTIVELY TO GET US TO THE ALLOTMENT ERA, WHICH HOPEFULLY WILL COME NEXT YEAR, AND WE CAN USE IT NOW TO MR. BEACH'S POINT, I'M PRETTY QUICK WITH THE CALCULATOR.
LAWYERS CAN DIVIDE EVERYTHING BY 33%.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT REAL QUICK.
AND WHEN YOU TAKE THAT AWAY FROM THE TOTAL FIGURE, I'M READING ABOUT 7.4 MILLION FOR FOR THE STIPEND ROUGHLY. YEAH.
SO IF YOU WANTED TO REPLICATE THIS FIRST COLUMN AS ALL STIPEND SO YOU WOULDN'T HAMSTRING.
SO BASICALLY TAKE THE ADMINISTRATOR RECOMMENDATION OF ROUGHLY 12.496 MILLION.
THAT WOULD EFFECTIVELY BE ABOUT A $1,600 STIPEND.
BUT IT WOULD NOT BE A RECURRING EXPENSE.
AND IF THE LEGISLATURE DID APPROVE AN ALLOTMENT BASED INCREASE FOR RAISES AND EFFECTIVELY ASSUMED FUNDING TEACHER PAY RAISES AT THAT POINT, WHICH IS WHAT CERTAINLY THE HOPE IS OUR BUDGET WOULD NOT TAKE A FUTURE HIT, BUT YET WE WOULD PROVIDE HOPEFULLY SOME RELIEF FROM THE TRS INCREASES AND INFLATIONARY PRESSURES THAT WE'RE HEARING.
MR. SELDERS. JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY ONE OF THESE FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT IS AN IDEAL SCENARIO, A SITUATION.
BUT COULD YOU WALK ME THROUGH THE PROS AND CONS OF EACH OPTION THAT YOU'VE LISTED FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE IMPACT TO THE DISTRICT AS WELL AS THE IMPACT TO OUR EMPLOYEES AND HOW IT'S VIEWED? ANY OF THESE OPTIONS ARE GOING TO BE A DECREASE JUST BY WHAT'S BEEN DONE OUT OF ESSER.
SO ANY OPTION WE GO BY IS GOING TO BE A DECREASE.
THAT WAS WAY IT WILL BE VIEWED THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT.
EACH OPTION HAS A TIE RIGHT NOW UNLESS WE GO STRICTLY STIPEND FULL OUT.
THEN EACH HAS AN INCREASE THAT INCREASES JUST LIKE THE HISTORICAL GOING BACK TO THIS SLIDE HERE, IT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON FUTURE BUDGETS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
HOW BIG OF AN IMPACT? BASED ON WHICH PERCENT IT WOULD BE IF WE WENT ONE, ONE AND A HALF OR TWO WOULD TIE US IN FUTURE YEARS.
AS FAR AS WHAT THAT GOES ALONG THE ONE OF THE REASONS WE DID THE LOOK AT A 1% PLUS A STIPEND IS THAT THAT STIPEND WOULD BE A ONE YEAR ONLY IMPACT OF THIS BUDGET.
AND SO, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE GOT A LITTLE OVER 7600 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES.
SO AND THEN YOU HAVE TO ADD THE 12.5% ON BENEFITS.
[01:25:02]
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE IT IT MOVES UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT ON WHAT THAT COST WOULD BE.WHICH MEANS AS WE GROW THIS, THAT MEANS ON THE BACKSIDE OF MORE THAT WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT AT CUTTING TO BRING OUR EXPENSES DOWN.
THE BACKSIDE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 13% NON PAYROLL ITEMS. I KNOW IT'LL BE IN THAT 87% WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, EITHER PROGRAMS OR WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT ALL AREAS.
YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO GET US BACK DOWN TO AROUND 80%.
THAT WAY, YOU'RE ON THE BUBBLE RIGHT THERE OF A BALANCED BUDGET OR NOT RIGHT THERE.
TYPICALLY YOU SEE THAT IN MOST BUDGETS THAT IF YOU'RE AROUND 80, THE TARGET WOULD BE 75.
AND THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN DO THAT RIGHT NOW.
BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT IN ORDER TO GET TO THAT, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING IN EVERY DEPARTMENT, WHAT WE'RE DOING ON EVERY CAMPUS.
IT'S GOING TO BE A FULL, WIDE REVIEW, WORKING THROUGH THIS WHOLE NEXT YEAR ON WHERE WE CAN MAKE CUTS, WHERE WE CAN CHANGE THINGS, AND YES, WE CAN, YOU KNOW WORK THROUGH ATTRITION, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY HEAVY IN WHO'S LEAVING POSITIONS.
DO WE NEED THAT POSITION? EVERY POSITION WILL COME UNDER A REVIEW TO MAKE SURE.
YES, WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS POSITION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT WITHOUT THAT POSITION, THAT PUTS US AT 35 TO 1, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE WILL REVIEW.
AND HR HAS BEEN WORKING THROUGH THAT AS WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS.
AND JUST I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR THE.
MR. SELDERS I DON'T THINK WE TOTALLY ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.
DID WE? DO WE GET TO IT? GOT ENOUGH OF IT? YEAH.
THANK YOU. OKAY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE STIPENDS.
IT WAS PLANNED LIKE WE'VE BEEN DOING THE RETENTION STIPEND AS WE DID WITH ESSER.
YES. ARE THEY OTHER ONES? DO WE HAVE OKAY? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? MR. GLICK DO YOU HAVE? YES, SIR. MORE OF A COMMENT, IF THAT'S OKAY.
FOR SEVERAL WEEKS, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK UP THE NUMBERS IN MY MIND.
I THINK THERE'S A BACKGROUND TO THIS WHOLE STORY AND THE BACKGROUND TO ME IS EVERY TIME WE LOSE A SENIOR TEACHER AND REMEMBER WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR, 15 YEARS, PLUS WE REWARDED THEM WITH THE HIGHEST 4.5%.
EVERY TIME WE LOSE ONE OF THOSE TEACHERS, WHETHER IT'S 12 YEARS, 15 OR ABOVE, WE REPLACE THAT TEACHER WITH POTENTIALLY A NON-CERTIFIED TEACHER, SOMEONE WHO HASN'T GONE TO A SCHOOL OF EDUCATION, SOMEONE WHO MAY HAVE SOME EXPERTISE IN A CERTAIN FIELD BUT IS NEVER TAUGHT IN THE CLASS.
WE'VE HEARD FROM OUR, I'M GOING TO CALL IT THE PERSONNEL DEPARTMENT.
WE'VE HEARD OF THE TREMENDOUS TURNOVER WE HAVE WITH THOSE UNCERTIFIED TEACHERS.
WE'VE HEARD OF THE CONTROVERSY WITH SOME OF THE SCHOOLS THAT TRY TO TEACH THEM TO BECOME TEACHERS.
AND FOR ME, I THINK THE REASON I'M HERE, THE ONLY REASON I'M HERE IS TO MAKE SURE OUR 50,000 PLUS OR MINUS KIDS GET THE BEST POSSIBLE EDUCATION THEY CAN.
THAT'S IT, AND WHEN WE ARE WILLING TO PUT THEM IN A CLASSROOM WITH SOME OF THESE NEW TEACHERS WHO LAST A WEEK, WE'VE BEEN TOLD. WHAT KIND OF EDUCATION ARE WE GIVING THEM? SO THAT'S BEHIND EVERYTHING I HAVE THOUGHT OF AS WE'VE APPROACHED THIS DATE.
[01:30:05]
I THOUGHT WE MIGHT HAVE IT LAST MONTH, BUT IT WAS PUSHED BACK TO MAY.I HAVE COME UP WITH A NUMBER? I THINK REALISTICALLY WE CAN AFFORD.
AND IT'S SOMEWHERE AROUND $17.5 MILLION NOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
MAYBE SOME PEOPLE SAY A LOT HIGHER THAN THE THREE NUMBERS WE SEE IN FRONT OF US.
I THINK WE COULD WORK WHETHER AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH MR. JOHNSON ON THE STIPENDS.
IT'S NOT A ONGOING COST, BUT I THINK THAT'S A REALISTIC NUMBER.
AND I THINK THERE'S A WAY WE CAN DO THIS.
IN THE PAST TWO YEARS WE'VE WORKED IT OUT.
AND I THINK OUR RETENTION RATE IS VERY, VERY GOOD AMONG OUR SENIORS, SENIOR TEACHERS.
AND I THINK THAT HAS TO BE OUR GOAL AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
MR. GLICK, YOU THREW OUT A NUMBER.
HOW DID YOU GET TO THE NUMBER? WHAT'S THE DETAILS? HOW DID YOU GET TO THAT? WELL, BECAUSE IT'S I MEAN, WE'RE SITTING HERE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF UNKNOWNS AND THE STRUGGLE OF WAITING FOR THE STATE AND ALL OF THIS AND WHERE WE WERE FROM 19 AND YEAH, WE KNOW WHAT THE STORY IS, IS THAT WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE IN THE PAST THAT WE'VE PUT MORE IN THE FUND BALANCE THAN WHAT WE ESTIMATED, AND WE HAVE EXTRA.
YEAH AND THEN BECAUSE I THINK WITHOUT THOSE DETAILS HOW CAN WE EVEN CONSIDER IT? BECAUSE THAT PUTS US AT, YOU'RE THROWING A NUMBER OUT, AND THEN OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT HAS THROWN A NUMBER OUT.
SO IF THAT NUMBER IS OUT THERE HOW DID YOU COME TO IT? SO THAT WE CAN SEE OR AGAIN, UNDERSTAND THE DETAILS? SURE. WELL, AGAIN, AS I SAID, IT'S BASED ON A VERY LONG HISTORY OF GOING THROUGH OUR BUDGET NUMBERS.
I WENT THROUGH THE LAST FIVE YEARS OF WHAT I CALL [INAUDIBLE] TO SEE WHAT OUR EXPENSES ARE.
RATIOS ARE I KNOW MR. DODDS TALKED ABOUT 54 MILLION, BUT HE ALSO SAID IT'S POSSIBLE IT COULD BE 45 MILLION.
IT MAY EVEN BE LESS THAN 45 MILLION DECREASE.
SO AS YOU START LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT NUMBERS, AS YOU START ADDING UP WHERE WE ARE, WHERE WE EXPECT WILL BE, WHERE OUR FUND BALANCE IS I EXPECT OUR FUND BALANCE WILL BE HIGHER THAN WE'RE ESTIMATING TODAY.
OKAY. SO YOU THINK YOUR NUMBER IS WHAT? I HAVE IT AROUND 220.
I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'LL HAPPEN OR NOT, BUT I THINK IT'S WE ALL.
YEAH, YEAH, WE ALL HOPE YOU'RE RIGHT.
LUCKILY, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE IT'S NOT LUCK.
IT'S. WE'VE WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE EVERY YEAR THAT IT GOES UP.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S A POSSIBILITY FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION.
BUT AGAIN, AS I SUGGEST, A NUMBER I THINK IT'S.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE EXPLAINED IT WELL ENOUGH HOW I GET THERE, BUT IT'S.
IT'S A BASE NUMBER, AND IT'S A NUMBER THAT I THINK.
EVERY SINGLE SENIOR TEACHER WE RETAIN, EVERY SINGLE SENIOR TEACHER WE RETAIN GIVES ANY EVERY ONE OF OUR KIDS A BETTER CHANCE AT LIFE, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A TEACHER WHO ALL OF US AGREE WITH THAT.
YEAH, WELL, BUT BUT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE GET THERE.
AND IT WASN'T EASY TO GET THERE.
WE HAD A PUSH, BUT WE DID PUSH, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
WE NEED TO PUSH THESE NUMBERS AGAIN.
THESE ARE THE ADMINISTRATION'S NUMBERS.
ARE YOU SAYING 2% PLUS THE THOUSAND DOLLAR STIPEND? THAT BRINGS IT ABOUT TO 17 MILLION.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT? YES, SIR. I'M SORRY.
THE RECOMMENDATION FROM MR. GLICK IS FOR US TO LOOK AT A 2% INCREASE WITH THE $1,000 STIPEND.
[01:35:01]
SO WHAT HE'S SAYING IS IT'S A ONE TIME COST OF 17 MILLION, BUT THE REOCCURRING COST IS 10 MILLION, CORRECT? AND THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING FOR CLARITY.SUMMARY. SO THANK YOU, DOCTOR LOPEZ MR. BEACH I APPRECIATE MR. GLICK'S COMMENTS, BUT I ALSO AM OPTIMISTIC THAT THE MAVERICKS ARE GOING TO WIN THE NBA TITLE UNTIL LAST NIGHT.
AND THERE WAS TIMES WHERE I WENT THREE YEARS, MAYBE EVEN FOUR, THAT I DIDN'T GET ANYTHING.
I MEAN, IT WAS NOTHING. AND THAT DIDN'T, BUT TRS CONTINUED TO GO UP, WHICH IS CONTINUED TO HAPPEN TO ANYBODY IN ANY FIELD RIGHT NOW, THEIR INSURANCE PREMIUMS ARE GOING UP.
SO WITH 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND YOU KNOW, WE WEREN'T ON THE MEDIAN AS WE ARE TODAY AS FAR AS PAY SCALE OR ANYTHING ELSE AS FAR AS LOOKING AT PRICES AND EVERYTHING, I APPRECIATE WHAT MR. WES JOHNSON JUST SAID A FEW MINUTES AGO ABOUT THE STIPEND BECAUSE ONE, THE WAY I LOOK AT THAT IS THAT IT DOESN'T HOLD US IN HARM'S WAY, AS FAR AS THE BUDGET, I MEAN, IT IS AN IMPACT ON THE BUDGET, BUT IT DOESN'T HOLD US FOR THE NEXT YEAR UNTIL WE CAN GET OUR FEET ON THE GROUND TO SEE WHERE WE ARE FINANCIALLY WITH THE STATE AND WHAT THE STATE'S GOING TO DO TO US.
AND THAT'S THE OPTIMISM THAT I KNOW THAT LARRY HAS, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO BET ON THAT.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M A GAMBLING MAN.
BUT ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE WHAT MR. JOHNSON SAID.
AND I THINK THAT IF WE DID THAT AND WE SHOWED THE TEACHERS THAT WE DO CARE.
WE YOU KNOW, I WAS A 20 YEAR TEACHER AND AND IF I WAS IN IT TO RETIRE FROM IT, AND I THINK THAT MOST OF OUR 15 YEAR PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THERE 15 YEARS PLUS ARE STAYING BECAUSE THEY SEE RETIREMENT IN THE FUTURE, THAT'S WHERE THEY WANT TO BE.
AND THAT'S THAT'S OUR OUR GOOD ONES ON TOP.
I MEAN, OUR GREAT ONES AND EVERYBODY.
SO I THINK THEY'RE THERE BECAUSE THE LOVE OF WANTING TO TEACH CHILDREN.
SO THAT'S JUST A COMMENT I'VE GOT TO MAKE.
YEAH. JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON SOME OF THE POINTS THAT MR. GLICK MADE. FIRST I APPRECIATE HIS OPTIMISM.
I THINK THAT THE THE FALLACY THAT MR. GLICK SAYS IS HE'S LIKE, WELL, PUBLIC EDUCATION CAN'T TAKE IT.
I THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE LEGISLATURE THAT, QUITE FRANKLY, WANT TO DESTROY PUBLIC EDUCATION.
AND I THINK THAT THAT IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE GOALS THEY HAVE.
THEY'VE ALMOST STATED IT OVER THE COURSE OF TIME.
THE CONSTANT DEBATE ABOUT VOUCHERS.
THEY'RE WILLING IF THEY CAN'T GET THE VOUCHERS, THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET FUNDING.
THEY'VE KEPT IT FOR FIVE YEARS.
WHY DO YOU THINK THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE WILLING TO TO CHOKE IT OFF NOW OR LET IT GO NOW? WE NEEDED IT TWO YEARS AGO TOO, EXACTLY THE SAME THING.
THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO IT UNTIL THEY GET THEIR WAY AND THEY CAN.
THEY'RE BARGAINING FROM A POSITION OF WEAKNESS.
SO AFTER THE RECENT ELECTIONS AND THE RUNOFF ELECTIONS THAT ARE COMING, I THINK THAT THE GOVERNOR AND THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT VOUCHERS ARE IN LACK OF SAY, THEY HAVE THE WINNING HAND AT THIS POINT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO GO IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION FACED WITH THAT.
SO THAT'S NECESSARILY WHERE WE ARE.
I THINK THAT PEOPLE PUSH THEIR CHIPS ON ONE SIDE OF THE TABLE.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, TO QUOTE MR. BEACH, WHO IS APPARENTLY A GAMBLING MAN, THEY VOTED RED AND IT CAME UP BLACK.
SOME OF THE SCENARIOS THAT WERE BEING THAT WERE BEING FILED LAST YEAR.
I REMEMBER DOCTOR LOPEZ KEEPING UP, THEY WERE PITIFUL.
$100 OR LESS IN ADA, INCREASE IN THE BASIC ALLOTMENT.
WHAT'S THAT GOING TO DO? 100 BUCKS IS 4.5 MILLION FOR US.
WE'RE LOOKING AT 84 MILLION IN THE HOLE.
4.5 MILLION IS NOT GOING TO FIX ANY OF THIS.
SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, I AGAIN, I DON'T SHARE THE OPTIMISM UNTIL THE LEGISLATURE SHOWS THAT THEY ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT PUBLIC SCHOOLS, WHICH FOR FIVE YEARS THEY'VE SHOWN THE EXACT OPPOSITE, THE EXACT OPPOSITE.
[01:40:01]
AND I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO QUOTE YOU THIS THE SUPERINTENDENT WANT A CLARIFICATION.YOU DID SAY THAT YOU'D BE WILLING TO ACCEPT EVEN YOUR PROPOSAL IN ALL STIPEND FORM.
SO WAS THAT WRONG ABOUT THAT? OKAY. SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND, DOCTOR LOPEZ, HE DIDN'T NECESSARILY TIE IT TO A INCREASED PERCENTAGE.
I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW IF YOUR NUMBER IS SOMETHING THAT OUR BUDGET CAN TAKE, BUT WE'LL CHEW ON IT.
I'M ASSUMING THAT MR. DODDS WILL WORK ON IT AND COME BACK WITH US IN JUNE WITH SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
BUT NO, THIS IS COMING IN TWO WEEKS.
FINE. I MEAN, IT'S NOT NOTHING'S REALLY GOING TO CHANGE IN TWO WEEKS, TWO WEEKS, TWO DAYS.
I THINK WE KNOW THE NUMBERS BY NOW, BUT I DO THINK THAT.
WELL, WE'RE STILL WORKING OFF 2019 INCOME.
HOW MUCH MILK IS COST, HOW MUCH ALL THE INSURANCE IS COST, EVERYTHING THAT'S GONE UP.
YOU'VE PROBABLY GOTTEN RAISES SINCE 2019.
THE DISTRICT HASN'T, AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY YOU CAN SIT THERE AND LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS AND YOU'RE LIKE, HOW DID THIS HAPPEN? IT HAPPENED BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GETTING A CORRESPONDING INCREASE THAT ACCOUNTS FOR THIS NOW HISTORIC INFLATION.
WE'D BE IN THE HOLE IF IT WAS JUST TYPICAL INFLATION.
AND THERE'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
WE HAVE A FIDUCIARY OBLIGATION TO DEAL WITH IT.
I MORE THAN ANYBODY, I'VE GOT THREE KIDS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT SOME NOBLE EFFORT FOR ME.
I ACTUALLY HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME HERE.
THAT'S WHY I HAVE THEM IN THE GARLAND ISD PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND WE CAN'T PAY THEM WITH WISHES OR HOPES OR DREAMS. WE HAD TO PAY THEM WITH MONEY.
AND WE'VE GOT THE MONEY RIGHT NOW AND I WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THEM.
BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO DO IT IN A MEANS AND A MANNER THAT CONTEMPLATES WHAT AUSTIN MAY DO AND DOESN'T HAMSTRING US IN CASE THEY DO DROP A BOMB ON US LATER ON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MAYBE NOT EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME PHILOSOPHY.
I THINK THAT'S PLAYED OUT IN OUR COMMENTS TODAY.
I THINK IT IS A EXTREMELY POSITIVE THING.
IF YOU SET OUT A ZERO BASED BUDGET AND YOU ACTUALLY BEAT IT AND YOU PUT MONEY IN THE BANK.
AND FOR ME, WHEN SOMETHING BREAKS, LIKE A CHILLER OR A BUS OR 500 OTHER THINGS THAT COME UP DURING THE YEAR THAT WE NEED TO WRITE A CHECK FOR, THAT WE DIDN'T BUDGET FOR, IT WAS UNFORESEEN.
IT GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY TO BE FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE AND I DON'T SEE THAT USING THE GENERAL FUND. WHICH IS A ONE TIME DOLLAR.
ONCE THE DOLLAR IS GOING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, IT'S GONE FOREVER.
THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN CONVINCE ME THAT THAT IS A FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE THING TO DO.
WHETHER IT'S RAISES OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT IS ONGOING, PERMANENT EXPENSE, YOU CANNOT FUND IT OUT OF A ONE TIME GENERAL FUND. I THINK THAT'S A MISTAKE.
I THINK YOU HAVE TO GET YOUR BUDGET BACK TO A ZERO BASED BUDGET, THAT THE BUDGET ITSELF HAS TO CONTEMPLATE THE RAISES THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO GIVE.
NOW, WE'VE BEEN LIVING OFF OUR GENERAL FUND NOW FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
AND WE'RE GOING TO LIVE ON IT.
WHETHER MR. GLICK IS RIGHT AND IT'S ONLY 30 MILLION, OR..
YEAH, FUND BALANCE DEFICITS ONLY 30 MILLION DEFICIT THIS YEAR.
OR IF WE GET CLOSER TO THE 54, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
EVERY PENNY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS MONEY THAT WE DON'T HAVE IN THE BUDGET.
AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THE PHILOSOPHICAL AIR BALL IS THAT SAYS YOU CAN USE YOUR GENERAL FUND TO FUND OPERATIONS OF YOUR BUSINESS, WHATEVER IT IS. YOU CAN DO IT ONCE OR TWICE.
[01:45:04]
TIMES, AND IT'S ALWAYS PROVEN TO BE A VERY LIMITING MOVE.I THINK THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANY CHOICE.
WE FEEL A GREAT NEED TO HELP OUR TEACHERS.
BUT IN MY OPINION, WE'VE ALREADY PLAYED OUR DOMINOES AND THIS IS THE YEAR THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO HOLD OUR BREATH FOR A YEAR AND HOPE THAT A TRE HELPS US IN 2005 AND THAT THE LEGISLATURE CAN GET OFF DEAD CENTER AND DO SOMETHING TO HELP US.
WHEN THEY DO, I WILL BE GLAD TO TURN AROUND AND BE AS GENEROUS AS I CAN TO WHOEVER IT MAY APPLY TO.
BUT I DON'T THINK IT IS PHILOSOPHICALLY OR FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE TO SPEND MONEY OUT OF YOUR GENERAL FUND FOR PERMANENT YEAR OVER YEAR AFTER YEAR EXPENSES.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT TRUSTEES, WE HAVE HAD AN EXHAUSTING CONVERSATION, I THINK INFORMATIVE.
I THINK EVERYONE HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BASICALLY SPEAK.
I'M HOPING THAT THIS SESSION HAS ALLOWED US TO TRY TO TALK AROUND THE TABLE AND NOT ALL OUTSIDE OF THE TABLE, SO THAT ALL OF US CAN BENEFIT BY WHOEVER WAS THINKING BASICALLY ANYTHING.
I THINK EVERYONE HAS SHARED THEIR COMMENTS THE CONCERNS.
AND AS YOU KNOW, WE WILL NOT BE TAKING ACTION ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT, THIS AFTERNOON, WHATEVER IT IS THIS EVENING.
SO WITH THAT, IF OUR HEARTS ARE CLEARED AND READY TO MOVE FORWARD, I WOULD
[VI. Adjournment ]
ASK FOR AN ADJOURNMENT.AND I WOULD THANK MR. DODDS FOR STANDING THERE FOR TWO HOURS AND YOUR STAFF THAT PREPARES YOU TO STAND BEFORE US, AND I WILL ASK FOR AN ADJOURNMENT. MOTION TO ADJOURN.
MR. MILLER, WHAT TIME SHALL WE BEGIN? THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.